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| zbenjamin | interesting thing, fingerterm rotates, but the nemo example does not | 00:39 |
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| Sage | w00t: https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-ssu-repos | 06:08 |
| timoph | interesting. I seems to have managed to wipe all partitions from my n950 | 06:10 |
| timoph | "Disk /dev/mmcblk0 doesn't contain a valid partition table | 06:10 |
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| timoph | does it need to have all the partitions or can I just create one and slap nemo into it? | 06:11 |
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| faenil | moaning | 08:39 |
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| faenil | zbenjamin, have you changed contentOrietnation? | 08:40 |
| zbenjamin | hm? no i did not, i registered to the rotation events | 08:40 |
| faenil | then do that :) | 08:41 |
| zbenjamin | i think we should have a easier way to do that ;) on one place | 08:41 |
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| faenil | zbenjamin, easier than what | 08:42 |
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| zbenjamin | well for example, ubuntu touch has one property to set to make rotation work | 08:43 |
| faenil | in QML? | 08:43 |
| zbenjamin | automaticOrientation or something like that | 08:43 |
| zbenjamin | yes | 08:43 |
| faenil | and we have contentOrientationj | 08:43 |
| faenil | which is from official QtQuickControls | 08:43 |
| zbenjamin | to what should i set it to? | 08:44 |
| zbenjamin | ah now i see , i have to set it from the outside | 08:45 |
| faenil | contentOrientation: Screen.orientation | 08:46 |
| faenil | as easy as that | 08:47 |
| zbenjamin | dang ;) | 08:47 |
| faenil | rotates? :) | 08:47 |
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| zbenjamin | didn't know there was a QScreen representation in qml | 08:47 |
| faenil | :) | 08:47 |
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| zbenjamin | patience i need to compile first | 08:47 |
| faenil | qq2 | 08:47 |
| zbenjamin | but i still have to call setOrientationUpdateMask? | 08:49 |
| zbenjamin | or should that just work | 08:49 |
| faenil | you need setorientupdatemask | 08:49 |
| faenil | because otherwise Screen.orientation doesn't change | 08:49 |
| faenil | remember? :) | 08:49 |
| zbenjamin | yeah i know thats why i ask, maybe you called it already somewhere in your code | 08:50 |
| faenil | nope | 08:51 |
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| zbenjamin | does not rotate | 08:55 |
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| faenil | connect to Screen.orientation and see if that changes | 08:59 |
| faenil | anyway, https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/saucy/view/head:/modules/Ubuntu/Components/OrientationHelper.qml#L100 | 09:01 |
| faenil | since you were talking about ubuntu touch doing things differently :) | 09:01 |
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| zbenjamin | hm there is a automaticOrientation property in MainView in ubuntu touch , but not yet documented it seems, setting it will handle the rest | 09:05 |
| faenil | yes, that's what I pointed to | 09:06 |
| faenil | it just uses Screen.orientatio | 09:06 |
| zbenjamin | i was talking about making it easier for the enduser , not for us ;) | 09:07 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, yeah well, if we introduce NemoQmlApp class we can wrap that in default settings | 09:08 |
| faenil | (setorientupdatemask) | 09:08 |
| zbenjamin | yeah | 09:08 |
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| zbenjamin | seems it does not change :( | 09:11 |
| zbenjamin | gna QML Connections: Cannot assign to non-existent property "onCurrentOrientationChanged" | 09:11 |
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| zbenjamin | faenil: i can not connect to the property .... | 09:19 |
| * zbenjamin tries something | 09:19 | |
| zbenjamin | silly me its a attached property .... | 09:23 |
| faenil | yep | 09:24 |
| * zbenjamin did not use qml that often | 09:24 | |
| zbenjamin | yet | 09:24 |
| faenil | np :) | 09:24 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: weird i always get QQmlApplicationEnginePrivate::_q_finishLoad:126 - qrc:/main.qml:57 Cannot assign to non-existent property "onCurrentOrientationChanged" | 09:39 |
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| faenil | zbenjamin, code? | 09:44 |
| zbenjamin | Screen.onCurrentOrientationChanged: { console.log("Orientation changed"); } | 09:47 |
| faenil | screen doesn't have a currentOrientation property.. | 09:50 |
| faenil | Screen has orientation | 09:50 |
| faenil | and AppWindow has currentOrientation | 09:50 |
| zbenjamin | ...... no comment ..... | 09:52 |
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| faenil | zbenjamin, M) | 09:53 |
| faenil | :) | 09:53 |
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| faenil | qwazix, when you're available.. | 09:55 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: ok at least the signal works now, but still no rotation ... | 09:58 |
| zbenjamin | i'll try to set the property in the signal handler | 09:58 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, what are you monitoring? | 09:58 |
| zbenjamin | the Screen.orientation property | 09:58 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: sorry, not working | 10:01 |
| zbenjamin | i still wonder why fingerterm works, what is it doing differently | 10:01 |
| zbenjamin | it uses PageStack as toplevel window | 10:01 |
| zbenjamin | PageStackWindow | 10:02 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, fingerterm uses Qt compoennts | 10:02 |
| faenil | the gallery you're testing now uses QtQuickControls | 10:03 |
| faenil | they're different toolkits | 10:03 |
| zbenjamin | ah ok | 10:04 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, so, Screen.orientation changes? | 10:05 |
| zbenjamin | yes | 10:05 |
| faenil | ah great! | 10:05 |
| faenil | so try onCurrentOrientationChanged in the appwindow of the gallery | 10:05 |
| faenil | and see if that changes as well | 10:06 |
| zbenjamin | but even with contentOrientation: Screen.orientation the ui does not | 10:06 |
| zbenjamin | ok but that has to wait until later ;) i still have payed work to do | 10:06 |
| faenil | it's 2 secs :D | 10:06 |
| zbenjamin | hmpf | 10:07 |
| zbenjamin | what gallery? | 10:07 |
| faenil | the one you're working on | 10:07 |
| faenil | the touch example | 10:07 |
| zbenjamin | this is already the touch examples main window | 10:08 |
| faenil | you said you're monitoring Screen.orientation | 10:08 |
| faenil | I said, try monitoring currentOrientation | 10:08 |
| zbenjamin | aaa ok now i get it | 10:08 |
| zbenjamin | sorry | 10:08 |
| faenil | np :) | 10:08 |
| zbenjamin | do i need to set currentOrientation or contentOrientation? | 10:09 |
| faenil | contentOrientation | 10:09 |
| faenil | oh ffff... | 10:09 |
| faenil | does it also have currentOrientation? | 10:09 |
| faenil | I think contentOrientation is the only one | 10:09 |
| zbenjamin | i used contentOrientation | 10:09 |
| sledges | no, it's you who invented it faenil :) | 10:10 |
| faenil | sledges, ah ok | 10:10 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, yeah I just mistyped | 10:10 |
| zbenjamin | ok | 10:10 |
| sledges | (`/lastlog currentO` ;) ) | 10:10 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, did you fix all the stuff in the PR? | 10:11 |
| zbenjamin | i think yes | 10:11 |
| zbenjamin | oh i did not set a rate for the sensor, because i have no idea what rate. | 10:11 |
| zbenjamin | its working without the rate ... | 10:11 |
| sledges | PR is blocked by Sage not accepting -sensorfw in the -mx pattern ;) | 10:12 |
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| sledges | *mw | 10:12 |
| w00t | sledges: which pattern is it? | 10:13 |
| sledges | w00t: ^ | 10:13 |
| w00t | nemo-mw? | 10:13 |
| sledges | yes | 10:13 |
| sledges | clash clash? :)) | 10:13 |
| w00t | Sage: are you happy for others to approve nemo pattern changes? | 10:13 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: yes it changes | 10:13 |
