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| locusf | morning | 07:16 |
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| Stskeeps | morn locusf | 07:16 |
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| jussi | morning Stskeeps and locusf | 07:18 |
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| stephg | ning! | 07:36 |
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| jussi | o/ stephg | 07:51 |
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| coderus | hello | 07:57 |
| coderus | can you give me link to mer obs qt5? | 07:57 |
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| locusf | coderus: do you mean this ? https://build.merproject.org/project/show?project=mer%3Aqt%3Adevel | 08:05 |
| coderus | i dont know yet, thanks | 08:08 |
| coderus | my friend want to add this patch to build: https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,81539 | 08:08 |
| locusf | https://build.merproject.org/package/show?package=qtmultimedia&project=mer-core%3Adevel <- this is probably the one | 08:11 |
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| coderus | thanks :) | 08:20 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | hi guys | 11:20 |
| dr_gogeta86 | huawei sucks | 11:20 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i'll use n9 as backup again | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | which device, ooi? | 11:21 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | a prerrty piece of ...s..t | 12:14 |
| dr_gogeta86 | motherboard burned | 12:14 |
| jussi | huwei is pretty? o.O | 12:29 |
| netzvieh | dr_gogeta86: it's the NSA's fault! they did that when spying on huawei :D | 12:31 |
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| piggz | how is the 3.4 kernel going for n9/50? | 13:04 |
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| Hurrian | anyone know is releases.nemomobile.org is up? trying to set up a SDK, mer-core repo update just bombs. | 13:15 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | wich nds ... qualcomm cpu fault | 13:19 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | Stskeeps: are u here ? | 13:25 |
| Stskeeps | sortof | 13:25 |
| dr_gogeta86 | any way to fix vibrator in jolla phone | 13:25 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i need to kick it a bit | 13:26 |
| dr_gogeta86 | before it starts | 13:26 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | for porters guys | 15:28 |
| dr_gogeta86 | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rmescandon/ubuntu-telegram-app/trunk/files/head:/app/ | 15:28 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Sfiet_Konstantin: see up link | 15:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hum ... | 15:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | interesting | 15:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | thx dr_gogeta86 | 15:29 |
| dr_gogeta86 | make an hackaton tonite | 15:29 |
| dr_gogeta86 | ? | 15:29 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i need that app | 15:29 |
| dr_gogeta86 | and i'm a bit jelaus about ubuntu phone | 15:30 |
| dr_gogeta86 | whitout mer-hybris are nothing | 15:30 |
| fk_lx | artemma: ^ telegram app for ubuntu touch | 15:30 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Sfiet_Konstantin: icoderus answered via twitter | 15:31 |
| dr_gogeta86 | sähke for sailfish os | 15:33 |
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| artemma | fk_lx: thx! | 15:50 |
| artemma | I haven't started on telegram for real yet. Doing a preparation step that for me is getting a decent logging framework into use | 15:50 |
| artemma | once I finish with the good log4qt demo example, will proceed to Telegram. That is unless somebody does it earlier :) | 15:51 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | logger for ? | 16:03 |
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| artemma | dr_gogeta86: for SailfishOS apps :) | 16:12 |
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| artemma | would work for all things nemo too. Actually for any Qt app too except that I don't bother to repackage the full example for anything else | 16:13 |
| * artemma just got tired from low configurability and lots of manual commenting-uncommenting of qDebug() and console.log() | 16:13 | |
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| drasko | HI all. I am using libconnman-qt to connect to wifi network, and I am getting connmand[344]: src/agent.c:agent_receive_message() agent 0x606938 req 0x6206b8 | 16:20 |
| drasko | process 344: type array 97 not a basic type | 16:20 |
| drasko | any ideas? | 16:20 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: qlogging ? | 16:34 |
| artemma | Sfiet_Konstantin: I was searching for a good logging framework for Qt for months if not years (not all the time though). So far log4qt looks like clearly the best and well working | 16:35 |
