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stephgmorning07:40
Stskeepsmorn stephg07:41
locusfmorning all07:41
stephghey hey07:43
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sledgesnorning!08:56
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SK_worksledges: moarning09:06
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coderushello10:41
coderuswhere is seasidechche sources?10:41
SK_workcoderus: ha :D10:42
SK_workwait a sec10:42
SK_workcoderus: iirc it's in mer, but I cannot find it10:43
SK_workcoderus: https://github.com/nemomobile/libcontacts/tree/master/src ?10:44
coderushttps://github.com/nemomobile/libcontacts/blob/master/src/seasidecache.cpp10:44
coderusaha10:44
coderusthanks10:44
SK_work:D10:45
SK_workcoderus: out of curiosity, what are you working on ?10:45
SK_workcontacts integration ?10:45
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coderusSK_work: i just found a bug in contacts plugin: https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugin-contacts/issues/10310:53
coderusdisplayLabel doesnt follow system settings and can't be changed manually since  displayOrder is readonly now10:53
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alinsledges: hi... I have seen some people working on n5 port already nemo.... situ is one of them... was the migration guide published and I missed it?11:42
sledgeshi alin11:42
Stskeepssome people are just clever enough to make it work without documentation11:42
sledgesit wasn't published11:42
Stskeeps:P11:42
sledgesthey are reverse engineering it11:42
sledgeswho reads documentation? :))11:42
MSameerRTFB FTW :)11:51
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SK_workcoderus: nice11:57
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MSameerwhere is faenil when one needs him :p14:20
Stskeepshaving a life, i hope14:20
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MSameerSage-: Stskeeps can you please act on this PR https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/gst-plugins-good/pull/3 ?14:40
Stskeepshmm i think that is sage's area, i don't have rights14:42
Stskeepshe's on vacation today14:42
MSameeri don't have rights either14:42
MSameerbut he Ok'd it14:43
Stskeepsyes14:43
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mordwho should i bother about ohmd in nemo?18:37
mordwell, nemo/mer18:37
Stskeepswellll18:38
Stskeepsin what context perhaps18:38
Stskeepslong term we'd ideally be rid of it18:38
mordStskeeps: oh? mainly thinking about the namespace issues currently present18:39
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Stskeepsyeah, replace with something like intel's murphy18:39
mordokay, that's interesting18:39
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mordit's currently mostly used for audio policy in mer/nemo, right?18:40
mordand as such, a bit overkill18:40
Stskeepsnod18:40
Stskeepswell, audio policy is no laughing matter18:40
mordwe now have a mostly working ohmd setup after doing some namespace changes but it seems far from being a perfect solution18:41
Stskeepsdefine namespace changes18:41
mordcom.nokia.policy and org.maemo.resource.* -> org.freenode.ohm.*18:42
morddbus18:42
Stskeepsfreedesktop, you mean18:42
mordfreedesktop, yes18:42
mordof course18:42
mordso switching from the three destinations and one interface per destination to one destination providing three interfaces18:43
Stskeepsok18:44
mordbut it's pretty heavy machinery just for handling audio policy18:44
Stskeepsaudio policy is mindnumbing :)18:44
Stskeepswell, feel free to bring up the topic on mer mailing list perhaps18:44
mordack18:44
* mord is googling for info about murphy18:46
mordlooks promising, thanks for the hint18:50
mordi'll jot something down for the mailing list as well though, we do want to keep in synch18:51
Stskeepsnod18:52
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mordStskeeps: any plans on switching to kdbus?18:56
mordthis is the wrong chan though, should ask this on #mer i guess18:56
Stskeepsno direct plans, it's one of those things you can't go fast in if you want to run on android devices18:57
mordon android devices where you can't rebuild the kernel you mean?18:57
Stskeepsrather that kdbus likely wouldn't work or be on ancient version of it18:57
mordack18:57
mordyeah i can see how that would be a prob when setting up something based on {pivot,switch}_root on what is essentially an immutable base system18:59
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mordbut then again you can't be sure you can actually get statefs and other such bits to work properly on the proprietary kernels either19:00
Stskeepsit's a miracle anything works on mobile devices.19:01
mord:)19:01
mordi do applaud your success so far though, don't get me wrong19:01
Stskeepsfuse has actually not been an issue so far, i'm not sure why19:02
mordodd, we had some miraculous healing happen once we got user_allow_other work properly with fuse19:03
mordbut there are differences to the setups, of course19:04
mordcgroups have been another seriously painful can of worms19:04
Stskeepsthere are moment when i just want to break down and just rebase on top of android19:05
Stskeepsthen i go have a beer and i'm sane again19:05
mord:)19:05
mordplease hold that after-the-pint thought19:05
mordi mean, describe your full fs in android_filesystem_config.h?19:06
mordor whateverthehell it was again19:06
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Stskeepsmord: well, permissions..19:14
mordno reason to have perms/ownership/set{uid,gid} dictated by that one file though19:15
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mordStskeeps: you can make the sparse image creation tools not drop the original perms/ownerhip quite easily; i have to make sure but i'm pretty sure we can provide the patches if you want19:17
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mordthe runtime doesn't seem to mangle them if they're properly set in the image19:18
mordunless explicitly instructed to19:18
mordthe root:root default is in fact set by make_ext4fs, not the runtime19:20
mordsame goes for perms19:20
mordalthough make_ext4fs does accept a file context map for perms/ownership but lessay you have your stuff on a separate partition, you don't want it to interfere at all19:21
Stskeepsnod19:24
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dr_gogeta86hi guys21:01
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sledgeshya!21:47
sledgeswhoops gone again ;/21:47
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stephgis very nearly nap time22:14
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sledgesKabouik: you can consult meegobit on #sailfishos (this is their case description: http://merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos/%23sailfishos.2014-04-23.log.html#t2014-04-23T15:33:02 )23:40

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