| sledges | zbenjamin: \o/ | 10:13 |
| faenil | sledges, nope, just property changes | 10:14 |
| faenil | UI does not | 10:14 |
| sledges | but that's half way there ;) | 10:14 |
| faenil | yeah, but that means we don't have the orientation handling we hoped QQC already provided | 10:14 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, ok, thanks | 10:14 |
| zbenjamin | np ;) | 10:14 |
| sledges | faenil: that really means half way then :{ | 10:15 |
| faenil | I don't understand...changing it changed the UI in my gallery | 10:15 |
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| zbenjamin | and ubuntu also uses it... | 10:15 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, nope, they just use Screen.orientation, but they do rotation with OrientationHelper, which just sets rotation property | 10:16 |
| faenil | and all items inside that one are rotated | 10:16 |
| zbenjamin | hmm | 10:16 |
| zbenjamin | thats what i do: http://pastebin.com/UDZXuzTc | 10:16 |
| zbenjamin | just to make sure i do not oversee something have a look at it pls | 10:16 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: did you try to set it on the fly? or just changed it in sourcecode and rerun? | 10:17 |
| faenil | don't see anything wrong, except doubleassignment | 10:17 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, changed it in src | 10:18 |
| zbenjamin | maybe its not monitored | 10:18 |
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| faenil | it doesn't even change if change from src on desktop... mmm | 10:21 |
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| faenil | so w00t is looking into the pattern thing? | 10:24 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: maybe the window manager is only reading it when creating the window for the first time? | 10:25 |
| zbenjamin | means we need to tell the wm it changed? | 10:25 |
| faenil | don't know... | 10:25 |
| faenil | maybe I'm misremembering and that never worked | 10:25 |
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| faenil | aknight, ping | 10:29 |
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| w00t | he's at devdays | 10:44 |
| faenil | w00t, oh, cool :) thanks | 10:45 |
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| faenil | zbenjamin, also,when you have some spare time ;) https://github.com/nemomobile/qt-components/pull/12 | 10:55 |
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| Sage | w00t: yes | 11:29 |
| Sage | w00t: give e.g. sledges access to do so :) | 11:29 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | anyone here ? | 12:45 |
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| Stskeepz | mm? | 12:47 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | usually there is faenil and other people | 12:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | today noone :( | 12:50 |
| sledges | yesone :) | 12:52 |
| * w00t is sort-of-hovering as always | 12:52 | |
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| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, hey :P gimme time for lunch :P | 12:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: ah :D | 12:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: lunching a bit late :D | 12:53 |
| alterego | Mmmmm lunch | 12:53 |
| * sledges haven'Åt had one | 12:54 | |
| * Sfiet_Konstantin opens nemo session in QtCreator | 12:54 | |
| * faenil gets back to toolbar | 12:54 | |
| * Sfiet_Konstantin takes a deep breath and ... trumpet | 12:55 | |
| qwazix | faenil, ping | 12:55 |
| faenil | ahaha :) | 12:55 |
| faenil | qwazix, hey | 12:55 |
| qwazix | disclaimer: didn't read backlog | 12:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hi qwazix | 12:55 |
| qwazix | hi Sfiet_Konstantin | 12:56 |
| faenil | qwazix, so, turns out we have to do orientation client-side | 12:56 |
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| faenil | because contentOrientation of QtQuickControls actually doesn't do anything we're interested in (almost) | 12:56 |
| qwazix | faenil, ok, let's do it smart though | 12:58 |
| qwazix | i.e. the user should not see unnecessary rotations like harmattan or bb10 | 12:59 |
| faenil | qwazix, I guess that stuff will come later | 13:00 |
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| faenil | as it needs links to the mw Iguess | 13:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: yeah | 13:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | working sensors ? | 13:01 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, sensors are working already | 13:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | qwazix: right, since you are here, how do you handle a 100% + trumpet ? | 13:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: oh ? | 13:01 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, ? | 13:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: just surprised | 13:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | good news | 13:03 |
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| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, we just need rotation handling in QQC | 13:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: ok :) | 13:03 |
| faenil | and I like the way Ubuntu Touch does that | 13:03 |
| faenil | so I'm going to take inspiration from that :) | 13:03 |
| alterego | God damn this coffee is good. | 13:03 |
| faenil | qtcomponents are like wtf | 13:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: how ubuntu touch to dhat ? | 13:04 |
| sandy_locke | hi guys | 13:04 |
| alterego | Should the compositor not do rotation? | 13:04 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/saucy/view/head:/modules/Ubuntu/Components/OrientationHelper.qml | 13:04 |
| faenil | alterego, ? | 13:05 |
| sandy_locke | qwazix, I've got what I suggested you the other day, for you to review :) | 13:05 |
| alterego | Maybe have a flag set in QQC to mark a window as non-rotatable? | 13:05 |
| alterego | mebbe | 13:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: plain QML code | 13:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | looks ok | 13:05 |
| faenil | yep | 13:05 |
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| * w00t did sort of note that they weren't really very mature :p | 13:05 | |
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| faenil | w00t, they've got NOTHING mobile :( | 13:06 |
| alterego | After using Android on the N7 quite a bit, the rotation handling on that, and especially VKB just seems to be implemented really badly. | 13:06 |
| faenil | but if we want to wait for QQC to have something mobile, we have to wait until Dec/Jan or so... | 13:07 |
| sandy_locke | faenil, what's QQC ? | 13:07 |
| faenil | qtquickcontrols | 13:07 |
| sandy_locke | ok | 13:07 |
| faenil | i.e. Qt5's official QML UI components | 13:08 |
| faenil | the ones we're styling to create Nemo components | 13:08 |
| sandy_locke | still not available for mobile environments ? | 13:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | we need to have rotation with vkb implemented like in WP | 13:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | they first hide the kbd, then rotate, then pop the kbd again | 13:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is quite smooth | 13:08 |
| faenil | yes, you can run those on iOS and Android (even if they currently crash on Android), but with Desktop styling... | 13:08 |
| sandy_locke | Sfiet_Konstantin, what's the behavior right now ? | 13:09 |
| qwazix | Sfiet_Konstantin, I was thinking something silly. Why not use QML for the themes? Use the built in parser to create the corresponding c++ objects and never draw them. | 13:09 |
| qwazix | It has much better syntax than json and also supports comments | 13:09 |
| alterego | Stskeepz: your nick is wrong :P | 13:09 |
| faenil | sandy_locke, and they miss components which are usually mobile specific, such as Page, orientation handling, bla bla bla | 13:09 |
| alterego | How am I meant to PM your with a nick like that ... :D | 13:09 |
| Stskeepz | alterego: i'm wrong today :( | 13:09 |
| alterego | Awwww, :) | 13:09 |
