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| faenil | moo o/ | 06:44 |
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| Stskeeps | moo faenil | 06:45 |
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| locusf | moo | 07:20 |
| faenil | moo locusf | 07:27 |
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| faenil | lpotter: ping | 07:47 |
| lpotter | pong | 07:48 |
| faenil | lpotter: where is the default modem driver for ofono set? | 07:50 |
| faenil | it seems to default to RILD now, but I guess it wasn't like this in the past | 07:50 |
| lpotter | not sure | 07:50 |
| faenil | great | 07:51 |
| faenil | :D | 07:51 |
| lpotter | sorry. I'd have to dig | 07:52 |
| faenil | no problem :) it' saturday, I'll ask you again on monday if I can't find time to dig it myself during the weekend ;) | 07:52 |
| locusf | the testing is gonna have to wait until the evening, sorry :) | 07:56 |
| faenil | locusf: haha :) tyt | 07:57 |
| * faenil wonders if Ofono has an IRC channel | 07:58 | |
| faenil | of course it does :D | 07:58 |
| lpotter | good luck getting any answers there | 07:59 |
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| faenil | lpotter: it was worth trying ^^ | 08:01 |
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| faenil | OFONO_DRIVER env looked feasible, but it's not t... | 08:04 |
| faenil | it | 08:04 |
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| Oksana | Good evening! Or good night... Tired. | 11:28 |
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| faenil | Oksana: it's saturday! Energy! :) | 13:10 |
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| locusf | hmm reboots after lipstick startup on n9 | 13:30 |
| locusf | full battery now | 13:30 |
| faenil | logs logs | 13:31 |
| Oksana | faenil: It's late evening of Saturday. Read: first hour of Sunday. When I should be sleeping. Theoretically. Instead, I am dealing with Windows Permissions Hell (yes, it beats your Linux Dependencies Hell). It just 0-byted a file. For no sane reason whatsover. | 13:31 |
| Oksana | Where are the logs? | 13:31 |
| faenil | Oksana: :D seems fun! | 13:31 |
| locusf | ok now it lasted | 13:31 |
| locusf | second reboot | 13:31 |
| Oksana | How is it going? | 13:34 |
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| Oksana | I should clean up my dust filters; their noise could be contributing to my irritability. Recently [within last month] a wax pencil had molten just by being close to them. | 13:36 |
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| faenil | Oksana: lol | 13:41 |
| faenil | locusf: how is it going | 13:42 |
| locusf | faenil: looking at logs now | 13:42 |
| faenil | ok | 13:42 |
| locusf | faenil: just scroll to bottom once I can send this | 13:42 |
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| locusf | 875KB | 13:44 |
| locusf | https://www.dropbox.com/s/svbscdhj34ol8e9/journals-all-boots?dl=0 | 13:45 |
| faenil | something tells me you still haven't deleted user-session and modded user@.servie :P | 13:46 |
| locusf | ok ok I'll do it | 13:46 |
| faenil | :D | 13:46 |
| faenil | you see those xcb errors? that's because the env is missing wayland env vars | 13:47 |
| locusf | yeah | 13:49 |
| faenil | and I think user-session shouldn't start at all | 13:49 |
| locusf | how do I fix those? | 13:49 |
| faenil | there are env files in user@.service | 13:50 |
| faenil | that's why I insist you fix that :p | 13:50 |
| locusf | ok I did | 13:50 |
| locusf | copied over from Jolla now | 13:50 |
| faenil | watch out for copypaste errors | 13:51 |
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| faenil | for example there's $TARGET in jolla's file | 13:51 |
| faenil | which we can't handle, you have to replace it with "default.target" | 13:51 |
| locusf | SESSION_TARGET ? | 13:52 |
| faenil | yeah | 13:52 |
