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| faenil | good morning o/ | 07:35 |
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| faenil | rozhkov_: it doesn't build with startupcache on, because it's missing libjpeg62 | 07:38 |
| faenil | do you want me to try make it build? or is that option really not needed by nemo? | 07:38 |
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| rozhkov_ | faenil: this option has been introduced in gecko33 and I remember there were other problems apart from libjpeg. It can stay disabled for now. | 08:00 |
| faenil | rozhkov_: ok, so I'll just leave the PR like it is? | 08:01 |
| rozhkov_ | yep, looks good to me :) | 08:01 |
| faenil | vakkov: ping, did you fix the m4sugar error in the end? | 08:02 |
| faenil | rozhkov_: ok cool :) do you have to wait for upstream to merge it first? | 08:02 |
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| rozhkov_ | faenil: I don't have to, but that's my behavioral pattern :) This particular upstream is quite responsive though | 08:06 |
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| faenil | rozhkov_: ok ;) | 08:22 |
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| faenil | for those who're interested, here's where qtwebkit gets stuck (while trying to build locally, this problem doesn't seem to exist on OBS) | 08:48 |
| faenil | http://pastie.org/9630575 | 08:48 |
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| faenil | cannot open `/usr/share/bison/m4sugar/m4sugar.m4' | 08:48 |
| faenil | but the file is actually there | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | install m4 in sdk | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | not target | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | same goes for bison | 08:49 |
| faenil | Stskeeps: so the spec is missing a require? I haven't installed it anywhere :) | 08:49 |
| Stskeeps | no | 08:49 |
| Stskeeps | just that mer sdk is not ~= what it accelerates all the time | 08:49 |
| faenil | what it accelerates? | 08:50 |
| Stskeeps | bison/m4/toolchain/etc | 08:50 |
| faenil | ok | 08:51 |
| faenil | so there's no way to enforce the installation of those tools when building qtwebkit (to make it easier for the next person) | 08:51 |
| faenil | btw, m4 was installed in sdk, bison wasn't... #justforthelog | 08:52 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 08:52 |
| faenil | ok it builds, cool | 08:54 |
| faenil | Stskeeps: so, BuildRequires installs the tools in the target, but this this bison was running on host? | 08:59 |
| faenil | this time* | 08:59 |
| locusf | so qtwebkit is last? | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | (faenil:) | 09:01 |
| locusf | nice | 09:01 |
| faenil | locusf: yep, unless xulrunner and qtwebkit unlock new failures | 09:02 |
| locusf | when will the copypac to other architectures happen? | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | should happen automatically | 09:02 |
| locusf | faenil: indeed | 09:02 |
| locusf | ok | 09:02 |
| faenil | now let's just wait an hour and see if webkit builds, lol | 09:04 |
| faenil | time to get back to the thesis | 09:04 |
| locusf | yeah | 09:04 |
| locusf | I was thinking about being on the nemo stand at fosdem | 09:05 |
| faenil | locusf: I'd love to partecipate! it would cool to meet and hack there! | 09:05 |
| locusf | faenil: yep :) | 09:06 |
| faenil | let's see :) | 09:06 |
| faenil | 45€ return flight atm, that's doable :) | 09:09 |
| locusf | nice | 09:12 |
| SK_work | faenil: :D one hour :) | 09:12 |
| SK_work | thanks faenil :):) | 09:12 |
| locusf | I wanna save my tax returns to cover the flights | 09:12 |
| SK_work | it is good to see you back :) | 09:12 |
| faenil | SK_work: I should actually disappear if I don't want to risk postponing my thesis to March XD | 09:13 |
| faenil | oh btw, a bit of OT | 09:14 |
| faenil | thp: kimmoli I should receive 50mt cat5E double shielded cable today :D | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | (don't you mean tbr?) | 09:15 |
