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| filippz | locusf, faenil: o/ | 06:19 |
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| filippz | my investigation into trouble while booting N9 has lead me to conclusion that nemo-mobile-session package needs some changes | 06:20 |
| filippz | basically we have outdated /lib/systemd/system/user@.service (compared to the one installed on sailfishos) | 06:20 |
| filippz | we also have user-session@.service installed by nemo-mobile-session package that we don't need and is causing problems | 06:20 |
| filippz | I'm not sure from where user@.service comes from, but I'm looking ate systemd package which is not building in obs because of missing gzip | 06:20 |
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| filippz | Who knows enough about systemd to take look at these? | 06:21 |
| kjokinie | filippz: try rpm -qf /lib/systemd/system/user@.service | 06:26 |
| filippz | kjokinie: I'm unable to ssh into nemo, and would have to reinstall sailfish to check - but I'm quite sure that user-session@.service must go away | 06:28 |
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| kjokinie | filippz: you might be right, I got told over the desk that that user@ thing is from the new systemd | 06:29 |
| filippz | kjokinie: ty and OverTheDeskGuru :) | 06:30 |
| filippz | I'll wait for the systemd to start building as it should and see how user@.session looks then | 06:31 |
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| filippz | maybe omitting user-session@.service from nemo-mobile-session will be enough | 06:32 |
| kjokinie | filippz: if you are trying to run systemd on N9, you will get into trouble with systemd. it doesn't work that well with 2.6.* kernels | 06:33 |
| kjokinie | there is a 3.5.y based kernel as well for N9, but that is limited in functionality :( | 06:35 |
| filippz | kjokinie: I'm running 3.5.3, and since we have bootable Sailfish on N9 with that kernel, nemo should also work | 06:35 |
| kjokinie | filippz: nice :) | 06:35 |
| locusf | hey filippz | 06:40 |
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| filippz | morning locusf | 07:06 |
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| faenil | kjokinie: filippz is one of the guys who worked on 3.5.3 to make it functional enough ;) | 07:43 |
| faenil | good morning people :) | 07:43 |
| faenil | filippz: about packages not building, basically everything is broken at the moment, because of that gzip conflict | 07:43 |
| faenil | Stskeepz: would you please? :D | 07:43 |
| SK_work | morning faenil | 07:44 |
| filippz | faenil: morning o/ | 07:44 |
| faenil | https://build.merproject.org/project/monitor/mer-core:i486:devel?blocked=0&building=0&dispatching=0&finished=0&scheduled=0&signing=0&succeeded=0 nothing builds since I added the busybox required by usb-moded :D | 07:46 |
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| phaeron | faenil: you can fix that using the prjconf | 07:48 |
| phaeron | faenil: just add Prefer: gzip | 07:52 |
| faenil | phaeron: boss said it's his job, I wouldn't want to steal job from other people :D | 07:55 |
| SK_work | faenil: :D | 07:56 |
| SK_work | do it | 07:56 |
| faenil | https://build.merproject.org/project/prjconf/mer-core:devel | 07:58 |
| faenil | I guess I have to force rebuild? nothing changed | 07:58 |
| SK_work | faenil: this project has no build target ? | 07:59 |
| faenil | ok, I thought it would transfer it to all archs | 08:00 |
| faenil | so I have to do it manually arch by arch | 08:00 |
| faenil | and I can't do it, no permissions | 08:01 |
| faenil | so...game over :D | 08:01 |
| SK_work | faenil: :D | 08:01 |
| phaeron | faenil: each arch needs a prjconf | 08:04 |
| phaeron | on merproject.org | 08:07 |
| SK_work | phaeron: can you give faenil rights ? | 08:08 |
| SK_work | he can't do this because of rights | 08:09 |
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| phaeron | faenil: I've added two prjconf lines for i486 and armv7hl | 08:13 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | good morning guys | 08:14 |
| phaeron | faenil: not sure how merproject.org handles prjconf. we do it with git | 08:15 |
