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| vgrade | :) | 01:33 |
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| alterego | Hey vgrade | 01:35 |
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| niqt | morning | 06:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | morning niqt | 07:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | how are you ? | 07:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: morning :) | 07:03 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Joe_W: morning | 07:03 |
| fk_lx | morning | 07:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hi fk_lx ! | 07:05 |
| Joe_W | Hi guys | 07:06 |
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| fk_lx | Sfiet_Konstantin: hi | 07:08 |
| fk_lx | Joe_W: hi | 07:08 |
| niqt | Sfiet_Konstantin i'm fine, but busy it's been months and I still can not complete the new packagemanager | 07:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | niqt: oooh :( | 07:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | actually me too, but right now exams finished: so back to nemo | 07:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | fk_lx: I have seen veskuh's vid on smartdevcon | 07:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | very nice :) | 07:09 |
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| locusf | morning | 07:14 |
| locusf | Sfiet_Konstantin: I revamped trumpet again | 07:15 |
| * Sfiet_Konstantin will investigate QtQuick.Controls in 5.2 capabilities and posibility of backporting to Qt 5.1 | 07:15 | |
| locusf | https://github.com/locusf/qtquickcontrols-nemo/commit/b72b851c1471a08b4703898b28a5fbabd1dd1d95 | 07:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | canevas ? brillant | 07:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | will try it afterwards | 07:17 |
| locusf | ok | 07:17 |
| locusf | no transition code yet (animation) | 07:17 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | locusf: not an issue | 07:21 |
| locusf | the idea came from faenil | 07:21 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I think it is "easy" to fix with some animations | 07:22 |
| Hurrian | oh, hey, look, Sailfish SDK now has an ARM target | 07:22 |
| locusf | so thanks to him it has proceeded | 07:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Hurrian: means nothing | 07:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | because no ARM emulator | 07:22 |
| locusf | and no deploy to device | 07:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | BUT, we might have to investigate what kind of packages we have in the target | 07:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | volunteers ? | 07:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | "enum Qt::ScrollPhase: This enum was introduced or modified in QtCore 5.2." | 07:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :( | 07:23 |
| Hurrian | Sfiet_Konstantin: just saw the XDA video, currently trying to transplant the Sailfish Lipstick into Nemo. | 07:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Hurrian: right now ? | 07:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :O | 07:23 |
| locusf | wow ok :) | 07:23 |
| locusf | so community port then | 07:24 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | locusf: of a SDK ? :/ | 07:24 |
| Hurrian | actually, it might come to the point where I'd just throw the HW adaptation bits into the target, and attempt to boot it. | 07:24 |
| locusf | no, sailfish on n9 | 07:24 |
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| locusf | I didn't realize we had everything we needed | 07:25 |
| Hurrian | oh, yeah - Nemo UX gets updated to use Wayland if I do a zypper dup right now, right? | 07:26 |
| Hurrian | or is Wayland still problematic on N9/50? | 07:26 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Hurrian: no IIRC | 07:26 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Hurrian: IMO, the best is to install HW adaptation stuff, and try to install directly Sailfish packages | 07:27 |
| locusf | damnit I have an exam today, would have loved to try this out | 07:27 |
| Hurrian | well, let's see how far I get - first Sailfish Lipstick + Nemo, then Sailfish + N9/50 kernel, then Mer Core N9/50 + Sailfish bits. | 07:27 |
| Hurrian | i've got about a week and change free left, so let's do this. | 07:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | locusf: nono | 07:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | exam first | 07:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Hurrian: have fun | 07:30 |
| locusf | yeah :/ | 07:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and keep us updatred | 07:30 |
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| faenil | morning guys o/ | 08:00 |
| vgrade | morn | 08:03 |
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| faenil | vgrade, o/ how you doing :) | 08:04 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, so, exam gone? great! :) | 08:04 |
| faenil | locusf, good luck with yours! | 08:04 |
| vgrade | faenil: good thanks | 08:06 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: finally | 08:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | right now installing a ubuntu on a uefi computer | 08:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | such a pita | 08:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :/ | 08:08 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, just in time to review my latest PR! ahaha | 08:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hi vgrade ! | 08:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: :D | 08:09 |
| vgrade | Sfiet_Konstantin: \o | 08:09 |
| faenil | vgrade, good to hear :) | 08:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: give them | 08:09 |
| faenil | https://github.com/nemomobile/qtquickcontrols-nemo/pull/9 | 08:10 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: so +700 - 500 :O | 08:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | 32 files changed :O | 08:16 |
| faenil | :D | 08:16 |
