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| krnlyng | juiceme: do you have a diff of the l2fix? i want to know what this does | 08:17 |
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| krnlyng | juiceme: is it this? https://github.com/nemomobile/kernel-adaptation-n950-n9/commit/994b4b2c91e062264c4eb19f3bb38e5fe2639e73 | 08:25 |
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| valdur55 | krnlyng: someone just explained the purpose of l2fix kernel... | 08:47 |
| valdur55 | In ubiboot thread | 08:47 |
| krnlyng | valdur55, juiceme: nvm i found what i needed | 08:47 |
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| valdur55 | ok :) | 08:50 |
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| sledges | gmornin' | 09:09 |
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| tbr | good moaning | 09:11 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | morning ! | 13:11 |
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| sledges | hello sfiet! | 13:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hello sledges | 13:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | how are you ? | 13:13 |
| sledges | never been better ;) thanks | 13:13 |
| sledges | and you? | 13:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | now that Sailfish stuff is ready, I need to do some nemo stuff | 13:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | quite well | 13:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | had some time to code during christmas so happy | 13:13 |
| sledges | O_o anything that floats your boat ;) (no pun intended) | 13:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | slightly unhappy that Friends got rejected from harbour though | 13:14 |
| sledges | OT here ;P | 13:14 |
| * Sfiet_Konstantin don't like when OBS is blocked too | 13:14 | |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | well | 13:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | let's talk nemo here | 13:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: do you know how to have a vbox image of current nemo ? | 13:19 |
| sledges | wiki | 13:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or is there a recent snapshot ? | 13:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :( | 13:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I was expecting a link :D | 13:19 |
| sledges | Nemo/Installing | 13:20 |
| sledges | ;) | 13:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :P | 13:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | reading | 13:20 |
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| sledges | no current image im afraid :) locusf ;) | 13:25 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Joe8: hi | 13:33 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Joe8: here is the spec for lists http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=595 | 13:33 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: ^ he is implementing list elements :) | 13:33 |
| faenil | oh cool! :) | 13:36 |
| faenil | is he your university friend? | 13:36 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: yep | 13:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | morning faenil o/ | 13:38 |
| faenil | cool :) welcome Joe8 :) | 13:38 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: can the nemo image fit in an image of 1.5 gigs in your opinion ? | 13:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm short on disk space now, so .... | 13:43 |
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| Joe8 | hi, faenil :) | 13:43 |
| faenil | well the final compressed file is about 250mb iirc | 13:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: :/ | 13:43 |
| faenil | but I don't know how much you need to build it | 13:43 |
| faenil | or you meant the VDI? | 13:43 |
| faenil | or what | 13:44 |
| faenil | sorry I was not following :) | 13:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: mic create raw | 13:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | creates me a 3 gigs image | 13:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm creating a 1.5 now | 13:44 |
| faenil | should be okay, imho | 13:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: ah sorry: context: I'm building a nemo VBox image | 13:44 |
| faenil | okay, haven't done that since I was working on booting nemo wayland :D | 13:45 |
| fk_lx | Joe8: salut! :-P | 13:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | fk_lx: :D | 13:47 |
| Joe8 | Salut! | 13:47 |
| * fk_lx downloaded some French learning app some time ago, but haven't had time to recall, so his basing on his French knowledge from high school :-P | 13:49 | |
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| fk_lx | Il fait froid un peu ici au Sud du Pologne :-P hehe | 13:50 |
| fk_lx | enough :D | 13:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | fk_lx: and it seems that it often summaries in "salut" :D | 13:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | fk_lx: aaah nice :D | 13:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | fk_lx: how cold is it ? | 13:50 |