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| faenil | still all unresolvable mm | 08:18 |
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| faenil | ah, all good now :) | 08:21 |
| faenil | filippz: it should work now! | 08:22 |
| faenil | thanks phaeron :) | 08:22 |
| dr_gogeta86 | faenil, italian dns fail at usual | 08:22 |
| faenil | dr_gogeta86: ? | 08:22 |
| dr_gogeta86 | [root@srvprd-l009p okconfig]# host merproject.org 212.216.112.112 | 08:22 |
| dr_gogeta86 | ;; connection timed out; trying next origin | 08:22 |
| dr_gogeta86 | ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached | 08:22 |
| faenil | mm | 08:23 |
| dr_gogeta86 | did you know in italy port 53 are always wiretapped | 08:23 |
| dr_gogeta86 | and i don't know for what reasons just google ones aren't | 08:23 |
| faenil | :/ | 08:27 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | shame on myself | 08:28 |
| filippz | faenil: there is no user@.service in systemd rpm - it dint' rebuild :( | 08:29 |
| filippz | sorry- I'm stupid :( | 08:30 |
| filippz | package is systemd-config-mer - I'll check for user@.service there | 08:30 |
| faenil | I was about to say that :) | 08:30 |
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| filippz | well, that user@.service looks like the default one from systemd, while jolla's one is customized | 08:33 |
| faenil | filippz: but you have jolla's user@, don't you | 08:33 |
| filippz | faenil: yes - but I don't know from what package it comes from | 08:34 |
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| filippz | faneli: do you have Jolla: can you check rpm -qf /lib/systemd/system/user@.service | 08:34 |
| faenil | of course, I thought you could do that :) | 08:34 |
| faenil | but it's probably a closed package | 08:35 |
| faenil | yeah, jolla-sessions-qt5 | 08:36 |
| filippz | OK, I'll try the systemd's one and see if something from Jolla's needs to be added to it | 08:37 |
| faenil | filippz: why don't you just copy the one from jolla and adapt it | 08:38 |
| faenil | do you need the content of the file? | 08:38 |
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| filippz | I have it from SailfishOS build for N9 - I'm just trying to avoid modifying it if it's not needed | 08:39 |
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| coderus | filippz: sorry i didnt check ed for a last days - is there any progress on EGL stuff? or did you found reason why sailfish ui on N9 is so laggy? | 09:03 |
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| faenil | coderus: laggier than in pre qt5.2? laggier than first demos on n950? or? | 09:08 |
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| coderus | faenil: yeah, its very laggy | 09:14 |
| coderus | faenil: you didnt tried it? o_O | 09:14 |
| coderus | yourself? | 09:15 |
| faenil | coderus: nope, haven't touched n950 since a year | 09:15 |
| faenil | I tried it on early demos | 09:15 |
| faenil | but it's laggy on Jolla device, so I don't see how it can be smooth on n9 :D | 09:15 |
| faenil | I just wanted to know if it's got worse lately, or you were referring to a lag that has always been there ;) | 09:16 |
| coderus | its buggy on jolla, not laggy | 09:16 |
| faenil | laggy as well, unfortunately :/ | 09:17 |
| faenil | but then, I'm a bit picky about smoothness | 09:17 |
| SK_work | faenil: it is not laggy | 09:17 |
| SK_work | it has hickups | 09:17 |
| SK_work | that's worse | 09:17 |
| SK_work | ie: 60FPS | 09:17 |
| coderus | early n9 demos have no gfx acceleration, but last fillipz kernel should have | 09:17 |
| SK_work | and sudden: 58 FPS | 09:17 |
| SK_work | it is horrible | 09:17 |
| faenil | wait wait, let's not start the smoothness discussion :D | 09:17 |
| faenil | coderus: no gfx acce? hasn't it always used wsegl? the wayland driver? | 09:18 |
| SK_work | faenil: read sletta's blog post about smoothness ? a nice one :) | 09:19 |
| faenil | SK_work: don't remember atm, but probably :) | 09:19 |
| coderus | in last fillipz kernel it should use egl, but its not optimized or missing something else | 09:19 |
| coderus | and yes its more laggy than before | 09:20 |