| faenil | if you grep that you'll see it's to handle actdead | 13:52 |
| faenil | I don't think Nemo has actdead handling | 13:52 |
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| locusf | I dunno | 13:53 |
| faenil | (or at least I don't remember) | 13:53 |
| locusf | anything else? | 13:53 |
| faenil | delete user-session, modify user@.service | 13:53 |
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| locusf | done | 13:53 |
| faenil | maybe we should make sure we don't have outdated env vars | 13:53 |
| faenil | compare jolla env files to ours? | 13:54 |
| faenil | those in /var/lib/environment | 13:54 |
| locusf | which ones? | 13:54 |
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| faenil | see which ones make sense to be used on nemo | 13:55 |
| faenil | if it's jolla/android/hybris specific then we probably don't need it (or not on n9 at leasT) | 13:55 |
| locusf | yep couldn't see anything important/already existing in nemo | 13:56 |
| locusf | I should go to sauna now, I'll be back in about a hour | 13:56 |
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| gogeta | hi guys | 13:57 |
| gogeta | lucky you locusf | 13:57 |
| faenil | locusf: have fun | 13:58 |
| faenil | gogeta: hey | 13:58 |
| gogeta | portings today ? | 13:59 |
| faenil | still trying to resurrect nemo on n9 | 14:02 |
| gogeta | you say pure nemo | 14:02 |
| gogeta | ? | 14:02 |
| faenil | y | 14:02 |
| gogeta | just in time i don't use n9 anymore | 14:03 |
| gogeta | now I got 20gb LTE bussiness plan | 14:03 |
| gogeta | with unlimited call sms | 14:03 |
| coderus | 20gbps or 20gbpm? | 14:03 |
| gogeta | no no 20Gb of traffic | 14:03 |
| gogeta | everymonth | 14:03 |
| coderus | ok, 20gbpm then | 14:03 |
| gogeta | speedtest said 49Mbps | 14:04 |
| gogeta | 20gb per month | 14:04 |
| gogeta | i dunno who consume more bandwith ... mitakuulu or messaging framework for imap | 14:04 |
| gogeta | will be nice create a way to create such statistics | 14:05 |
| gogeta | faenil, there are some advance since filippz fist ks ? | 14:05 |
| faenil | yeah a few, but still unstable boot at the moment | 14:07 |
| faenil | I'm really tempted to flash it on my n950 and work on it a bit | 14:07 |
| Oksana | 20gb per minute would have been interesting, yes... Task Manager: per process: CPU usage, Memory usage, Network usage | 14:07 |
| faenil | but I'm resisting the temptation :D | 14:07 |
| Oksana | :) | 14:07 |
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| gogeta | where are you testing ? | 14:09 |
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| faenil | m? | 14:11 |
| faenil | I'm not testing, I'm just trying to help from the outside locusf and filippz who are those actually flashing it :) | 14:11 |
| gogeta | may I compile it ? | 14:12 |
| faenil | you have to ask for the latest ks file | 14:13 |
| gogeta | at the sauna :-D | 14:14 |
| faenil | ;( | 14:15 |
| faenil | :) | 14:15 |
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| coderus | gogeta: mitakuuluu have data counters | 14:35 |
| gogeta | I know | 14:35 |
| coderus | and btw, i can build your ks files on server and it will be automatically hoted to download :) | 14:35 |
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| coderus | mean i can build your images using your ks files :) | 14:36 |
| coderus | s/hoted/hosted | 14:36 |
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| faenil | coderus: that would be convenient for the release process ;) though we already have tbr helping with the hosting | 14:37 |
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| coderus | sure, just ask if you need it | 14:38 |
| faenil | coderus: thanks! | 14:38 |
| tbr | faenil: wasn't there an IMG for nemo/mer by now? | 14:38 |
| faenil | coderus: what about you contributing to nemo instead ;) | 14:39 |