| * Sfiet_Konstantin test | 13:51 | |
| fk_lx | C'est 5 degree :-P | 13:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | fk_lx: geez | 13:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | too cold for me | 13:51 |
| fk_lx | (don't know if it's 5 degrees, but had to answer something) | 13:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | of course, some finn will come and say that FI is -40 right now | 13:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | fk_lx: ah :D | 13:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hehe | 13:51 |
| fk_lx | at -40C Finns finally put on themselves t-shirts | 13:52 |
| fk_lx | at -60 they put on jacket :-P | 13:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | fk_lx: yeah | 13:52 |
| * fk_lx smells with his experienced academic nose that appearance of Joe8 here means end of semester is coming soon ;-) | 13:55 | |
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| crnd_ | it's more like +5 here now :( | 13:58 |
| faenil | I got a call from FI the other day "are you in Italy?" "yes" "how is the weather like there?" "it's -2°" "what? here in FI it's +something!" | 14:00 |
| tbr | :D | 14:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: :O | 14:00 |
| tbr | yes, weather here sux | 14:00 |
| tbr | no snow, just wet and dark | 14:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | fk_lx: nope, the semester is not finishing at all. actually we don't even have "semester". It is 8 month | 14:01 |
| faenil | maybe fk_lx's nose is just a bit cold :D | 14:01 |
| fk_lx | hehe :-) | 14:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is because of the 5°C | 14:02 |
| faenil | eheh | 14:02 |
| fk_lx | how was it in the joke, Italian cars brake down when temp is under 0C | 14:02 |
| * fk_lx hides to not be caught by faenil and stezz | 14:03 | |
| faenil | ? I don't know that :) | 14:03 |
| fk_lx | faenil: I guess it was part of that joke that at -20 C Finns put on t-shirts, kind of earlier part of it with Italian cars :-P | 14:05 |
| faenil | ah :) | 14:06 |
| fk_lx | it was like what happens at certain temperatures | 14:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hum | 14:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: is this normal that glacier ui background is transparent ? | 14:07 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, which background | 14:08 |
| faenil | it's usually black | 14:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: application background | 14:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I just built a fresh vbox image | 14:08 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, talk QML :P | 14:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: :D | 14:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | wait a s, I'm rebooting the vm | 14:08 |
| faenil | ohhh | 14:08 |
| faenil | I remember there was an issue in VM maybe | 14:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: :( | 14:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | what kind ? | 14:08 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, did you read on the page where you downloaded the vm? | 14:09 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, you're a very naughty boy :P | 14:09 |
| faenil | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#i486-vm | 14:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | aaaaah | 14:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | didn't see this | 14:09 |
| faenil | bla bla bla :P | 14:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | was following https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Wayland_Nemo_VM_Image | 14:10 |
| faenil | mmm might be worth adding a note there | 14:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: yep | 14:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | thx | 14:11 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, done :) | 14:12 |
| faenil | thanks | 14:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 14:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | great | 14:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | thx faenil, the emu looks nice | 14:14 |
| * faenil is sad becaues he doesn't have time for Nemo :( looks forward to finishing uni exams | 14:15 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: how many compilers exams like left ? :D | 14:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | how many projects left too | 14:16 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, none :P | 14:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ? | 14:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: aha :D | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | Sfiet_Konstantin: btw when were you done with uni | 14:16 |
