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| ryukafalz | So from someone who doesn't yet have a compatible device (hopefully soon!) is Nemo currently usable as a daily driver? | 01:13 |
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| stephg | ahoy! | 06:52 |
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| locusf | morning | 07:04 |
| SK_work | morning locusf | 07:05 |
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| sledges | FRYDAY! | 10:53 |
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| SK_work | \o/ | 11:37 |
| SK_work | faenil: yep got work: this is an web chat I forgot to close :P | 11:37 |
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| faenil | SK_work, cool! :) what are you working on :) | 11:38 |
| SK_work | in France, at Murex | 11:38 |
| faenil | cool :) | 11:38 |
| faenil | bbl o/ | 11:39 |
| SK_work | the only thing that's sad is that I don't have much time to Nemo and Sailfish | 11:39 |
| SK_work | though I'm stilla round :) | 11:41 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.raspberrypi.org/piphone-home-made-raspberry-pi-smartphone/ - nemo target? | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:42 |
| sledges | SK_work: how did the uni project work out for nemo? | 11:46 |
| sledges | and congrats on the _work part ;) | 11:47 |
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| SK_work | sledges: rather average | 11:50 |
| SK_work | (for uni project) | 11:50 |
| sledges | :/ | 11:50 |
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| SK_work | doesn't matter | 11:50 |
| SK_work | now _work :) | 11:50 |
| sledges | :) now yes | 11:50 |
| SK_work | :) | 11:50 |
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| ryukafalz | Stskeeps: Now imagine trying to use that at an airport ;) | 13:05 |
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| ZogG_laptop | faenil: sup | 13:35 |
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| faenil | ZogG_laptop, o/ playing Path of Exile :D | 13:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | ok | 13:38 |
| ZogG_laptop | would not disturb | 13:38 |
| ZogG_laptop | :) | 13:38 |
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| faenil | np :p | 13:41 |
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| SK_work | faenil: lol | 13:43 |
| SK_work | faenil: on linux or win ? | 13:43 |
| sledges | new skin: https://twitter.com/NemoMobile | 13:44 |
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| ZogG_laptop | sledges: sup | 13:50 |
| ZogG_laptop | background? | 13:50 |
| faenil | SK_work, linux, on desktop :P | 13:51 |
| faenil | sorry, win* on desktop | 13:51 |
| sledges | yes, but darn twitter did not inform me when they changed it from 520x260 to 590x295, adjusting now.. | 13:51 |
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| SK_work | sledges: love it :) | 13:53 |
| SK_work | the new Twitter profile looks good | 13:53 |
| sledges | wait for it ;P | 13:53 |
| SK_work | faenil: isn't path of exile supporting linux ? | 13:53 |
| faenil | SK_work, nope, you can play with wine though | 13:54 |
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| sledges | unbelievable: twitter takes 590x295 file, resizes to 520x260, and then stretches back to 590x295 on the page....... outrageous | 13:58 |
| SK_work | sledges: ... | 13:58 |
| sledges | and this is on old profiles. new face profiles with big header pictures it 'works' even worse, when you try to upload hi-res photo, it's quality degrades completely | 13:59 |
| sledges | :) | 13:59 |
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| ZogG_laptop | hmm | 14:02 |
| ZogG_laptop | sledges: it looks like old profiel | 14:02 |
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| ZogG_laptop | or am i missing something? | 14:03 |
| sledges | it is old profile | 14:03 |
| ZogG_laptop | where i ca nsee new? | 14:03 |
| sledges | I had quality drop with https://twitter.com/JollaLt | 14:03 |
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| ZogG_laptop | i have new | 14:03 |
| ZogG_laptop | yaya | 14:03 |
| sledges | im against new profiles | 14:03 |
| sledges | due to this jpg glitch | 14:03 |
| sledges | and creating new account (like with jollalt case) i had no choice to go to old one :) | 14:04 |
| ZogG_laptop | lt stands for latvia? | 14:05 |
| sledges | Lithuania | 14:05 |
| ZogG_laptop | i was there once :P | 14:06 |
| sledges | we were the first to claim "T" against-alphabet than our brothers :D | 14:06 |
