artemma | never mind, got pointer to https://github.com/nemomobile/timed/tree/master/src | 00:01 |
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stephg | morning folks | 07:23 |
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rantom | I'm a bit confused considering how to update N950 image of Nemo, running Wayland | 10:04 |
rantom | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Updating#Wayland.2FQt5 "(ssu ur won't output anything, and only needs to be run if `zypper lr` doesn't report any adaptation* repos):" | 10:04 |
rantom | Since zypper lr does list adaptation repos what should I run now? As I understand not ssu ur? | 10:05 |
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rantom | Or is the current workflow to update the image in Wayland, if adaptation repos are listed: su - zypper ref - zypper dup - zypper in -t pattern nemo-n950-wayland ? | 10:13 |
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sledges | rantom: yes | 10:30 |
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rantom | sledges: OK. So my workflow is correct (double-checking)? | 10:47 |
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rantom | Also, what does the "Refresh: No" mean from zypper lr? | 10:54 |
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sledges | gmornin! :) | 12:37 |
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stephg | afternoon! | 12:40 |
vgrade-wk | \o | 12:42 |
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norguhtar | hello. i'm build libpurple and telepathy-haze for mer. How contribute it? | 13:47 |
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sledges | hi norguhtar, from upstreams, source is under https://github.com/nemomobile-packages | 13:51 |
sledges | and https://github.com/mer-packages | 13:51 |
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norguhtar | sledges: how add new repo? | 13:52 |
vakkov_ | sailfish on everythiing - waiting for them Nokia X+ and XL | 13:53 |
sledges | norguhtar: you need to ask one of the admins, but first just have it in your github/home | 13:53 |
sledges | with packaging info under rpm/ | 13:53 |
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sledges | and upstream management with submodules (or other way of your choosing) | 13:54 |
sledges | then i can create a webhook and we will produce your RPMs on our build server for further integration | 13:54 |
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norguhtar | sledges: okey i'm just create two projects with rpm included spec. After this send admin link. Right? | 14:01 |
sledges | point me to your two repos pls | 14:02 |
sledges | and create an account and a project under home:yourusername on our build server: http://build.merproject.org | 14:02 |
norguhtar | sledges: already do it. Need put new package to my home project? | 14:03 |
sledges | no, just tell me the name | 14:03 |
sledges | following https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Development#Automated_Packaging_from_git | 14:04 |
norguhtar | okey thanks. | 14:05 |
sledges | welcome :) | 14:06 |
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rantom | Noticed that when running zypper dup I got: Problem: ohm-plugin-videoep requires ohm-plugins-misc but this requirement cannot be provided | 15:53 |
rantom | Solution 1: keep obsolote ohm-plugins- Solution 2: deinstallation of policy-settings-basic-n950 or Solution 3: break ohm-plugin-videoep by ignoring some of its dependencies | 15:55 |
rantom | nemo-n950-rnd-20131206 | 15:58 |
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rantom | Quite easy to reproduce: remove Nemo Mobile, re-add it using the mentioned image and once network connection is set up update by Wiki's instructions for Wayland | 16:02 |
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sledges | rantom: regenerating an image yourself would work 100% | 16:04 |
sledges | as packages have been shuffled around quite a bit since december | 16:04 |
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sledges | for now it's also safe to break the dependency | 16:05 |
sledges | solution 3 | 16:05 |
sledges | as videoep absence won't do much harm | 16:05 |
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sledges | or its dependencies | 16:05 |
rantom | sledges: Alright, thanks. I'd rather use ready-made image since I'm not that experienced to build an image (and I guess hardware-limitations) | 16:06 |
sledges | we need a new image locusf ;) | 16:06 |
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locusf | okay | 16:06 |
sledges | hey glad to see you're here locusf :) | 16:07 |
sledges | how's life? | 16:07 |
locusf | all good | 16:07 |
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locusf | hows jolla doing for you? :) | 16:08 |
sledges | doing well, couldn't do better really :) | 16:08 |
sledges | busy from head to toe and loving it :) | 16:08 |
locusf | nice :) | 16:08 |
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rantom | In my opinion the Updating page from Wiki needs a bit more work. E.g. mention of ssu ur could be better (in this re-added image adaptation repos were not present but after running ssu ur I *think* they are present -> no need to run ssu ur anymore after first time, if I'm not mistaken) and old instructions could be moved to a e.g. subpage. It's a bit confusing now to have X11 instructions on the same page | 16:10 |