| faenil | ok | 09:20 |
| coderus | if you have some n9 or n950 you can test it for fun :) | 09:20 |
| faenil | no I don't want to get into that as well :D but I will after I'm done with uni ;) | 09:21 |
| coderus | hope it will be fixed this time :) | 09:21 |
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| faenil | coderus: fixed? | 09:22 |
| Morpog_Jolla | faenil, ui on n9 with 1.0.2.5 was slow, but now with 1.0.8.21 it feels like symbian v5 on an 5800 express music | 09:24 |
| faenil | hehe | 09:25 |
| filippz | coderus: I haven't looked at the egl. I'm looking to get nemo running on Qt5.2, and then see what's to blame for poor preformance | 09:25 |
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| Morpog_Jolla | nice filippz | 09:25 |
| filippz | When testing 3.5.3 on older nemo performance was a bit slower than with 2.6 kernel, but not much IMHO | 09:26 |
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| faenil | mmm :( | 09:28 |
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| filippz | Also (AFAIK) ti sgx drivers used are Nokia proprietary - not original TI - maybe they have some tweaks missing in newer kernel | 09:28 |
| faenil | filippz: this is what we're using https://github.com/nemomobile/ti-omap3-sgx-wayland-wsegl | 09:29 |
| faenil | I once tried adding vsync to it, but failed | 09:30 |
| filippz | faenil: yes, but I was looking for newer version the other day and stumbled on such explanation | 09:30 |
| faenil | there's no new version, that's been made for the n900 by Stskeepz iirc | 09:31 |
| faenil | and then adapted to n950-n9 | 09:31 |
| filippz | I think w00t is to "blame" for wayland extensions - but I'm thinking of ti-omap3-sgx binary with version 1.4.268 | 09:34 |
| faenil | this may have juicy info though https://github.com/nemomobile/ti-omap3-sgx-wayland-wsegl/blob/master/LICENSE | 09:34 |
| faenil | filippz: w00t did the adaptation to n9, based on previous work for n900, iirc | 09:34 |
| faenil | filippz: ok | 09:34 |
| filippz | faenil: to be honest - I have no clue what is what in that regard, and since it's working (a bit slow maybe) I would leave that alone and concentrate on building a working nemo image | 09:37 |
| faenil | no I don't think you can use the official ti driver...but who knows, maybe some frankensteins | 09:37 |
| faenil | filippz: yeah... | 09:37 |
| Morpog_Jolla | w00t shiuld have enough time to fix it now :) | 09:37 |
| faenil | Morpog_Jolla: why don't you tweet that :P | 09:38 |
| Morpog_Jolla | haha | 09:38 |
| filippz | let's see how it behaves under Qt5.2 qtwayland and 3.5.3 kernel, and then (if we need help) we should let the right people know :) | 09:39 |
| locusf | w00t actually asked me about the new n9 image last weekend, he said he could probably improve the performance | 09:39 |
| faenil | w000t? :: | 09:39 |
| faenil | :D | 09:39 |
| faenil | filippz: yeah | 09:39 |
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| filippz | ^and the MAN is here :) | 09:42 |
| faenil | w00t: I was about to tweet "can't you hear your ears whistling?" | 09:43 |
| w00t | hehe | 09:43 |
| locusf | it was me ;) | 09:43 |
| faenil | oh :p | 09:43 |
| w00t | locusf: bah, now the secret about our PM love affair is out :P | 09:44 |
| w00t | how can i help | 09:44 |
| faenil | w00t: current plans: get nemo to boot on new mer-core (5.2 etc), and see why performance on n9 got worse | 09:45 |
| faenil | filippz is working on the first | 09:46 |
| faenil | but other people reported that performance on sailfhs 1.0.8 is worse than 1.0.2 | 09:46 |
| w00t | hard to say... | 09:48 |
| w00t | checked vitals like memory stats and such? | 09:48 |
| faenil | and the issue with plan 1) seems to be that systemd changed and it now requires user@ instead of user-session@, and jolla is using a modified user@, and we have to adapt it nemo | 09:48 |
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| w00t | yes, it was updated a while ago. but changes to adapt should be pretty minimal afair | 09:49 |
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| locusf | btw essentially the same .ks builds a good rootfs for n7000 | 09:52 |