| ZogG_laptop | no idea why would we need though all the accounts to everycountry when there is official one and you have people from community who you can follow :P | 14:07 |
| sledges | native language | 14:09 |
| sledges | i got many questions which people feel more comfortable to ask someone of their own | 14:10 |
| ZogG_laptop | meh | 14:10 |
| ZogG_laptop | if you want international company phone you need to know a little bit english | 14:10 |
| ZogG_laptop | to ask common is good on one side but is not on other | 14:11 |
| sledges | is also easier to enter the market | 14:11 |
| ZogG_laptop | to enter market you need official one? | 14:12 |
| sledges | - | 14:12 |
| sledges | ? | 14:12 |
| sledges | every fan who wants to spread word about jolla created community pages in their countries | 14:13 |
| ZogG_laptop | i know | 14:13 |
| sledges | community-driven entering the market | 14:13 |
| ZogG_laptop | the problem that most of those are links to blogs or retweets | 14:13 |
| ZogG_laptop | i like news blogs/twitters/etc | 14:13 |
| ZogG_laptop | but i like them being original and not spamming | 14:14 |
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| ZogG_laptop | hahaha | 14:14 |
| ZogG_laptop | there is application for android to warm hands | 14:14 |
| ZogG_laptop | it warms phone | 14:14 |
| w00t | isn't that built-in? :p | 14:15 |
| sledges | useful for fishermen | 14:15 |
| ZogG_laptop | someone on tv is trying to boil water | 14:15 |
| virtuald | but there's no capacitive fisher gloves (that i know of) | 14:15 |
| ZogG_laptop | and than calls himself to "vibrate" milk for coffee | 14:15 |
| ZogG_laptop | virtuald: fisher gloves have few fingers out | 14:16 |
| ZogG_laptop | i mean not in glove | 14:16 |
| virtuald | oh.. depends on where you fish :) | 14:16 |
| sledges | virtuald: if you have warming phone, why do you need gloves? | 14:16 |
| ZogG_laptop | virtuald: used for winter fishing those :) | 14:16 |
| virtuald | :) | 14:16 |
| ZogG_laptop | you need them so you can feel if you work with things | 14:16 |
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| ZogG_laptop | w00t: i would not laugh as there were few reports about over warming (even to reboot) jollas :P | 14:17 |
| virtuald | sledges: guess i wouldn't unless it was raining | 14:17 |
| sledges | virtuald: yep, you wouldn't want to warm hands with phone in the rain :) | 14:18 |
| ZogG_laptop | on rain the problem would be taing phone out | 14:18 |
| w00t | ZogG_laptop: should be fixed in the next update (unless it really overheats) | 14:18 |
| sledges | ZogG_laptop: i can barely touch jolla after 2 hours of driving with google maps | 14:18 |
| sledges | no reboots though | 14:18 |
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| ZogG_laptop | w00t: i had no those problems but i use jolla for candy crush only :P | 14:19 |
| sledges | jolla - ground breaking and candy crushing | 14:19 |
| w00t | ZogG_laptop: the thermal sensor occasionally sent out a screwy reading, now dsme requires consistently hot readings before it'll switch off instead of just one | 14:19 |
| sledges | can it do nuts- | 14:19 |
| sledges | ? | 14:19 |
| ZogG_laptop | as far as i got it - it's only android apps cozing it | 14:19 |
| ZogG_laptop | w00t: so is the "reboot/shutdown" fix or overwarming fix? | 14:20 |
| ZogG_laptop | my laptop has overwarming problems | 14:20 |
| ZogG_laptop | it's nice at winter when i compile stuff i just put it on myself | 14:20 |
| ZogG_laptop | source based linux FTW | 14:20 |
| w00t | ZogG_laptop: what I'm trying to say is.. sometimes it (erroneously) thought it was overheating and shut down as a protection.. it won't do that anymore - it'll shut down if it genuinely heats up | 14:21 |
| w00t | it'll still* | 14:21 |
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| ZogG_laptop | w00t: hope next time you would listen to people about HW specs requests :P | 14:23 |
| w00t | huh? | 14:24 |
| ZogG_laptop | specs are low | 14:25 |
| w00t | I don't see how that has anything to do with what we were just talking about | 14:26 |
| sledges | w00t: happy birthday :D | 14:26 |
| ZogG_laptop | i can see only 2 reasons for overheating | 14:26 |
| ZogG_laptop | w00t: is it your birthday? happy bday than :P | 14:27 |
| w00t | sunday | 14:27 |
| sledges | good timing ;) | 14:27 |
| ZogG_laptop | good timing for him to be born? :P | 14:28 |
| sledges | to say HB | 14:28 |
| ZogG_laptop | to stop me talking? :P | 14:28 |
| w00t | sledges: we should rather say "happy friday" | 14:31 |