sledges | rantom: ok thanks; yes, ssu ur might be needed, might be not, it's a random oneshot issue on first boot | 16:11 |
sledges | so better it's there | 16:11 |
rantom | sledges: Alright. Thank you too :) | 16:11 |
sledges | the x11 bits need vacuuming, agree :) | 16:14 |
sledges | volunteers? ;) | 16:14 |
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rantom | sledges: Out of curiousity: if one wanted to make an image by himself was SSE4 required? | 16:16 |
sledges | no | 16:16 |
sledges | just install mer platform sdk | 16:17 |
sledges | is a chroot based for your linux host | 16:17 |
rantom | Ok. I remember SSE4 being a minimum in the early days of Nemo Mobile | 16:17 |
sledges | but that's for VMs | 16:17 |
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locusf | building a image now | 16:20 |
locusf | sledges: can you still seed ? | 16:20 |
sledges | locusf: i can yes :) | 16:20 |
locusf | nice | 16:21 |
locusf | almost thought that my n9 was dead | 16:21 |
sledges | D: | 16:22 |
sledges | n9 can't be killed, but can be almost dead :) | 16:22 |
locusf | lol yeah :) | 16:22 |
locusf | haven't touched it in a while | 16:22 |
locusf | I prolly should do some glacier stuff | 16:23 |
rantom | Hmm. One more thing. Was the Alt_OS in ext4? | 16:24 |
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sledges | locusf: what keeps you busy otherwise? :) | 16:25 |
sledges | rantom: yes | 16:25 |
rantom | Alright. So no chance to tar with OS X. Thanks | 16:26 |
sledges | :< | 16:26 |
sledges | ubuntu vm ftw | 16:26 |
sledges | is where you'd place your mersdk too ;) | 16:26 |
rantom | Virtualbox doesn't like USB | 16:26 |
locusf | http://mgnet.me/dtqD9H | 16:26 |
sledges | humm | 16:26 |
sledges | no? | 16:27 |
locusf | sledges: my studies :) | 16:27 |
sledges | rantom: we just generated a new image for you ;) | 16:27 |
sledges | locusf: ah :) | 16:27 |
rantom | sledges: Coold | 16:27 |
rantom | -d | 16:27 |
locusf | untested totally | 16:27 |
rantom | :D | 16:27 |
locusf | but its rnd :) | 16:27 |
sledges | perfect :D | 16:27 |
rantom | Guess who *just* booted up the December-image with updated packages :) | 16:28 |
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sledges | rantom: ;P \o/ so solution 3 worked? | 16:28 |
locusf | lol | 16:28 |
rantom | sledges: Seems like it | 16:28 |
rantom | Have to run zypper in -t pattern nemo-complete-wayland now | 16:29 |
sledges | ook | 16:29 |
sledges | :) | 16:29 |
rantom | And I noticed one error during the update installation. Exited with error 1, don't remember which package it was | 16:29 |
sledges | probably you'll get a package manager :) | 16:29 |
rantom | Oh well. In worst case I'll re-add the new image | 16:29 |
sledges | that's fine, you can safely ignore | 16:29 |
rantom | Yeah. That's what I like in rnd-images | 16:30 |
rantom | "X printed an error. Should I worry?" it's rnd it's fine | 16:30 |
sledges | well, not only :D | 16:30 |
rantom | :) | 16:30 |
sledges | during update app is performing some checks | 16:30 |
sledges | and it can happen that they are not critical even if it errors out in test/release builds | 16:31 |
sledges | because an old version is running etc | 16:31 |
locusf | tbr: you might wanna download that image to images.formeego.com | 16:31 |
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rantom | Ah, ok | 16:32 |
rantom | ...dammit | 16:33 |
rantom | Installed nemo-complete-wayland instead of n950 | 16:33 |
rantom | Guess I'll try the new image now.. | 16:33 |
sledges | locusf: leeching :) | 16:33 |
locusf | sledges: whee | 16:33 |
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sledges | locusf: whoops | 16:34 |
sledges | nothing :D | 16:35 |
rantom | Hmm. When is the new image coming to images? | 16:36 |
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rantom | Approx | 16:36 |
locusf | rantom: use the mgnet.me link I just pasted | 16:36 |
locusf | http://mgnet.me/dtqD9H | 16:36 |
rantom | ok | 16:37 |
sledges | arrived (the link) to images ;) | 16:37 |
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locusf | oh nice, thanks sledges | 16:38 |
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sledges | locusf: torrent one | 16:39 |
locusf | yeah | 16:39 |
Superpelican_ | I know this isn't a strictly Nemo/Mer question, but does anyone here have experience building qtmozembed on non-deb-based systems? | 16:40 |
Superpelican_ | The Mozilla Wiki only shows how to build it with dpkg-buildpackage | 16:40 |
Superpelican_ | (I'm using Fedora currently) | 16:40 |
tbr | locusf: sorry? | 16:41 |
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locusf | tbr: new image for you to mirror :) | 16:42 |
tbr | ah | 16:42 |
sledges | Superpelican_: rpmbuild ? | 16:44 |
* tbr grumbles, rtorrent doesn't like the link | 16:44 | |
locusf | oh | 16:45 |
Superpelican_ | sledges: Have you tried it? | 16:45 |
tbr | downloading it at home and will push it later | 16:46 |
locusf | I'll leave it seeding for the night | 16:46 |
sledges | Superpelican_: yes we did: https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/qtmozembed | 16:47 |