| dr_gogeta86 | hi w00t | 09:53 |
| w00t | o/ | 09:53 |
| locusf | so there shouldn't be anything wrong with user@session stuff | 09:53 |
| faenil | you're on hadk setup though, not sure about the differences | 09:54 |
| locusf | basically the diff is the hardware adaptation | 09:55 |
| faenil | that's for sure :) | 09:55 |
| locusf | but I don't kno for anything elsew | 09:56 |
| filippz | locusf: do you have systemd-config-mer in ks file for n7000 ? | 09:56 |
| dr_gogeta86 | is out | 09:57 |
| dr_gogeta86 | https://www.poodletest.com/ | 09:57 |
| locusf | filippz: I'm not on my pc to check | 09:57 |
| filippz | OK locusf - I'll try with it and loose then user-session@.service file (installed by nemo-mobile-session package) | 09:58 |
| locusf | at the gym now trying to do boxing and following your progress at the same time, not going so well :) | 09:58 |
| faenil | :D | 09:59 |
| filippz | nice ;) - don't get punched in the head - we need your head intact | 09:59 |
| faenil | filippz: ah so you don't have systemd-config-mer atm? | 09:59 |
| filippz | I'm rebuilding with it now , together with kernel - it will take some time | 10:01 |
| filippz | after thatm I'm removing mce.service (causes boot to crash), and user-session@.service (despite it's name posssibly breaks users session from starting) | 10:01 |
| faenil | I don't thikn you'll have to remove user-session, if locusf has it | 10:02 |
| faenil | what about mce? | 10:02 |
| filippz | with mce N9 just shuts off while booting | 10:03 |
| Stskeepz | watchdogs? | 10:03 |
| spiiroin | watchdogs are in dsme | 10:03 |
| filippz | Stskeepz: no | 10:03 |
| filippz | it reboot's before if I blacklist some module and later if not - basically somewhere after mce starts | 10:04 |
| faenil | serial console would be so handy here... | 10:04 |
| spiiroin | mce does some sysfs probing at startup | 10:05 |
| filippz | plan is to get user session running, and then ssh into it to try starting mce | 10:05 |
| faenil | yup | 10:05 |
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| sashai | hi | 10:05 |
| sashai | i am looking for Harmattan FIASCO binaries to nokia N9 | 10:06 |
| sashai | navifirmex is down i dont get the navifirmplus working | 10:06 |
| sashai | can anyone help me? | 10:07 |
| spiiroin | btw, IIRC N9 has hw watchdogs active -> dsme needs to start early enough - or something else needs to feed them before dsme is started | 10:07 |
| spiiroin | ... or does the updated kernel change some of this? | 10:08 |
| faenil | sashai: there is a mirror, but I can't remember the URL atm | 10:08 |
| sashai | faenil: i was looking for someplace to download =) | 10:09 |
| dr_gogeta86 | http://www.mrcrab.net/nokia/Nokia_N9.html?productID=4823499691&productType=RM-696 | 10:09 |
| filippz | spiiroin: I'we blacklisted all on network modules (CMT & WLAN) making it boot (and thus start MCE) a lot faster - still din't boot | 10:09 |
| dr_gogeta86 | http://www.mrcrab.net/nokia/Nokia_N9.html?productID=4823499691&productType=RM-696&releaseID=7048842309&version=40.2012.21.3 | 10:09 |
| spiiroin | dsme is time critical in n9, not mce | 10:09 |
| spiiroin | but the startup order has evolved over time so that now all kinds of stuff is started before dsme | 10:10 |
| filippz | spiiroin: I'll know for sure once I'm able to ssh into it | 10:10 |
| spiiroin | max hw wd kick period is 14 secs, it reboot happens about that time it might the watchdog | 10:12 |
| dr_gogeta86 | how to restart clipboard | 10:13 |
| dr_gogeta86 | is stuck | 10:13 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | i copy but is always the same value | 10:13 |
| spiiroin | hmm... or maybe the fixed 14s was N900 after all | 10:14 |
| filippz | spiiroin: tbh, I think it was about that time, but with blacklisted modules last entry was around 9 secs, and that's not it AFAIK | 10:15 |
| sashai | I was looking for a file named like: DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.21-3_PR_LEGACY_001-OEM1-958_ARM.bin I couldnt find this kind of file from mr crab ;_; | 10:16 |
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| sashai | now i found it ^___^ | 10:18 |
| faenil | sashai: first result of search engine | 10:18 |