| faenil | theme files, autogenerated stuff, there's a lot of things that don't need reviewing | 08:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ah yeah true | 08:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | there are stuff in autogenerated | 08:17 |
| faenil | I advice reviewing Page.qml and changes to AppWindow.qml | 08:17 |
| faenil | that's what matters | 08:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ok | 08:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | one sec | 08:17 |
| faenil | I advice doing first and second commit separated | 08:18 |
| faenil | because second one is just about updating touch gallery, it goes fast | 08:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ok | 08:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I should clone it and compile it ? | 08:18 |
| faenil | that's your choice | 08:19 |
| faenil | reviewing code is something already :) | 08:20 |
| zbenjamin | hey guye | 08:27 |
| zbenjamin | guys | 08:27 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hey zbenjamin | 08:30 |
| locusf | faenil: thanks | 08:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: can I review the code a bit afterwards ? | 08:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm a bit tired, and am trying to install an ubuntu on a uefi device | 08:31 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is horrible :O | 08:31 |
| faenil | ahaha | 08:31 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, o/ | 08:31 |
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| zbenjamin | faenil: hm? | 10:04 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, hm ? | 10:05 |
| zbenjamin | [25.10.2013][10:31:25] <faenil> zbenjamin, o/ | 10:05 |
| faenil | yeah, when you joined | 10:05 |
| zbenjamin | ah ;) | 10:05 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, I'm looking for someone to review https://github.com/nemomobile/qtquickcontrols-nemo/pull/9 | 10:16 |
| zbenjamin | i can have a look, but i'm not that fluent in qml | 10:17 |
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| zbenjamin | faenil: btw how is rotation support going? | 10:19 |
| zbenjamin | ;) | 10:19 |
| faenil | it's there already | 10:19 |
| zbenjamin | nice! | 10:21 |
| faenil | ;) | 10:23 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: you are setting no style here: https://github.com/nemomobile/qtquickcontrols-nemo/pull/9/files#diff-9b5891854204e8a4978c0c52452fa07eR84 | 10:26 |
| zbenjamin | is that what you want? | 10:26 |
| zbenjamin | also line 77 | 10:26 |
| zbenjamin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRrgWOCEDsI <<< nice to hear while programming | 10:28 |
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| faenil | zbenjamin, yes, style is set by default | 10:31 |
| faenil | the one which have style set are the ones showing "android" style, which come from the official gallery | 10:31 |
| zbenjamin | ah ok | 10:31 |
| faenil | I left in each page also one component with the style which came with the official gallery | 10:31 |
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| zbenjamin | faenil: added some comments | 10:47 |
| zbenjamin | but not much | 10:47 |
| faenil | yes thanks, replying ;) | 10:47 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: i meant for the initial value QScreen.PrimaryOrientation if page is null | 10:51 |
| zbenjamin | but right the allowed orientations ... | 10:51 |
| zbenjamin | and qApp already might have another orientation set | 10:51 |
| zbenjamin | err appWindow | 10:51 |
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| Hurrian | Anyone want to try running Nemofish? | 11:32 |
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| Stskeeps | if you guys are going to make videos of that, please put www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWQZJcEwEow , http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/endurance/graphs/1501_sched_iowait_1.png | 11:34 |
| Stskeeps | err... | 11:34 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYZedD11GtE along side, so it's clear that the lagginess is n9 driver issues, not that of the system | 11:35 |
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| fk_lx | Hurrian: what is Nemofish? | 11:36 |
| Hurrian | fk_lx: Sailfish Lipstick on top of Nemo. | 11:36 |
| jussi | hrm, sailfish lipstick.... is that tested on animals? :P | 11:37 |
| Eztran | Only fish, surely? | 11:37 |
| dm8tbr | 100% made out of recycled and bio degradeable electrons! | 11:38 |
| Eztran | Wow, green credentials right there. | 11:38 |
| Hurrian | http://goput.it/v/o75.jpg | 11:38 |
| Hurrian | etc/ssu.ini will need to be updated to that, new file ssu_jolla_release.repo in /etc/zypp/repos.d needs to be made | 11:39 |
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| Hurrian | then "zypper in lipstick-jolla-home-qt5". | 11:39 |
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| Hurrian | it should be missing a lot of the stock apps, you might find them poking around the jolla repo. | 11:41 |
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| Stskeeps | well, that's just the sdk repo | 11:42 |
| faenil | you think you'll find stock apps in sdk repo? :D | 11:42 |
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| zbenjamin | Nemofish??? | 11:43 |
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| Stskeeps | Hurrian: this is just releases.sailfishos.org it fetches from, i presume | 11:45 |
| zbenjamin | Stskeeps: so you think implementing that direct rendering idea won't change much? | 11:46 |
| Hurrian | yep, downloads from there. | 11:46 |
| Stskeeps | Hurrian: yep, no problem :) | 11:46 |
| Stskeeps | just got a mild heartattack from the urls listed ;) | 11:47 |
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| Hurrian | Stskeeps: confirmed - adding the repos and running zypper, my router logs the download from RSO ;) | 11:49 |
| Hurrian | oh, yeah, for everyone else working on this - it needs Wayland to run, right? | 11:50 |
| faenil | yup | 11:50 |
| Hurrian | welp, time to update my Nemo image | 11:50 |