| w00t | :-) | 14:31 |
| sledges | whooops don't say the song is coming :)) | 14:31 |
| w00t | :P | 14:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | ok. i'll leave you to your silent ;/ | 14:32 |
| w00t | I already told you the reason for the case I'm talking about: the sensor sometimes returned bad data, which wasn't ignored (it should have been, and now is) | 14:33 |
| ZogG_laptop | happy friday | 14:33 |
| sledges | hf :) | 14:33 |
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| locusf | stephg: if you got time there is a new glacier homescreen for testing :) | 15:07 |
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| stephg | hey locusf | 15:35 |
| stephg | just got home | 15:35 |
| stephg | do you want n9 or n4 :) | 15:35 |
| stephg | or both! | 15:35 |
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| locusf | both can do :) | 15:37 |
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| * stephg has chocolate | 17:38 | |
| stephg | locusf the glacier package and deps, have you got a repo link for me? | 17:45 |
| stephg | (a new one) | 17:45 |
| locusf | oh you need a new one, hmm | 17:46 |
| stephg | or I can build (I know precisely nothing about OBS) | 17:46 |
| locusf | did you use nemo:devel:ux last time? | 17:47 |
| stephg | no just followed your instructions as you had 3 packages for download | 17:47 |
| locusf | oh yeah | 17:47 |
| stephg | from your blog | 17:47 |
| locusf | lemme build new ones | 17:47 |
| stephg | ah ok :) | 17:48 |
| stephg | no rush, will be here all night with chocolate and the huge time sink that is 2048 | 17:48 |
| stephg | :) | 17:48 |
| locusf | ah you're playing that too :) | 17:50 |
| locusf | ok done reuploading the packages, the links are the same | 17:51 |
| stephg | I should be doing things with puppet but 2048 is... just... there... | 17:51 |
| locusf | heheh :) | 17:52 |
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| locusf | so did you redownload em ? | 17:58 |
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| sledges | locusf: not from nemo: obs ? | 18:04 |
| stephg | downloading now | 18:06 |
| stephg | ... | 18:06 |
| stephg | versions not incremented | 18:06 |
| locusf | yeah | 18:07 |
| stephg | oh yeah, 17 minutes ago modified | 18:07 |
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| stephg | it's alive on my n4 | 18:11 |
| stephg | just ref/dup'ing my n9 first | 18:12 |
| locusf | try the outside swipes, like with apps but in your homescreen to see the screen lock activate | 18:12 |
| stephg | works :) | 18:13 |
| stephg | off the top of their heads, anyone got a dbus command to connect to an existing wireless connection? my settings app segfaults | 18:13 |
| locusf | hum | 18:13 |
| locusf | I don't know any | 18:14 |
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| stephg | locusf: so launching apps on the n4 is 'interesting' | 18:15 |
| locusf | stephg: ? | 18:15 |
| stephg | it splits the screen in half, glacier homescreeny things on the left, and whatever you launch on the right | 18:15 |
| locusf | ah | 18:15 |
| locusf | known issue, happens on my Jolla too | 18:15 |
| stephg | both behave correctly, i.e. swipe on the left and you can change between app launcher/multitask/feed | 18:16 |
| stephg | and whatever gestures the right supports | 18:16 |
| stephg | oh I made it go full screen again | 18:17 |
| stephg | now is proper | 18:17 |
| locusf | great :) | 18:17 |
| stephg | oops now is broke again :) | 18:18 |
| stephg | this time right and left swapped :) | 18:18 |
| stephg | so when in an app | 18:19 |
| stephg | swiping from the left takes you to multitasking | 18:19 |
| stephg | which I guess is desired behaviour, not the lockscreen? | 18:19 |
| locusf | yes | 18:19 |
| stephg | only other thing I notice that might be odd is that my battery status is at the bottom not the top | 18:20 |
| stephg | it used to be at the top? | 18:20 |
| stephg | %age I mean | 18:20 |
| locusf | stephg: its meant to be at the bottom by the specs | 18:20 |
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| stephg | ah ok | 18:24 |
| locusf | also there is a red area on the top of the screen when you drag your icons in the launcher for remove/uninstall | 18:27 |
| locusf | not working yet of course | 18:27 |
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| locusf | those are basically all the new changes | 18:28 |
| stephg | cool | 18:32 |
| stephg | looks good | 18:32 |
| stephg | is coming along nicely! | 18:32 |
