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| Sfiet_Konstantin | damn, I feel so stupid | 08:58 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | I cannot connect to my N950 nemo over SSH :/ | 08:59 |
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| fk_lx | Sfiet_Konstantin: hi | 09:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hi fk_lx | 09:06 |
| dm8tbr | good moaning gents | 09:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | N9 surgey | 09:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | restoring my GF's N9 | 09:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | disk got corrupted, I have never seen that :/ | 09:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | everything lost ... | 09:07 |
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| stephg | yikes | 09:24 |
| stephg | photorec! | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | Sfiet_Konstantin: hmm but mydocs is FAT | 09:25 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: I don't know | 09:31 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | both /home/user/* and mydocs failed | 09:31 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | even photos were wiped | 09:32 |
| stephg | photorec should find them all unless something has gone around zeroing blocks | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | Sfiet_Konstantin: ouch, mount -o ro too? | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | Sfiet_Konstantin: you might have been unlucky and have had one of the n9s that got recalled cos of bad emmc | 09:33 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: it worked for > 1.5 years | 09:34 |
| Stskeeps | you'd be surprised how long time those things can take to fail | 09:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | stephg: photorec ? | 09:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: :( | 09:34 |
| stephg | http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk | 09:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | stephg: :O | 09:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | is it compiled for the N9 ? | 09:35 |
| stephg | photorec specifically | 09:35 |
| Stskeeps | Sfiet_Konstantin: btw: hint of advice - dd_rescue the partition(s) | 09:35 |
| stephg | you'd need to build it | 09:35 |
| stephg | but I'd just dd the whole ting | 09:35 |
| Stskeeps | and do the resurrection off device | 09:35 |
| stephg | ^what he said | 09:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | stephg: ah | 09:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | good idea | 09:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | tried to dd the mmc stuff | 09:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but didn't get anything interesting out of them | 09:36 |
| Stskeeps | i saved my brother's photos of his children for 8-9 years that way | 09:36 |
| Stskeeps | excepting 2-3 ones | 09:36 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | good | 09:36 |
| Stskeeps | Sfiet_Konstantin: also kpartx -a if you dump the entire mmc | 09:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: do you advice doing this for mydocs ? | 09:36 |
| Stskeeps | Sfiet_Konstantin: yes, just make a copy of entire partition | 09:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ok | 09:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | can you dd over ssh ? | 09:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yes | 09:37 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | thanks Stskeeps and stephg ! | 10:35 |
| stephg | recover anything? | 10:35 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | recovered stuff from /home/user | 10:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so maybe even contacts and stuff are restored | 10:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | no space to dump the whole MyDocs | 10:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | will dump it after freeing stuff | 10:37 |
| stephg | cool | 10:37 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | didn't knew about photorec | 10:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | thanks guys | 10:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | learnt something today | 10:40 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | I think it is impossible to recover the tracker db though: everything is scattered in small pieces all around | 10:46 |
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| fk_lx | Take part in anonymous survey about past and current cooperation between companies and communities in open source mobile Linux projects (all questions are optional): | 12:07 |