| tbr | yes he does | 09:15 |
| faenil | oops tbr I meant ^ | 09:15 |
| faenil | hehe, didn't notice ,thanks | 09:15 |
| faenil | tbr: so using *any* of the pairs in that cable should be enough, right? | 09:16 |
| faenil | or are the pairs different? | 09:16 |
| tbr | faenil: correct | 09:17 |
| faenil | tbr: ok cool...btw 15€ shipped...that's quite cheap, also considering the double shield | 09:17 |
| tbr | as a start use the full cable length, just curl it up on one end | 09:17 |
| faenil | 20mt of curl? :D ok | 09:18 |
| tbr | with proper cable that shouldn't matter | 09:18 |
| tbr | and you might need it once you put it proper | 09:18 |
| faenil | I just hope the technician will put the mass wire where it's supposed to be... | 09:18 |
| faenil | tbr: oh I'm not going to do the stairs thing though, I'm passing it through the tubes | 09:19 |
| tbr | aaah, so you found that? great | 09:21 |
| faenil | tbr: yeah I bought the special wire yesterday (don't know the english name for it) which showed the path :) | 09:22 |
| faenil | it's a stupid plastic narrow tube and it's 3x the price of a cat5e cable -.- | 09:22 |
| tbr | yeah, I have that thing too | 09:22 |
| faenil | let's call the ISP so they can send a technician in the next few days | 09:23 |
| dr_gogeta86 | corrugate faenil ? | 09:23 |
| faenil | dr_gogeta86: just desperately trying to get rid of my adsl issues, since the ISP sent a technician 4 times and he didn't know what to try, he said there were no issues | 09:24 |
| tbr | faenil: all you need them for is the hookup in the basement? | 09:24 |
| faenil | tbr: yep | 09:24 |
| tbr | *nod* | 09:24 |
| tbr | you'll have an awesome line to the basement, hopefully that was your source of problems and you'll get a great line | 09:25 |
| faenil | tbr: yeah, let's hope so... | 09:26 |
| tbr | if not, you'll have to progress to changing pairs between building and the exchange point | 09:27 |
| tbr | still having a great line to the basement is very important | 09:27 |
| tbr | you get rid of all the transient errors | 09:27 |
| tbr | like someone along the way turning on their CFL or washing machine | 09:27 |
| faenil | tbr: yeah...the problem being I can't touch the cables between the building and the exchange point, they're ISP's | 09:30 |
| tbr | sure, that's what you need the ISP technician for. | 09:31 |
| tbr | but first see if the in hous cabling helps | 09:31 |
| faenil | they're not going to change the cables for me ;) he hasn't done it so far, why would he | 09:31 |
| tbr | no, but they have dozens if not hundreds of pairs to the building | 09:31 |
| tbr | switching the line to a different pair is standard fault management procedure | 09:32 |
| tbr | if it's adjacent line interference | 09:32 |
| faenil | he said he changed the "primary line", which I guess it's what you're talking about, twice | 09:32 |
| tbr | ok :( | 09:32 |
| tbr | let's hope it's the in building part that sucks, then | 09:32 |
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| faenil | let's just hope it's that, yeah :D | 09:33 |
| tbr | that means though that they are at least trying, which is nice of them | 09:33 |
| faenil | tbr: any way I can check if the shield is working? | 09:33 |
| tbr | shoot it with a 9mm? ;) | 09:34 |
| faenil | haha | 09:34 |
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| faenil | you know, I really don't trust the technicians :D | 09:34 |
| Stskeeps | get an internship as a tiscali technician and fix it yourself? | 09:35 |
| faenil | haha :D | 09:35 |
| faenil | what hw is the OBS running on? | 09:40 |
| Stskeeps | can't recall.. lbt? | 09:41 |
| Stskeeps | similar-ish | 09:41 |
| faenil | ok, strange, it seems to be sensibly faster (comparing partial build times) | 09:41 |
| * lbt sees shield ... they're not arduinos, I can tell you that much | 09:41 | |
| faenil | lbt: lol | 09:41 |
| Stskeeps | faenil: they run in kvms on tmpfs | 09:42 |
| faenil | okay | 09:42 |