| artemma | only one problem: lack of good documentation and examples - that's exactly what I am doing now | 16:35 |
| artemma | Sfiet_Konstantin: https://github.com/amarchen/log4qt-demo-sailfish/tree/develop if you wonder about current progress. A lot of cool stuff I was planning is already working there, some still left and documentation + blog post too | 16:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: don't look bad | 16:37 |
| artemma | If I succeed that will be sort of HelloWorld Pro Pro :) | 16:38 |
| artemma | To be used as a starter for my future projects such as above mentioned Telegram client | 16:38 |
| artemma | there are some c/c++ Telegram sources on the web and in absence of a good test set and working debugger, logging is my only hope to understand them :) | 16:39 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: telegram client ? I'm in BTW :) | 16:41 |
| artemma | Sfiet_Konstantin: well, that's my idea. I was looking for a clearly useful, bearable by me and potentially monetizable project. Telegram was the best I could think of | 16:42 |
| artemma | certainly, it might happen to be too complex for me | 16:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: oooh | 16:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well, quite a lot of people want telegram to succed | 16:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you have icoderus too | 16:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and me | 16:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so basically, best is to join forces | 16:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (IMO) | 16:43 |
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| * artemma doesn't mind collaboration at all, but for me monetization angle is a must, while you guys seem to be more in everything-for-free camp | 16:44 | |
| artemma | and I tend to be very picky and insisitive about UI and UI standards | 16:44 |
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| artemma | anyway for now it is just an idea, not a single line of code has been written, thoughts about license are in its infancy too. It is quite possible you or coderus will make the tool first | 16:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: about monetization, I prefer donations | 16:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | not totally free, but free as beerware | 16:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | however for a multi-devs app, donations will not be easily manageable | 16:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but we can have several telegram clients as well | 16:46 |
| netzvieh | why is telegram that well with you? there encryption seems rather obscure and it is/was missing proper authentication so mitm was easily possible | 16:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | netzvieh: +1 | 16:49 |
| Eztran | netzvieh: as it usually seems to be, people aren't moving to it particularly because of security but because that's what others do. | 16:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but everybody wants it | 16:50 |
| bencoh | s/everybody/a lotta people/ | 16:51 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | bencoh: everybody, except some obscure geeks like us | 16:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :P | 16:52 |
| netzvieh | Eztran: well true .. though a lot of people think it's secure | 16:52 |
| artemma | netzvieh: "artemma: I was looking for a clearly useful, bearable by me and potentially monetizable project. Telegram was the best I could think of" | 16:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I want this https://whispersystems.org/ | 16:53 |
| netzvieh | I still have high hopes for openwhispersystems, but unless they get their iOS client finished ... | 16:53 |
| artemma | so I don't really care how secure their servers really are as people find the tool useful and want it | 16:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | netzvieh: +1 | 16:53 |
| Eztran | how secure you need things to be is relative. Users picking Telegram for security may well never have heard of an MitM attack. | 16:53 |
| netzvieh | artemma: okay | 16:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | actually, I want the openwhisper thing but integrated in sailfish | 16:54 |
| artemma | netzvieh: and then if you do want to be secure, with Telegram you actually can have it via end-to-end encrypted chats. Most of people won't care about it, but service popularity will make it possible for *you* to initiate secure chats with them. That is if you do care :) | 16:55 |
| netzvieh | Eztran: yeah well, they are promising security, so non-geeks might believe them | 16:55 |