| fk_lx | https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1kHw7TFOlWTSyDDmNP0fPPuAt8zpCvRbbLsmX1Mqdmec/viewform | 12:07 |
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| zbenjamin | Sfiet_Konstantin: wtf? how could this happen? | 12:17 |
| zbenjamin | i mean the corrupted disk | 12:17 |
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| faenil | o/ | 12:28 |
| fk_lx | faenil: \o | 12:29 |
| faenil | hey :) | 12:29 |
| fk_lx | faenil: take part in it https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1kHw7TFOlWTSyDDmNP0fPPuAt8zpCvRbbLsmX1Mqdmec/viewform | 12:30 |
| * faenil starts filling in | 12:30 | |
| faenil | fk_lx, can't really help with that survey, but I'm filling replying to some of them | 12:32 |
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| fk_lx | faenil: even partial answers matter | 12:37 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | zbenjamin: well, dunno | 12:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | morning faenil | 12:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | fk_lx: filling the survey | 12:53 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, hey o/ | 12:53 |
| fk_lx | Sfiet_Konstantin: thanks, seems a lot of people filling the survey from what I've seen | 12:54 |
| fk_lx | Sfiet_Konstantin: still i need to go also to Mozilla IRC | 12:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | fk_lx: yeah | 12:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | good | 12:54 |
| fk_lx | now I need to grab some food so bbl | 12:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | fk_lx: bon appétit | 12:59 |
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| fk_lx | Sfiet_Konstantin: merci | 13:15 |
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| locusf | hmm damn | 15:25 |
| locusf | my dropbox public links have generated too much traffic so my nemo image uploading days might be over :/ | 15:25 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | locusf: we need to access to another server ? | 15:26 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | can't you access (or ask for access) the nemo servers ? | 15:26 |
| locusf | Sfiet_Konstantin: yeah | 15:26 |
| locusf | Sfiet_Konstantin: I could probably ask | 15:26 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps, lbt ^ | 15:26 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | dm8tbr: do you know who is in charge of this ? (nemo mobile FTP servers ?) | 15:26 |
| lbt | I think we can use IMG and publish images - but would be nice to setup torrents too | 15:27 |
| locusf | ah finally IMG | 15:27 |
| locusf | its still alive eh :) ? | 15:27 |
| lbt | oh yes :) | 15:27 |
| dm8tbr | I'll be hapy to offer my old community image server | 15:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | lbt: torrents ? | 15:28 |
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| lbt | yep | 15:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | because I don't think that there will be much seeders | 15:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is not a linux distro (yet) | 15:28 |
| dm8tbr | I can run a seed-node on 100M | 15:29 |
| locusf | I could seed it 24/7 | 15:29 |
| lbt | dm8tbr: I think we should look at getting a few of the hosters to seed | 15:29 |
| lbt | that gives resilience too | 15:29 |
| lbt | we can put a torrent client into the SDK | 15:29 |
| lbt | but ... plane soon so not much chatting :) | 15:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | lbt: have a good flight | 15:30 |
| lbt | ty | 15:30 |
| dm8tbr | have a pleasant flight | 15:30 |
| lbt | dm8tbr: going to be in Hel this week at all ? | 15:31 |
| dm8tbr | lbt: no plans yet, but might try to arrange | 15:34 |
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| qwazix | I can seed too. | 16:19 |
| qwazix | Btw Sfiet_Konstantin, if you saved the .smartsearch folder there are some useful sqlite db's there (notes and sms at least) | 16:19 |
| qwazix | check for the biggest file in that dir | 16:19 |
| qwazix | (might also have contacts in there too) | 16:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | qwazix: in .smartsearch ? | 16:20 |
| qwazix | yeah | 16:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I abandonned the idea of restoring .smartsearch | 16:21 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | because my disk got corrupted | 16:21 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | thanks god I exported contacts | 16:21 |