| lbt | yes - lots of RAM stuff makes builds super quick | 09:42 |
| lbt | overcommitted too nowadays | 09:42 |
| lbt | cpu is 8-core but I think single CPU | 09:42 |
| faenil | 8 core or 8 threads | 09:42 |
| lbt | yeah | 09:43 |
| lbt | do you really need to know ? | 09:43 |
| faenil | nono ;) | 09:43 |
| lbt | ie do you want to buy HW | 09:43 |
| lbt | OK :) | 09:43 |
| faenil | just curious :) | 09:43 |
| lbt | 2-3 year old Hetzner hosts. Don't have the specs now | 09:44 |
| lbt | model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz | 09:45 |
| lbt | and similar | 09:45 |
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| faenil | ok, ok :) | 09:45 |
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| faenil | thanks | 09:45 |
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| faenil | tbr: want to hear latest news? | 10:23 |
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| faenil | oops lol | 10:23 |
| faenil | I'll take that as a no XD | 10:23 |
| SK_work | :D | 10:24 |
| SK_work | faenil: webkit building atm ? | 10:24 |
| kimmoli | faenil: late ack | 10:24 |
| faenil | OH YES BABY, qtwebkit5 build succeeded! | 10:24 |
| faenil | woohoo | 10:24 |
| SK_work | awesome :) | 10:25 |
| faenil | now just waiting for the ok from upstream and rozhkov_, and we should be done! \o/ | 10:27 |
| faenil | yay https://github.com/mer-packages/qtwebkit5/pull/21 | 10:32 |
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| faenil | veskuh: maybe you can review https://github.com/mer-packages/qtwebkit5/pull/21 ? :) 1 line commit :p | 10:42 |
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| veskuh | faenil, should be fine but still better that VDVsx checks that accounts, email, etc. will work with that. | 10:58 |
| veskuh | nah, its fine. | 11:00 |
| faenil | :) | 11:00 |
| VDVsx | was - and now is also - for us since no x11, seems safe | 11:01 |
| faenil | yay | 11:01 |
| faenil | just a bit unsure that's the ideal way to do it, so I'll wait for some advice on that before merging | 11:02 |
| faenil | (actually I can't merge) | 11:02 |
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| zbenjamin | hey guys where can i get the flasher from nowadays? | 11:25 |
| zbenjamin | and a n9 firmware image ... oO the servers are gone | 11:33 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: ^ | 11:33 |
| SK_work | zbenjamin: http://mirror.thecust.net/ | 11:34 |
| SK_work | zbenjamin: not sure if everything is here | 11:35 |
| zbenjamin | SK_work: hm are there the original firmware images too? | 11:36 |
| SK_work | zbenjamin: maybe | 11:36 |
| SK_work | don't know | 11:36 |
| SK_work | need to search tmo | 11:36 |
| SK_work | one sec | 11:36 |
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| faenil | zbenjamin: don't remember, I remember there are a couple of mirrors though | 11:37 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: ok, i needed to send in my jolla and need a device for the wait | 11:37 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: found this but i don't know if that is a reliable source http://www.mrcrab.net/nokia/Nokia_N9.html?productID=4823499691&productType=RM-696&releaseID=7048842309&version=40.2012.21.3 | 11:38 |
| zbenjamin | but it seems to directly link to the nokia servers | 11:39 |
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| faenil | zbenjamin: yeah... | 12:02 |
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| AdrianoCampos | #MauiProject | 12:11 |
| faenil | AdrianoCampos: ? :) | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | faenil: locusf: SK_work: succeed 582, failed 1, unresolvable 2 | 12:15 |
| Stskeeps | good work | 12:15 |
| SK_work | Stskeeps: which one failing ? | 12:15 |
| faenil | \o/ | 12:15 |
| Stskeeps | SK_work: xulrunner | 12:15 |
| faenil | xulrunner, waiting for upstream to merge ;) | 12:15 |
| Stskeeps | faenil's on it | 12:15 |
| SK_work | faenil: :) | 12:15 |
| SK_work | cool | 12:15 |
| SK_work | is upstream rozhkov_ | 12:15 |
| SK_work | ? | 12:15 |