| coderus | i can just run mic on server and forget it until it will be done, and file will be automatically available to download :D | 14:39 |
| faenil | tbr: what do you mean? | 14:39 |
| tbr | ImageMeGive | 14:39 |
| tbr | a build service, in goes KS out comes image | 14:39 |
| faenil | oh the img service! | 14:39 |
| faenil | don't know! I thought you only hosted tarballs | 14:39 |
| Stskeeps | (garbage in, garbage out!) | 14:39 |
| tbr | faenil: yeah, but when I started doing that as images.formeego.org, the idea already was to replace that with proper builds done by IMG | 14:40 |
| tbr | just that IMG was nowhere near usable back then | 14:40 |
| tbr | it's been working reasonably well for Jolla the last year, from what I understand | 14:41 |
| tbr | also it looks like there is some instance already: https://img.merproject.org/img/ | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | platform sdk is made with it, afaik | 14:41 |
| tbr | I guess lbt or Stskeeps should know | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | as lbt is o crap home connection | 14:41 |
| tbr | *nod* | 14:41 |
| lbt | ? | 14:42 |
| tbr | lbt: IMG for nemo or SFA images, is it possible? | 14:42 |
| lbt | nemo yes | 14:42 |
| tbr | faenil: there is your answer. :) | 14:43 |
| faenil | :) | 14:43 |
| lbt | thinking about SFA - don't see why not | 14:43 |
| faenil | so, how does it work? | 14:43 |
| faenil | (once we have a decent ks) | 14:43 |
| tbr | faenil: I'm still happy to host nemo images, but preferably done using IMG. at which point that's a bit redundant. ;) | 14:43 |
| lbt | less sure on the license restrictions for SFA | 14:43 |
| faenil | :) | 14:43 |
| * lbt is doing jitter calcs on his capacitative touch system atm ... head is elsewhere :) | 14:44 | |
| coderus | faenil: i need real work, for now i cant spent more time for stuff without detting income :D | 14:45 |
| faenil | coderus: understandable ;) | 14:45 |
| faenil | coderus: have you finished uni? | 14:48 |
| r0kk3rz | coderus: i think you have a location issue more than anything else | 14:52 |
| r0kk3rz | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Audio/MainVolume << this interface doesnt exist on sailfish? do i need to talk directly to pulseaudio to manipulate the main volume? | 14:56 |
| locusf | oh yeah img | 15:00 |
| gogeta | locusf, back from sauna ? | 15:00 |
| locusf | gogeta: yeah | 15:00 |
| gogeta | can you send me ks for n[9,950] | 15:00 |
| locusf | sure, one moment though | 15:01 |
| gogeta | tnx a lot | 15:09 |
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| faenil | r0kk3rz: see if this helps https://github.com/nemomobile/pulseaudio-modules-nemo/blob/master/src/mainvolume/tests/mainvolume-dbus-test.py | 15:15 |
| locusf | gogeta: http://pastie.org/9659236 | 15:15 |
| faenil | locusf: can you remove jal repo please | 15:18 |
| faenil | it shouldn't be needed anymore | 15:18 |
| locusf | faenil: ok | 15:18 |
| faenil | let's get this in a better shape :) | 15:18 |
| gogeta | why autologinuser meego | 15:19 |
| gogeta | ? | 15:19 |
| gogeta | http://pastie.org/9659236#2,10,13,25,63 | 15:19 |
| r0kk3rz | faenil: im not sure what im looking at, this is a test script for mainvolume? as the com.nokia.mainvolume1 doesnt appear to be on my jolla either | 15:21 |
| faenil | r0kk3rz: yeah it's supposed to be the test for that module | 15:22 |
| faenil | so I guess it should pass :/ | 15:23 |
| faenil | gogeta: ?? | 15:23 |
| faenil | ah, don't know | 15:23 |
| r0kk3rz | faenil: i havent tried running it, but afaik its going to fail to find the interface, because its not being advertised, or missing | 15:23 |
| r0kk3rz | i could be wrong though | 15:24 |
| faenil | r0kk3rz: check if you have that package installed | 15:25 |
| locusf | hmm mce still prevents booting up | 15:25 |
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| faenil | ? | 15:26 |