| qwazix | ah ok. It's probably vtvmc.db if you ever need it again (hope not) | 16:21 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | we are getting a jolla here | 16:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | no more N9 | 16:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sorry Nokia | 16:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | even if the N9 is beautiful and nice | 16:22 |
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| locusf | faenil: o/ | 16:33 |
| faenil | locusf, o/ | 16:33 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | morning faenil, locusf | 16:38 |
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| Morpog_PC | qwazix, what would be the U for the Jolla? | 17:13 |
| Morpog_PC | PPI is lamost the same for both | 17:16 |
| Morpog_PC | amlmost | 17:16 |
| qwazix | just a sec | 17:19 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, should be the same | 17:19 |
| Morpog_PC | but that doesn't make sense :) | 17:20 |
| qwazix | bigger screen, bigger res, same viewing distance => more things on screen | 17:20 |
| qwazix | of course it does | 17:20 |
| Morpog_PC | ah ok, I thought it would be same stuff on screen | 17:20 |
| qwazix | no, same u, more pixels to fill | 17:20 |
| Morpog_PC | hmmm, that makes life for developers even more painfully I think | 17:21 |
| qwazix | a little, yeah. But screen real estate is precious | 17:21 |
| qwazix | we shouldn't waste it by scaling everything up | 17:21 |
| Morpog_PC | well, then we need additional code for each device | 17:22 |
| Morpog_PC | like an extra row of icons | 17:22 |
| Morpog_PC | errr collumn | 17:22 |
| qwazix | we should use adaptive code, not device specific | 17:23 |
| qwazix | just a sec | 17:23 |
| qwazix | http://jsfiddle.net/9Xz88/ | 17:26 |
| qwazix | please resize the result pane | 17:27 |
| qwazix | (which IIRC is exactly how the current nemo homescreen works) | 17:27 |
| Morpog_PC | do our components dev know that? | 17:27 |
| qwazix | I think it was never in question that our UI is adaptive | 17:28 |
| qwazix | but we can re-confirm it just to be sure | 17:28 |
| Morpog_PC | well, I always thought it'S same content on all displays but with higher resolution graphics and scaled components | 17:29 |
| Morpog_PC | thats also adaptive | 17:29 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&client=ubuntu&hs=yjV&channel=fs&biw=1600&bih=873&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=nemomobile+on+raspberry+pi&oq=nemomobile+on+raspberry+pi&gs_l=img.3...6944.7670.0.7872.6.6.0.0.0.0.130.602.1j5.6.0....0...1c.1.29.img..6.0.0.lo42tubfhyE#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=9KnAnS2XY5J7MM%3A%3BxTYgrajMQ0cPEM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fi1.ytimg.com%252Fvi%252FuEmgDMAfxZk%252Fmaxresdefault.jpg%253Ffeature%253Dog%3Bhttp%253A%252F | 17:31 |
| qwazix | %252Fwww.youtube.com%252Fwatch%253Fv%253DuEmgDMAfxZk%3B1280%3B720 | 17:31 |
| Morpog_PC | hmm, a 5th row on 960x540 would be too crowded I guess | 17:31 |
| qwazix | oops, giant link | 17:31 |
| qwazix | anyway, it shows nemo on various screens, | 17:31 |
| qwazix | different number of columns each time | 17:31 |
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| Morpog_PC | oooh you are right | 17:33 |
| Morpog_PC | just tried the VM with 720.1280 | 17:33 |
| Morpog_PC | just tried the VM with 720x1280 | 17:33 |
| Morpog_PC | It's 5 rows there | 17:33 |
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| Morpog_PC | still 540x960 looks a bit empty :) | 17:36 |
| Morpog_PC | http://abload.de/img/nemomobile-wayland-96f1i0d.png | 17:38 |
| qwazix | we can still tweak spacing and icon sizes to look good on common resolutions | 17:42 |
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| piggz | im doing some horrible breakage to my n950... | 18:34 |
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| faenil | o/ | 18:57 |
| locusf | \o | 18:57 |
| Morpog_PC | \o/ | 18:58 |
| faenil | o7 | 19:01 |
| faenil | seems like nobody reviewed my PR in the weekend, lazy boys :P | 19:02 |
| Morpog_PC | well, nothing happened at all this weekend :) | 19:02 |
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| Morpog_PC | nah, I think I give up with this lockscreen wallpaper :( | 19:09 |
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| piggz | ooo, nice, my n950 is running saifish ui :) ... vibration is constantly on tho :/ | 19:11 |
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| dm8tbr | piggz: gives vibrant UI a whole new meaning... | 19:16 |
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| piggz | dm8tbr: it stopped vibrating :) | 19:22 |