| faenil | 1 P2P project, 1 Data Mining Project, 1 HUUUGE math exam | 14:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: end of april | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | Sfiet_Konstantin: that's actually fairly soon | 14:16 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, already?? coool | 14:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: yeah \o/ | 14:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | quick quick, I want to work | 14:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 14:16 |
| faenil | so you're working on the thesis already? | 14:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: no thesis here | 14:17 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, oh, anything similar? or just exams? | 14:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm allowed to directly go to work after exams etc. | 14:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: exams | 14:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 14:17 |
| faenil | lol :D | 14:17 |
| Stskeeps | will it be a masters? | 14:17 |
| faenil | not fair! o/ | 14:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: engineering school master | 14:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: french style :D | 14:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: actually the nemo project can be considered as a "thesis" | 14:18 |
| Stskeeps | ah so diploma engineer | 14:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yep | 14:19 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:19 |
| faenil | whats is the difference between MSc and that? | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | you don't get invited to fancy uni parties | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:20 |
| faenil | which uni parties xD | 14:21 |
| Morpog_PC | Sfiet_Konstantin, Joe8 always check github for specs, the ones on grog blog can be outdated | 14:21 |
| valdur55 | o yea... my first semester's session time... | 14:21 |
| valdur55 | a | 14:21 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: go update them on grog :P | 14:21 |
| krnlyng | i just finished my bsc :). may i work for jolla ;D? | 14:21 |
| faenil | krnlyng, you'll never know if you don't apply ;) | 14:22 |
| Morpog_PC | Sfiet_Konstantin, https://github.com/qwazix/glacier-controls-spec/tree/master/listview | 14:22 |
| Morpog_PC | everything is there | 14:22 |
| Morpog_PC | https://github.com/qwazix/glacier-controls-spec/blob/master/listview/listview-small.png | 14:23 |
| Morpog_PC | https://github.com/qwazix/glacier-controls-spec/blob/master/listview/listview-medium.png | 14:23 |
| Morpog_PC | https://github.com/qwazix/glacier-controls-spec/blob/master/listview/listview-big.png | 14:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: putting stuff like this (images) on git disturbs me a bit | 14:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but ok | 14:23 |
| Morpog_PC | well, like that you can see whats new ,) | 14:24 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: is there specs about transition ? | 14:24 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | how should the page move ? | 14:24 |
| krnlyng | faenil: i don't think it's ever gonna happen, was just kidding. i would be highly motivated though, but i don't even have an informatics bsc, it's a mathematics bsc^^ | 14:25 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hey, there is a pulley-menu inspired action system in item delegates :O | 14:25 |
| faenil | krnlyng, aren't you a kernel hacker? :) | 14:25 |
| Morpog_PC | Sfiet_Konstantin, nope no spec for transition, be creative :) | 14:25 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: :( | 14:25 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: I will use a bounce effect | 14:25 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | <3 bounce effects :D | 14:26 |
| Morpog_PC | sounds good | 14:26 |
| sledges | Joe8: wb :) | 14:26 |
| Joe8 | :D | 14:27 |
| krnlyng | faenil: i would say informatics hobbyist :), or hobbyist hacker, i went to an electronics+informatics school prior to my studies so i know my way around | 14:27 |
| faenil | krnlyng, I wouldn't worry about the title if this is what you love doing ;) | 14:27 |
| Morpog_PC | Sfiet_Konstantin, that extra spec in medium listview was done by qwazix, I'm not sure if that needs to be implemented in 1st version | 14:27 |
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| faenil | krnlyng, contributing to Nemo is probably the best way to have a chance to be noticed by Jolla | 14:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: let's first implement a draft, and wrap around :) | 14:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | looking at how pagestack works | 14:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: +1 | 14:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | krnlyng: or to the mer project | 14:28 |
| faenil | krnlyng, remember Stskeeps is active 24/7 here :P he's like the big eye in Mordor | 14:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | krnlyng: look at sledges :D | 14:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: :D | 14:28 |