| netzvieh | artemma: the problem with those is, that they don't authenticate properly, so telegrams servers can mitm (if i recall that correct) | 16:55 |
| Eztran | it'd be incredible if a major manufacturer promised a new IM system for their devices that was actually a decent, non-proprietary, preferably federated system. And then I wake up from that pretty daydream. | 16:56 |
| netzvieh | Sfiet_Konstantin: yep, but having an ios client will help to get people using it | 16:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | netzvieh: indeed they can mitm | 16:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | netzvieh: already android :) | 16:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Eztran: cyanogen | 16:57 |
| netzvieh | Sfiet_Konstantin: yes ik, but I don't want to have another messenger just to talk to my friends which have iOS devices ;) | 16:58 |
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| Eztran | and there's half the reason people just use popular clients over technically good ones. | 16:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | netzvieh: I want an integrated messaging system | 17:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | think telepathy | 17:00 |
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| netzvieh | Sfiet_Konstantin: that should be possible | 17:06 |
| netzvieh | or at least shouldn't be impossible ;) | 17:06 |
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| locusf | aren't Jollas messaging apis closed now? | 17:26 |
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| drasko | lpotter, any ideas about process 362: type array 97 not a basic type ? | 18:25 |
| drasko | It resembles me to this bug: https://lists.connman.net/pipermail/connman/2013-July/014886.html | 18:26 |
| drasko | is this taken into account in the libconnman-qt? | 18:26 |
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| m4g0g | SfietKonstantin: hi. Do you plan to add messaging content to friends? | 18:56 |
| locusf | SfietKonstantin: hey, have you started to dig around in the Sailfish SDK? | 18:59 |
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| SfietKonstantin | locusf: not yet, will do a bit after | 19:01 |
| SfietKonstantin | m4g0g: no, API issues | 19:01 |
| m4g0g | SfietKonstantin: it's a pity | 19:03 |
| SfietKonstantin | m4g0g: tell it to FB | 19:04 |
| SfietKonstantin | they don't want 3rd parties that provide their user experience | 19:04 |
| m4g0g | it's so capitalistically | 19:05 |
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| locusf | btw QueryDialog on the way on Glacier components | 19:28 |
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| * stephg grumbles about having 2.5k new emails since leaving the office. grumble grumble sentry grumble | 19:44 | |
| netzvieh | stephg: do you have to read them all? :D | 19:55 |
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| stephg | netzvieh, who reads emails these days | 20:30 |
| stephg | ^that's part of the problem ;) | 20:30 |
| netzvieh | stephg: well I do :D | 20:33 |
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| stephg | delete all of them | 20:34 |
| stephg | dinner, bbi10 | 20:34 |
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| netzvieh | well I don't think my boss would like that ;) | 20:42 |
| stephg | netzvieh nearly all emails I get are from computers :( | 20:46 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | hi guys | 20:55 |
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| alin | sledges: hi | 21:43 |
| alin | sledges: any news? | 21:44 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | hi sledges | 21:47 |
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| sledges | hi, soon | 21:57 |
| ejjoman | Hi, everyone. Can someone tell me, how I can compile Qt from sources for SailfishOS using mer sdk build engine? I conantly get errors. On my desktop, I can build it without problems. | 21:59 |
| stephg | ugh, an hour of my life I won't get back | 22:00 |
| sledges | ejjoman: osc build ? | 22:01 |
| sledges | stephg: why? :) | 22:01 |
| stephg | parental computer support | 22:01 |
| stephg | we've all been there | 22:02 |
| sledges | not parental control at least ;) | 22:02 |
| stephg | anyway is done now, time to start playing :) | 22:02 |
| ejjoman | sledges: don't blame me, but what means ocs? :D | 22:03 |
| sledges | mer obs cmdline tool | 22:04 |
| stephg | on an entirely related note, was good to meet you on Fri sledges | 22:04 |
| sledges | you can rebuild qt remotely: build.merproject.org | 22:04 |
| stephg | thanks for the beer, and I hope I wasn't too drunk | 22:04 |
| sledges | stephg: likewise! | 22:04 |
| ejjoman | I used http://qt-project.org/wiki/Building-Qt-5-from-Git to get the sources and try to build it locally | 22:04 |