| Morpog_PC | hmmpf :( | 19:35 |
| Morpog_PC | omg sledges you fool, you fooled me :) | 19:35 |
| faenil | locusf, got time to review the Page PR? | 19:35 |
| Morpog_PC | I'm sure you have known this from beginning... :) | 19:35 |
| locusf | faenil: I already did but forgot to LGTM :) | 19:39 |
| faenil | locusf, you have to be more critic! :P | 19:39 |
| faenil | everything is good to you :D | 19:39 |
| locusf | yeah :D | 19:39 |
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| Morpog_PC | got something to review too :D | 19:47 |
| Morpog_PC | https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick-colorful-home/pull/32 | 19:47 |
| Eztran | Well, that seems pretty important :) | 19:50 |
| locusf | lol | 19:54 |
| locusf | that fixes it? | 19:54 |
| locusf | faenil: one really small nitpick, otherwise LGTM | 19:58 |
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| Morpog_PC | locusf, well, I couldn't try it, but I made a test in Sailfish SDK and tehre it fixed it. | 20:06 |
| locusf | Morpog_PC: what happens exactly? | 20:07 |
| Morpog_PC | well, rectangle is rendered above image | 20:07 |
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| Morpog_PC | with z-1 it's rendered behind | 20:07 |
| locusf | ok | 20:07 |
| Morpog_PC | dunno if that rectangle is needed at all :) | 20:08 |
| Morpog_PC | could be handy if no image is present? | 20:08 |
| special | maybe shouldn't be red anymore. | 20:08 |
| locusf | ah can see it now | 20:09 |
| locusf | nice | 20:09 |
| Morpog_PC | special, yeah could be black too :) | 20:09 |
| locusf | sure that rect can go, but only if there is a wallpaper | 20:10 |
| locusf | now I have my Jolla sailfish in there, flat | 20:10 |
| Morpog_PC | :D | 20:10 |
| Morpog_PC | I think we should let the rect in for now | 20:11 |
| locusf | yup | 20:11 |
| locusf | but what happens when the wallpaper source is gone? | 20:11 |
| faenil | locusf, I didn't mean "bitch about style changes" I mean be more evil on QML side :D | 20:11 |
| locusf | does the rect get shown instead? | 20:11 |
| faenil | if you know how to make one thing better, comment ;) | 20:11 |
| Morpog_PC | thinking about where to set the default gconf keys, if in glacier theme or in lipstick colorful | 20:11 |
| locusf | faenil: I don't know how :D | 20:11 |
| faenil | locusf, ok :) | 20:11 |
| Morpog_PC | locusf, try to change the gconf keys to something non existent | 20:13 |
| locusf | Morpog_PC: okay | 20:13 |
| Morpog_PC | like that: | 20:13 |
| Morpog_PC | /usr/bin/gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:merged:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults -s -t string /desktop/meego/background/portrait/picture_filename /usr/share/themes/glacier/meegotouch/icons/wallpaper-portrait.png | 20:13 |
| Morpog_PC | and | 20:13 |
| Morpog_PC | /usr/bin/gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:merged:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults -s -t string /desktop/meego/background/landscape/picture_filename /usr/share/themes/glacier/meegotouch/icons/wallpaper-landscape.png | 20:13 |
| Morpog_PC | after that you should see the red rectangle again | 20:14 |
| locusf | faenil: I started with QML this summer with Sailfish, so only experience from that, your Glacier stuff is like space age to me | 20:14 |
| faenil | locusf, ah ok no problem :) | 20:14 |
| faenil | maybe we should pay w00t or special a fee to review our PRs when the PR stack is full :D | 20:15 |
| locusf | Morpog_PC: nope, still flat sailfish | 20:15 |
| Morpog_PC | hmmm, where is your image located? | 20:16 |
| locusf | Morpog_PC: I haven't got the slightest clue, I tried to "find" it but couldn't find anything | 20:16 |
| Morpog_PC | that sailfish one | 20:16 |
| Morpog_PC | lol | 20:16 |
| Morpog_PC | there is a default path, let me look | 20:17 |
| special | faenil: I accept pastries | 20:17 |
| faenil | special, deal! o/ | 20:17 |
| locusf | Morpog_PC: yes there is images/graphics-wallpaper-home.jpg | 20:17 |
| Morpog_PC | defaultValue: "images/graphics-wallpaper-home.jpg" | 20:17 |
| Morpog_PC | you had lipstick from sailfish on there? | 20:18 |
| locusf | Morpog_PC: yeah | 20:18 |
| Morpog_PC | then maybe that default image came from there | 20:18 |
| locusf | yep | 20:19 |
| Morpog_PC | hmmm, it's in a qrc I think | 20:21 |
| locusf | oh | 20:22 |
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| qwazix | faenil, reparenting all page components might not be a good idea (I really can't think a problem right now) but sometimes reparenting is completely confusing to dev | 20:27 |
| qwazix | elopers | 20:27 |