| Stskeeps | yes, wayland only | 11:51 |
| faenil | Hurrian, be ready to be shocked by the performance | 11:51 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: lol | 11:51 |
| Stskeeps | zbenjamin: i'm not sure direct rendering would practically work with wayland as it's more like server side buffers | 11:51 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, I was too sad when I ran wayland, I'm trying to prevent that from happening in other people :D | 11:52 |
| faenil | to* | 11:52 |
| Hurrian | last Nemo image available's from... June :/ lots of packages to catch up to! | 11:52 |
| Hurrian | (unless you guys stashed the nightly builds somewhere else?) | 11:52 |
| zbenjamin | Stskeeps: then there is only the android driver left | 11:52 |
| faenil | Hurrian, nope, latest img is from last week | 11:53 |
| faenil | Hurrian, upgrading from x11 is not teste | 11:53 |
| faenil | tested | 11:53 |
| Hurrian | faenil: link? can't find them on releases.nemomobile | 11:53 |
| zbenjamin | Stskeeps: you got some time in the future to help me put that driver to work? | 11:53 |
| faenil | because they're not there :) | 11:53 |
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| Stskeeps | zbenjamin: i can't promise that :/ | 11:54 |
| Stskeeps | er, you mean the ti sgx | 11:54 |
| Stskeeps | on android | 11:54 |
| Stskeeps | yes, possibly | 11:54 |
| Stskeeps | there'll be instructions coming | 11:54 |
| zbenjamin | i meant making the android driver work on the n9 ... | 11:54 |
| Hurrian | faenil: where do I get the newest .tar.bz2's" | 11:54 |
| zbenjamin | remember we talked about it that it might be faster | 11:55 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, Stskeeps why should android drivers be optimized for wayland? | 11:55 |
| Stskeeps | faenil: well, because android gfx is much closer to wayland than to x11 | 11:55 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:55 |
| zbenjamin | hmmm, right it might suffer the same problem | 11:55 |
| zbenjamin | ha! ;) | 11:55 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, ok ;) | 11:56 |
| faenil | let's look for the latest omap3 android driver then :) | 11:56 |
| zbenjamin | lets make that phone fast again ;) | 11:57 |
| Stskeeps | one more video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FJkawb4xhA&feature=youtu.be | 11:58 |
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| locusf | nice | 12:09 |
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| locusf | Hurrian: https://db.tt/p0WfFPaK for latest nemo image | 12:15 |
| Hurrian | locusf: and downloading. thanks! | 12:15 |
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| Morpog_Mobile | Omg that sony | 12:24 |
| Stskeeps | looks good? | 12:24 |
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| Morpog_Mobile | http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vYZedD11GtE&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DvYZedD11GtE | 12:26 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Looks smooth | 12:26 |
| Stskeeps | of course, libhybris, wayland and sailfish | 12:27 |
| Stskeeps | naturally it's smooth | 12:27 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:27 |
| vgrade | :) | 12:27 |
| fk_lx | :-) | 12:27 |
| Morpog_Mobile | :) | 12:27 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: you're neglecting to mention how much blood/sweat/tears went into it :-) | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | yes, there's a lot of w00t's blood on it | 12:31 |
| fk_lx | hehe | 12:31 |
| fk_lx | please take kids out of this channel - images not suitable for them ;-) | 12:31 |
| dm8tbr | lipstic gore? | 12:33 |
| fk_lx | where is the reaper? | 12:34 |
| locusf | problems: http://pastie.org/8429608 | 12:35 |
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| Hurrian | locusf: hmm, need to add Jolla's certificate to the local store? | 12:41 |
| locusf | Hurrian: tried that too | 12:41 |
| locusf | Hurrian: /etc/ssl/cert/ ones | 12:42 |
| locusf | there are a couple of them | 12:42 |
| Hurrian | sure OpenSSL libs load them? | 12:42 |
| Hurrian | Jolla seems to make its own cert. | 12:42 |
| locusf | yeah | 12:42 |
| locusf | but note sure if they are loaded | 12:42 |
| locusf | how can I make sure? | 12:42 |
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| locusf | hmm I copied entire /etc/ssl/certs from sailfish emulator to N9 | 12:47 |
| locusf | worked ok but now it asks for username + password :p | 12:47 |
| Hurrian | locusf: fwiw, this is jolla's self-issued SSL pub: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=7X0HkW7U | 12:48 |
| locusf | Hurrian: yes | 12:51 |
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| Hurrian | locusf: ouch; hmm - try running 'while true; do cp *.rpm /; done' while installing lipstick inside the SDK | 13:00 |
| Hurrian | dig around in var/cache for the zypp directory, run the command in the 'jolla' subdirectory | 13:01 |
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| faenil | I'd say the phone in the video is a Sony Xperia L | 13:09 |
| faenil | which has almost same hw as The Jolla | 13:09 |
| faenil | vgrade, can you confirm it's an Xperia L? (asking you since you posted on twitter) | 13:15 |
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| vgrade | faenil: not mine I'm afraid, I'm working cubieboard2 but posted that as its related | 13:17 |
| faenil | oki soz :) | 13:17 |
| fk_lx | faenil: it was some other guy, also I think he has posted that on XDA | 13:18 |
| faenil | ah ok | 13:18 |
| faenil | holy crap I forgot there was a sailfish subforum on xda! | 13:19 |
| fk_lx | :-) | 13:19 |
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| * dm8tbr doesn't go anywhere near XDA. | 13:22 | |
| dm8tbr | you don't just walk into XDA | 13:23 |
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| locusf | Hurrian: good idea, will try | 13:27 |
| faenil | dm8tbr, what's wrong with xda? | 13:28 |
| dm8tbr | a) it's a forum | 13:28 |