| locusf | n9 | 15:26 |
| faenil | yes, but no log, no party :P | 15:26 |
| faenil | yesterday I read you were missing mce.service, don't know if that's still the case | 15:27 |
| locusf | I tried to copy it back but nothing happened after booting | 15:28 |
| locusf | and journalctl doesn't report anything when mce is enabled | 15:28 |
| faenil | nothing happened as in? | 15:28 |
| r0kk3rz | faenil: pulseaudio-modules-nemo-mainvolume is there, maybe im looking in the wrong place | 15:29 |
| faenil | r0kk3rz: try having a look here https://github.com/nemomobile/pulseaudio-modules-nemo/blob/master/src/mainvolume/module-meego-mainvolume.c#L805 | 15:30 |
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| faenil | lol | 15:31 |
| r0kk3rz | faenil: what service presents that interface? org.pulseaudio? | 15:31 |
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| gogeta | faenil, i've found stellaris iso | 15:33 |
| gogeta | did you remember | 15:34 |
| gogeta | ? | 15:34 |
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| faenil | r0kk3rz: com.Meego.MainVolume2 ? | 15:34 |
| faenil | ah service, sorry | 15:34 |
| faenil | gogeta: nope | 15:34 |
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| faenil | r0kk3rz: org.pulseaudio.Core1? | 15:36 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah service | 15:36 |
| faenil | isn't that it | 15:37 |
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| r0kk3rz | not seeing that one either | 15:39 |
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| locusf | argh, was gonna install cutefox-qt5 but it required embedlite-components which aren't available due to xulrunner not working | 16:53 |
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| filippz | locusf, faenil: I've finally made a ks file that boots to lipstick and can be sshed into :) | 17:55 |
| faenil | filippz: yay :) | 17:55 |
| faenil | what else was needed? | 17:56 |
| filippz | trouble is that while building nemo-theme-glacier calls gconftool-2 but should use dconf (which can't be used in ks file afaik) | 17:56 |
| filippz | we don't have any icons in lipstick (probably due to that) | 17:56 |
| faenil | sure, no problem | 17:56 |
| faenil | tell me more about what was missing | 17:56 |
| filippz | also I get mirrored settings QML - isn't QT_COMPOSITOR_NEGATE_INVERTED_Y supposed to fix that? | 17:57 |
| locusf | filippz: good job :) | 17:57 |
| locusf | filippz: nope, that requires a custom shader that glacier-home has | 17:58 |
| faenil | filippz: it worked, months ago, but at one point I think that wasn't needed anymore | 17:58 |
| faenil | and jolla did it with the shader | 17:58 |
| faenil | which is the way locusf followed I guess | 17:58 |
| locusf | yup | 17:58 |
| faenil | filippz: I'm curious, come on :P | 17:59 |
| filippz | hm, I'm using colorful, but I've put glacier in package list?! | 18:00 |
| locusf | odd | 18:00 |
| filippz | I'll rebuild and reflash - who knows... | 18:01 |
| filippz | also i get Failed to get D-Bus connection: Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11 with command: systemctl --user restart lipstick | 18:02 |
| filippz | btw here is my ks: http://pastebin.com/GFQq6LZ4 | 18:03 |
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| filippz | I've adapted this script to fix dbus issues: https://gist.github.com/kikairoya/5850256 | 18:05 |
| filippz | maybe another approach would work better | 18:05 |
| faenil | mmm | 18:05 |
| faenil | filippz: have you deleted jalmvw repo already, btw? | 18:06 |
| faenil | it shouldn't be needed anymore, and if it's still needed please let me know | 18:06 |
| filippz | yes | 18:06 |
| faenil | ok, so it's not needed anymore? | 18:06 |
| filippz | no, apparently not | 18:07 |
| faenil | ok, cool | 18:07 |
| filippz | yes - good job with that one faenil | 18:07 |
