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faenilmorning o/08:12
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iekkuahoy08:15
locusfmorning08:15
dr_gogeta86hi guys08:16
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faenilAard, would it be possible to have a skeleton of a pattern for jolla? just to avoid having to reverse it by ourselves08:30
faenilwe would use it as a base for nemo08:30
faenilHW adaptation pattern basically is what we need08:30
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locusfyeah we can go from there08:36
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sledgesmould roarning!08:45
sledgesfaenil: you will have it very soon, im working on it, and i hope you'll be able to benefit08:45
Aardfaenil: you should be able to query the patterns from the repos08:46
Aardwhat exactly are you trying?08:46
faenilAard, right...that's how the update system works :/08:46
faenilAard, well, just making a pattern to build Nemo images for the Jolla08:46
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Aardfaenil: this is a bit tricky, with the hw-adaptation behind auth08:47
locusfoh :/08:49
faenilmmm :/08:49
locusfwe could try to use a Jolla device as a proxy in the .ks, with a webserver running on it and serving cached packages08:50
locusfthough thats non-repeatable08:51
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Aardlocusf: you can extract credentials from the device, but they're personalized -- so I'd not share those08:53
dr_gogeta86how to ?08:53
locusfAard: I wasn't exactly meaning that, I meant that zypper can be made to cache packages to the device08:54
locusfzypper mr -k -all08:55
locusfand then just copy them over a webserver or serve them with the correct dir structure on Jolla08:56
Aardlocusf: that's something I'd strongly advise you not to do. it'd require legal checks from our side, and we might be forced by 3rd parties owning the rights on hw adaptation bits to come after you08:57
Aardso if you do that make sure it's not tracable to anyone08:58
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locusfAard: as I suspected, won't do so then08:58
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faenilAard, can you remind me what's the issue with hw adapt being downloadable?09:04
faenilas in, why was it closed in the first place09:13
faenilI only remember maps/dalvik being an issue09:13
tbrfaenil: 3rd party IPR09:16
faenil:/09:16
tbra lot of that stuff is probably "owned" by other companies, like Qualcomm09:16
tbrand they don't bother to cater to the open source hippy crowd09:17
tbrI'd suggest to investigate if sufficiently similar or identical binaries can be obtained legally through alternative channels09:18
tbrin case of qualcomm that would probably mean codeaurora09:18
faenilAard, how do I get the patterns? (lazy mode in me)09:18
faeniltbr, no need? if the image is supposed to be installed on Jolla, everyone already has rights to get those binaries09:18
faenilso I don't see what we're talking about :p09:19
faeniltbr, we can easily work that around by writing a guide to build your own image instead of providing ready-to-flash images, and there we go ;) cc Aard09:19
faenilevery guy will use his credentials, and no problems anywhere ;)09:20
tbrfaenil: many roads lead to rome. ;-)09:20
faenil:)09:20
locusfbtw I will be offline for a while since I'm moving to a new apartment, please DM in twitter if any issues rise09:22
locusfI have completely forgotten to migrate my ADSL to the new place so it might take a while for me to get back online :/09:23
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faenillocusf, oww :(09:27
locusfgotta go, bbl09:30
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stephgningles!09:43
stephg(I'm a bit slow today)09:43
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Aardfaenil: in the world of big chip manufacturers the world is not as simple as "this guy bought a phone with our chip and therefore can use our drivers"12:02
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faenilAard, so you mean I can't even have people build the image themselves?12:24
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coderusits sad Sailfish doesnt show all installed applications with versions and doesnt check foor updates. it breaks linux mind...14:53
coderusopops wrong cchannel, sorry14:53
locusfits ok :)14:54
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locusfhttp://pastie.org/9235688 <- lipstick crash reason16:46
faenilI wonder if sletta has any idea of why that happens16:46
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locusfinvoker: Invoking execution: '/bin/env'16:50
locusfso invoker is always run when executing an app, wether its glacier gallery or something else16:50
locusfthat stack corruption also worries me16:51
slettaisj… How’d that happen?16:52