| dm8tbr | and if that isn't enough: it's traditionally infested with people who think that binary patching things without explanation is a great thing | 13:29 |
| Hurrian | in a few days we'll have [ROM][LINARO][PARANOID][REMIX][KANG][UNOFFICIAL] SailfishROM for Android [CUSTOM][CWM][GCC4.8][SEEDER][SUPERCHARGED]! | 13:29 |
| dm8tbr | and if that's not enough: sources? for binaries that someone compiled with some magic incantation? | 13:29 |
| Hurrian | XDA is an 'okay | 13:30 |
| Hurrian | 'okay' developer hub for phones that due to their rapid release cycle don't get huge communities like the N7/8/109/00/50, but what craps it up is crappy rehash ROMs. | 13:31 |
| Hurrian | it got so bad that they split the subforums into "Android Development" and "Original Android Development" | 13:31 |
| locusf | hmm the packages are gone from the cache as soon as they are installed Hurrian | 13:33 |
| Hurrian | locusf: that's why you run the loop, to collect the RPMs as they appear | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | zypper has a --download-only too fwiw.. | 13:34 |
| locusf | Hurrian: there are too many subdirs | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | i think | 13:34 |
| Hurrian | Stskeeps: couldn't find mer-sdk-chroot in the SDK, so hacked up a kludge :P | 13:35 |
| Hurrian | locusf: cp ./*/*.rpm if you don't wanna pick just one subdir | 13:36 |
| locusf | Hurrian: ok | 13:36 |
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| locusf | hmm now I need to refresh my cache | 13:38 |
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| locusf | Hurrian: it didn't copy anything .. | 13:41 |
| locusf | Stskeeps: no --dry-run in sdk zypper :/ | 13:41 |
| Hurrian | locusf: I'll probably look at it again tomorrow | 13:42 |
| locusf | Hurrian: okay | 13:42 |
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| faenil | https://twitter.com/javispedro/status/393732774093279232 | 13:45 |
| faenil | anyone mind explaining background? | 13:46 |
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| Hurrian | faenil: they're used to the development model that went on for the Nx/xx series phones/tablets/NITs | 13:47 |
| faenil | I was on symbian at the times of Maemo.. | 13:47 |
| Hurrian | public betas would occasionally go out, but the final product was very much a surprise. | 13:48 |
| faenil | and what's wrong with that? | 13:48 |
| Hurrian | for example, The Jolla guts are a surprise. | 13:48 |
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| Stskeeps | fwiw sometimes 'not completely settled yet' is mistaken for 'big reveal' | 13:49 |
| Hurrian | well, there's that. | 13:49 |
| faenil | yeah | 13:50 |
| fk_lx | it's hard to announce sth if you don't have decided how it will look in the end | 13:50 |
| fk_lx | and there is nothing worse then announcing one thing and releasing another thing | 13:51 |
| faenil | yeahhh | 13:51 |
| Stskeeps | that said, big reveals always suck, but at same time, bad reveals suck too.. | 13:51 |
| Hurrian | Stskeeps: heh, anyone around here remember the N9/50 reveal? | 13:52 |
| Stskeeps | it's complex | 13:54 |
| Stskeeps | Hurrian: yeah.. and interesting thing is that harmattan was launched way earlier | 13:55 |
| Stskeeps | in terms of basic ideas | 13:55 |
| Stskeeps | of course life was nothing like that.. | 13:55 |
| Hurrian | as for javispedro's complaints, i'm pretty sure jolla can't just out their state tracker to the general public, so what gets pushed into mer and nemo are the best ideas we can get of what happens. | 13:55 |
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| Hurrian | Stskeeps: by and large, the mentality was "oh man, the RX-71/RM-696 is gonna get canned, the N900 is the last in line" | 13:56 |
| Stskeeps | i think i may have killed one product, but that's another story for my post-mortem memoirs.. | 13:56 |
| faenil | lol | 13:56 |
| alterego | Damnit, why can't people have better naming convensions. | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: hello ID-NUMBER-2442414121 | 13:57 |
| alterego | Exactly! | 13:57 |
| Aard | Hurrian: what we push in nemo should give you a pretty good idea of what happens (just minus ui-details, but most of that was shown anyway) | 13:57 |
| alterego | Otherwise you gets things like this: pkg-kernel-adaptation-lge-_ | 13:58 |
| dm8tbr | also I don't get javispedro's complaints about 'leaks'. that was jolla going into the community and telling them what they wanted to know. | 13:58 |
| Hurrian | Aard: yep, that plus the SDK should give people that want a head start enough headroom. | 13:59 |
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| * dm8tbr mumbles something about finally getting his a** up and porting SOWatch. The dbus-dumps from nemo middleware are getting stale. | 14:00 | |
| alterego | Maybe I need a better naming convention :) | 14:01 |
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| w00t | Hurrian: you can learn surprisingly much from watching the public stuff, if you look closely ;) | 14:13 |
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| faenil | bbl | 14:24 |
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| faenil | back | 15:01 |
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| mike7b4_on_x230 | when running mic I get: "error <repo>: Could not run transaction." whats that about? | 15:07 |
| faenil | :/ | 15:07 |
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| locusf | Hurrian: got the rpms harvested | 15:17 |
| locusf | next step: copy to N9 and install, then see wether everything works or not | 15:17 |
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| locusf | worked! | 15:24 |
| Hurrian | shoot a video! | 15:27 |
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| locusf | already did :) | 15:30 |
| locusf | wtf its uploading an old one, stupid android | 15:30 |
| locusf | ah false alarm | 15:30 |
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| locusf | Hurrian: thanks for the help | 15:31 |
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| faenil | sledges, I feel the pain in your arms :D | 15:34 |