| faenil | https://www.4shared.com/file/U3Df10Vu/dfl61_harmattan_40201221-3_pr_.html | 10:18 |
| sashai | thanks guys | 10:18 |
| faenil | (can't guarantee it's actually the file you're looking for, of course ;) ) | 10:18 |
| sashai | prolly some virus trojan backdoorinfested crap | 10:19 |
| sashai | i trust mr crap ;) | 10:19 |
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| faenil | :D | 10:21 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | faenil, but who made the clipboard ? | 10:27 |
| dr_gogeta86 | are from yesterday clipboard is stuck to an url | 10:28 |
| Morpog_Jolla | just empty it? | 10:28 |
| dr_gogeta86 | how ? | 10:28 |
| Morpog_Jolla | long oress on clipboard icon | 10:29 |
| Morpog_Jolla | press | 10:29 |
| dr_gogeta86 | cleared but now copy past doesn't work | 10:29 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i've restarted maliit | 10:33 |
| dr_gogeta86 | and old value found again | 10:34 |
| SK_work | dr_gogeta86: reboot | 10:36 |
| dr_gogeta86 | no way | 10:36 |
| SK_work | maybe WL related ? | 10:36 |
| SK_work | I want to say: congrats you have found a bug :) | 10:36 |
| SK_work | (I think) | 10:36 |
| dr_gogeta86 | How to replicate | 10:36 |
| dr_gogeta86 | if you are a bug hunter | 10:36 |
| SK_work | dr_gogeta86: dunno :s | 10:36 |
| dr_gogeta86 | you need how to replicate | 10:36 |
| SK_work | true | 10:37 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i know what i did | 10:37 |
| SK_work | or debugger | 10:37 |
| SK_work | reboot | 10:37 |
| SK_work | or retry on another phone ? | 10:37 |
| dr_gogeta86 | but is it a usefull use case | 10:37 |
| SK_work | dr_gogeta86: which OS ? | 10:37 |
| SK_work | SFOS / Nemo ? | 10:37 |
| dr_gogeta86 | SFOS | 10:37 |
| SK_work | which Phone ? Jolla / N9 ? | 10:37 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Jolla | 10:37 |
| SK_work | dr_gogeta86: tell me then | 10:37 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | guys lipstick problem | 10:53 |
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| filippz | locusf, faenil: progress report - now I do get user session to start, but none of the user services from systemd get started | 12:31 |
| filippz | here is the log: http://pastebin.com/q8TwrsTr | 12:31 |
| filippz | If there are no quick ideas, I'll have to continue this evening, or even tomorrow :/ | 12:32 |
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| lbt | PSA: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Packaging/webhooks | 12:35 |
| lbt | the wh util is still in mer-tools:testing | 12:35 |
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| SK_work | <3 | 12:39 |
| lbt | feedback appreciated - and I do expect some small glitches :D | 12:40 |
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| SK_work | lbt: will there be a webview or not ? | 12:57 |
| SK_work | lbt: not for webhook mgmt, but more to check current hooks | 12:58 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | nexus 6 / 9 prices ... near the ipad price tag | 13:05 |
| SK_work | is the android L thing out ? | 13:07 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | SK_work, i dunno and i don't give ... | 13:13 |
| lbt | SK_work: https://webhook.merproject.org/webhook/ | 13:15 |
| SK_work | lbt: empty | 13:16 |
| lbt | ! | 13:16 |
| lbt | try again as I watch the log | 13:16 |
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| lbt | there must be an auth thing going on - it's supposed to be anon | 13:18 |
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| lbt | fixed | 13:22 |
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| locusf | hey faenil, was just gonna test the glacier homescreen on my devel Jolla so we can proceed to merging the PR :) | 14:46 |
| faeni | cool | 14:47 |
| faeni | phdeswer: I guess usb-moded got a bit android-centric :P | 14:47 |
| faeni | Oct 15 11:40:09 localhost usb_moded[144]: open(/sys/class/android_usb/android0/enable): No such file or directory | 14:47 |
| faeni | from filippz's log | 14:47 |
| faeni | and lpotter: Oct 15 11:40:08 localhost ofonod[178]: create_ril: can't connect to RILD: No such file or directory (2) | 14:47 |
