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| stephg | because. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdQDXs75Ulo | 07:44 |
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| artemma | DocumentGallery that some Sailfish examples use is not a part of standard Qt 5.x, but rather remainings of old QtMobility that only Nemo uses, correct? | 12:54 |
| special | artemma: https://qt.gitorious.org/qt-mobility | 12:56 |
| special | that said, iirc mobility is not part of the upstream Qt5 releases and release cycle currently | 12:57 |
| artemma | special: thanks. I was wondering for not-sailfish stuff. Wanted to play with Qt on Android and figured there seems to be no Qt way to list user photos | 13:07 |
| special | not sure if anybody has started porting mobility to android | 13:07 |
| tbr | I think some parts of mobility got folded into qt5 | 13:08 |
| tbr | some obviously didn't get there, but maybe if someone starts digging/doing? | 13:09 |
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| locusf | slow day? :) | 15:54 |
| faenil | locusf, how's your connection instead :D | 15:56 |
| locusf | heheh true that :) | 15:58 |
| locusf | still slow too | 15:58 |
| locusf | my provider can't issue an installation order for my adsl yet | 15:59 |
| locusf | as the house has different numbering of apartments from before | 15:59 |
| faenil | locusf, aw | 15:59 |
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| coderus | why still using adsl? why still using landlines btw? | 16:09 |
| locusf | prehistoric house | 16:09 |
| special | hm | 16:10 |
| coderus | hm | 16:10 |
| special | github is giving me unicorns :| | 16:10 |
| faenil | coderus, what else? | 16:10 |
| locusf | they did build the capabilities to put fiber in the house | 16:10 |
| locusf | so thats gonna be great when it happens | 16:10 |
| faenil | locusf, indeed | 16:10 |
| special | ..now I got a "405 not allowed" from github | 16:12 |
| special | and it says I changed infinity files with this PR | 16:12 |
| special | I guess this means it's dinnertime | 16:12 |
| coderus | i like unicorns and octovan kenobi | 16:13 |
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| faenil | coderus, do you have fiber over there? | 16:16 |
| coderus | will not release next Mitakuuluu update until i figure out that awesome and super-transparent video encoder settings :D | 16:16 |
| coderus | faenil: me? why me? why asking me? | 16:16 |
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| faenil | coderus, because you asked why still using landlines/adsl :) | 16:16 |
| coderus | faenil: in russia we have DHCP internet connections everywhere, but we're still using ADSL for far away districts and villages, but they prefer satellite, not ADSL. it just an alternative for old peoples whu still have landlines for calling and want their PC connected to internet | 16:18 |
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| faenil | DHCP internet connection? | 16:19 |
| faenil | I only know dhcp network protocol... | 16:19 |
| coderus | in new house i just pulling cable, calling provider, telling my ID and name and have access to internet with my own data plan and etc. :) | 16:20 |
| faenil | cool | 16:20 |
| coderus | i mean i dont need to write any connection settings, service operator DHCP resolving everything after two minutes after my call | 16:20 |
| faenil | in Italy you have to wait 2-3 weeks before you have adsl in your new house | 16:21 |
| coderus | that sucks | 16:21 |
| faenil | indeed | 16:21 |
| coderus | well, uou really ahve many old houses | 16:21 |
| faenil | mostly PPPoE here, btw | 16:21 |
| locusf | yeah I gotta still wait probably 1 week here | 16:21 |
| coderus | they dont want to make holes in ancient houses :) | 16:21 |
| locusf | new houses should have fiber | 16:22 |
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| coderus | in russia everybody can get a зукащкфещк фтв ьфлу ф рщду шт еру цфдд Ж) | 16:22 |
| coderus | oops | 16:22 |
| coderus | *can get a perforator and make hole in the wall :) | 16:22 |
| coderus | yeah in new houses we have fiber at the roof and RJ45 in every room | 16:23 |
| faenil | we have fiber too, in new houses | 16:23 |
| faenil | but fiber isn't that widespread, it's only in 100k inhabitants cities | 16:23 |
| coderus | right | 16:23 |
| coderus | i can't believe if there in russia i have better internet han you have in europe :o | 16:24 |
| locusf | gotta agree on that :p | 16:25 |
| faenil | well, Italy...don't know what's the situation out there :D | 16:25 |
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| faenil | I know that in UK they use cable internet a lot | 16:25 |
| faenil | and cable tv as well | 16:25 |
| locusf | I wish I had cable tv, then the connection shouldn't be an issue | 16:26 |
| faenil | while it's totally unused here | 16:26 |
| faenil | (afaik) | 16:26 |
| coderus | right, cable tv and cable internet is widespread in russia | 16:26 |
| faenil | I see | 16:26 |
| coderus | in every city > 40k | 16:26 |
| faenil | interesting differences :) | 16:26 |
| faenil | coderus, what's the avg data plan speed? | 16:26 |
| coderus | 40-50 Mbps | 16:27 |
| faenil | symmetric | 16:27 |
| coderus | 40 Mbps costs $10/month | 16:27 |
| locusf | lol | 16:27 |
| faenil | holy fsck... | 16:27 |
| coderus | and some bonuses if i'll pay every month at the same date | 16:27 |
| coderus | you? | 16:28 |