| ryukafalz_ | I actually didn't know what libhybris really was until yesterday... heard it mentioned a few times in regards to Ubuntu Touch but never bothered to look it up. It's awesome. o.o | 15:35 |
| faenil | comes from this guy -----> Stskeeps | 15:36 |
| ryukafalz_ | Haha yeah I ran into his blog posts | 15:37 |
| ryukafalz_ | Thank you Stskeeps! :D | 15:37 |
| locusf | aww I need to show the rebooted version | 15:40 |
| locusf | its much better | 15:40 |
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| locusf | Sailfish running on N9 http://youtu.be/jr_yQwTUv3s | 16:05 |
| faenil | locusf, remember Stskeeps' advices | 16:06 |
| locusf | faenil: ? | 16:06 |
| faenil | link the video of sailfish running on another phone (i.e. the ones posted today) | 16:06 |
| faenil | e.g.* | 16:07 |
| faenil | and make it clear that n9 driver has perf issues | 16:07 |
| faenil | it's not sailfish | 16:07 |
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| Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYZedD11GtE and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYZedD11GtE fwiw -- just so it's not misunderstood as that sailfish has problems :) | 16:08 |
| locusf | Stskeeps: same video? | 16:09 |
| Stskeeps | err.. | 16:09 |
| faenil | locusf, also, showing Nemo apps on such video isn't the best idea... | 16:09 |
| Stskeeps | sorry, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FJkawb4xhA | 16:09 |
| Stskeeps | well, that part is fine, just remark it's sailfish homescreen on top of nemo :P | 16:09 |
| faenil | easy for people who have never seen sailfish to think that those are the apps present in sailfish at this time | 16:10 |
| locusf | ok check description | 16:10 |
| faenil | but if you say it's oka.. | 16:10 |
| Stskeeps | locusf: okay -- i'm just a bit afraid as i remember how meego got slaughtered in tech media so | 16:11 |
| Stskeeps | locusf: so i don't want us to suffer same fate :) | 16:11 |
| locusf | Stskeeps: sure, not intended on that :) | 16:11 |
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| Stskeeps | anyway, should okay now.. bit unhappy i have to click "show more" but that's about it | 16:14 |
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| Stskeeps | it's pretty clear to anybody seeing it that n9 sailfish isn't a product | 16:14 |
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| locusf | also updated title | 16:15 |
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| alterego | N9 is >4 y/o hardware | 16:35 |
| locusf | it runs very nicely IMO | 16:38 |
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| Morpog_PC | damn, seems my N7 just died...... would have been a great Nemo device in future | 16:45 |
| alterego | :( | 16:45 |
| alterego | I'm doing an N7 adaptation :( | 16:45 |
| Morpog_PC | opening backkcover now to see if unplugging battery helps | 16:46 |
| alterego | Eek, what did you do? | 16:46 |
| alterego | I would like a waterproof N7, that would be nice. | 16:47 |
| alterego | Maybe a ziplock bag will do. | 16:47 |
| faenil | locusf, homescreen runs nicely, like on Nemo | 16:47 |
| faenil | have you seen qmlnotes? | 16:47 |
| Morpog_PC | alterego, it rebooted while I used it | 16:48 |
| alterego | eek, what were you running? | 16:48 |
| Morpog_PC | then it came back with a distorting sound and flashing screen | 16:48 |
| Morpog_PC | I powered it off with a long press on power button | 16:49 |
| Morpog_PC | since then it was death | 16:49 |
| Morpog_PC | alterego, firefox | 16:49 |
| alterego | firefox os? | 16:49 |
| Morpog_PC | nope | 16:49 |
| Morpog_PC | stock android rooted | 16:49 |
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| Morpog_PC | and firefox browser | 16:49 |
| alterego | Hmm, sounds like what I have currently running on mine. | 16:50 |
| Morpog_PC | and irc in background | 16:50 |
| alterego | Though I've got a custom rescue image I use to back everything up. | 16:50 |
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| locusf | faenil: did you ask me? | 16:51 |
| alterego | Morpog_PC: I doubt it's software related, possibly CPU or RAM. | 16:51 |
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| alterego | The fact it doesn't get to any boot screen is very concerning :/ | 16:52 |
| Morpog_PC | I also think it's hardware | 16:52 |
| Morpog_PC | it often rebooted when it was loading on USB and when I moved the cable around | 16:52 |
| alterego | Heh | 16:53 |
| faenil | locusf, yes, in your video qmlnotes is like 1fps | 16:53 |
| locusf | faenil: yes | 16:53 |
| alterego | Well, even though I don't like Android, I like having a tablet. So I'm trying to set it up nicely :) | 16:53 |
| faenil | locusf, so, it doesn't run nicely, at all :P | 16:53 |
| faenil | that's why I said it wasn't a good idea to relate sailfish to that experience :P | 16:54 |
| alterego | And hybris means I can move my stuff between whatever android device I think looks pretty or is worth getting. | 16:54 |
| faenil | alterego, +1 | 16:54 |
| alterego | And even though I've got the basic 2012 wifi model, 16G I think, it's perfect as a thin client. | 16:55 |
| locusf | faenil: yes :p | 16:55 |
| Morpog_PC | yeah got the same model | 16:55 |
| alterego | Hmm, I think I've finally nailed this sink. | 16:55 |
| alterego | ~sync .. | 16:55 |
| Morpog_PC | wow, it shows loading battery symbol on USB \o/ | 16:55 |
| ryukafalz | alterego: Oh sweet you're doing a N7 adaptation? I just recently got one hoping for things like that :P | 16:55 |
| alterego | ryukafalz: I am doing a bit more than just that, but I only have N7 candidate hardware for my work :) | 16:56 |
| Morpog_PC | alterego, that video thp posted, was that based on work you did? | 16:56 |
| alterego | So any other android devices that can run CyanogenMod I'd like to help people get them running this stuff. | 16:56 |
| ryukafalz | Tried Ubuntu Touch but it's not all that impressive... Nemo looks closer to the old N810 that I loved so much :P | 16:57 |
| Morpog_PC | hmm, still doesn't power on | 16:57 |
