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| faenil_ | o/ | 09:02 |
| sledges | \o | 09:04 |
| sledges | good_morning | 09:04 |
| fk_lx | \o/ | 09:05 |
| cybette | .o. | 09:08 |
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| faenil_ | let's play star wars | 09:12 |
| faenil_ | \me |o| pew pews! | 09:13 |
| faenil_ | woops | 09:13 |
| cybette | heheh | 09:13 |
| * faenil_ lol | 09:13 | |
| * faenil_ |o| pewpews | 09:13 | |
| faenil_ | cybette, how you doing :) | 09:13 |
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| cybette | faenil: a bit sick, hope it doesn't get worse. don't want to miss smartdevcon | 09:15 |
| sledges | lots of tea and vitamin c :) | 09:15 |
| faenil | cybette, don't you dare missing sdc! | 09:15 |
| juiceme | it's flu time of the year :( | 09:16 |
| juiceme | been sick for a week and few days now... | 09:16 |
| cybette | working from bed today, hope that helps :) | 09:16 |
| faenil | :) | 09:18 |
| rcg | btw. is there any way to be added to the nemomobile github group/organization? | 09:19 |
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| fk_lx | rcg: I've noticed you are asking the same question for the second time, would be nice if someone would answer you :-) | 09:21 |
| rcg | fk_lx, :) | 09:21 |
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| rcg | well, i assumed that the first time, saturday evening/night, might have been not the best time :) | 09:22 |
| rcg | but good to know that it got noticed :) | 09:23 |
| fk_lx | rcg: :-) | 09:23 |
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| w00t | I (at least, and probably others) was travelling/recovering on the weekend and not much online, so could be the case :) | 09:26 |
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| w00t | but anyway, there's no hard rules atm -- I have a long-standing TODO to start documenting this sort of stuff that I should really try get to.. generally speaking: if you make pull requests (demonstrating that you are good to work with) and enough of them to demonstrate that you have a need to be there (because other people get tired of merging your pull requests :-p), you can get added | 09:27 |
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| w00t | if you think you meet those criteria and I or someone else hasn't already done that, talk to me | 09:27 |
| rcg | w00t, ah, alright, personally, my main motivation to being added is to show support for nemomobile, i had already done some PR to nemomobile repos but i'd still prefer to have others verify my PRs first | 09:31 |
| w00t | yes, you'll still need to go through review (or be beaten :-)) | 09:32 |
| rcg | i had quite a lot PR to qmlcalendar over than a year ago | 09:32 |
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| rcg | and i also added some PR to qmlmessages and qmlmail | 09:33 |
| rcg | dunno if that qualifies me to being added :) | 09:33 |
| w00t | rcg: I'll keep an eye on you, keep it up and it will :) | 09:34 |
| faenil | w00t, morning o/ | 09:34 |
| w00t | faenil: morning :) how's the studies going | 09:35 |
| faenil | w00t, does lipstick (or home) expose any "kbd input is active" property? | 09:35 |
| rcg | w00t, aye :) | 09:35 |
| faenil | w00t, passed the Sept exam! I'm freaking happy! | 09:35 |
| stephg | nice | 09:35 |
| w00t | faenil: afair mikhas was saying that maliit has one, but that it may not be enabled | 09:35 |
| faenil | w00t, problem is: open app A, open kbd on app A, then send app A to bg, then send app B to foreground, keyboard is still there and start animating out of screen | 09:36 |
| faenil | on one hand, it's normal because compositor uses "visible: appLayerIsActive" or something like that | 09:37 |
| w00t | the real problem there may probably be something along the line that you aren't setting window state/focus when minimizing applications | 09:37 |
| faenil | on the other hand, maliit already animates out when you send app A to b | 09:37 |
| faenil | bg | 09:37 |
| faenil | w00t, well, the fact that maliit animates out of screen when you send app A to bg seems to be saying that it is disabling it | 09:39 |
| faenil | but when send another app to bg, it's still there, and animates out of screen again :/ | 09:39 |
| faenil | to fg* | 09:39 |
| faenil | I may want to ask mikhas, who's not online :) | 09:42 |
| faenil | w00t, how was sailing instead :) | 09:47 |