| krnlyng | faenil: lol | 14:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | damn, I wanted to say "krnlyng: look at sledges, he contributed a lot to Nemo and to Mer ?" | 14:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and faenil disturbed me | 14:29 |
| faenil | krnlyng, Sfiet_Konstantin is trying to be humble, me and him also got an internship in Jolla thanks to our efforts in Nemo :) | 14:31 |
| faenil | krnlyng, so...well, you know ;) | 14:31 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: :P we got just an internship | 14:31 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges got a ... JOB :O:O | 14:31 |
| krnlyng | i would love to do an internship :D | 14:32 |
| Stskeeps | krnlyng: where are you located? | 14:32 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | krnlyng: are you ready to move to FI for x month ? | 14:33 |
| krnlyng | Stskeeps: austria | 14:33 |
| krnlyng | Sfiet_Konstantin: if it was to work for/with jolla then yes :) | 14:34 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, we got what we had time for :) | 14:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: :) | 14:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | krnlyng: then, be prepared to grab a nemo / mer project and contribute to it, beef up QML / Qt / C++ / Mer skills etc. | 14:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and you might get an internship :) | 14:35 |
| faenil | +1, and good luck :) | 14:36 |
| krnlyng | Sfiet_Konstantin: any suggestions which project could need my help? | 14:36 |
| krnlyng | thanks :D | 14:36 |
| faenil | krnlyng, well I guess getting 3.5.3 to work decently on n9 is a nice piece of it :P | 14:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | krnlyng: what do you like ? | 14:37 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, he's working on 3.5 kernel | 14:37 |
| krnlyng | hm i like low level stuff :D | 14:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: ah :) kernel hackers, that's good :) | 14:38 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, told him :) | 14:38 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | I guess that doing some android + libhybris or some ports of nemo is the right thing to do | 14:39 |
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| juiceme | krnlyng, yes, that's the fix exactly :) | 18:29 |
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| coderus | juiceme: try to use Nemo bme, not meego one, and try to compile dummy libdsme for ubiboot to make bme works | 18:36 |
| juiceme | coderus, yes that might work | 18:36 |
| coderus | dsme need to get boot status and s | 18:37 |
| coderus | checl libdsme in nemo sources, its open | 18:37 |
| juiceme | I kind of thought the Nemo version would be as complex as the Harmattan version. | 18:39 |
| juiceme | coderus, you mean https://github.com/nemomobile/libdsme | 18:40 |
| coderus | this yes | 18:41 |
| coderus | well, Nemo bme is not so powerful as meego, but enough for ubiboot | 18:41 |
| juiceme | you are correct there. | 18:42 |
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| juiceme | coderus, seems I cannot build it without the whole mer SDK | 18:59 |
| juiceme | hmm this is pretty new to me as building kernels is so nice and selfcontained :( | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | kernels are such a blessing | 19:01 |
| juiceme | anybody throw me a quick link what to do to get the SDK and be able to muild nemo components... | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't wiki.merproject.org/Nemo have a guide? | 19:01 |
| juiceme | Stskeeps, true it is | 19:01 |
| juiceme | am just looking at it, tl;dr :) | 19:01 |
| juiceme | but I guess I'll have to read it all *sigh* | 19:01 |
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| juiceme | what's the preferred install, on bare metal or in a virtual machine? | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | i personally just have platform sdk on my host | 19:04 |
| juiceme | so I have an ubuntu box, forex this one now... 12.04, some lousy core2duo, about 40G free space. Is that adequate? | 19:06 |
| Stskeeps | should be fine | 19:07 |
| sledges | juiceme: no you don't have to read | 19:08 |
| sledges | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK#tl.3Bdr | 19:08 |
| sledges | and then | 19:08 |
| sledges | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Armv7hl_Development_Guide | 19:08 |
| juiceme | thanks | 19:10 |
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| juiceme | sledges, there was an error message: "Directory /var/run/dbus is missing in SDK root - please report this bug" | 19:15 |
| juiceme | otherwice it seems ok? | 19:16 |
| sledges | juiceme: at which point? | 19:17 |
| juiceme | when I did "sdk mount" | 19:18 |
| juiceme | but otherwice it seems to work, am now pulling stuff in via zypper just fine | 19:19 |
| sledges | good good, just that im not getting that error during sdk mount; "what can possibly go wrong?" (TM) | 19:21 |
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| juiceme | right :) | 19:21 |