| alterego | Morpog_PC: no, people have been working on their own adaptations singularly with the devices they have. I'm trying to batch build a set of kernels and initramfs' and minimal mer .ks files. | 16:57 |
| ryukafalz | Oh haha nice. And that is why I'm so happy libhybris exists haha | 16:57 |
| alterego | For as many android devices as I can. | 16:57 |
| alterego | I actually know of about 4 N7 adaptations, just do a search for tegra or nexus in obs :) | 16:59 |
| ryukafalz | So I'm curious... Ubuntu Touch doesn't have support for CDMA radios yet, is that also a problem for Nemo/Mer? Do you know if they're using similar software stacks? | 16:59 |
| alterego | ryukafalz: similar, but not identical. | 16:59 |
| alterego | ryukafalz: as far as I know we shouldn't have too much of an issue there. | 16:59 |
| alterego | Though that may need work in the audio routing department. | 16:59 |
| alterego | Data should be fine with any ril baseband though, hopefully ofono-ril works good :) | 17:00 |
| alterego | ryukafalz: And ubuntu does use ofono, do you have any details on ubuntu touch issues? | 17:01 |
| ryukafalz | Unfortunately no, I've asked in IRC at times but nobody there at the time knew why exactly it didn't work. Meant to post to the mailing list but I never got around to it | 17:02 |
| alterego | Oh well, I'll guess if we have issues we'll find out soon :) | 17:03 |
| Morpog_PC | interesting, it has a 4th button on the side not exposed to the outside | 17:04 |
| alterego | Erm, maybe it's a tamper button. | 17:05 |
| alterego | Don't push it, you might void your warranty! :D | 17:05 |
| Morpog_PC | lol, I voided it like 100 times already | 17:05 |
| ryukafalz | I have to leave, but are there any resources you could point me to for info about porting to other CyanogenMod-supported devices? I don't have much experience with ARM development or low-level Linux yet, but I'd like to learn. :) (And I'll have to probably anyway, I'll be taking an OS class next semester) | 17:05 |
| alterego | ryukafalz: just come back here, things are a bit thin as far as docs are concerned right now. | 17:05 |
| alterego | That will improve in time. | 17:06 |
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| alterego | But it's not a hard walk through exactly :) | 17:07 |
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| Morpog_PC | sledges, nothing worked :( | 17:54 |
| locusf | hmm native sailfish apps are slow | 17:56 |
| locusf | fortunately I didn't video those | 17:57 |
| faenil | ... | 17:57 |
| Morpog_PC | damn lockscreen wallpaper :/ | 17:58 |
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| mike7b4_on_x230 | its kinda ironic we cant get N9 run nemo/sail succefully and now see it on many android devices. dooh :/ (Dont get me wrong I know its driver issue and I have no clue how I can help fixit :/ | 18:14 |
| faenil | mike7b4_on_x230, yeah... | 18:17 |
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| Tofe | hi ! | 18:26 |
| alterego | Good evening :) | 18:26 |
| Tofe | I'm wondering, did you try yet to put maliit's keyboard windows somewhere else than at the bottom of the screen ? It looks like it's kind of hardcoded in maliit's inputmethod | 18:27 |
| Tofe | (because it works with the screen coordinates directly, not a parent window) | 18:27 |
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| qwazix | Nice to see sailfish home on the N9 | 18:29 |
| alterego | I've never really looked at maliit too closely. | 18:29 |
| qwazix | I still find that app launch animation tiring though. Same as on BBB10 | 18:30 |
| alterego | Yeah, would be much cooler if app loading animations played funky disco music and made the phone vibrate. | 18:30 |
| alterego | You know, did something a bit more exciting than a spinning wheel or whatever :) | 18:31 |
| Tofe | alterego: okay; well, I'll continue playing around with it, see if I find an idea other than modifying the inputmethod itself | 18:31 |
| alterego | I like the idea of rotating icons that bounce up and down, or dance. | 18:31 |
| alterego | I might try that in QML, when I finally get back to doing UI ... -_- | 18:31 |
| alterego | :) | 18:31 |
| qwazix | alterego, the thing I don't like is that the screen goes to the multitasking view and then zooms in | 18:32 |
| alterego | Ah... | 18:33 |
| qwazix | It's a two step animation that feels slow, and after a few days I just want to turn it off | 18:33 |
| alterego | I understand. | 18:33 |
| alterego | I like things to be quite simple too. | 18:33 |
| alterego | I actually ifnd using Android makes me feel really dizzy, because everything moves way too fast. | 18:34 |
| Morpog_PC | tofe, try to ask locusf | 18:34 |
| alterego | Maybe we should have a "transition speed" setting in settings ;) | 18:34 |
| qwazix | on symbian days, turning off the animations actually felt like overclocking... | 18:34 |
| Morpog_PC | qwazix, I'm doing some abstract default wallpapers in SVG, feel free to follow :) I'm pushing first two soon to nemo-artwork | 18:35 |
| alterego | Heh, I'm getting so sick of this PureView, can't wait for my Jolla. | 18:35 |
| alterego | I cracked the screen on Tuesday :/ | 18:36 |
| alterego | And it's so f'ing slooow. | 18:36 |
| alterego | Takes 20 seconds just to open an incoming message. | 18:36 |
| locusf | Tofe: I don't know | 18:36 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, speaking of abstract wallpapers :P http://play.qwazix.com/gallery/ | 18:37 |
| Tofe | locusf: ok :) | 18:37 |
| qwazix | though we could make a wallpaper competition | 18:38 |
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| Morpog_PC | oooh | 18:39 |
| alterego | qwazix: not sure about the first one, but the others are nice :) | 18:39 |
| Morpog_PC | qwazix, but those aren't in SVG? | 18:39 |
| qwazix | crap, why is the compositor bug back? Can we find the commit it was fixed? | 18:39 |
| alterego | It's when we find out they're all blured pictures of his favourite flower :) | 18:39 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, no, they weren't made for nemo, I was just playing the other day | 18:39 |