| faeni | anything you can say about that to help us ? :) | 14:48 |
| locusf | oh yeah I was loling too at that rild stuff :) | 14:48 |
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| faeni | for those interested in debugging the ofono thing: https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/ofono/blob/7415ef741822d7b1a96f30e99e22c9607fdba7d6/ofono/gril/gril.c#L846 | 15:05 |
| faeni | I'm leaving, bbl | 15:05 |
| SK_work | faeni: lost your l ? | 15:05 |
| faeni | ? | 15:05 |
| faeni | oh crap | 15:05 |
| faeni | :D | 15:06 |
| stephg | haha | 15:06 |
| locusf | lol | 15:07 |
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| locusf | faenil: fixed pull request and tested the changes on Jolla, now browser and terminal both work :) | 16:34 |
| SK_work | locusf: :) | 16:34 |
| locusf | took just 4 months to realize it was the environment variables | 16:34 |
| locusf | qwazix: 0.15 will be the release to download :) | 16:36 |
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| qwazix | Locusf: perfect | 16:38 |
| qwazix | though my Jolla is out of order so I can't test | 16:39 |
| locusf | oh :/ | 16:39 |
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| locusf | next step: Nemo on Jolla | 16:44 |
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| locusf | Nemo on Huawei Ascend P6 is in progress | 16:48 |
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| locusf | faenil: yo, the PR has been updated :) | 17:45 |
| M4rtinK | PR 1.4 ? ;-) | 17:49 |
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| filippz | locusf: can you check from which package does user@.service comes from on n7000 (rpm -qf /lib/systemd/system/user@.service)? | 18:02 |
| locusf | filippz: systemd-config-mer-208-1.5.1.armv7hl | 18:02 |
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| filippz | locusf: do you have wait-session-to-start in /usr/lib/startup? | 18:05 |
| locusf | no such file at all | 18:05 |
| filippz | it's probably start-user-session then - and from which package is it? | 18:06 |
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| locusf | ah lib | 18:10 |
| locusf | wait a moment just rebooted it | 18:10 |
| locusf | yes I do have it there | 18:11 |
| locusf | no wait no I don't have it | 18:11 |
| locusf | start-user-session is there | 18:11 |
| locusf | nemo-mobile-session-common-24-18.1.Nemo.UX.MTF.armv7hl | 18:11 |
| filippz | locusf: np, I'm sorry to bother you with this - I'm just trying to understand why I need to modify start-user-session file to call user@.service instead of user-session@.service | 18:12 |
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| locusf | filippz: no problem at all :) | 18:18 |
| locusf | now I've got nemo on huawei p6 too :) | 18:19 |
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| locusf | Stskeepz: do you still have the environment variable to fix the fonts on p6? | 18:19 |
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| filippz | locusf: can you pastebin either P6 or n7000 journal - with user@.service and user-session@.service I was getting user-session@100000.service entered failed state, and all those OOM_ADJUST messages | 18:22 |
| locusf | filippz: sure | 18:23 |
| locusf | filippz: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9jv8it38giyfxq0/journal?dl=0 | 18:26 |
| locusf | its got a couple of reboots but the full journal should still be there | 18:26 |
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| filippz | locusf: this is driming me insane, you also get two sessions for user nemo (declared as c1, and c2) and both fail - like on N9, but lipstick somehow gets started anyway?! | 18:31 |
| filippz | hos does lipstick behave - is it responsive or it's lagging/crashing/... | 18:32 |
| locusf | filippz: do you get any output? | 18:32 |
| locusf | to graphics | 18:32 |
| locusf | are you using colorful-home or glacier-home? | 18:32 |
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| filippz | no - lipstick.service doesn't get called at all - because user session is not running - how does lipstick start even when user session is not running on n7000/p6 ?! | 18:33 |