| qwazix | e.g. http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91059 | 20:27 |
| faenil | qwazix, ? | 20:27 |
| qwazix | faenil, I'm looking at your page code | 20:28 |
| faenil | qwazix, oh | 20:28 |
| faenil | qwazix, well, that pattern is often used in qml components toolkits | 20:28 |
| qwazix | yeah I know, but if we could avoid using it in such a big scope without too much mess it would be nicer | 20:29 |
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| faenil | you cannot really do that, unless you like doing something like: " data: [Item1, Item2] " | 20:29 |
| qwazix | there will be lots of times a developer will do randProperty: parent.randProperty inside a page and get an inexplicable exception | 20:29 |
| faenil | not inexplicable, if he reads documentation | 20:30 |
| faenil | the same happens for QML Flickable, just to make a very common example | 20:30 |
| faenil | docs clearly says not to use "parent" because it won't get you where you want | 20:30 |
| qwazix | :nod: but we also lose anchors of children to the page that way, do we want that? | 20:31 |
| faenil | why? | 20:31 |
| faenil | the items are just reparented to what the content area is | 20:31 |
| qwazix | anchors cannot be assigned to non-parents, non-siblings bla bla | 20:32 |
| faenil | in fact you assign it to your parent | 20:32 |
| faenil | which is the container of page's children | 20:32 |
| faenil | it's transparent to dev | 20:32 |
| qwazix | ok | 20:32 |
| faenil | qwazix, or if you like "data: [Item1 {} , Item2{ } ] more... | 20:33 |
| qwazix | I would still prefer to have it Page { content: blabla } } just for the code to be self explanatory instead of having to read the docs but anyway | 20:33 |
| faenil | qwazix, that way you still need a middle component, even Item, which will be what is actually the container | 20:34 |
| qwazix | the best solution would be ofc no need for intermediate Items but I suppose that's impossible | 20:34 |
| faenil | content: Item { stuff inside page } | 20:34 |
| * qwazix ponders that QML should allow to set the user-facing ` parent` property differently from the internal one | 20:35 | |
| faenil | nah | 20:35 |
| qwazix | Ok then, let's leave it as you've done it. You persuaded me :P | 20:36 |
| faenil | no no, think about something better ;) | 20:37 |
| faenil | I agree it's better to get rid of the confusion, I just can't see how without moving Toolbar to appwindow (as in qtcomponents) | 20:37 |
| faenil | which means it's only possible if Page's children are the only visual items you're laying out inside the window | 20:38 |
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| faenil | and moving toolbar to appwindow means changing logic of upstream Stackview | 20:41 |
| qwazix | I'm not sure if we discussed this again: if we have ToolbarLayout{ anchors.bottom: parent.bottom } | 20:42 |
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| qwazix | and then do Page{ ToolbarLayout {}} won't it stick to the bottom? | 20:42 |
| faenil | qwazix, are you referring to qtcomponents? | 20:42 |
| qwazix | no, imaginary controls | 20:43 |
| faenil | ToolbarLayout usually is the middle item we're talking about | 20:43 |
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| qwazix | yeah, anyway, let's call it Toolbar {} | 20:43 |
| qwazix | and as we are speaking for Glacier, let's say Toolbar is Toolbar { anchors.top: parent.top; width: parent.width} | 20:45 |
| qwazix | If when you include Toolbar in a page it keeps it's anchors (I don't remember if that happens), then we can get rid of `tools` property | 20:45 |
| qwazix | and just do pages like this: Page{ Toolbar{} Item1{} Item2{} } | 20:46 |
| faenil | of course that works, but it breaks headerdock if they don't anchor it correctly | 20:46 |
| qwazix | I suppose dev's can break things anyway if they want. | 20:47 |
| qwazix | Not sure if it makes sense protecting them from re-anchoring the toolbar | 20:48 |
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| faenil | that's always true, the trick is making is less trivial to break stuff | 20:48 |
| faenil | qwazix, what? what about all the headerdock logic? | 20:48 |
| qwazix | what about it? | 20:49 |
| faenil | you have to handle all the damn cases | 20:49 |
| faenil | if you allow people to move it | 20:49 |
| faenil | let* | 20:49 |
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| faenil | qwazix, what if they anchor it to bottom? | 20:50 |
| qwazix | no we don't want them to move it. We can just declare re-anchoring as unsupported but I don't know if this is worse than reparenting to be honest) | 20:50 |