| Stskeeps | at this point you guys should start looking into what is missing from nemo:mw in there that you'd need to overlay as glacier | 12:15 |
| faenil | no, he's nemo, upstream is tmeshkova | 12:15 |
| faenil | Stskeeps: which means: build all nemo apps and see what fails? xD | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | pretty much | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | plus components | 12:18 |
| faenil | sure | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | there's still armv7hl breakages | 12:18 |
| faenil | I don't know what is supposed to be there though, except what's needed by the apps | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | you'll find out pretty quickly | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | doing a rebuild -f of mer-core:armv7hl:devel | 12:19 |
| faenil | okay, the world is going to explode in 5..4....3....2...1... | 12:20 |
| bencoh | yay flesh and blood all over | 12:20 |
| Stskeeps | so a few of https://build.merproject.org/project/monitor/mer-core:armv7hl:devel?arch_armv8el=1&defaults=0&failed=1&repo_Core_armv7hl=1 is stuff i need to poke (sb2-tools related) | 12:25 |
| faenil | ok | 12:26 |
| faenil | many "error while loading shared libraries: libQt5Xml.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" around | 12:27 |
| faenil | or libQt5Core.so | 12:28 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 12:28 |
| faenil | Stskeeps: you can stop xulrunner, which is building now | 12:29 |
| faenil | since it should fail anyway | 12:29 |
| faenil | (and it takes longer than qtwebkit to build) | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | it'll die in a moment anywy.. | 12:31 |
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| faenil | filippz: sorry if I ask again, so, kernel 3.5 kind of works on n9 right? we just need a working nemo on top | 12:35 |
| filippz | faenil: yes - it works OK (I've been playing with Sailfish OS - there is a problem with latest lipstick - orientation is broken) | 12:37 |
| faenil | great :) | 12:37 |
| faenil | yeah I saw you wrote a pdf about it | 12:37 |
| faenil | (haven't read it yet though) | 12:37 |
| filippz | on nemo latest lipstick was unbildable (AFAIK there was missing glib or something to that effect) | 12:38 |
| faenil | yeah not an issue, we'll get to that later | 12:38 |
| faenil | once nemo-mer merge progresses | 12:38 |
| filippz | who knows wheter that problem will be on nemo also | 12:38 |
| faenil | hehe | 12:38 |
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| faenil | I'm looking forward to getting to that level, it seems it will still take some time though ;( | 12:41 |
| faenil | ;) | 12:41 |
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| SK_work | faenil: weired that it is qdoc related | 12:42 |
| SK_work | missing Qt5Xml | 12:42 |
| faenil | are those the sb2-tools related errors Stskeeps ? | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | working on it | 12:43 |
| faenil | SK_work: ^ ding! :D | 12:43 |
| SK_work | :) | 12:43 |
| faenil | Stskeeps: great, thanks! | 12:43 |
| faenil | bbl | 12:44 |
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| locusf | oh we probably need to change the build target of nemo:devel:ux to the latest mer+nemo repository | 13:16 |
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| Stskeeps | nod | 13:18 |
| Stskeeps | wait for armv7hl to rebuild imho | 13:18 |
| locusf | yep | 13:18 |
| locusf | maybe tomorrow | 13:22 |
| SK_work | will it build for sure ? | 13:26 |
| Stskeeps | just add another repo | 13:27 |
| locusf | yeah should be as simple as that | 13:28 |
| locusf | if we keep nemo:devel:ux as glacier project | 13:28 |
| locusf | but there is the components package which is in nemo:devel:mw | 13:28 |
| SK_work | locusf: I think we should pull it out of components and push in ux | 13:29 |
| SK_work | hum | 13:29 |
| SK_work | maybe | 13:29 |
| SK_work | locusf: which components package ? qqcn ? | 13:29 |