| alterego | How's the bambino? | 13:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | qwazix: I won't risk myself in using QML parser, I know nothing about it :( | 13:09 |
| faenil | qwazix, me likes it | 13:09 |
| Stskeepz | alterego: good, i'm however sick | 13:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | qwazix: but you have a point | 13:10 |
| alterego | Oh no! Nothing serious I hope? Seems like everyone is dropping like flies around me at the moment. | 13:10 |
| alterego | I however seem to be invincible :) | 13:10 |
| Stskeepz | alterego: just usual fall stuff | 13:10 |
| alterego | Yeah | 13:10 |
| faenil | everyone's sick in Italy as well | 13:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | qwazix: I can think about it + tinker a bit, and might propose a patch to replace all my mess then | 13:10 |
| faenil | but just like alterego, I'm superman | 13:10 |
| sandy_locke | hey qwazix: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53739998/progressbar_mockup_animated.gif | 13:11 |
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| faenil | who thinks nemo shouldn't shutdown while charging? o/ | 13:14 |
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| sledges | o_O | 13:14 |
| sandy_locke | faenil, what are the plans of use for nemo as a mainstream os ? | 13:15 |
| faenil | sledges, battery is empty, I boot it and connect to charger, and it shuts down | 13:15 |
| faenil | sandy_locke, will it ever become mainstream os? | 13:15 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: if we fight hard enough ? | 13:15 |
| alterego | faenil: I have a weakness like all super heroes though, and that is steak. | 13:15 |
| sandy_locke | ^^dunno but it can be | 13:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and with jolla guys doing HW adaptation work to port it on android | 13:15 |
| faenil | alterego, mine is pizza....god..... :Q___ | 13:15 |
| alterego | :) | 13:16 |
| sandy_locke | just need to have a good roadmap and gather public interest | 13:16 |
| faenil | sandy_locke, eh...yes | 13:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | pizza | 13:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | my greatest weakness (and faenil might know it) is french fries | 13:16 |
| sandy_locke | if jolla release source codes, will they be implementable in nemo ? | 13:16 |
| alterego | Hmmm, I have a couple of cold slices in the fridge. | 13:17 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, remember in Helsinki?? :Q_:_- | 13:17 |
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| alterego | Might have to make a trip to the kitchen. | 13:17 |
| faenil | sandy_locke, "they" what? | 13:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: Helsinki was a good memory | 13:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 13:17 |
| sandy_locke | faenil, the sources, will they fit into nemo ? | 13:17 |
| sandy_locke | the android layer for instance | 13:17 |
| faenil | sandy_locke, the only closed parts of Jolla are the UI parts | 13:17 |
| faenil | the android layer is open already | 13:18 |
| faenil | oh you mean the android applications layer | 13:18 |
| sandy_locke | hmm, didn't know that | 13:18 |
| sandy_locke | yes | 13:18 |
| alterego | UI and android runtime. | 13:18 |
| faenil | that's by Myriad I think | 13:18 |
| faenil | so I don't think it will ever be open | 13:18 |
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| sandy_locke | arf | 13:18 |
| alterego | Yes, was originally developed for MeeGo, they never released it for N9, good job for them Jolla came along I guess. | 13:18 |
| sandy_locke | the n9 didn't receive the love it deserved :( | 13:18 |
| alterego | Well, it did by us :) | 13:19 |
| sandy_locke | yes ^^ | 13:19 |
| sandy_locke | but it should be the trendy os of those days ;) | 13:19 |
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| sandy_locke | now all competitors copy bit by bit what they saw and everyone forget about meego | 13:19 |
| sandy_locke | and apple / google get all the credits | 13:20 |
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| sandy_locke | apple with their "revolutions" they make me laugh | 13:20 |
| sledges | open source community could have their own version of android apps ACL | 13:21 |
| alterego | To me, revolution just means moving around in a circle ;) | 13:21 |
| sledges | and finally have it open | 13:21 |
| alterego | Not much progress chasing your own tail .. | 13:21 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I guess that I need to hack the slider to have a custom slider | 13:21 |
| alterego | Might be one of their biggest problems, real innovation is acheived through competition and races. Not running around like a dog chasing your own tail :) | 13:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | the upstream one is impossible to hack | 13:22 |
| sledges | imagine running android apps in nemo ;) | 13:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: modify surface flinger to pipe it through wayland | 13:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | using libhybris ? | 13:22 |
| sledges | Sfiet_Konstantin: not talking about implementation details (yet) :D) | 13:22 |
| alterego | sledges: unfortunately, that will not be something we can do. People that own a Jolla device could probably do it. But there's no way we can distribute myriad runtime. | 13:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: more about dreaming | 13:22 |
| sledges | we write our own | 13:23 |
| sledges | yes, more about an idea and if there's a traction around it Sfiet_Konstantin | 13:23 |
| alterego | Sfiet_Konstantin: libhybris wont ever be that. Though maybe someone could work on their own. Or maybe we could even port davlik ourselves? | 13:23 |
| alterego | But I doubt it's an easy task. | 13:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | alterego: it is about basing on libhybris | 13:23 |
| sledges | just pipe android out through to the framebuffer | 13:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | if we have the Android driver part, we can base a full dalvik on top | 13:23 |
| sandy_locke | alterego, yes when you crush every competition you're left with nothing but your poor little consanguineous ideas | 13:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | just need to pipe the display and events | 13:24 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and since libhybris already do similar kind of piping | 13:24 |
| alterego | sandy_locke: I wouldn't say Apple have crushed their competition yet. | 13:24 |
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| sledges | nemo will need to use libhybris on any androidy phones anyway (in its HA) already | 13:24 |
| alterego | Even Windows Phone is gaining some momentum. If very slowely .. | 13:24 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: that's why I'm trying to get a Galaxy S2 | 13:24 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | need to dig more into Android stuff | 13:24 |
| sledges | i got n4 here | 13:24 |
| sandy_locke | alterego, they try anyway | 13:24 |
| alterego | indeed | 13:24 |
| sledges | Stskeepz is up for help there btw ;) | 13:25 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sandy_locke: N4 would be nice for me | 13:25 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yep, but right now, trumpet | 13:25 |
| alterego | I keep toying with getting an Xperia Z | 13:25 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | guys, let's focus | 13:25 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | components components ! | 13:25 |
| faenil | :D | 13:25 |
| sledges | tru-tu-tu-tu tu tu! (trumpet) | 13:25 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 13:25 |
| alterego | :) | 13:25 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: mind if I fork upstream slider ? | 13:25 |
| sandy_locke | yes , I think nexus's are the way to go if you choose the android platform, Sfiet_Konstantin | 13:26 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, eh :P if there's no other option | 13:26 |
| sandy_locke | to be able to hack it your way | 13:26 |