| locusf | thx :) | 18:32 |
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| sledges | yay! | 18:38 |
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| situ | On my device lipstick is failing to start. Any suggestions how to debug this problem ? | 19:04 |
| stephg | which device? | 19:05 |
| situ | stephg: Nexus 5. I have been doing hw adaptation for it. | 19:05 |
| stephg | cool | 19:05 |
| stephg | well trying to run by hand may help but the environment variables are a pain to get right | 19:05 |
| situ | I have got minimer working. But lipstick.service doesn't start. | 19:05 |
| situ | stephg: Right | 19:05 |
| situ | stephg: Where is the dbus socket for user created ? | 19:06 |
| situ | This is my lipstick.socket file http://pastie.org/9112870 | 19:07 |
| situ | I don't see anything under /run/user | 19:07 |
| stephg | hm | 19:08 |
| stephg | that should be right | 19:08 |
| situ | stephg: http://pastie.org/9112678 | 19:08 |
| stephg | on the n4 jolla I have /run/user/100000/dbus/user_bus_socket | 19:09 |
| situ | hmm | 19:09 |
| situ | stephg: Is there a debug mode in lipstick which may print some logs which I can read through journalctl ? | 19:09 |
| stephg | that pastie has it running as root not nemo? | 19:09 |
| situ | Right | 19:10 |
| faenil | situ, check out lipstick src | 19:15 |
| faenil | I think there's an env var iirc | 19:15 |
| situ | this is my script | 19:15 |
| situ | I can see /run/user/100000/dbus/user_bus_socket now | 19:16 |
| situ | strace for lipstick http://pastie.org/9112893 | 19:16 |
| faenil | do you have the config files in /env/var/compositor and nemo/ ? | 19:18 |
| situ | Sorry forgot to put link to script earlier. script is -> http://pastie.org/9112890 | 19:18 |
| faenil | sorry | 19:18 |
| faenil | I'm talking bs | 19:18 |
| faenil | it's /var/lib/environment :D | 19:18 |
| situ | faenil: Yes they are there, but right now I am starting lipstick with above script | 19:19 |
| situ | faenil: So I manully start lipstick by executing that script | 19:20 |
| faenil | okay | 19:20 |
| faenil | if you really like doing it that way | 19:20 |
| faenil | you should source all vars in the env directory | 19:20 |
| faenil | and then start lipstick | 19:20 |
| faenil | not only those | 19:20 |
| faenil | just to be sure you're not missing important stuff | 19:21 |
| faenil | have you tried QT_QPA_PLATFORM=eglfs? | 19:21 |
| situ | Nope, I have confirmed hwcomposer works by running minimer. | 19:21 |
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| faenil | ok | 19:23 |
| faenil | last time I hacked on that stuff QT_QPA__PLATFORM was either eglfs or wayland, iirc | 19:23 |
| situ | hmm | 19:25 |
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| giucam | no wayland for lipstick | 19:26 |
| sledges | hwc should do | 19:26 |
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| giucam | lipstck provides wayland, it usually doesn't run on it | 19:27 |
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| faenil | giucam, sure, I was talking generally | 19:41 |
| faenil | in fact I told him to try eglfs :) | 19:42 |
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| situ | faenil: Ok, instead of starting manually I am just stracing lipstick started by systemd with strace | 19:47 |
| situ | strace -p $(pidof /usr/bin/lipstick) | 19:47 |
| faenil | better :) | 19:47 |
| situ | faenil: Crashing at same point | 19:48 |
| situ | http://pastie.org/9112959 | 19:48 |
| situ | I don't know what it's waiting for | 19:48 |
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| faenil | ServiceManager is probably the android stuff | 19:53 |
| faenil | anyway, watching movie, cya guys o/ | 19:53 |
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| sledges | probabl libhybris kicking in | 19:58 |
| sledges | situ: launch a nemo app (standalone) | 19:59 |
| sledges | with -platform waylang_egl iirc | 19:59 |
| sledges | d | 19:59 |
| situ | sledges: I don't have libqservice in my rpms. Should I compile and put it on my device ? | 19:59 |
| situ | sledges: Can you tell me the exact command ? nemo-password-manager -platform wayland doesn't work | 20:03 |
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| sledges | situ: just put nemo-password-manager -platform blabla to see all options | 20:22 |
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| stephg | right is bed time | 21:35 |
| stephg | good night folks | 21:35 |
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