| juiceme | now that I have installed the chroot SDK, how can I make single components, forexample the libdsme? | 19:22 |
| juiceme | can I just pull it off git and run "make" just like that? | 19:23 |
| juiceme | or do I need to manage dependencies and pull more stuff | 19:23 |
| faenil | juiceme, more like git clone the repo | 19:23 |
| faenil | cd to the cloned dir | 19:23 |
| faenil | and | 19:23 |
| faenil | "mb build -t target_name rpmfile" | 19:24 |
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| faenil | that will download dependencies, compile, and create rpm :) | 19:24 |
| faenil | but it requires having a working sb2 target, if you don't have that already | 19:24 |
| juiceme | ya, have not got that yet | 19:25 |
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| sledges | 2nd link i pasted | 19:26 |
| juiceme | that's the "mic create...." stuff? | 19:26 |
| juiceme | yes | 19:26 |
| sledges | yes | 19:26 |
| juiceme | hmm... mic gives me a warning "vdso is enabled on your host, which might cause problems with arm emulations." | 19:29 |
| juiceme | should I disable vsdo? | 19:29 |
| juiceme | s/vsdo/vdso/ | 19:29 |
| juiceme | whatever that is... :) | 19:29 |
| Stskeeps | no | 19:30 |
| juiceme | okay. | 19:30 |
| juiceme | what's this mic thingy doing now, is it kind of "build world" in bsd terms...? | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | takes rpm from repositories, makes iamges | 19:31 |
| Stskeeps | images | 19:31 |
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| artemma | how do you guys test lipstick components | 22:42 |
| artemma | I am banging my head at mocking LauncherModel (for testign stuff I want to build on top of it) and.. LauncherModel instantiates a monitor in a constructor - kind'a hard to fill it with fake stuff instead | 22:43 |
| artemma | or is there some general mock framework that you use for nemo tests? | 22:43 |
| Venemo | I'm not sure anyone has ever done that kind of testing for it | 22:44 |
| Venemo | but | 22:44 |
| artemma | oh.. | 22:44 |
| Venemo | can't you "just use" something other than a LauncherModel, for your test? | 22:44 |
| * artemma was last time seriously coding for Qt a couple of years ago and mock frameworks were hard that time | 22:45 | |
| Venemo | you could emulate with a simple QML ListModel or whatever | 22:45 |
| artemma | well, I am creating a FilteredModel on top of LauncherModel | 22:45 |
| artemma | so as long as there is something that looks like QObjectModel containing something like LauncherItems I should be fine | 22:46 |
| Venemo | let me take a look | 22:46 |
| Venemo | I haven't seen that code in like, a year or so | 22:46 |
| artemma | oh.. so I need to build my fake model on top of qobjectmodel then. But then my FilteredModel should be able to accept any QObjectModel while I'd like it to be tied to LauncherModel :/ | 22:47 |
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| artemma | though maybe it's not a bad idea to allow for filtering any object model. After all it can filter anything that responds to title() | 22:47 |
| artemma | that provides* title() | 22:47 |
| Venemo | artemma: QObjectListModel? https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick/blob/master/src/utilities/qobjectlistmodel.h | 22:48 |
| Venemo | artemma: it has a single role called "object" | 22:48 |
| artemma | yep, QObjectListModel | 22:48 |
| Venemo | if you get the data() you will get a QObject* | 22:49 |
| artemma | yes, and all of these objects are of known type (I build LauncherItemMock instances for testing) | 22:49 |
| Venemo | well, I have two ideas for you | 22:49 |
| Venemo | first, build your filtered model on top of QObjectListModel instead and make the assumption that the QObject* it returns is of the right type | 22:50 |
| artemma | the final ideal target would be to get FilteredModel that is able to accept LauncherModel which in-test would be mocked. But it looks like that is impossible without a real mock framework while nemo.. doesn't seem to use any general mock framework? | 22:50 |
| Venemo | artemma: have you looked at https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick/tree/master/tests ? | 22:51 |
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| artemma | browsed quickly | 22:51 |
| artemma | and haven't found anything mock related | 22:51 |
| artemma | that is why the question about how you guys test classes that plug into lower system levels such as file monitor | 22:52 |
| Venemo | what's wrong with accepting a QObjectListModel instead of a LauncherModel? | 22:52 |
| artemma | Venemo: yes, that's probably what I will do. Was thinking of stronger typing | 22:53 |
| artemma | I think I can solve my particular issue in some way, what is real interesting is how you approach unit testing in general | 22:53 |
| artemma | tests I managed to quickly browse in lipstick are mostly simple gettters/setters | 22:53 |
| * artemma is mostly coding in JavaScript nowadays where mocking anything is easy | 22:54 | |
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| Venemo | honestly | 22:56 |