| sledges | dunk, who? | 22:04 |
| sledges | r | 22:05 |
| sledges | :) lol | 22:05 |
| stephg | ha | 22:05 |
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| ejjoman | sledges: is there any beginner's how-to use mer obs? I never used this :/ | 22:06 |
| sledges | yes | 22:06 |
| sledges | on wiki | 22:06 |
| sledges | im afk, cant link | 22:07 |
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| ejjoman | Ah, I think I found it. Thank you. But is there no way to build it locally? | 22:08 |
| sledges | and webui is interactive a bit anyway :) | 22:08 |
| sledges | theres always a way, if theres will | 22:09 |
| sledges | ask sfiet_konstantin | 22:09 |
| sledges | hes here tomorrow | 22:09 |
| sledges | also | 22:09 |
| sledges | try using mb2 | 22:09 |
| sledges | instead of mb build | 22:10 |
| ejjoman | Okay, I will try that :) Thank you. | 22:14 |
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| sledges | np | 22:26 |
| alin | sledges: define soon | 22:27 |
| sledges | #define soon | 22:27 |
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| netzvieh | As defined by Blizzard Entertainment: "Soon" does not imply any particular date, time, decade, century, or millennia in the past, present, and certainly not the future. "Soon" shall make no contract or warranty between Blizzard Entertainment and the end user. "Soon" will arrive some day, Blizzard does guarantee that "soon" will be here before the end of time. Maybe. Do not make plans based on "soon" as Blizzard will not be liable for any misuse, use, or | 22:30 |
| netzvieh | even casual glancing at "soon." :) | 22:30 |
| netzvieh | s/Blizzard/Jolla/ ;) | 22:30 |
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| sledges | another answer is Valve Time, but jolla has been doing better than that :) | 22:32 |
| netzvieh | HL3 confirmed!!!!!!!! :D | 22:32 |
| * stephg still patiently waiting for hl3 | 22:32 | |
| * netzvieh hasn't played HL1 or 2 :D | 22:33 | |
| stephg | netzvieh, you're missing out | 22:33 |
| netzvieh | but i started black mesa :> | 22:33 |
| * sledges agrees | 22:33 | |
| sledges | hl2 sux tho ;) | 22:33 |
| sledges | good | 22:33 |
| netzvieh | stephg: problem is, there are so many games. so many games i own :D and not enough time | 22:33 |
| netzvieh | I'll probably play it, when there is a release date for hl3 | 22:34 |
| sledges | and blue shift pls ktxby | 22:34 |
| sledges | well, but some games are classics ;) | 22:34 |
| sledges | like gta2 | 22:34 |
| sledges | carmageddon2 | 22:35 |
| sledges | thief | 22:35 |
| netzvieh | like c&c ra :) | 22:35 |
| sledges | uc ;) | 22:35 |
| sledges | ut | 22:35 |
| * netzvieh is too young to have played most of them :D | 22:35 | |
| sledges | :D | 22:35 |
| dr_gogeta86 | hi guys | 22:36 |
| dr_gogeta86 | but lua 5.2 | 22:36 |
| dr_gogeta86 | is avaible on mer ? | 22:36 |
| sledges | never too late, is like listening to classical music :)6 | 22:36 |
| sledges | dr_gogeta86: erlang got compiled recently | 22:36 |
| stephg | ^ what he said | 22:36 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i need lua 5.2 | 22:37 |
| dr_gogeta86 | for telegram | 22:37 |
| sledges | if not as standard, you can fing lua in obs i think and sideload | 22:37 |
| netzvieh | sledges: true, but there are so many good games, and good books, and good tv shows and most of all good food i want to cook :D and time is rather limited :( | 22:37 |
| dr_gogeta86 | dammit | 22:37 |
| stephg | ditch the tv ;) | 22:38 |
| sledges | netzvieh: agree, and i already gave up many of those :) | 22:38 |
| sledges | ^ what he said | 22:38 |
| netzvieh | stephg: only watching from DVD/Blu-Ray ;) there are some really great things I don't want to miss :D | 22:39 |
| netzvieh | ceterum censeo my day needs at least 48h | 22:40 |
| sledges | or watch fouble speed | 22:40 |
| sledges | d | 22:40 |
| netzvieh | sledges: well my "listening comprehension" is good, but not that good ;) and english is somehow more quiet than german ;) | 22:41 |
| sledges | vol up | 22:41 |
| stephg | ha | 22:41 |
| sledges | anyhow, jokes away :) | 22:41 |
| sledges | time to work a bit like lullaby | 22:42 |
| netzvieh | so, when do we see RC Public? | 22:42 |
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| sledges | soon | 22:42 |
| netzvieh | :P | 22:42 |
| sledges | /join #soon | 22:42 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | sorry for mu noobines | 22:44 |
| dr_gogeta86 | but set a configure properties into qt creator project | 22:44 |
| dr_gogeta86 | *my | 22:45 |
| dr_gogeta86 | --disable-* | 22:45 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i go | 22:48 |
| dr_gogeta86 | night | 22:48 |
| stephg | night dr_gogeta86 | 22:48 |
| sledges | notte | 22:48 |
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