| Merbot` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#438 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/438 | 13:26 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: we need the ball to be away from the position of the bar | 13:26 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, maybe exend the upstream one? Slider { //extensions } | 13:26 |
| sledges | Sfiet_Konstantin: the answer to your recent question to qwazix : http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23nemomobile/%23nemomobile.2013-10-07.log.html#t2013-10-07T18:24:01 ;) | 13:26 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: yeah, maybe, I will see what I can | 13:26 |
| sledges | what to do on 100% slider | 13:26 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | why is it called delete.png ? :D | 13:27 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | thanks sledges :) | 13:27 |
| sledges | that was my question too ;) | 13:27 |
| sledges | sort of deleteme.png concept | 13:27 |
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| faenil | does anyone know why in qtcomponents the ToolBar item is only in PageStack and not in each page? | 13:28 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | some music :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUszotxuwGo | 13:29 |
| alterego | faenil: it makes transitions between pages more smooth. | 13:29 |
| alterego | The toolbar can stay there or transition out when moving between pages. | 13:30 |
| faenil | alterego, am I misremembering or each page has its own toolbar? | 13:30 |
| faenil | can have* | 13:30 |
| alterego | faenil: each page has its' own controls, but the actual toolbar is rendered in the page stack, afair. | 13:30 |
| faenil | how do they handle two toolbars on screen at the same time then (page transitioning out and the other in) | 13:30 |
| alterego | It has been over two years since I was working on that stuff though, so don't rely too heavily on my memory there ;) | 13:31 |
| faenil | alterego, then I must be misremembering how transitions work | 13:31 |
| faenil | qtcomponents page transitions* | 13:31 |
| faenil | I remember you could see the two toolbars of the pages | 13:31 |
| faenil | while animating :/ | 13:31 |
| alterego | Hrm, I thought we fixed that. | 13:31 |
| alterego | But then, we fixed a lot of bugs in qtc that weren't ever released to N9 | 13:32 |
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| faenil | alterego, it must be me misremembering animations | 13:33 |
| faenil | I'll look up some harmattan vids on youtube | 13:33 |
| faenil | mmm | 13:33 |
| faenil | https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bLg8YhMaq90#t=30 | 13:33 |
| alterego | Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about :) | 13:34 |
| alterego | The toolbar is implemented in the PageStack, if a page overrides the global toolbar items, then those are replaced as the page transitions. | 13:34 |
| faenil | yeah...it's one | 13:35 |
| alterego | But the actual toolbar is always there when needed and isn't actually part of the "Page" | 13:35 |
| alterego | I might even be a bit wrong, the toolbar might actually be part of the ApplicationWindow | 13:35 |
| alterego | But never-the-less, it's still the same kind of behaviour. | 13:35 |
| faenil | https://github.com/nemomobile/qt-components/blob/qtquick2/src/meego/PageStackWindow.qml#L130 | 13:36 |
| faenil | there's one ToolBar in pagestackwindow, one in PageStack... | 13:36 |
| faenil | ah no it's only in pagestackwindow, the one in pagestack is just a property | 13:36 |
| alterego | :) | 13:37 |
| Merbot` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#438 Accepted promotion request | 13:37 |
| faenil | they could have avoided exploiting dynamic scoping though....-.- | 13:41 |
| alterego | QML was all very new to everyone when that was being developed. | 13:42 |
| alterego | People moving from mostly Qt/C++ to QML/Javascript | 13:42 |
| faenil | mmm right... | 13:42 |
| faenil | I guess taking inspiration from qtcomponents is not a nice idea | 13:43 |
| alterego | Well, inspiration is good. | 13:43 |
| faenil | :) | 13:43 |
| alterego | There is some cool stuff in there. | 13:43 |
| alterego | Things like the magnifier. Which not a lot of other platforms seem to get right. | 13:44 |
| faenil | ah yeah | 13:44 |
| alterego | A lot of effort was spent on that and the cut-and-paste stuff. | 13:44 |
| alterego | I remember spending about three days fine tuning page scrolling when focus was changed to an input field. | 13:44 |
| alterego | Which Android still fucks up. | 13:44 |
| faenil | :D | 13:45 |
| alterego | So yeah, please, please, please implement a nice magnifier for cursor placement and text selection. Preferably with Harmattan style haptic feedback when cursor moves between characters :) | 13:46 |
| faenil | alterego, it will happen, in a year maybe :) | 13:47 |
| alterego | :) | 13:49 |
| faenil | Ubuntu Touch propagets the toolbar to the pages instead | 13:50 |
| faenil | and the page sets its tools property | 13:50 |
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| alterego | Well, it's certainly something to consider. | 13:51 |
| alterego | Personally, I'm still inclined towards the qtc method, as it allows for more pleasing transition possibilities. | 13:52 |
| alterego | And less components | 13:52 |
| alterego | Other code that might be useful in qtc is the toolbar layout stuff, especially the expanding spacers. | 13:53 |
| alterego | It's a little messy, but the ideas are sound :) | 13:53 |
| faenil | alterego, a little...right... | 13:53 |
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| faenil | alterego, http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.1/qtquickcontrols/qml-qtquick-controls1-stackview.html#supported-attached-properties | 13:56 |
| faenil | close enough... | 13:56 |
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| faenil | Stack.view.parent.toolbar? :D | 13:56 |
| alterego | lovely ... | 13:57 |
| faenil | assuming the parent of the stackview is application window... | 13:57 |
| alterego | Check for appropriate prop. | 13:57 |
| faenil | ? | 13:57 |
| alterego | Are you familiar with the code in qt components that locates page windows and other specific parents? | 13:57 |
| faenil | nope | 13:58 |
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| alterego | Basically climbs parent components looking for specific property for say "window" or whatever. | 13:58 |
| alterego | https://github.com/nemomobile/qt-components/blob/qtquick2/src/meego/Utils.js | 13:59 |
| alterego | That stuff is really useful. | 13:59 |
| alterego | You will definitely need the "findFlickable" | 14:00 |
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| alterego | Which is required for scrolling on input focus ;) | 14:00 |
| faenil | for what? | 14:00 |
| faenil | ah | 14:00 |
| faenil | later, later :P | 14:00 |
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| faenil | root item's name... | 14:01 |
| faenil | what if they change that | 14:01 |
| alterego | So they use objectName, which is quite a good idea. | 14:01 |
| alterego | Well, make it more generic: "findParent(item, objectName)" | 14:01 |
| alterego | Oh wait, they already do that. | 14:02 |
| faenil | yes, but you need to find the root item, you can't know its name before finding it | 14:02 |
| alterego | How many people do you know that actually bother to use objectName? | 14:02 |
| alterego | That's basically what QObject name is for :) | 14:02 |
| alterego | If you want the root item, you go up until parent is undefined or null. | 14:03 |
| faenil | and you still have to assume it's an appwindow | 14:03 |
| alterego | That's when you check for the objectName | 14:03 |
| faenil | and if they change that :P | 14:03 |
| faenil | anyway, ok, I got that :) | 14:03 |
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| faenil | alterego, anyway I don't think QQC ToolBar has spacers, it's just a container | 14:09 |
| faenil | https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qtquickcontrols/source/4e92f2b10a0e4d42e903f6a18b59b33919e238d9:src/controls/ToolBar.qml#L125 | 14:10 |
| alterego | Hmm, I thought there were expanding components. | 14:10 |