| locusf | wtf did you see that happening from the journal? | 18:34 |
| locusf | start-user-session[919]: User session failed to start, status = failed | 18:35 |
| locusf | hmm interesting indeed | 18:35 |
| filippz | and that means systemd shouldn't start user services - right? | 18:36 |
| locusf | yeah I guess so | 18:36 |
| filippz | yet lipstick is started - would that mean that lipstick i system service instead? | 18:37 |
| filippz | can you check where lipstick.service resides? | 18:37 |
| locusf | /usr/lib/systemd/user/lipstick.service | 18:39 |
| filippz | crazy - I'm not understating systemd at all... user service gets called even if no user session is running | 18:40 |
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| locusf | yeah | 18:42 |
| M4rtinK | socket activation maybe ? | 18:43 |
| M4rtinK | or something related | 18:43 |
| M4rtinK | IIRC it is possible to make it dump the graph of what was triggered by what and in which order | 18:44 |
| M4rtinK | maybe http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-analyze.html ? | 18:44 |
| filippz | M4rtinK: unfortunately I can't even ssh into it, so I can't play with it like that | 18:45 |
| M4rtinK | ouch | 18:46 |
| filippz | For now I'll treat lisptick start as a lucky break - I'll get back to starting user@.service only, and see how to get user services running without user-session@.service like sailfish does | 18:47 |
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| faenil | let's see how long my line resists this time | 18:58 |
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| faenil | locusf: so it worked? opacity: windowVisible? | 19:00 |
| locusf | faenil: yes | 19:00 |
| faenil | cool :) | 19:00 |
| faenil | I hope you made sure that covered all the cases, because I didn't :D | 19:00 |
| locusf | well there is just one case, pressing the power button for a long time :) AFAIK | 19:03 |
| faenil | :) | 19:03 |
| faenil | filippz: any progress? (I read backlog) | 19:04 |
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| filippz | faenil: not really - I'll try to make user@.service gets called instead of user-session@.service and see how to get to start all those user services depending on user-session@.service | 19:05 |
| filippz | I just have to figure out how it's being done on jolla | 19:05 |
| filippz | anyways - thanks everybody for help - I'm off to bed o/ | 19:06 |
| locusf | me too o/ | 19:06 |
| faenil | mmm | 19:06 |
| faenil | ok good night people | 19:07 |
| filippz | faenil: maybe you know someone that can give us a hint about user@.service? | 19:07 |
| faenil | filippz: kjokinie phdeswer spiiroin one of them knows for sure :p | 19:08 |
| filippz | OK, I'm really going now - kids are sleepy :) | 19:08 |
| faenil | or mkosola ;) | 19:08 |
| faenil | filippz: alright ;) o/ | 19:08 |
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| phdeswer | Yeah ping me sometime when you have time | 19:08 |
| phdeswer | Too late :( | 19:09 |
| faenil | phdeswer: :) don't worry he'll be back tomorrow ;) but you can read about his issue in the log ;) | 19:11 |
| faenil | basically we can't get the user session to run, because of the changes that the new systemd brought | 19:11 |
| phdeswer | I quickly saw the log because of the usb_moded mention. But that thing might be due to no modules and no android gadget driver... | 19:12 |
| faenil | of course, it's on n9.. | 19:12 |
| faenil | the thing is, why is it looking for android stuff if we're on nothing like android :) | 19:12 |
| faenil | but anyway, that's a side issue :) | 19:13 |
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| phdeswer | Ah it's n9 :) Well then there must be missing kernel modules. If going to charging only it tries g_file_storage, if that's not there the newer g_mass_storage, and if that module does not exists it tries it with an android gadget. | 19:13 |
| phdeswer | Or the developer mode config for android is installed instead of the regular one. | 19:14 |
| faenil | mm I see...so what should he check? which kernel module and which android config? | 19:14 |
| faenil | full log here --> http://pastebin.com/q8TwrsTr | 19:15 |