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slettalocusf: stack corruption looks like you are missing debug symbols16:53
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locusfsletta: yes this is by running lipstick via command line in gdb16:54
faenilnemo-lipstick I guess, btw16:55
locusfI probably need a whole load of debug symbols16:55
faenilglacier-home, whatever16:55
locusfyes nemo-lipstick16:55
faeniland that crash is when you start an app?16:55
locusfyes16:55
locusfgetting a more comprehensive debug in a moment17:04
locusfhttp://pastie.org/923572417:07
locusfI don't have glibc debuginfo package available17:07
locusfhttp://pastie.org/9235727 <- full backtrace17:08
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faenilI'm sure sletta knows why without even looking at the code :D17:11
slettathanks, but I’m afraid not :)17:12
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slettalocusf: in updatePaintNode, we should either have visible == false or QtWayland::Surface::m_frontBuffer should be non-null17:14
faenilstephg, ok :(17:15
stephghehe17:15
* faenil throws the content of the bucket back into the lake :(17:15
stephgonly joking, if you feel some slippery fish-slapping action is required, go nuts ;)17:15
faenilno, they're gone :(17:15
slettalocusf: if visible == true we go on to ask for the texture which according to that stacktrace is 017:15
faenilso basically there's something here which is visible but doesn't have any visual content assigned to it17:16
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slettais there a buffer destroy between the commit and the time the frame is rendered by any chance?17:18
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slettaSuppose we get a valid buffer at the time of commit17:18
faenilI don't think we're touching anything at that level (I haven't seen locusf code though)17:18
slettabecause the buffer is valid we set visible == true17:19
faenilI'm going back to my studies :D locusf don't waste your chance to fix it :D17:19
slettaThen the buffer is destroyed so once we advance the buffer queue we get m_frontBuffer = 017:19
slettabut we didn’t fix the visible state..17:19
slettaI’m just guessing by looking at the code now, but that seems like it could cause your problem17:20
slettaAdd a call to m_surface->handle()->isFrontBufferReleased() in QWaylandSurfaceItem::updateTexture before the call to m_surface->textureId()17:21
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locusfits true we are not touching these parts17:21
slettathe bug might still be there :)17:21
locusfbut its repeatable on 2 separate homescreens17:22
slettawhat do you mean?17:22
locusfI have lipstick-colorful-home-qt5 and lipstick-glacier-home-qt517:22
locusfon both lipstick crashes when launching an application, leading to that backtrace17:23
faenil(and this didn't happen until a few months ago, did it?)17:23
stephgyup17:23
locusfyep, it didn't happen in february afaik17:23
stephghas been a few months17:23
slettathis logic was introduced with update 417:23
faenilmakes sense then17:24
slettasorry, but I need to sign off. Ping me again tomorrow will you?17:24
faenilsure we will :D17:24
locusfsletta: I probably can't since I have a house moving stuff to do and pack my computer etc17:25
faenilthanks for the hints ;)17:25
slettaand try to add aborting based on isFrontBufferReleased()17:25
slettaIf this is the problem, I suspect it will fix it17:25
faenilwhere is that updatetexture, in lipstick?17:25
faenilor is that qt code17:25
locusfnope, its in qtwayland17:25
slettain qtwayland’s compositor code17:25
faenilah ok17:26
faenilI wonder why it's not showing on jolla then :D17:26
faenilanyway, thanks :)17:26
slettalocusf: ok, then I guess well have to chat later. Good luck with the move :)17:26
locusfsletta: thanks :)17:26
locusfmarch 17, makes sense17:27
slettafaenil: threading and timing and a totally different code path on top can make a lot of difference..17:27
slettaI might also be wrong :)17:27
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locusfnice, I still have qtwayland sources on my comp17:28
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locusfgit42 is the installed version, from apr 11117:31
locusf*1117:31
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locusfok got it compiling now, fingers crossed :)17:44
stephggluck!17:44
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locusfShaderEffect: source or provider missing when binding textures17:56
locusfand black screen17:59
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locusfall born windows are black, I shall correct18:07
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locusfhmm clearly this is all way beyond my understanding, but sletta had a good idea to test :p18:11
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