| locusf | https://build.merproject.org/package/show/nemo:devel:mw/qtquickcontrols-nemo | 13:32 |
| locusf | 3 yeah | 13:32 |
| SK_work | locusf: I think QQCN should be pull out of nemo and go to nemo ux | 13:32 |
| locusf | SK_work: ok will do when I have maintainer rights to them | 13:33 |
| SK_work | locusf: thanks :) | 13:34 |
| zbenjamin | hmm if i flash the emmc and firmware image from here: http://www.mrcrab.net/nokia/Nokia_N9.html?productID=4823499691&productType=RM-696&releaseID=7048842309&variantID=7076942645&productCode=059K0Z2&version=40.2012.21.3 will that reset the device to factory state? | 13:37 |
| zbenjamin | i cannot find a moslo image to remove the alt partition | 13:38 |
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| SK_work | zbenjamin: I do think so | 13:40 |
| SK_work | not sure | 13:40 |
| SK_work | zbenjamin: ever asked on #harmattan btw ? | 13:41 |
| zbenjamin | SK_work: well then i will find out i guess ;) | 13:41 |
| zbenjamin | SK_work: nop | 13:41 |
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| zbenjamin | SK_work: i asked there, lets see if someone responds | 13:44 |
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| locusf | Stskeeps: do you know who maintains nemo:devel:ux at the moment? | 13:59 |
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| faenil | locusf: https://build.merproject.org/project/users/nemo:devel:ux | 14:47 |
| faenil | w00t and Sage | 14:47 |
| locusf | faenil: ah thanks | 14:48 |
| faenil | https://twitter.com/faenil/status/519861857218093058 | 14:48 |
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| faenil | Stskeeps: you said it would fail fast? lol https://build.merproject.org/package/live_build_log/mer-core:armv7hl:devel/xulrunner-qt5/Core_armv7hl/armv8el | 14:55 |
| faenil | 4111secs :D | 14:55 |
| locusf | faenil: Sage is also in twitter afaik | 14:56 |
| faenil | locusf: yeah but he's usually very busy | 14:57 |
| faenil | with top-secret jolla plans :D | 14:57 |
| locusf | faenil: sure he really is :) | 14:57 |
| SK_work | 4111s is nice | 14:59 |
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| locusf | oh w00t doesn't know how give maintainer roles | 16:53 |
| SK_work | locusf: that's not hard :/ | 16:55 |
| SK_work | go to users > select faenil, and select maintainer :/ | 16:55 |
| locusf | I guess not | 16:55 |
| locusf | hmm | 16:55 |
| locusf | SK_work: you might wanna holler at him in twitter thoguh or should I? | 16:56 |
| SK_work | locusf: well I said this, but I'm clearly not sure :( | 16:57 |
| SK_work | maybe give him a hint at looking at the users tab :) ? | 16:57 |
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| locusf | SK_work: okay :) | 16:58 |
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| Sage_ | faenil: did you get that already? | 18:20 |
| Sage_ | well now you do ;) | 18:20 |
| locusf | Sage_: what about me? :) | 18:21 |
| Sage_ | done | 18:24 |
| locusf | thanks :) | 18:25 |
| * Morpog_PC__ fears all the power locusf and faenil now got :D | 18:25 | |
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| locusf | qqcn is now branched to nemo:devel:ux repo from nemo:devel:mw to adjust to webhooks | 18:30 |
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| faenil | lol | 18:38 |
| faenil | thanks Sage_ ! I hope you're fine! You're basically like a ghost since last year :D | 18:38 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC__: YOU SHALL DIIIIIE | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | O_o | 18:41 |
| Morpog_PC__ | :D | 18:42 |
| faenil | yay, xulrunner fixes have been merged upstream, we'll hopefully get them merged on nemo repo as well tomorrow :) | 18:43 |
| locusf | faenil: anf that will finally fix things, hopefully? :) | 18:43 |
| locusf | *and | 18:43 |
| faenil | locusf: yeah! on i486! hehe | 18:43 |
| locusf | lol | 18:43 |
| faenil | then many bad things will happen on other archs :D | 18:44 |
| faenil | rozhkov_: oh I see you've merged them already on embedlite_31! | 18:46 |