| faenil | and does it actually run at that speed, or is it the usual marketing bs? | 16:28 |
| coderus | actually | 16:28 |
| faenil | usually plans here are 20mbps down / 1mbps up | 16:28 |
| coderus | we have 100Mbps plans with no problems | 16:28 |
| locusf | I got my 8MBits for 20€ | 16:28 |
| faenil | but you never reach 20 | 16:28 |
| coderus | i'll givve you speedtest results in a half of hour | 16:28 |
| faenil | real bandwidth it's somewhere around 7-10mbps down / 1mbps up | 16:28 |
| coderus | not at home atm | 16:28 |
| coderus | faenil: its because of adsl? | 16:29 |
| faenil | yep | 16:29 |
| coderus | up is sucks in adsl | 16:29 |
| coderus | asymetric shit | 16:29 |
| faenil | yep | 16:29 |
| faenil | in big cities you get fiber | 16:29 |
| faenil | 100mbps | 16:29 |
| faenil | for something like 30-40€/month | 16:29 |
| coderus | and for adsl we have unlimited/uncontrollable traffic because of that | 16:30 |
| faenil | also in my city, but only in some areas, and that's expensive | 16:30 |
| locusf | mobile internet here is cheap though but incredibly flaky | 16:30 |
| coderus | with adsl we pay only for incoming | 16:30 |
| coderus | mobile internet is about $0.2/1MB | 16:31 |
| coderus | but for unlimited data plan we have 3-5GB/Month for $10 | 16:31 |
| coderus | 3G+ | 16:31 |
| faenil | no fixed data plans? | 16:31 |
| faenil | ah cool | 16:31 |
| coderus | we have no 4G | 16:31 |
| coderus | only moscow and some other cities, and coverage is very small | 16:32 |
| faenil | 4g only in 100k+ cities as well here (maybe 150k+) | 16:32 |
| faenil | yeah | 16:32 |
| faenil | I'm not even sure it covers all of Rome | 16:32 |
| faenil | anyway | 16:32 |
| coderus | 4G in russia is highly experimental for now | 16:32 |
| faenil | 3g+ plan is 6-10€ for 1-2Gb | 16:32 |
| faenil | (with 10€ you can get 200mins calls, 200texts, 2Gb internet) | 16:32 |
| coderus | i cant give you info about calls,texts, i'm not using it and not reading how much it costs :D | 16:33 |
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| faenil | I'm talking about promos I hear about :D | 16:33 |
| coderus | i dont hear in headphones :) | 16:34 |
| faenil | I pay 3€ for 4000sms to people of the same provider | 16:34 |
| faenil | and 4,5€ for 1gb internet | 16:34 |
| faenil | that's it :D | 16:34 |
| coderus | okay, i have some info | 16:34 |
| faenil | many friends don't have a data plan, so I need text messages | 16:35 |
| SK_work | in coverage | 16:35 |
| SK_work | 20€ here: unlimited calls sms and 4G | 16:35 |
| SK_work | (limited bandwith over 20go) | 16:35 |
| SK_work | but 4G do not really exist (with my provider) | 16:35 |
| faenil | :) | 16:36 |
| coderus | cheaper provider have $0,00025 for 1SMS or call to any provider in same city :) | 16:36 |
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| SK_work | as with ADSL, well, I have fiber to the building + cable to the apt | 16:36 |
| SK_work | that is about 25€ | 16:36 |
| SK_work | and crappy as hell :( | 16:36 |
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| SK_work | (barely reach 20Mb :() | 16:36 |
| faenil | well, symmetric 20mb is cool | 16:37 |
| SK_work | faenil: non-symmetric | 16:37 |
| SK_work | maybe 10 Mb up in best conditions | 16:37 |
| coderus | ok, i'll go to home now and will send you speedtest results :) | 16:37 |
| faenil | SK_work, still :D | 16:37 |
| SK_work | coderus: :D | 16:38 |
| SK_work | lol | 16:38 |
| faenil | coderus, I don't want to see it! :D | 16:38 |
| SK_work | 4G tested with netradar on the Jolla gave me 50mbps dl and about 10 up iirc | 16:38 |
| SK_work | so, faster than "fiber" :D | 16:38 |
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| coderus | faenil: http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3543140228 | 16:55 |
| faenil | screw you | 16:56 |
| Aard | SK_work: it can go to over 100mbit | 16:56 |
| coderus | faenil: http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3543144558 | 16:57 |
| coderus | this one is from Chelyabinsk to Helsinki | 16:57 |
| faenil | gah | 16:58 |
| locusf | lol | 16:58 |
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| locusf | my speedtest would be pathetic so won't paste it | 17:00 |
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| SK_work | Aard: what can go over 100mbit ? | 17:09 |
| SK_work | 4G ? | 17:09 |
| Aard | SK_work: jolla on 4g | 17:09 |
| SK_work | Aard: ok, but not in Paris with Free :P | 17:09 |
| SK_work | as it usually goes to 0mbit | 17:09 |
| Aard | probably not. if you're in the right place in finland it does :p | 17:09 |
| SK_work | (roaming switch, crappy 3G etc.) | 17:09 |
| SK_work | pff | 17:10 |
| Aard | at home I only get 25mbit own/30mbit up, living in a not fully done 4g area | 17:10 |
| SK_work | Aard: at home, no 4G | 17:10 |
| Aard | I usually don't use 4g at home, I get 100mbit down/50down for 20 eur/month | 17:11 |
| * SK_work jealous | 17:11 | |
| SK_work | France is so crappy when it comes to Internet access | 17:11 |
| SK_work | bad 4G, bad ADSL, no fiber | 17:11 |
| Aard | I'll move soon, though. will probably make internet a bit slower and/or more expensive | 17:12 |
| SK_work | :( | 17:13 |
| faenil | Aard, leaving the dark country? | 17:13 |
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| coderus | openrepos server speedtest to helsinki: http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3543245884 | 17:47 |
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