| alterego | Maybe I'm wrong. | 14:10 |
| faenil | QtQuickControls, not qtcomponents | 14:10 |
| faenil | you were talking about https://github.com/nemomobile/qt-components/blob/qtquick2/src/meego/ToolBarLayout.js | 14:13 |
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| faenil | alterego, what was that for? | 14:15 |
| alterego | To basically force tool items to either side. | 14:16 |
| alterego | Like back button and app menu. | 14:16 |
| alterego | Keeps uniform distances between tool items. | 14:16 |
| faenil | why not just using a Row with spacing? (not for the 2 buttons case) | 14:16 |
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| faenil | so, I'd put orientation handling inside Page, anyone against that? | 14:24 |
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| faenil | wow, impressive https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick/pull/100 | 14:29 |
| faenil | w00t, so, this can go? https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick/pull/90 | 14:30 |
| faenil | as in, can be merged :P | 14:30 |
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| w00t | still waiting for the sensorfw removal | 14:31 |
| w00t | and someone (not me) to do a review | 14:31 |
| faenil | w00t, Vesuri has already reviewed? | 14:31 |
| w00t | if he did, good | 14:31 |
| faenil | (check the link, lazy :P ) | 14:32 |
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| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, ping | 14:40 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: pong | 14:44 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, please always test everything before committing :P | 14:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: what's the problem ? | 14:45 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, https://github.com/nemomobile/qtquickcontrols-nemo/blob/master/tools/themehelper/components.json#L113 | 14:45 |
| faenil | I'm commiting fix | 14:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ah | 14:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I see | 14:46 |
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| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, :P | 14:47 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, that was an attempt to drive me crazy wasn't it :P | 14:47 |
| faenil | confess! :D | 14:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | It was to try your JSON skill :P | 14:47 |
| faenil | :P | 14:48 |
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| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, sledges locusf https://github.com/nemomobile/qtquickcontrols-nemo/pull/5 | 15:17 |
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| zbenjamin | debian packaging is a nightmare! | 15:48 |
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| faenil | :) | 15:51 |
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| sledges | :D | 15:54 |
| sledges | and we are talking rpm here :)) | 15:54 |
| alterego | Ah, the good ole days. | 15:54 |
| Morpog_PC | guys what do I need to do to ssh into the nemo vm? | 15:54 |
| Morpog_PC | is there a default IP? | 15:55 |
| Morpog_PC | do I need to enable ssh somewhere in a config? | 15:55 |
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| faenil | Morpog_PC, look on wiki | 15:55 |
| Morpog_PC | shame on me :D | 15:55 |
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| Morpog_PC | works :) | 15:59 |
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| Morpog_PC | hmmm white effect on button doesn't work well with button text color | 16:06 |
| Morpog_PC | on important button | 16:06 |
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| faenil | Morpog_PC, anyway the effect was tuned to be big enough to see it while my thumb was over the button | 16:06 |
| faenil | it looks incredibly big with the mouse pointer, but try it on device ;) | 16:07 |
| Morpog_PC | will do in ~83 days | 16:07 |
| Morpog_PC | well you cannot read text anyways while pressing button | 16:07 |
| Morpog_PC | but maybe changing font color to grey while being pressed would work | 16:08 |
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| Morpog_PC | when can I try more stuff from examples? :) | 16:09 |
| faenil | well, there's not much new stuff to try | 16:10 |
| Morpog_PC | textfield? slider? | 16:10 |
| locusf | trumpeted slider isn't merged yet | 16:10 |
| locusf | and textfield isn't too exciting | 16:11 |
| Morpog_PC | well, seems I'm too impatient :) | 16:11 |
| faenil | I'm about to start working on Page, with that HeaderDock will come :) | 16:11 |
| sledges | Sfiet_Konstantin will give another stab to the trumpet, iirc locusf | 16:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: the slider API is giving me headaches | 16:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but I can still try | 16:14 |
| Morpog_PC | oh wait textfield is already included | 16:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I will do that trumpet no matter what | 16:14 |
| locusf | sledges: yes | 16:14 |
| Morpog_PC | who on earth invented the word trumpet for it? I already have funny imaginations when I read it :) | 16:15 |
| sledges | :) it's a challenge, "nobody said it was easy" :) | 16:15 |
| sledges | :D | 16:15 |
| sledges | it looks like one :)) | 16:16 |
| Morpog_PC | on which repo was open sans font? | 16:16 |
| Morpog_PC | and is it tsill needed to delete all other fonts? | 16:17 |
| sledges | faenil | 16:17 |
| sledges | iirc yes | 16:17 |
| sledges | Morpog_PC: just search obs for google ;p | 16:17 |
| Morpog_PC | got it already | 16:17 |
| Morpog_PC | i486 or i586? | 16:18 |
| Morpog_PC | on VM | 16:18 |
| sledges | 4 | 16:18 |
| locusf | I got PR's going which remove he need | 16:18 |
| locusf | to remove other fonts that is | 16:18 |
| faenil | what, when, whoo | 16:18 |
| * faenil reads backlog | 16:19 | |
| locusf | https://github.com/nemomobile/qt-components/pull/11 | 16:19 |
| locusf | https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick-colorful-home/pull/26 | 16:19 |
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| faenil | sledges, not needed for QtQuickControls either | 16:19 |
| sledges | faenil: nothing, just wrote your name as repo | 16:20 |
| faenil | it's just for the rest of the cases :) | 16:20 |
| Morpog_PC | ah cool, the I don't delete the other fonts | 16:20 |
| Morpog_PC | ah, looks ways better with open sans | 16:21 |
| Morpog_PC | now just the orientation needs to be fixed :) | 16:22 |
| Morpog_PC | oh and why is there to VKB at all in VM? | 16:23 |
| sledges | testing purposes? | 16:24 |
| sledges | :) | 16:24 |
| sledges | i have no hw either :{ | 16:24 |
| faenil | don't know | 16:24 |
| Morpog_PC | locusf, should there be a HW keyboard? I'm using the VM image you uploaded for me a while back (but updated) | 16:25 |
| Morpog_PC | VKB I wanted to say | 16:25 |
| locusf | Morpog_PC: with the new style, no | 16:26 |
| locusf | that PR still pending | 16:26 |
| Morpog_PC | I don't have one at all | 16:26 |
| locusf | oh | 16:26 |
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| faenil | I was wondering, why aren't we taking pieces of Silica? :P | 16:57 |
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| locusf | hmm why not | 17:04 |
| faenil | :) | 17:07 |
| faenil | it's also BSD :P | 17:08 |
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| zbenjamin | what is silica? | 17:18 |
| Morpog_PC | sailfishos components | 17:18 |
| qwazix | faenil, orientation in the Page? | 17:23 |
| faenil | yep | 17:23 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, SailfishOS' components | 17:23 |
| zbenjamin | aaaa ;) | 17:23 |
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| zbenjamin | how much sailfish is available already? | 17:23 |
| qwazix | doesn't that mean that if you dynamically load a new page it will come in landscape and then rotate? | 17:23 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, what do you mean | 17:23 |
| faenil | qwazix, ahahah | 17:24 |
| Morpog_PC | zbenjamin, SDK with emulator | 17:24 |
| faenil | qwazix, I hope not | 17:24 |