| faenil | should I use that branch for nemo? or wait for 33? | 18:46 |
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| locusf | theres 9 xulrunner builds happening now, wow | 18:50 |
| Stskeeps | well | 18:50 |
| locusf | thats gonna take a while now then | 18:50 |
| Stskeeps | there's a rebuild going on, on all the ports | 18:50 |
| locusf | yep | 18:50 |
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| faenil | holy s*** :D | 18:56 |
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| Wikiwide | Hello! I am trying to re-flash N950 per instructions here: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Single_boot.2Floading | 19:51 |
| Wikiwide | However, both sudo umount /dev/sdb and sudo umount /media/Alt_OS fail with "not mounted" | 19:53 |
| Wikiwide | And then, instead of booting, the green letters say: "No MeeGo kernel image found" | 19:53 |
| Wikiwide | And accordingly, powers off after 5 4 3 2 1 0 count. | 19:54 |
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| faenil | Wikiwide: I've always used ubiboot myself ;/ | 19:55 |
| faenil | never tried the singleboot method | 19:55 |
| Wikiwide | Multi-boot sounds attractive, but more complicated ;/ | 19:56 |
| Wikiwide | Alright, it is possible that 'on the first go' flasher did not flash the kernel correctly | 19:57 |
| Wikiwide | 6 kB/s does not sound right | 19:57 |
| faenil | don't remember | 19:58 |
| faenil | http://www.swagman.org/juice/ubiboot/README <--- follow the RECOMMENDED path, and you'll be good :D | 19:59 |
| Wikiwide | Still the same! What's happening? | 20:03 |
| faenil | dunno :/ could be expected? Don't know how reliable that single-boot method is | 20:04 |
| faenil | I think locusf used that a while ago though | 20:04 |
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| Wikiwide | It used to be reliable ;/ | 20:05 |
| Wikiwide | Third time is the charm... This time, I am insisting on mounting Alt_OS manually, even though it pretends to have mounted automatically | 20:10 |
| faenil | :) | 20:10 |
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| Wikiwide | Lipstick started! Nemo blue screen passed... Green letters passed... | 20:13 |
| Wikiwide | Hooray! Thank you! :D | 20:14 |
| Wikiwide | How is it going with migration to Qt5.2, I wonder?.. | 20:14 |
| faenil | Wikiwide: haha | 20:16 |
| faenil | Wikiwide: well, Jolla is fighitng hard against its bugs it seems | 20:17 |
| Wikiwide | :) | 20:17 |
| faenil | they're at the 11th RC for the last update | 20:17 |
| faenil | so I guess Qt5.2, which is the biggest change, brought a lot of new issues :) | 20:17 |
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| Wikiwide | I hope that when dependency hell of Nemo Mobile is resolved, a new image will be posted :) I cannot test new software if I cannot install it... | 20:18 |
| Wikiwide | And currently, the latest image is 2014-02. | 20:19 |
| Wikiwide | Thank you! Good bye! | 20:19 |
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| gogeta | hi guys | 20:20 |
| gogeta | faenil, you are an hero | 20:20 |
| faenil | gogeta: no way, I don't want to hear that, I'm just cleaning the floor on the ship! | 20:21 |
| M4rtinK | I'll sure test the next image once it is available :) | 20:26 |
| gogeta | http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130728224205/villains/images/e/e4/Nautilus-Class123.jpg | 20:27 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, any idea where is qwazix ? I kinda think I haven't seen him for a while | 20:27 |
| gogeta | something like this | 20:27 |
| gogeta | two weeks ago on irc | 20:27 |
| crevetor | Hi guys ! | 20:28 |
| faenil | M4rtinK: next image will be in*months* imho | 20:28 |
| faenil | crevetor: hey! | 20:29 |
| faenil | M4rtinK: he's always busy with job, I guess | 20:29 |
| M4rtinK | ok :) | 20:29 |
| crevetor | I'd like to fork https://github.com/nemomobile/buteo-sync-plugins-social in order to try to fix https://together.jolla.com/question/39236/bug-google-calendar-events-off-by-12-hours/ is there a guide somewhere on how to get started doing that ? | 20:31 |
