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faenil | morning o/ | 08:12 |
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iekku | ahoy | 08:15 |
locusf | morning | 08:15 |
dr_gogeta86 | hi guys | 08:16 |
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faenil | Aard, would it be possible to have a skeleton of a pattern for jolla? just to avoid having to reverse it by ourselves | 08:30 |
faenil | we would use it as a base for nemo | 08:30 |
faenil | HW adaptation pattern basically is what we need | 08:30 |
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locusf | yeah we can go from there | 08:36 |
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sledges | mould roarning! | 08:45 |
sledges | faenil: you will have it very soon, im working on it, and i hope you'll be able to benefit | 08:45 |
Aard | faenil: you should be able to query the patterns from the repos | 08:46 |
Aard | what exactly are you trying? | 08:46 |
faenil | Aard, right...that's how the update system works :/ | 08:46 |
faenil | Aard, well, just making a pattern to build Nemo images for the Jolla | 08:46 |
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Aard | faenil: this is a bit tricky, with the hw-adaptation behind auth | 08:47 |
locusf | oh :/ | 08:49 |
faenil | mmm :/ | 08:49 |
locusf | we could try to use a Jolla device as a proxy in the .ks, with a webserver running on it and serving cached packages | 08:50 |
locusf | though thats non-repeatable | 08:51 |
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Aard | locusf: you can extract credentials from the device, but they're personalized -- so I'd not share those | 08:53 |
dr_gogeta86 | how to ? | 08:53 |
locusf | Aard: I wasn't exactly meaning that, I meant that zypper can be made to cache packages to the device | 08:54 |
locusf | zypper mr -k -all | 08:55 |
locusf | and then just copy them over a webserver or serve them with the correct dir structure on Jolla | 08:56 |
Aard | locusf: that's something I'd strongly advise you not to do. it'd require legal checks from our side, and we might be forced by 3rd parties owning the rights on hw adaptation bits to come after you | 08:57 |
Aard | so if you do that make sure it's not tracable to anyone | 08:58 |
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locusf | Aard: as I suspected, won't do so then | 08:58 |
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faenil | Aard, can you remind me what's the issue with hw adapt being downloadable? | 09:04 |
faenil | as in, why was it closed in the first place | 09:13 |
faenil | I only remember maps/dalvik being an issue | 09:13 |
tbr | faenil: 3rd party IPR | 09:16 |
faenil | :/ | 09:16 |
tbr | a lot of that stuff is probably "owned" by other companies, like Qualcomm | 09:16 |
tbr | and they don't bother to cater to the open source hippy crowd | 09:17 |
tbr | I'd suggest to investigate if sufficiently similar or identical binaries can be obtained legally through alternative channels | 09:18 |
tbr | in case of qualcomm that would probably mean codeaurora | 09:18 |
faenil | Aard, how do I get the patterns? (lazy mode in me) | 09:18 |
faenil | tbr, no need? if the image is supposed to be installed on Jolla, everyone already has rights to get those binaries | 09:18 |
faenil | so I don't see what we're talking about :p | 09:19 |
faenil | tbr, we can easily work that around by writing a guide to build your own image instead of providing ready-to-flash images, and there we go ;) cc Aard | 09:19 |
faenil | every guy will use his credentials, and no problems anywhere ;) | 09:20 |
tbr | faenil: many roads lead to rome. ;-) | 09:20 |
faenil | :) | 09:20 |
locusf | btw I will be offline for a while since I'm moving to a new apartment, please DM in twitter if any issues rise | 09:22 |
locusf | I have completely forgotten to migrate my ADSL to the new place so it might take a while for me to get back online :/ | 09:23 |
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faenil | locusf, oww :( | 09:27 |
locusf | gotta go, bbl | 09:30 |
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stephg | ningles! | 09:43 |
stephg | (I'm a bit slow today) | 09:43 |
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Aard | faenil: in the world of big chip manufacturers the world is not as simple as "this guy bought a phone with our chip and therefore can use our drivers" | 12:02 |
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faenil | Aard, so you mean I can't even have people build the image themselves? | 12:24 |
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coderus | its sad Sailfish doesnt show all installed applications with versions and doesnt check foor updates. it breaks linux mind... | 14:53 |
coderus | opops wrong cchannel, sorry | 14:53 |
locusf | its ok :) | 14:54 |
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locusf | http://pastie.org/9235688 <- lipstick crash reason | 16:46 |
faenil | I wonder if sletta has any idea of why that happens | 16:46 |
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locusf | invoker: Invoking execution: '/bin/env' | 16:50 |
locusf | so invoker is always run when executing an app, wether its glacier gallery or something else | 16:50 |
locusf | that stack corruption also worries me | 16:51 |
sletta | isj… How’d that happen? | 16:52 |