| qwazix | or is it possible to lock properties down in qml? | 20:51 |
| faenil | ehehe | 20:51 |
| faenil | qwazix, well, not properties which you don't define :P (anchors) | 20:51 |
| qwazix | tough... | 20:52 |
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| qwazix | we can disable the dock if they anchor it at the wrong place | 20:53 |
| faenil | come on, seriously? :D | 20:54 |
| faenil | also, not sure detecting that case is trivial | 20:55 |
| qwazix | right... | 20:55 |
| faenil | (if it can be detected at all) | 20:55 |
| qwazix | It seems then there isn't any better solution | 20:57 |
| qwazix | (or at least I can't think about one) | 20:57 |
| faenil | well, the (don't know if better) solution is to move toolbar to appwindow, modify stackview and its logic to take care of setting tools taken from the page, just like qtcomponents do | 20:57 |
| faenil | which would shorten page loading time (and memory) because it doesn't have to create the toolbar but only its children | 20:58 |
| qwazix | it doesn't sound bad | 20:59 |
| qwazix | what's the catch? | 20:59 |
| faenil | qwazix, don't know if you noticed, but it's same reparenting thing in appwindow, where I reparent to the rotated item, which takes care of orientation handling | 21:00 |
| faenil | qwazix, it's not bad, it just needs responsibility of modifying upstream code and cherrypicking updates when QQC are updated | 21:00 |
| faenil | or bugs get fixed | 21:00 |
| qwazix | faenil, hadn't noticed, but that's mostly internal, so I wouldn't bother too much. It will be extremely rare one will have other things in appwindow and outside the page. | 21:01 |
| qwazix | (or reanchor the page, or appwindow for that matter) | 21:01 |
| qwazix | headerDock logic will be in the toolbar, or in appWindow? | 21:03 |
| faenil | toolbar is qqc toolbar | 21:03 |
| faenil | Page will have HeaderDock or something | 21:03 |
| faenil | you mean toolbar vs toolbar content maybe? | 21:04 |
| qwazix | hmm, then that page loading time difference might be important | 21:04 |
| faenil | well yeah, more important that it is at the moment | 21:04 |
| faenil | than at the moment* | 21:05 |
| qwazix | my hunch says that they will do that change for touch QQC upstream some time soon... | 21:05 |
| faenil | qwazix, ? | 21:07 |
| qwazix | just thinking that the current qqc implementation only fits the desktop and they might want to change that for android/iphone qqc | 21:08 |
| qwazix | but who knows | 21:08 |
| faenil | qwazix, yes, in January maybe? | 21:08 |
| qwazix | we can keep it as is for now, and follow upstream, if they change it | 21:09 |
| faenil | I don't like postponing such decisions, but yeah, there's not much we can do about this except taking the responsibility to keep it updated | 21:09 |
| qwazix | :nod: | 21:10 |
| faenil | qwazix, actually I could hack it without modifying stackview maybe | 21:10 |
| qwazix | btw can you please explain why ` __isNemoPage` is needed please? I think I lost the logic there | 21:10 |
| faenil | by changing the tools of the appwindow when the "top item of pagestack" changes | 21:11 |
| faenil | that may lead to visual bugs such as toolbar appearing after the page is already loaded | 21:11 |
| qwazix | hmm... that might work | 21:11 |
| faenil | or similar stuff, but if we accept that until upstream QQC do it | 21:12 |
| faenil | ... | 21:12 |
| qwazix | maybe watching the animation state will help? | 21:12 |
| faenil | qwazix, what do you mean | 21:12 |
| faenil | the issue is with the timing currentItem signal (which is the one regarding top of page stack) is fired | 21:13 |
| qwazix | isn't there a 'animating' state in the pageStack so that controls are locked while moving? | 21:13 |
| qwazix | watching that can tell you when the transition starts and ends, exactly | 21:14 |
| qwazix | so you can do your thing at that time | 21:14 |
| faenil | qwazix, that doesn't help if the currentItem property hasn't changed yet at that time | 21:14 |
| faenil | as we don't know what the new page is | 21:15 |
| qwazix | if you fade the toolbar contents out every time an animation starts | 21:15 |
| qwazix | and fade the new ones back in when the property has settled, it's an okay compromise | 21:15 |
| faenil | yes well that can limit the visual bug, but it's still there :) | 21:15 |
| faenil | yes | 21:15 |
| faenil | or it could also work without issues, has to be tested | 21:16 |
| qwazix | the visual bug is there even if you knew which is the next page | 21:16 |
| qwazix | because you can't slide the toolbar away as it's not part of the page | 21:16 |