| phdeswer | Well I guess for sure there is no android gadget. So he should check if g_file_storage and g_nokia are there. | 19:22 |
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| faenil | phdeswer: ok thanks :) do you know something about systemd user session as well? | 19:28 |
| faenil | what could we be missing? | 19:28 |
| phdeswer | Not much. Still trying to figure out bits of systemd. And it's dependency resolving and booting capabilities are very weak imho. | 19:28 |
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| faenil | ok | 19:29 |
| faenil | btw, have you seen theres' "usbcore" in the log? | 19:29 |
| faenil | Usb mass storage mode | 19:29 |
| faenil | Jan 01 00:00:03 localhost kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage | 19:30 |
| faenil | anything to do with it? | 19:30 |
| phdeswer | Just means some support might be built in | 19:32 |
| phdeswer | It's hard to know if I don't know anything about the software setup | 19:32 |
| faenil | it's nemo! :D | 19:33 |
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| faenil | on the other hand, I bet lpotter is awake already :D | 19:40 |
| lpotter | maybe | 19:40 |
| faenil | lpotter: high five! o/ | 19:41 |
| lpotter | I know nothing | 19:41 |
| lpotter | \0 | 19:41 |
| faenil | lpotter: can you check the log and give us a hint about what's wrong with connmand? :D | 19:41 |
| faenil | http://pastebin.com/q8TwrsTr | 19:41 |
| faenil | haha :) | 19:41 |
| lpotter | whats not wrong with connmand | 19:41 |
| faenil | haha | 19:41 |
| faenil | there are about 10 errors, the more you can help us with, the better, of course :D | 19:42 |
| faenil | history: this is Nemomobile (qt5.2 based) on N9 | 19:42 |
| faenil | (and we can't get it to boot yet) | 19:43 |
| lpotter | iptables support missing error 2 (No such file or directory) | 19:43 |
| lpotter | and ofonod cannot find rild | 19:44 |
| faenil | yeah | 19:45 |
| lpotter | looks like usb_moded needs some android thingies | 19:45 |
| faenil | talked to phdeswer already, but is that related to the connmand errors? | 19:45 |
| faenil | (shouldn't be) | 19:46 |
| phdeswer | lpotter: that could be missing modules on the rootfs. I have no clue about the kernel config. | 19:46 |
| lpotter | ok. don't think connman should not let it boot though | 19:47 |
| lpotter | it would just be without connectivity | 19:47 |
| phdeswer | depends if some systemd target requires it and it does not start. Then systemd will just stop | 19:48 |
| lpotter | and mess with usb net if not configured to ignore that interface | 19:48 |
| sashai | i succesfully flashed N9 to previous firmware +o/ | 19:49 |
| sashai | i am so much closer to multiboot =) | 19:49 |
| faenil | lpotter: even if connmand is not stopping it from booting...it's still a lot of errors | 19:50 |
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| faenil | so, if you have any clue... :D | 19:50 |
| faenil | we'd spend days looking for hints | 19:50 |
| lpotter | dbus never reports it activated it's dbus interface | 19:51 |
| lpotter | err connman interface | 19:51 |
| faenil | for example, where should we look if it's missing rild? why could it be missing rild? | 19:51 |
| faenil | (bbl, gtg) | 19:51 |
| phdeswer | rild should not even be on the N9 | 19:52 |
| phdeswer | faenil: do you know if that image he uses is available somewhere? | 19:59 |
| faenil | mmm :/ | 20:03 |
| faenil | phdeswer: he has his ks, maybe locusf has the file as well | 20:04 |
| phdeswer | I'll try to catch him tomorrow. Depends on when I get back from training | 20:04 |
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| faenil | phdeswer: thanks :) | 20:15 |
| gogeta_ | hi lpotter | 20:15 |
| gogeta_ | good morning | 20:15 |
| lpotter | hi | 20:16 |
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| gogeta_ | a stupid question | 20:16 |
| gogeta_ | i saw ... nemo can open tun device ... but to change default gw ? | 20:17 |
| gogeta_ | or set static route | 20:17 |
| lpotter | can do that either with a connection settings config or through dbus | 20:18 |
| gogeta_ | more safe ? | 20:20 |
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