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| Morpog_PC | I try to do some with glacier colors | 18:39 |
| qwazix | though I don't really see the point to have svg wallpapers | 18:40 |
| qwazix | alterego, thanks | 18:40 |
| Morpog_PC | glacier bubbles: http://abload.de/img/wallpaper-bubblesj3pz6.png | 18:41 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, nice | 18:41 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, inkscape tweak tool ftw! | 18:43 |
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| qwazix | and spray tool too | 18:43 |
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| Morpog_PC | actually everything circles :) | 18:46 |
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| drachensun | vgrade: Just watched your demo, pretty nice | 19:07 |
| drachensun | I didn't realize they released the arm packages | 19:07 |
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| zbenjamin | Stskeeps: ping | 19:21 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: are you here? | 19:26 |
| faenil | yup | 19:26 |
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| zbenjamin | you know this thing? http://omappedia.org/wiki/Linux_OMAP_Kernel_Project | 19:26 |
| zbenjamin | darn just saw that omap3 is work in progress | 19:27 |
| fk_lx | zbenjamin: well wouldn't have any hopes with that -> page was last updated in 2011 | 19:28 |
| fk_lx | zbenjamin: http://omappedia.org/index.php?title=Linux_OMAP_Kernel_Project&action=history | 19:28 |
| zbenjamin | fk_lx: ok :( | 19:28 |
| fk_lx | * any -> many | 19:28 |
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| dm8tbr | omap3 has a reasonably stable sgx driver | 19:29 |
| zbenjamin | ew repos was last updated last changeTue, 15 Jun 2010 10:54:44 +0000 | 19:29 |
| dm8tbr | all you need is to make sure the glue code compiles for the kernel | 19:29 |
| dm8tbr | that's it | 19:29 |
| fk_lx | :-/ | 19:29 |
| dm8tbr | I made that work in the past by pounding the code with a sledge hammer | 19:29 |
| zbenjamin | dm8tbr: where can we grab that kernel from? | 19:29 |
| dm8tbr | so anybody can do it | 19:29 |
| zbenjamin | err driver | 19:29 |
| dm8tbr | n9 kernel | 19:29 |
| dm8tbr | driver, ti.com | 19:29 |
| dm8tbr | or look at where rowboat et al get their binaries from | 19:30 |
| zbenjamin | http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/OMAP3_GIT_Linux_Kernel | 19:30 |
| dm8tbr | it's some ginormous tarball | 19:30 |
| dm8tbr | wrong | 19:31 |
| dm8tbr | you don't want a kernel | 19:31 |
| dm8tbr | you HAVE a kernel | 19:31 |
| dm8tbr | and there is no chance of a snowball on the face of a sun, that you can make a different kernel work | 19:31 |
| dm8tbr | all you want are the SGX binaries and the kernel module glue code | 19:31 |
| faenil | there you go | 19:34 |
| faenil | https://gitorious.org/rowboat/hardware-ti-sgx/source/07e98bf04976a3488a291d6b27c0718bcd75a4f5:gfx_rel_es4.x_android | 19:34 |
| zbenjamin | http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Building_Qt_for_OMAP35xx_with_OpenGL_ES_accelerated_by_SGX | 19:34 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: how did you find that so fast? | 19:35 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, I've been looking for more info in the last hour ;) | 19:35 |
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| zbenjamin | http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/AM35x-OMAP35x_Graphics_SDK_Getting_Started_Guide | 19:38 |
| faenil | dm8tbr, so the kernel module is separated from the .so ? | 19:39 |
| faenil | I mean, does that mean we can use Android 4.3 SGX530 .so? | 19:40 |
| dm8tbr | the silicon in an N9 is 3630 | 19:40 |
| faenil | dm8tbr, should be 3430 | 19:40 |
| dm8tbr | no | 19:41 |
| dm8tbr | N900 was 3430 | 19:41 |
| faenil | dm8tbr, right, getting confused with another phone | 19:41 |
| faenil | dm8tbr, anyway gpu is SGX530, we know that | 19:41 |
| dm8tbr | I know more about omap3 than I ever wanted and it's mostly not because of Nokia | 19:41 |
| zbenjamin | so you are the guy who knows how we have to do this ;) | 19:42 |
| faenil | the link I pasted has Android 4.3 drivers for SGX530 | 19:42 |
| dm8tbr | I've been trying to tell you for the last couple of days... | 19:42 |
| faenil | so if that's not kernel dependent, it should be ok with libhybris | 19:42 |
| zbenjamin | what about this stuff: http://software-dl.ti.com/dsps/dsps_public_sw/sdo_sb/targetcontent/gfxsdk/latest/index_FDS.html | 19:42 |
| dm8tbr | and the drivers are ES4.x | 19:42 |
| dm8tbr | not 4.3 | 19:42 |
| dm8tbr | same thing | 19:43 |
| faenil | dm8tbr, yes but check the commits, and the branch, it's updated to Android 4.3 | 19:43 |
| dm8tbr | *sigh* that's not really relevant here | 19:44 |
| dm8tbr | all you want is an ES4 binary set | 19:44 |
| zbenjamin | dm8tbr: you have to be patient with us kernel noobs ;) | 19:44 |
| dm8tbr | it contains kernel module source | 19:44 |
| dm8tbr | then you have to somehow make this stuff match the N9 kernel | 19:44 |
| faenil | yes we got that, but I see no source here | 19:45 |
| dm8tbr | once you accomplish that, it will magically work | 19:45 |
| dm8tbr | did you unpack the SDK? | 19:45 |
| faenil | I meant in the git repo | 19:45 |
| dm8tbr | what did I say about git repos? | 19:45 |
| dm8tbr | screw git repos | 19:45 |
| faenil | ahah | 19:46 |
| dm8tbr | you want that GFX SDK | 19:46 |
| dm8tbr | full. stop. | 19:46 |
| zbenjamin | http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/AM35x-OMAP35x_Graphics_SDK_Getting_Started_Guide | 19:46 |
| zbenjamin | that one | 19:46 |
| faenil | when did you say that? :D | 19:46 |
| zbenjamin | ? | 19:46 |
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| faenil | zbenjamin, Graphics SDK | 19:48 |
| zbenjamin | yes? thats a graphics sdk ... ;) | 19:48 |
| zbenjamin | closed source linux drivers suck | 19:49 |
| zbenjamin | is he gone now? | 19:50 |
| * zbenjamin is confudes | 19:50 | |
| zbenjamin | confused | 19:50 |
| Stskeeps | but yes, they do | 19:50 |