| zbenjamin | well how much code is already released into the open | 17:24 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, everything except core apps, c++ part of components, and rest of UI | 17:24 |
| qwazix | faenil, I hope not too. IIRC on harmattan it was on PageStack rather than on Page (probably for this reason?) | 17:24 |
| faenil | or we can say everything from core to middleware, plus QML part of components | 17:25 |
| faenil | qwazix, but you said on harmattan there was the issue | 17:25 |
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| qwazix | on harmattan there were multiple issues | 17:25 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: found anything out about rotation? | 17:25 |
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| faenil | zbenjamin, well we have to add that client-side | 17:26 |
| qwazix | one was that when browser went to the background it always rotated to portrait without reason | 17:26 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: so we get the information but qquickcontrols does nothing with it | 17:26 |
| zbenjamin | thats why lipstick also does not rotate | 17:26 |
| faenil | exactly | 17:26 |
| faenil | well it does something with it | 17:26 |
| zbenjamin | how was it done in x11? | 17:26 |
| faenil | it uses it for popups and dialogs (c++ ?) but not UI | 17:27 |
| qwazix | another was that apps in the background didn't rotate so if you swiped your app away, the one behind (or the home) had the wrong orientation and rotated just after being active | 17:27 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, in x11 we didn't have QtQuickControls | 17:27 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: i know but how was it done? in qml? | 17:27 |
| faenil | qwazix, yeah | 17:27 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, we used qtcomponents...so yes, qml | 17:27 |
| Stskeepz | btw, PSA: we moved the mer's own OBS workers to build.merproject.org and will be doing builds of mer on merproject.org from soo on | 17:28 |
| qwazix | neither of these problems come from where the rotation was handled, but rather lack of polish | 17:28 |
| Stskeepz | if you see too little time spent on nemo building, let me know | 17:28 |
| faenil | Stskeepz, oki | 17:28 |
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| faenil | Stskeepz, what do you think about us taking parts from silica for Glacier? | 17:29 |
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| Stskeepz | faenil: probably the wrong person to ask, but, read the license header | 17:29 |
| faenil | it's BSD | 17:29 |
| Stskeepz | https://build.merproject.org/project/show?project=mer-core%3Aarmv7l%3Adevel if you're interested in seeing a real mer build in action | 17:29 |
| faenil | 3-clause BSD | 17:29 |
| faenil | quite a few pacakges eheheh | 17:30 |
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| keithzg | Hmm, I'm getting 502 errors on the http://releases.nemomobile.org pages, are there alternate mirrors to download images? | 18:30 |
| Morpog_PC | keithzg, snapshots on nemo wiki | 18:31 |
| Morpog_PC | but those are not stable at all :) | 18:31 |
| Stskeepz | lbt: could you peek at nemomobile.org? | 18:31 |
| Morpog_PC | as nemo is in transition from x11 to wayland and qt4 to qt5 and qtcomponents to GlacierUI QQC components | 18:32 |
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| keithzg | Morpog_PC: Hmm, the only snapshots on the wiki I see are the links to the aforementioned nemomobile.org page. | 18:41 |
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| qwazix | Morpog_PC, https://github.com/qwazix/glacier-controls-spec/blob/master/listview/listview-big.png | 19:12 |
| qwazix | I modified the medium and big listviews to have the same font sizes with the small one, and fit more data in them. | 19:12 |
| qwazix | I also created a document in the root, with basic font sizes. We should stick to that when possible (right now the slider bubble does not fit but that case is sufficiently special to leave it an exception IMO) | 19:14 |
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| Morpog_PC | qwazix, looks good | 20:10 |
| Morpog_PC | but you forgot to set text size to 24 and 12 on the right side at big spec | 20:10 |
| Morpog_PC | and text isn't centered vertically anymore | 20:11 |
| Morpog_PC | on big spec | 20:12 |
| Morpog_PC | oh and don't forget the PR I made for progress-spinner | 20:13 |
| faenil | I like the square, did you keep it? :) | 20:14 |
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| Morpog_PC | yep | 20:21 |
| Morpog_PC | as alternative | 20:22 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, I wonder why some times I don't see the PR emails... | 20:23 |
| qwazix | Also you are right text needs centering | 20:23 |
| Morpog_PC | qwazix, any Idea for an indicator for that side-pulley feature? | 20:24 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, one of the items can show up slid out and animate to close position the first (few) time(s) one views list views | 20:28 |
| Morpog_PC | but not every listview has the feature or? | 20:28 |
| Morpog_PC | maybe not every item in a listview | 20:29 |
| Morpog_PC | so it would be a constant try and error | 20:29 |
| Morpog_PC | maybe a handle icon | 20:29 |
| Morpog_PC | like the 3 dots in header | 20:30 |
| Morpog_PC | small and thin | 20:30 |
| qwazix | hmm, yeah maybe but with much lower opacity | 20:30 |
| Morpog_PC | or just a blue shine on the side | 20:30 |
| qwazix | that could be too, but if every item has it it will be too much, except if it fades out after a while | 20:30 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, faenil will kill me but I was thinking that the same feature could be used for multiselection. Dragging two fingers on two items far apart would slide out all items in between, and user can be given an option to perform actions on all of them | 20:32 |
| Morpog_PC | sounds great! | 20:32 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, qwazix I like everything guys, as long as you do the specs in a good way | 20:34 |
| faenil | you have to think about all the use cases and describe them in the specs | 20:34 |
| qwazix | faenil, :nod: | 20:34 |
| faenil | and this didn't happen so far, I have to say :( | 20:34 |
| qwazix | we'll improve going forward. Sometimes it's hard to think of everything | 20:34 |
| faenil | qwazix, yes I know, I just wanted to say this, so that none will leave a spec unfinished :) | 20:35 |
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| Morpog_PC | faenil, sure but hard to think on all cases sometimes | 20:36 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, yes, I repeat I know, just, try harder :D | 20:36 |
| Morpog_PC | :D | 20:36 |
| faenil | don't just sketch, say the idea, and let us go insane on the implementation :D | 20:37 |
| qwazix | :nod: | 20:37 |
| faenil | qwazix, for exmaple, how do you handle the drawer when it's portrait/landscape? | 20:38 |
| faenil | in landscape the screen is much shorter in height | 20:38 |
| faenil | a scrolling list inside the drawer doesn't look right to me...but I will leave that to you :D | 20:39 |
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| qwazix | faenil, I was thinking about a side drawer but that doesn't work with the header... | 20:42 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, any ideas? | 20:42 |
| Morpog_PC | 2 rows become 2 columns in 1 row maybe? | 20:43 |
| qwazix | hmm... I think I know what to do | 20:43 |
| qwazix | just a minute | 20:43 |
| Morpog_PC | like on symbian touch widgets | 20:44 |
| Morpog_PC | would need fixed row size | 20:45 |
| Morpog_PC | not very flexible | 20:45 |
| zbenjamin | how do i squash a commit btw? | 20:50 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14534397/how-to-squash-all-my-commits-into-one-github | 20:51 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, better overview -> http://git-scm.com/book/en/Git-Tools-Rewriting-History | 20:52 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, http://play.qwazix.com/shared/header%20IV.png | 20:54 |
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| faenil | qwazix, so in landscape the header goes to side | 20:57 |