| faenil | qwazix, the thing is we should do that change inside the push() function of stackview | 21:16 |
| faenil | qwazix, then how do you think qtcomponents did? ;) | 21:16 |
| qwazix | hmm... | 21:17 |
| qwazix | parallel animation? sounds tough to sync | 21:18 |
| faenil | qwazix, if you look closely, page and toolbars in qtcomponents have different animations ;) | 21:18 |
| faenil | qwazix, eh, magic always comes with a price | 21:18 |
| qwazix | indeed they have different animations. Hadn't noticed | 21:19 |
| faenil | qwazix, all stuff I learned while working on glacier ;) | 21:20 |
| qwazix | cool! | 21:20 |
| faenil | yup :) | 21:21 |
| qwazix | can't we create a wrapper for pageStack.push() ? | 21:21 |
| qwazix | which does our thing and then calls the push() ? | 21:21 |
| qwazix | (or is it that pageStack is ours anyway and I'm talking nonsense?) | 21:22 |
| faenil | qwazix, not sure that's doable | 21:22 |
| faenil | internal logic will use push anyway | 21:22 |
| faenil | so it will work only in some cases (this is if we don't touch upstream stackview) | 21:22 |
| qwazix | true | 21:24 |
| faenil | bb in 15mins | 21:24 |
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| faenil | qwazix, so.. | 21:40 |
| zbenjamin | yo guys ;) | 21:40 |
| faenil | yo | 21:41 |
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| zbenjamin | faenil: anything i missed? | 21:46 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, nah, discussing with qwazix about toolbar and qml stuff | 21:48 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: any new infos about the android driver? | 21:48 |
| zbenjamin | i guess i just have to try :/ i hope i don't fry my phone | 21:48 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, nope | 21:48 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: we should try this some time this week, maybe we can combine our minds ;) | 21:49 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, not sure I want to spend time on it | 21:50 |
| faenil | things look too messy | 21:50 |
| zbenjamin | you think android devices is the way to go? | 21:50 |
| faenil | and chance of success is very low, unless a lot of time is wasted on it | 21:50 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, definitely | 21:50 |
| zbenjamin | :/ i'll miss the n9 | 21:54 |
| zbenjamin | also i lack a free android device ... | 21:54 |
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| faenil | zbenjamin, same here... :( | 21:57 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: just in case, where can i grep the kernel source from? ;) | 21:57 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, n9 nemo kernel? | 21:57 |
| zbenjamin | would i need to build a complete image ? or can i just put the driver in the right directory and load it | 21:57 |
| zbenjamin | yeah | 21:57 |
| zbenjamin | https://github.com/nemomobile/kernel-adaptation-n950-n9 | 21:58 |
| zbenjamin | ? | 21:58 |
| faenil | I think putting the file would be enough, if it was glibc | 21:58 |
| faenil | but it's android -> bionic -> libhybris needed | 21:58 |
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| zbenjamin | yes, but there where two links on that page, a linux driver and a android driver | 21:59 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/AM35x-OMAP35x_Graphics_SDK_Getting_Started_Guide#Download_Information_for_TI_SGX_Graphics_SDK | 22:00 |
| faenil | didn't we need the android one because we're told it's more similar to wayland? | 22:00 |
| faenil | not sure android and linux here are just different builds, they may be completely different drivers | 22:01 |
| faenil | (not sure) | 22:01 |
| zbenjamin | true , but trying the linux one can not hurt too imho, at least we don't need bionic and hybris | 22:01 |
| zbenjamin | the driver has Null Window System (with Pixmap support) | 22:01 |
| zbenjamin | http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/RN_4_10_00_01 | 22:02 |
| zbenjamin | Front (1 buffer), Flip (chained buffers) | 22:02 |
| faenil | good luck :D hope you succeed | 22:03 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: but thats the correct driver right? i mean from looking at the devices it supports | 22:04 |
| faenil | don't know :( | 22:04 |
| faenil | good night people o/ | 22:09 |
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| dmol | Hello. I just tried to flash my n950 with moslo: http://bpaste.net/show/144374/ . It seems, that it didn't flashed moslo.img. Why so? | 22:46 |
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