| crevetor | I think this https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Development is it. Am I right ? | 20:32 |
| faenil | crevetor: not sure how up to date that is, but the process goes like this: | 20:33 |
| faenil | you fork it on github, you mod it, send a pull request when you're done | 20:33 |
| faenil | to do local builds you use "mb2" on a MerSDK, using an armv7hl target | 20:34 |
| crevetor | Ok that's what I was wondering | 20:34 |
| crevetor | thanks | 20:34 |
| faenil | no problem | 20:34 |
| faenil | you can also use sailfishsdk of course | 20:35 |
| faenil | (I haven't tried that myself though) | 20:35 |
| crevetor | I'll use mb2, it should compile faster ;) | 20:35 |
| faenil | well, I guess sailfishsdk uses mb2 as well | 20:41 |
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| crevetor | when I do an mb2 build it complains that it's missing its build dependencies but doesn't install them. How do I fix that ? | 21:20 |
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| faenil | crevetor: you add BuildRequires to the .spec file | 21:28 |
| faenil | it is says "nothing provides" | 21:28 |
| faenil | then try refreshing the repos cache | 21:28 |
| faenil | with zypper refresh | 21:28 |
| faenil | if it says* | 21:28 |
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| Oksana | KaIRC: are you here? | 22:38 |
| KaIRC | Oksana: yes, I am | 22:39 |
| KaIRC | what's up? | 22:39 |
| Oksana | I wanted to ask, why Mozilla donated N900s to Neo900? It does not seem like Mozilla-related project? | 22:39 |
| Oksana | Unless they will get Firefox OS to run on N900/Neo900? | 22:40 |
| Oksana | Curious :) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=701784 | 22:40 |
| Merbot | Mozilla bug 701784 in Other "figure out what to do with the n900s" [Normal,New] | 22:40 |
| KaIRC | Oksana: mostly just because we had those old N900s lying around from back when we did actually run automated tests for Fennec (old mobile Firefox) for Maemo, and we didn't want to throw them away if someone would still be able to use them | 22:42 |
| Oksana | So, they were the only ones able to take them en masse ? | 22:42 |
| M4rtinK | heh | 22:42 |
| M4rtinK | "We have a total of 84 devices" | 22:42 |
| KaIRC | Oksana: and I read about Neo900 (and met some people at FOSDEM) and said in the bug that we should give the left-over old devices to them as they are doing open hardware stuff with it and that's in our line philosophically :) | 22:43 |
| M4rtinK | interesting little tidbit indeed :) | 22:43 |
| KaIRC | that is, after asking the Neo900 folks if they could need them ;-) | 22:43 |
| Oksana | Yes :) http://infobot.rikers.org/%23neo900/20131103.html.gz | 22:44 |
| KaIRC | Oksana: exactly that snippet :) | 22:45 |
| M4rtinK | I find it quite funny that the N900 (~2009) has more RAM than the latest FirefoxOS smartphone that was just released in India :) | 22:45 |
| M4rtinK | the thraget group is widely different, but still, 5 years :) | 22:45 |
| KaIRC | took long enough after all to get that to a closure but I think it's finally getting done | 22:46 |
| KaIRC | M4rtinK: yes, it appears that RAM prices still matter if you do real mass-production (and that's what Spreadtrum does there - they do the full board integrated with the software as a turn-key solution and multiple "phone makers" just put a nice case and screen around it | 22:48 |
| M4rtinK | now when I think about it, my Neo FreeRunner also has 128 MB of RAM :) | 22:49 |
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| KaIRC | M4rtinK: so you're in the same boat as those users in India that are running Firefox OS with a full modern browser stack on that size (which is IMHO a bit crazy, but perf is not very enlightening anyhow) | 22:51 |
| KaIRC | to be fair, we're using some RAM compression there, I think zram | 22:51 |