| Venemo | I never did any unit testing for that | 22:56 |
| Venemo | I mean, when I worked on it it was just a hobby project | 22:56 |
| artemma | I see | 22:57 |
| artemma | I am not really familiar with nemo project structure, so don't know much about general practices there | 22:57 |
| Venemo | btw, what you call a "mock" seems to be called "stubs" in that source tree | 22:57 |
| artemma | some tests do exist in general, don't they? | 22:57 |
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| artemma | aha! indeed. thanks for pointing | 22:58 |
| Venemo | although it seems that LauncherItem / LauncherModel don't have any unit tests, but a lot of other things do | 22:58 |
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| Venemo | artemma: the thing is that I never had any C++ unit testing experience when I did that stuff | 23:21 |
| artemma | Venemo: I am not saying you or anybody else did something wrong | 23:22 |
| artemma | you guys did great stuff | 23:22 |
| Venemo | but I did! | 23:22 |
| Venemo | artemma: if I was doing it now, LauncherModel would be two classes instead of one | 23:22 |
| artemma | and I know that mocking in c++ in general is difficult | 23:22 |
| Venemo | anyway, at that time, I was just happy that it worked | 23:23 |
| artemma | it is indeed most important that it works :) | 23:23 |
| artemma | good design and tests just tend to get to that point easier and make modifications easier | 23:24 |
| Venemo | yes, I totally agree with you | 23:24 |
| Venemo | when I first started working on it, it was a big monstrous mess - lots of duplicate code everywhere, no design, no direction | 23:24 |
| Venemo | it was stiched together from the meegotouch home screen and some code from intel's tablet UX | 23:25 |
| * artemma is no expert in c++ unit testing either despite improving one Symbian specific unit testing network in the past. I just use it when I can | 23:25 | |
| Venemo | :) | 23:26 |
| Venemo | anyway, I managed to make it better, removed a lot of duplicate code, etc etc | 23:26 |
| Venemo | then, sadly, I had some shit going on in my life, so didn't have any time to work on it anymore | 23:26 |
| Venemo | but fortunately other people picked it up :) | 23:26 |
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| artemma | good for improvement, sorry for the life shit | 23:28 |
| Venemo | but you see, the guy who eg. implemented the wayland part had no idea about QObjectListModel so he just went on and subclassed QAbstractListModel instead | 23:28 |
| Venemo | what a waste of effort | 23:28 |
| artemma | ah, LauncherItem also can't be mocked | 23:35 |
| artemma | uhm.. I would actually like to check launcher item validity using strict typing | 23:36 |
| Venemo | like I said, use a QObjectListModel and fill it with insteances of a QObject subclass for which you create the necessary properties | 23:36 |
| artemma | but for the test I need some sort of LauncherItem mock as real one expects actual filename to be present in the system. So I cannot use real one even if I just use title() and isValid() from it | 23:36 |
| artemma | yes, yes, but then model filtering needs to cast contents to LauncherItem to do actual filtering | 23:37 |
| Venemo | why? | 23:37 |
| artemma | I need to get the launcher item titles | 23:37 |
| artemma | and filter by title | 23:37 |
| Venemo | use QObject features | 23:37 |
| artemma | and also check isValid probably | 23:38 |
| artemma | yeah, I can call via meta object somehow probably.. | 23:38 |
| Venemo | title and isValid are Q_PROPERTY's aren't they | 23:38 |
| artemma | yes, they are | 23:38 |
| Venemo | http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.1/qtcore/qobject.html#property | 23:38 |
| Venemo | obj->property("title").toString() | 23:39 |
| artemma | yeah, calling by name is possible.. just not sure if I want to do it for the test only :/ | 23:39 |
| Venemo | what do you think the QML side calls behind the curtains? | 23:40 |
| artemma | hmm. Well, I guess I don't have a choice for now. For the future I'll probably need to pick up some mockign framework even if complex | 23:40 |
| artemma | Venemo: I know, and my daytime coding is mostly in java and javascript | 23:40 |
| artemma | yet on c++ side I like using c++ benefits :) | 23:40 |
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| artemma | such as type checking | 23:40 |
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| Venemo | artemma: while I understand your concern - and agree with it too - I suggest that until LauncherItem and LauncherModel are reimplemented to be mockable, you should restort to doing it this way | 23:42 |
| artemma | Venemo: thanks, that's what I am doing now | 23:42 |
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| Venemo | artemma: also, I'm sure the guys will accept your pull request if you can make those classes testable ;) | 23:44 |
| * artemma is more on the app side | 23:44 | |
| artemma | Will think about it though | 23:44 |
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