sledges | Superpelican_: https://build.merproject.org/package/live_build_log?arch=armv8el&package=qtmozembed-qt5&project=nemo%3Adevel%3Amw&repository=latest_armv7hl | 16:47 |
rantom | Seems like I don't have an application installed for magnets. I'll wait until the new image is up for direct download | 16:48 |
rantom | Again, thanks a lot :) | 16:48 |
sledges | rantom: sensors? | 16:52 |
sledges | ahhhhh | 16:52 |
sledges | torrents | 16:52 |
locusf | I've got the torrent file | 16:52 |
locusf | I can share it too to my dropbox | 16:53 |
locusf | one moment | 16:53 |
rantom | No need, I don't have a torrent-client either installed | 16:53 |
sledges | is also for tbr ;) | 16:53 |
sledges | he'll put it up | 16:53 |
rantom | Good point :) | 16:53 |
locusf | ah ok | 16:56 |
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vgrade_ | \o | 18:42 |
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rantom | Hmm | 19:09 |
rantom | I'm checking the dual-boot method for N950 from the Wiki. | 19:09 |
rantom | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Dual-boot_method I checked the new modified moslo and there's "moslo-rootfs.tar", when extracted. Where is this needed? | 19:11 |
rantom | I was considering to update my modified moslo to the newer version (the one I have works but extracts Alt_OS when plugged to charger) | 19:12 |
rantom | Other than that it looks familiar, excluding that there's also now "moslo-version" file in there which I don't recall seeing in the previous version | 19:14 |
sledges | extracts Alt_OS when plugged to charger) | 19:15 |
sledges | ? | 19:15 |
rantom | An old bug that was fixed long time ago | 19:16 |
rantom | I just didn't get myself to update moslo when Nokia's servers still offered OCF, moslo, etc | 19:16 |
rantom | sledges: https://github.com/nemomobile/moslo/commit/fdaf6b20aaa554c322c6343092ac4b85fc9eb9ee | 19:17 |
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rantom | Oh. Poor wording on my part. I meant that it exports USB mass storage when connected to charger, since I have the old one | 19:18 |
sledges | it exports mass storage into a charger? :) | 19:21 |
rantom | Well it seems to do so :D | 19:21 |
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rantom | Anyway, to summarize: when downloaded modified moslo is extracted what are the other files used for? E.g. moslo-rootfs.tar since those are not covered in that Wiki page? | 19:22 |
rantom | I'm also guessing that the Installing-site is a bit out-of-date, e.g. links are old/outdated from what I can tell (the Nokia ones) | 19:24 |
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sledges | humm, can't tell about n950 myself :/ | 19:32 |
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sledges | flasher the latest moslo loader following tutorial? | 19:33 |
sledges | should do it | 19:33 |
rantom | I'll let it be for now then. Last time I re-installed/updated modified moslo it was a bit of pain (IIRC that was due to the distros behavior that caused some problems) | 19:35 |
rantom | Just curious what the extra files are needed for since they are not listed on the site itself | 19:36 |
sledges | no? | 19:41 |
sledges | like what? | 19:41 |
sledges | flasher and ape algorithm from ROM image? | 19:42 |
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rantom | I mean that on the Wiki, Install - Dualboot, page there's no mention of moslo-rootfs.tar that comes out of the downloaded modified moslo .rpm | 20:25 |
rantom | What is it used for, that is my question | 20:26 |
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rantom | But I'm going to apply the "if it's not broken don't fix it" logic here. :) | 20:46 |
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alin | sledges: hi.. is the wait over? | 21:25 |
stephg | alin, afaik, no | 21:25 |
* stephg just one more day... I keep telling myself | 21:26 | |
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vakkov | http://www.gsmarena.com/zte_nubia_z5s_mini-5853.php | 21:39 |
vakkov | whaaaaaaaT?! | 21:39 |
vakkov | 210 euro and it is that good? | 21:39 |
vakkov | the bigger variant (non-mini version) has snapdragon 800 :X #putSailfishOnThat | 21:40 |
vakkov | #loveChinaPhones | 21:40 |
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vakkov | only one question - why the hell the bigger and faster zte does not support micro sd cards while the smaller one with snapdragon 600 does | 22:16 |
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artemma | installed timed-qt5 to sdk (via PkgConfigBr) , trying to #include <timed-qt5/interface> and getting fatal error: QDBusMessage: No such file or directory | 22:23 |
artemma | shouldn't timed package depend on some dbus package then? | 22:23 |
artemma | and which package should I install then? | 22:23 |
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artemma | actuall SDK contains /mer/targets/SailfishOS-armv7hl/usr/include/qt5/QtDBus/QDBusMessage | 22:24 |
artemma | why it cannot be found from timed sources then? | 22:24 |
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artemma | some CONFIG += needed for adding dbus headers? | 22:25 |
artemma | ah, it was not CONFIG, but QT += dbus | 22:26 |
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kimmoli | talking alone sometimes solves issues ... | 22:37 |
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