| faenil | yeah I sent a pr to that package so that it doesn't require videoep anymore, since it was x11 specific anyway | 18:07 |
| faenil | filippz: oh np | 18:07 |
| locusf | filippz: is your lipstick performance dreadful? | 18:10 |
| filippz | not really - it get's stuck after a couple of minutes - but work's OK | 18:10 |
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| locusf | hmm ok | 18:10 |
| faenil | filippz: btw why did you need that script? wasn't new dbus enough? which issues did you have | 18:11 |
| filippz | problem is that there are no icons duee to dconf/gcong theme package | 18:11 |
| filippz | faenil: I'm not ussing user-session@.service anymore - without it i couldn't get user session to start | 18:12 |
| faenil | locusf: deleted user-session as well, but lipstick starts? | 18:12 |
| locusf | faenil: yeah | 18:12 |
| filippz | now I've noticed that jolla-session-qt5 has pre-user-session.wants to dbus - I'm not sure that we have | 18:12 |
| faenil | filippz: did you get the env vars from jolla's user@.service? | 18:13 |
| locusf | hmm my n9 has died | 18:13 |
| filippz | just Environment=XDG_RUNTIME_DIR | 18:13 |
| faenil | filippz: there are many more... | 18:13 |
| locusf | or not | 18:13 |
| faenil | (files with env vars) | 18:13 |
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| faenil | also, any reason why you skipped the other env vars from jolla's user@.service? (just trying to understand :D ) | 18:14 |
| faenil | :) | 18:15 |
| filippz | jolla has binary called autologin instead of start-user-session script, togehter with /etc/pam.d file for it - who knows why they need it, toghther with all the other stuff | 18:15 |
| filippz | I'm not inclined to c/p all the stuf without really knowing what for | 18:15 |
| faenil | filippz: well, there are graphics env vars | 18:16 |
| faenil | maliit env vars | 18:16 |
| faenil | there is everything we need for nemo to work, in there | 18:16 |
| faenil | :P | 18:16 |
| faenil | maybe some outdated ones, sure | 18:16 |
| filippz | I'm trying to find minimum changes needed to start user session - everything other can be added if we find a reason for it | 18:16 |
| faenil | filippz: you think I put those env files in nemo-sessions package just to kid? :D :D | 18:16 |
| faenil | ok, I just wouldn't want to reinvent the wheel | 18:17 |
| coderus | faenil: maype filippz want to create ellipse wheel instead of squicle? | 18:18 |
| faenil | coderus: could be, could be :) | 18:19 |
| filippz | I'm not saying they don't have a purpose, I'm just trying to figure out why jolla has that binary and all that stuff inside | 18:19 |
| faenil | I just remember the times I wasted on this stuff in summer 2013 | 18:19 |
| faenil | and I would want us to concentrate on going forward, not repeating previous steps :) | 18:19 |
| faenil | filippz: sure, that's another matter | 18:19 |
| filippz | I'll try with glacier lipstick now, and after that I'm going go take a crack at mce | 18:20 |
| filippz | I just hate when ubuntu creates /media/Alt_OS_, /media/Alt_OS__ ... etc - I extracted the image to the wrong place - again | 18:23 |
| faenil | hehe | 18:23 |
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| filippz | so we dont' have dbus as "wants" for pre-user-session.target - I'll add it and drop the lines added to start-user-session | 18:26 |
| faenil | :) | 18:27 |
| locusf | my mic2 is taking ages right now | 18:28 |
| faenil | what's start-user-session? | 18:28 |
| locusf | btw we have the second usable tablet for nemo now | 18:28 |
| faenil | cool | 18:30 |
| hedayat | Sorry for interrupting, anybody has experience with busybox's 'pivot_root'? I'm stuck with 'pivot_root: Device or resource busy' and cannot figure out what the problem is. | 18:31 |
| faenil | nope | 18:31 |
| filippz | faenil: /usr/lib/startup/start-user-session is a script that activates user@.service, that in turn calls systemd --user | 18:32 |