| qwazix | it's just an idea, but I think it works. Any objections? | 20:58 |
| faenil | this still leaves the problem of limiting the drawer/levels when in portrait | 20:58 |
| faenil | don't know, I'm working on page atm | 20:58 |
| Morpog_PC | ah ok, I was thinking it would dynamically change from top to side and tried to figure out how that should look like | 20:59 |
| Morpog_PC | header on side sounds good for landscape | 20:59 |
| qwazix | faenil, okay, I'll see into that too. | 21:00 |
| Morpog_PC | but gradient should be removed on side and still on top or? | 21:00 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, yeah right | 21:00 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, should we include title in rotated text or omit it? | 21:01 |
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| Morpog_PC | both is kinda strange | 21:02 |
| qwazix | I think I would omit it | 21:02 |
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| zbenjamin | faenil: thx | 21:03 |
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| Morpog_PC | qwazix, if omiting we could allow 6 icons instead of 3 | 21:05 |
| qwazix | and where would the extra icons go when user rotates to portrait? | 21:06 |
| Morpog_PC | up to developer | 21:06 |
| Morpog_PC | could be most used duplicates from 2nd level of header | 21:07 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: should i squash all of my patches? | 21:08 |
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| faenil | zbenjamin, I think so | 21:09 |
| faenil | all fixes and patches in the same commit, since it's all about the same thing, and it's not big | 21:09 |
| faenil | so 1 commit is go | 21:09 |
| faenil | is ok | 21:09 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, not sure, might be too complex | 21:09 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, I think number of toolbuttons is not fixed anyway, so developer can add more buttons if he wants (either because of landscape or small title or whatever) | 21:12 |
| faenil | qwazix, not fixed? last time it was fixed to 3 :p | 21:15 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: btw can't we just rip the rotation handling from components? its BSD isn't it? | 21:15 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, which components, silica? | 21:15 |
| zbenjamin | the components fingerterm uses | 21:16 |
| faenil | ah, no | 21:16 |
| zbenjamin | qtcomponents | 21:16 |
| faenil | it's all bloated | 21:16 |
| faenil | lots of stuff is overcomplicated imho | 21:16 |
| zbenjamin | ok :/ | 21:16 |
| qwazix | faenil, ah, didn't remember correctly, sorry | 21:16 |
| faenil | qwazix, no problem, it's just a matter of deciding and thinking about what happens if there's not enough space etc :) | 21:17 |
| zbenjamin | w00t: i'm going to remove the qt4 checks, do you want that as a seperate patch? or can i just add to my current pending patch? | 21:17 |
| w00t | zbenjamin: feel free to add it as-is | 21:17 |
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| NeeDforKill | hi all | 21:18 |
| qwazix | faenil, I'll work on the header a bit more so that you have all the relevant info for both orientations | 21:18 |
| faenil | qwazix, :) | 21:18 |
| faenil | also for example default background for the levels? | 21:18 |
| NeeDforKill | Andrea how areu? | 21:18 |
| faenil | NeeDforKill, o/ | 21:18 |
| qwazix | faenil, black. Since we've got speedbumping, no need to have different colors IMO | 21:19 |
| faenil | what if we didn't have it? | 21:19 |
| NeeDforKill | what new? | 21:19 |
| NeeDforKill | in nemo | 21:19 |
| faenil | NeeDforKill, working on the new components for Glacier UI | 21:20 |
| NeeDforKill | so maliit working? | 21:20 |
| qwazix | faenil, speedbumping? | 21:20 |
| zbenjamin | w00t: there is some not implemented stuff also, but its always possible to check out the qt4 version from git | 21:20 |
| zbenjamin | MDeclarativeIMObserver::sceneEventFilter for example | 21:20 |
| qwazix | I find the way BB10 does approximately the same thing at the left menu of the browser good enough (no speedbumping and no colors) but we could think about a very subtle border or sth. | 21:21 |
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| NeeDforKill_ | now better :D | 21:21 |
| faenil | NeeDforKill_, ah I didn't work on that anymore :) | 21:22 |
| zbenjamin | HAVE_MALIIT is dead for Qt5? | 21:23 |
| NeeDforKill_ | i read in twitter it's must be fixed | 21:23 |
| faenil | NeeDforKill_, I fixed something, but there are other minor issues | 21:24 |
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| zbenjamin | faenil: is maliit still used? | 21:25 |
| Morpog_PC | yes | 21:25 |
| w00t | zbenjamin: the stuff in HAVE_MALIIT is mostly replaceable with better API in QInputContext in Qt 5 iirc | 21:26 |
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| faenil | w00t, but, not yet? :D | 21:26 |
| zbenjamin | so remove the HAVE_MALIIT or not? ;) | 21:26 |
| zbenjamin | i guess HAVE_XLIB is also history? | 21:27 |
| w00t | faenil: I don't have time to work on components anymore | 21:28 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: w00t: afaik the CONTEXTSUBSCRIBER thingy can also go? | 21:30 |
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| qwazix | btw, http://kdeblog.mageprojects.com/2012/11/20/using-fonts-awesome-in-qml/ | 21:31 |
| qwazix | veeery nice idea for toolicons | 21:31 |
| faenil | w00t, I meant that he can't get rid of that, as we have no replacement ready | 21:33 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, yes I think so | 21:33 |
| zbenjamin | ok | 21:33 |
| faenil | not 100% sure, wait for w00t | 21:33 |
| w00t | without looking, I don't know off the top of my head | 21:34 |
| w00t | check if it's compiled | 21:34 |
| w00t | if it isn't, it's probably safe to delete | 21:34 |
| zbenjamin | no its not afaik | 21:34 |
| zbenjamin | because my new code is a #elif of contextsubscriber | 21:34 |
| alterego | qwazix: I saw that stuff last night when looking at groundwork. Was going to recommend them myself. | 21:34 |
| qwazix | alterego, :nod: | 21:35 |
| alterego | I quite liked the ground work colour schemes too. | 21:36 |
| alterego | Even the light themes, and I'm not usually a fan of light colour schemes. | 21:37 |
| alterego | Has no one got around to updating the bootsplash? | 21:42 |
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| faenil | alterego, ? | 21:45 |
| faenil | alterego, talking about colours? | 21:45 |
| alterego | Yes | 21:45 |
| faenil | alterego, when I created the wayland image for n950, colours were okay, I was surprised | 21:46 |
| faenil | and it was like that for few weeks | 21:46 |
| faenil | now recently it got back to those weird colours | 21:46 |
| faenil | and I have no idea why :( | 21:46 |
| alterego | In apps? | 21:46 |
| faenil | maybe some changes in systemd boot chain | 21:46 |
| alterego | I wasn't talking about that actually, but what's the problem? | 21:46 |
| faenil | you were talking about the bootsplash | 21:46 |
| alterego | Yes, it's not the same as the shutdown one. | 21:46 |
| alterego | It's the old Nemo logo | 21:47 |
| alterego | (for me) | 21:47 |
| faenil | I'm talking about the weird colours while it shows | 21:47 |
| faenil | 8bit mode | 21:47 |
| faenil | (4 bit maybe :P) | 21:47 |
| alterego | Heh, on N9? | 21:47 |
| faenil | n950 at least | 21:47 |
| faenil | haven't checked if it broke on vm as well | 21:47 |
| alterego | Okay, I'll reboot and look. | 21:47 |
| faenil | but colours were okay when the transition to wayland began :( | 21:48 |
| alterego | Anyway, I really like the shutdown image :) | 21:48 |
| faenil | good :) | 21:48 |
| faenil | yeah it's nice | 21:48 |
| alterego | And we qwazix mentioned these icons: http://groundwork.sidereel.com/groundwork/docs/icons.html | 21:48 |
| alterego | Which I like also. | 21:48 |
| alterego | :) | 21:48 |
| alterego | and I like these colours: http://groundwork.sidereel.com/groundwork/docs/buttons.html | 21:50 |
| alterego | Maybe this one is better: http://groundwork.sidereel.com/groundwork/docs/messages.html | 21:50 |
| alterego | for a light theme ;) | 21:51 |