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sletta | locusf: stack corruption looks like you are missing debug symbols | 16:53 |
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locusf | sletta: yes this is by running lipstick via command line in gdb | 16:54 |
faenil | nemo-lipstick I guess, btw | 16:55 |
locusf | I probably need a whole load of debug symbols | 16:55 |
faenil | glacier-home, whatever | 16:55 |
locusf | yes nemo-lipstick | 16:55 |
faenil | and that crash is when you start an app? | 16:55 |
locusf | yes | 16:55 |
locusf | getting a more comprehensive debug in a moment | 17:04 |
locusf | http://pastie.org/9235724 | 17:07 |
locusf | I don't have glibc debuginfo package available | 17:07 |
locusf | http://pastie.org/9235727 <- full backtrace | 17:08 |
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faenil | I'm sure sletta knows why without even looking at the code :D | 17:11 |
sletta | thanks, but I’m afraid not :) | 17:12 |
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sletta | locusf: in updatePaintNode, we should either have visible == false or QtWayland::Surface::m_frontBuffer should be non-null | 17:14 |
faenil | stephg, ok :( | 17:15 |
stephg | hehe | 17:15 |
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stephg | only joking, if you feel some slippery fish-slapping action is required, go nuts ;) | 17:15 |
faenil | no, they're gone :( | 17:15 |
sletta | locusf: if visible == true we go on to ask for the texture which according to that stacktrace is 0 | 17:15 |
faenil | so basically there's something here which is visible but doesn't have any visual content assigned to it | 17:16 |
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sletta | is there a buffer destroy between the commit and the time the frame is rendered by any chance? | 17:18 |
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sletta | Suppose we get a valid buffer at the time of commit | 17:18 |
faenil | I don't think we're touching anything at that level (I haven't seen locusf code though) | 17:18 |
sletta | because the buffer is valid we set visible == true | 17:19 |
faenil | I'm going back to my studies :D locusf don't waste your chance to fix it :D | 17:19 |
sletta | Then the buffer is destroyed so once we advance the buffer queue we get m_frontBuffer = 0 | 17:19 |
sletta | but we didn’t fix the visible state.. | 17:19 |
sletta | I’m just guessing by looking at the code now, but that seems like it could cause your problem | 17:20 |
sletta | Add a call to m_surface->handle()->isFrontBufferReleased() in QWaylandSurfaceItem::updateTexture before the call to m_surface->textureId() | 17:21 |
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locusf | its true we are not touching these parts | 17:21 |
sletta | the bug might still be there :) | 17:21 |
locusf | but its repeatable on 2 separate homescreens | 17:22 |
sletta | what do you mean? | 17:22 |
locusf | I have lipstick-colorful-home-qt5 and lipstick-glacier-home-qt5 | 17:22 |
locusf | on both lipstick crashes when launching an application, leading to that backtrace | 17:23 |
faenil | (and this didn't happen until a few months ago, did it?) | 17:23 |
stephg | yup | 17:23 |
locusf | yep, it didn't happen in february afaik | 17:23 |
stephg | has been a few months | 17:23 |
sletta | this logic was introduced with update 4 | 17:23 |
faenil | makes sense then | 17:24 |
sletta | sorry, but I need to sign off. Ping me again tomorrow will you? | 17:24 |
faenil | sure we will :D | 17:24 |
locusf | sletta: I probably can't since I have a house moving stuff to do and pack my computer etc | 17:25 |
faenil | thanks for the hints ;) | 17:25 |
sletta | and try to add aborting based on isFrontBufferReleased() | 17:25 |
sletta | If this is the problem, I suspect it will fix it | 17:25 |
faenil | where is that updatetexture, in lipstick? | 17:25 |
faenil | or is that qt code | 17:25 |
locusf | nope, its in qtwayland | 17:25 |
sletta | in qtwayland’s compositor code | 17:25 |
faenil | ah ok | 17:26 |
faenil | I wonder why it's not showing on jolla then :D | 17:26 |
faenil | anyway, thanks :) | 17:26 |
sletta | locusf: ok, then I guess well have to chat later. Good luck with the move :) | 17:26 |
locusf | sletta: thanks :) | 17:26 |
locusf | march 17, makes sense | 17:27 |
sletta | faenil: threading and timing and a totally different code path on top can make a lot of difference.. | 17:27 |
sletta | I might also be wrong :) | 17:27 |
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locusf | nice, I still have qtwayland sources on my comp | 17:28 |
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locusf | git42 is the installed version, from apr 111 | 17:31 |
locusf | *11 | 17:31 |
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locusf | ok got it compiling now, fingers crossed :) | 17:44 |
stephg | gluck! | 17:44 |
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locusf | ShaderEffect: source or provider missing when binding textures | 17:56 |
locusf | and black screen | 17:59 |
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locusf | all born windows are black, I shall correct | 18:07 |
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locusf | hmm clearly this is all way beyond my understanding, but sletta had a good idea to test :p | 18:11 |
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