| faenil | ok | 18:32 |
| faenil | filippz: ps don't remember to send a PR to https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-mobile-session/blob/master/rpm/nemo-mobile-session.spec | 18:32 |
| faenil | adding the symlink for dbus.service in pre-user-session.wants | 18:33 |
| filippz | faenil: I didn't get user session to start with that change :( | 18:33 |
| hedayat | :( I'd like to boot Nemo from inside a directory, and pivot_root might help me. Actually, I'm trying to find a way for loop mounting nemo/sailfish. | 18:33 |
| faenil | filippz: yeah but it's still adviced to have it, if jolla added it :) | 18:33 |
| filippz | I'll check what happened in log - I'm trying to get all the bit's and pieces first | 18:34 |
| faenil | filippz: have you tried adding the env vars I was talking about ? just as an attempt...otherwise I don't get why locusf gets it to start | 18:34 |
| locusf | actually it stopped working after I added the env vars | 18:35 |
| locusf | sorry to report that so late, I just noticed it myself | 18:35 |
| filippz | I'll retest with them, I must first see to see what's the dbus trouble is now | 18:35 |
| faenil | locusf: LOL | 18:35 |
| filippz | faenil: It seems that c/p stuff doesn't always work :) | 18:36 |
| faenil | filippz: it's not cp, it's env vars which I put there myself, they're just not being considered at the moment | 18:36 |
| faenil | because of the user@service change | 18:36 |
| faenil | I wouldn't force you to do a random move :D | 18:36 |
| faenil | but anyway, I'll just keep quiet and let you guys enjoy the work | 18:37 |
| faenil | I can't ask for logs every 2 mins :D | 18:37 |
| faenil | the problem with ignoring those env vars is that | 18:44 |
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| faenil | once you'll have a problem with...say, libaccounts, nobody will be able to help | 18:44 |
| locusf | I got lipstick running now | 18:44 |
| faenil | because tracing back to an env var not being set is not easy, especially if you're so used to having everything set up as sailors are | 18:44 |
| locusf | but everything is without text | 18:44 |
| faenil | locusf: cool, change? | 18:44 |
| faenil | oops | 18:44 |
| filippz | adding systemd.log_level=debug boot parameter causes my N9 not to boot anymore :( | 18:47 |
| filippz | ubiboot is now broken - Boot menu script not found?! | 18:48 |
| locusf | faenil: its built with the latest ks | 18:49 |
| locusf | gui is frozen though | 18:50 |
| locusf | it did react previously | 18:50 |
| faenil | where is the ks for sailfish n9 btw? | 18:52 |
| filippz | I have to download Harmattan firmware to fix the ubiboot - that means I'm done for tonight... | 18:53 |
| faenil | wow | 18:55 |
| faenil | I'm out as well, cya o/ | 18:55 |
| locusf | cya | 18:55 |
| filippz | faenil: sailfish ks: http://merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos/%23sailfishos.2014-10-10.log.html#t2014-10-10T15:20:35 | 18:56 |
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| hedayat | Should I boot latest sailfish using the same command line as nemo (vram=6m omapfb.vram=0:6M)? | 21:12 |
| phdeswer | hedayat: most likely yes | 21:14 |
| hedayat | phdeswer: thanks! | 21:14 |
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| gogeta | hi phdeswer | 21:34 |
| phdeswer | hi gogeta | 21:45 |
| gogeta | why proxy settings are just in dbus | 21:46 |
| gogeta | and not in env ? | 21:46 |
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| phdeswer | gogeta: connman insanity I guess | 21:58 |
| gogeta | i can't use my phone at office | 21:59 |
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| hedayat | Finally, I found how can I boot nemo/sailfish/etc. without re-partitioning! :D | 22:33 |
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