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| M4rtinK | sure, but that it can get you just so far :) | 22:59 |
| M4rtinK | but zram itself is nice :) | 22:59 |
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| M4rtinK | I'm using it on quite a few devices already (on my Jolla, the N9 has it by default, on my computer at work and we have it at one of our virtualization servers at work) | 23:01 |
| M4rtinK | and we recently added it to the Fedora installer environment so that people can install with less RAM :) | 23:01 |
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| qwazix | M4rtinK: alive and kicking! Just a tad busy | 23:29 |
| M4rtinK | qwazix: glad you are fine :) | 23:30 |
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| qwazix | M4rtinK: how are things on your side? | 23:37 |
| M4rtinK | M4rtinK: still a bit busy, but it is always like that :) | 23:39 |
| M4rtinK | qwazix: ^^ | 23:39 |
| qwazix | yeah, always. I've learnt to love it though. | 23:39 |
| M4rtinK | I've also finally managed to do new modRana release & my talk about modRana got accepted to a local Linux/open-tech conference :) | 23:40 |
| M4rtinK | qwazix: yeah, it is all just so interesting, but so much to do and so little time :) | 23:41 |
| qwazix | Oh, nice :) I've been spending some time learning blender and CGI so my mobile related work has slowrd down | 23:41 |
| M4rtinK | I've also tried if I can run current modRana on current Nemo, but the system was too broken to do anything :) | 23:41 |
| M4rtinK | interesting, that can be handy for your design work :) | 23:42 |
| qwazix | true that, I've already filled a drawer with new gadgets that I haven't really found the time to play with | 23:42 |
| qwazix | (that was about the 'how little time' comment) | 23:43 |
| qwazix | yes, (re: design work) i've realised that doing 3d opens possibilities in 2d design too | 23:43 |
| M4rtinK | well, I've tried that too long ago | 23:48 |
| M4rtinK | but decided it is too much fiddling for little gain :) | 23:48 |
| M4rtinK | so I'm rather trying to get better with normal pencil and paper :) | 23:49 |
| qwazix | yeah probably most of the time. It's just that you add a few things to your 'I know how I can achieve that effect' list | 23:50 |
| M4rtinK | it is also much more portable than current digital art stuff (either 2D or 3D) :) | 23:50 |
| M4rtinK | sure :) | 23:51 |
| qwazix | true, but you can't ship icons with p&p | 23:51 |
| M4rtinK | well, that would be rather innovative :) | 23:51 |
| qwazix | even then, there's postprocessing to be done | 23:52 |
| M4rtinK | well, I'll have to learn a bit about 3D modeling anyway due to 3D printing :) | 23:52 |
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| qwazix | nice idea though, would be a first, a completely handdrawn UI | 23:53 |
| M4rtinK | you need to know that to make your own models or to change the existing ones | 23:53 |
| M4rtinK | well they told us in the HCI class that information systems don't really need computers at all :) | 23:53 |
| qwazix | yeah, and one thing that I learnt by fiddling with blender was that what I thought was the obvious way to model sth, almost always was the hardest one | 23:54 |
| M4rtinK | and they provided the information system (information tables, orientation arrows, etc.) at the local ZOO one of them did as an example :) | 23:54 |
| M4rtinK | hh | 23:55 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, OpenSCAD has a nice idea for 3D modeling: http://www.openscad.org/ | 23:55 |
| M4rtinK | at least for people used to programming :) | 23:55 |
| M4rtinK | most 3D printer prats are designed as OpenSCAD models, sou you can submit pull-requests on them :) | 23:56 |
| M4rtinK | *parts | 23:56 |
| qwazix | Nice, I always thought that you should be able to edit underlying code of WYSIWYG apps for when things become tough | 23:57 |
| qwazix | that's the reason I like svg | 23:57 |
| qwazix | not actual programming, but at least it's text based | 23:58 |
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