| alterego | faenil: anyway, no problem with the colours on my bootup. | 21:52 |
| alterego | The image doesn't look very sharp, seems upscaled somehow. But meh. | 21:52 |
| alterego | I think maybe also bootup / shutdown should be portrait (at least by default) | 21:53 |
| faenil | alterego, so the blue is blue? | 21:53 |
| alterego | Yes | 21:53 |
| faenil | ok great | 21:53 |
| faenil | and you're dupped? | 21:53 |
| alterego | Yup | 21:53 |
| faenil | ok awesome | 21:53 |
| alterego | Probably rsync a new fs now though | 21:53 |
| zbenjamin | w00t: can't i just return the orientation from QScreen in MDeclarativeScreenPrivate::physicalOrientation? | 21:53 |
| faenil | ah crap can't dup because nemomobile.org is offline | 21:54 |
| alterego | Oh | 21:54 |
| w00t | ? doesn't seem to be | 21:55 |
| faenil | w00t, 502 | 21:55 |
| w00t | zbenjamin: I really don't know without diving into code I don't remember much of anymore, but plausibly so yes | 21:55 |
| alterego | bad gateway could be you | 21:56 |
| alterego | Are you running through a proxy? | 21:56 |
| faenil | w00t, http://repo.merproject.org/obs/nemo:/devel:/hw:/ti:/omap3:/n9xx-common/latest_armv7hl/repodata/repomd.xml | 21:56 |
| alterego | Okay, same here. | 21:56 |
| faenil | sorry I gave for granted it was nemomobile, it's merproejct | 21:57 |
| alterego | :/ | 21:57 |
| w00t | lbt: ^^ | 21:57 |
| alterego | Well, I would hope he's sleeping :) | 21:57 |
| lbt | hmm? | 21:57 |
| alterego | Hahah | 21:57 |
| faenil | :D | 21:58 |
| faenil | lbt, http://repo.merproject.org/obs/nemo:/devel:/hw:/ti:/omap3:/n9xx-common/latest_armv7hl/repodata/repomd.xml | 21:58 |
| alterego | the whole domain is reporting 502 | 21:58 |
| lbt | 502 ? | 21:58 |
| lbt | bad infra | 21:58 |
| alterego | Erm, https? | 21:58 |
| alterego | Eek | 21:59 |
| alterego | https://repo.merproject.org/obs/nemo:/devel:/hw:/ti:/omap3:/n9xx-common/latest_armv7hl/repodata/repomd.xml | 21:59 |
| alterego | Is that RoR? | 21:59 |
| alterego | :) | 21:59 |
| lbt | it all goes via an nginx reverse proxy | 22:02 |
| alterego | Yeah | 22:02 |
| alterego | Wouldn't it make more sense having nginx serve those repositories without going through obs though? | 22:02 |
| lbt | and there's no https for repo - so it fails back to the first one which is api. | 22:02 |
| alterego | ~osc .. | 22:02 |
| lbt | it hits nginx and then bounces to a VM | 22:02 |
| alterego | NFS? | 22:03 |
| alterego | I suppose that may add a little more complexity, but NFS is usually pretty robust. | 22:03 |
| lbt | I don't like NFS | 22:03 |
| lbt | to many failure modes | 22:04 |
| alterego | Price it pays for being probably the best :/ | 22:04 |
| alterego | Or most widespread or whatever ;) | 22:04 |
| lbt | meh - CIFS is looking better nowadays :) | 22:04 |
| alterego | Maybe have a light http server on the vm hosting static files? | 22:05 |
| lbt | yep that's what it does :) | 22:05 |
| alterego | The RoR app? | 22:05 |
| lbt | [ 1.602212] udev[379]: renamed network interface eth1 to eth2 | 22:06 |
| lbt | bastard | 22:06 |
| alterego | Erm, hah | 22:06 |
| alterego | Why .... | 22:06 |
| faenil | lol | 22:06 |
| alterego | debian? | 22:07 |
| lbt | ok ... back now | 22:08 |
| alterego | \o/ | 22:09 |
| lbt | I appear to have forgotten to hardcode the mac on the VM virtual ethernet so it changed .. so udev (reasonably) thought it was a new nic | 22:09 |
| faenil | :) | 22:09 |
| alterego | New VM? | 22:09 |
| lbt | no - but probably not rebooted for ... "a while" | 22:10 |
| lbt | (how old is Mer now?) | 22:10 |
| alterego | :) | 22:10 |
| alterego | Are you suggesting a Mer birthday party? | 22:11 |
| alterego | Because I'm in | 22:11 |
| lbt | we should :) | 22:11 |
| alterego | Somewhere other than Finland? It's getting cold I'd imagine | 22:11 |
| lbt | yeah | 22:12 |
| alterego | Somewhere everyone would enjoy, France .... | 22:12 |
| lbt | faenil: w00t fixed | 22:12 |
| alterego | Or maybe London, though I personally wouldn't recommend the place ;) | 22:12 |
| w00t | lbt: <3 | 22:13 |
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| faenil | lbt, thanks :) | 22:15 |
| lbt | london is too expensive - the problem is we're too spread out... FOSDEM ? | 22:15 |
| alterego | Feb? | 22:15 |
| lbt | yep | 22:16 |
| alterego | I could probably be persuaded. | 22:16 |
| alterego | Starting to get Deja Vu now .. | 22:16 |
| alterego | Did you mention you were going about a month ago? :) | 22:17 |
| faenil | Italy! o/ | 22:17 |
| lbt | not afair - but we need to think about talks | 22:17 |
| lbt | faenil: ! :D | 22:17 |
| faenil | :D | 22:17 |
| alterego | I did want to go to Italy this year | 22:17 |
| faenil | you see? | 22:17 |
| alterego | But I probably wont get the chance now. | 22:17 |
| faenil | ow | 22:17 |
| alterego | Going to Austria in January though, that'll be fun :) | 22:18 |
| alterego | Ich gehe skifarhen | 22:18 |
| alterego | I think I sound only slightly better than I spell German. | 22:19 |
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| qwazix | o/ goodnight. | 22:29 |
| faenil | qwazix, goodnight o/ | 22:30 |
| faenil | alterego, colours are screwed here :/ | 22:36 |
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| zbenjamin | faenil: seems i cannot squash the commits | 22:49 |
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| faenil | zbenjamin, why | 22:49 |
| zbenjamin | it says Could not apply e8138f3... Make the Meego components build against Qt5 with QtQuick2 | 22:49 |
| zbenjamin | is it maybe because i'm on a branch and not on master? | 22:50 |
| zbenjamin | you know qtquick2 | 22:50 |
| zbenjamin | ? | 22:50 |
| faenil | qtquick2 is the branch | 22:51 |
| zbenjamin | yes | 22:52 |
| zbenjamin | i do git rebase -i master ? | 22:52 |
| zbenjamin | ah found it HEAD~3 | 22:55 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, I don't remember details right now | 22:55 |
| faenil | maybe there's a conflict while squashing? | 22:55 |
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| zbenjamin | faenil: i got it | 22:57 |
| faenil | good | 22:57 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: with that new patch all apps are in portrait btw ;)+ | 22:57 |
| faenil | weren't they portrait already? | 22:58 |
| faenil | they were.. | 22:58 |
| zbenjamin | so thats not from me ;) maybe it came with the update | 22:58 |
| zbenjamin | Messages starts in the current device orientation ... hmm | 22:59 |
| zbenjamin | but does not rotate | 22:59 |
| faenil | they've always been portrait from what I recall | 22:59 |
| faenil | zbenjamin, you need to add setOrientationUpdateMask? | 22:59 |
| zbenjamin | hm no at least the dialer wasn't | 22:59 |
| zbenjamin | faenil: i know ;) | 22:59 |
| faenil | dialer wasn't? strange...I've never seen dialer in landscape | 23:00 |
| zbenjamin | maybe i'm wrong, does EMail start for you in landscape if your phone is in landscape? | 23:00 |
| faenil | nope | 23:01 |
| zbenjamin | for me it does now | 23:01 |
| zbenjamin | https://github.com/bzeller/qt-components/commit/c512966ac31007dd40f7affd0bcfcbd48c3e9477#diff-692a1fb00c13685d733c5c93c2b9f534L381 | 23:02 |
| faenil | so? | 23:03 |
| faenil | ah it's your new commit | 23:03 |
| zbenjamin | just saying, excited about seeing the changes ;) | 23:03 |
| zbenjamin | yep | 23:03 |
| faenil | yes cool ;) | 23:04 |
| zbenjamin | before that fingerterm started in portrait and rotated to landscape, now the apps are already in the right direction | 23:04 |
| faenil | why are you not handling the primaryorientation case though? | 23:04 |
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| zbenjamin | faenil: look at the start of the function | 23:05 |
| faenil | you assume Default is the primary | 23:05 |
| zbenjamin | hm true :/ | 23:06 |
| faenil | could be valid assumption, but has to be checked | 23:06 |
| zbenjamin | the enum only has Default and All | 23:07 |
| zbenjamin | and the orientations of course | 23:07 |
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| zbenjamin | anyway time for some sleep ;) | 23:11 |
| zbenjamin | see you guys tomorrow | 23:11 |
| faenil | cya | 23:12 |
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