| Stskeeps | the only blessed part about android is that at least they keep a common api :P | 19:50 |
| Stskeeps | for the most part | 19:50 |
| zbenjamin | Stskeeps: heya | 19:50 |
| Stskeeps | sorry, busy evening up till now | 19:51 |
| zbenjamin | np | 19:51 |
| zbenjamin | i wonder if we maybe just can use this : http://software-dl.ti.com/dsps/dsps_public_sw/sdo_sb/targetcontent/gfxsdk/latest/index_FDS.html | 19:51 |
| zbenjamin | the page says the sdk comes with the driver | 19:51 |
| qwazix | random question: I remember meego could upgrade a kernel while running, can we still do that? | 19:52 |
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| Stskeeps | as in it upgrades, then you reboot into it..? | 19:52 |
| qwazix | no, I clearly remember running Meego on the Dell Mini 9 losing WiFi without reboot during upgrade because no wifi driver for the new kernel | 19:53 |
| qwazix | I don't know how it did that | 19:53 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps just bad packaging | 19:53 |
| zbenjamin | qwazix: wut? | 19:53 |
| qwazix | hmm... | 19:54 |
| dm8tbr | probably replaced firmware | 19:54 |
| dm8tbr | and incompatible | 19:54 |
| qwazix | maybe. Though rebooting into the old kernel via bootloaded still had wifi | 19:54 |
| qwazix | stupid noob question warning: can't it be done with kexec? | 19:55 |
| dm8tbr | that's sort of booting a new kernel though | 19:56 |
| ZogG_laptop | \o everyone | 19:56 |
| dm8tbr | with the additional risk of all hell breaking loose | 19:56 |
| qwazix | hi ZogG_laptop | 19:56 |
| qwazix | dm8tbr, I suppose it can't be done with the user session intact... | 19:56 |
| dm8tbr | nope | 19:57 |
| zbenjamin | ZogG_laptop: hey | 19:57 |
| qwazix | hmm, then it was probably something along the lines of bad packaging or firmware update | 19:57 |
| qwazix | thanks, one learns something every day :) | 19:58 |
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| zbenjamin | dm8tbr: so --- are you still with us on the task? ;) | 20:05 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: any idea how we continue with that? | 20:23 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: i think that sdk may look promising | 20:23 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, dunno.. | 20:25 |
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| Morpog_Mobile | Yay, my N7 is alive! | 21:06 |
| alterego | woo! | 21:11 |
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| lbt | where is lipstick's platform configured? | 21:14 |
| lbt | as in : Failed to load platform plugin "xcb". | 21:15 |
| ZogG_laptop | N7? | 21:20 |
| ZogG_laptop | faenil: o/ | 21:21 |
| faenil | hey | 21:21 |
| ZogG_laptop | sup | 21:21 |
| faenil | Morpog_Mobile, yay! | 21:21 |
| ZogG_laptop | fk_lx: ._. | 21:21 |
| ZogG_laptop | what is N7? | 21:21 |
| faenil | ZogG_laptop, going out in 20 mins :) | 21:21 |
| faenil | lbt, lipstick as in homescreen or lipstick lib | 21:22 |
| lbt | homescreen | 21:22 |
| faenil | lbt, /var/lib/environment/compositor/ | 21:22 |
| lbt | no such dir | 21:23 |
| ZogG_laptop | faenil: yaa, paaaaaaarty | 21:23 |
| faenil | lbt, the dir is correct, and it's there both on Sailfish and Nemo, if you're on wayland, taht is | 21:24 |
| lbt | hmmm .. what provides it ? | 21:24 |
| faenil | device specifig configs pacakges | 21:24 |
| lbt | nemo-complete-wayland is installed | 21:24 |
| lbt | ok, makes sense - I need to find one then | 21:25 |
| faenil | and also nemo-mobile-session | 21:25 |
| faenil | something like that | 21:25 |
| faenil | nemo-configs-n950-n9-wayland | 21:25 |
| lbt | nemo-mobile-session-wayland provides /var/lib/environment/nemo/50-nemo-mobile-wayland.conf | 21:26 |
| faenil | yeah, ^ | 21:26 |
| faenil | device specific package has compositor conf | 21:26 |
| faenil | e.g. https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-configs-n950-n9/tree/master/conf | 21:27 |
| faenil | https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-configs-n950-n9/blob/master/conf/60-n9-n950-ui.conf | 21:27 |
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| lbt | faenil: do yo mean literally compositor.conf? or is it now handled by the environment/nemo/*conf files ? | 21:29 |
| faenil | see my last link | 21:29 |
| lbt | ok | 21:30 |
| faenil | lbt, lipstick service has EnvironmentFile=/var/lib/environment/compositor/* | 21:30 |
| faenil | something like that | 21:30 |
| faenil | lbt, https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick-colorful-home/blob/qt5/rpm/lipstick.service | 21:31 |
| lbt | ok so the packaging would probably have dropped them in that dir | 21:33 |
| lbt | I just love when you have to follow a breadcrumb trail | 21:33 |
| faenil | lbt, well, which device are you on? | 21:34 |
| lbt | nexus 4 | 21:34 |
| faenil | don't know what the configs package is for that one | 21:34 |
| faenil | it's not on official nemomobile repo afaik anyway | 21:34 |
| lbt | I think that's now my job :) | 21:34 |
| faenil | :) just take the file from n950, should be 90% same :) | 21:35 |
| faenil | except last 2 lines | 21:35 |
| alterego | lbt: might have some new mer-tools for tomorrow :) | 21:43 |
| faenil | cya tomorrow guys :) going out o/ | 21:44 |
| lbt | alterego: sounds interesting | 21:53 |
| w00t | lbt: keep in mind that we have seperate configs for jolla | 21:56 |
| alterego | https://github.com/tswindell/kernel-adaptations | 21:58 |
| alterego | lbt, the scripts aren't quite finished yet. But coming along. | 21:58 |
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| alterego | Fixing the script to be a bit more bandwidth friendly when specifying a specific device, and I've not quite finished the publishing script. | 21:59 |
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| alterego | Grr, hate their broken repositories .. | 22:04 |
| alterego | One final run through, then it's on to getting the packaging correct again. | 22:05 |
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| Wizzup | oops... grrr | 23:21 |
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