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| w00t | faenil: at least it does not affect our compositor, so i'd be inclined to say it's state-related | 09:50 |
| w00t | sailing was good | 09:50 |
| faenil | so it should be a bug in nemo's compositor | 09:51 |
| faenil | more like the app that comes to FG shouldn't require keyboard | 09:51 |
| faenil | I don't know why maliit shows keyboard :/ got to investigate that | 09:51 |
| * sledges got an N900 on his desk now \o/ | 09:56 | |
| sledges | bad news it doesn't want to turn on &) | 09:56 |
| faenil | lol | 09:56 |
| * w00t has two broken N900s in a box on the shelf next to him, awaiting repair | 09:57 | |
| w00t | one day I'll do it... | 09:57 |
| sledges | :) | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | i bet you'll get a lumia these days | 09:57 |
| sledges | or make one working one :) | 09:57 |
| sledges | Stskeeps, ... :) | 09:58 |
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| w00t | Stskeeps: the one and only windows phone I have ever posessed (thanks, nokia) has now left my house | 10:10 |
| w00t | so I'm lumia-free | 10:10 |
| sledges | illuminated | 10:10 |
| sledges | idea of sending anything back to nokia support has left my brain years ago.. | 10:12 |
| sledges | that's why I didn't get Stskeeps' remark :D | 10:12 |
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| Anssi|| | i had one lumia once, i gave it away. happy n9 user, it's still best phone out there what i know. | 10:18 |
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| faenil | bbl | 10:33 |
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| alterego | w00t: god rid of mine after about two weeks, fobbed it off on my ex-gf :) | 11:44 |
| alterego | Actually, I had two, sold one to a friend and gave the other one to my ex. | 11:44 |
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| fk_lx | well some people didn't went so low to own a lumia like me :-P | 11:50 |
| w00t | fk_lx: Nokia gave it to me. I didn't (and wouldn't) buy one :) | 11:50 |
| fk_lx | w00t: you could send it them back :-P | 11:52 |
| fk_lx | :-D | 11:52 |
| alterego | Heh | 11:52 |
| fk_lx | w00t: I treat it that you pick the phone to see what mistakes to avoid :-D | 11:52 |
| alterego | I used it for a few days. | 11:53 |
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| alterego | Like you said, it's good to keep an eye on the competition. ;) | 11:53 |
| fk_lx | w00t: when it comes to software and mobile os | 11:53 |
| fk_lx | :-) | 11:53 |
| w00t | I used it for some few days when I had no other phone | 11:53 |
| w00t | and threw it back in the box as soon as I got something else, the lack of any form of multitasking drove me insane | 11:53 |
| alterego | No doubt the user interface is smooth, but otherwise it's pretty lame. | 11:53 |
| alterego | Yeah, I get that with Android. | 11:54 |
| fk_lx | w00t: there was somewhere comparison of Angry Birds running on L800 an N9 | 11:54 |
| fk_lx | w00t: so on N9 game went into background, on L800 it was relaunched from start then the state/current level was loaded | 11:54 |
| alterego | Heh | 11:54 |
| alterego | Probably not quite that bad on Android .. | 11:55 |
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| Anssi|| | probably not. | 12:07 |
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| Anssi|| | some one should just simple iphone clone on open *nux. that would be fine for me | 12:10 |
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| niqt | ping w00t | 13:03 |
| mric_ | niqt, is packagmanager already ported to QT5 ? | 13:04 |
| w00t | niqt: pong | 13:05 |
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| niqt | mric_ no | 13:08 |
| niqt | w00t i have create ks for n900 wayland image, but i have a problem with lipstic http://pastebin.com/kT9jtdXA | 13:08 |
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| w00t | niqt: you need to look at how to make the ioctl optional for n900 most likely | 13:30 |
| w00t | (in ti-omap3-sgx-wayland-wsegl) | 13:30 |
| niqt | w00t ok | 13:34 |
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| locusf | has nemo bugzilla been updated to wayland era? | 15:48 |
| faenil | don't think so, at least I didn't get any update from iekku | 15:50 |
| iekku | not yet | 15:50 |
| iekku | and i failed with triage hosting | 15:50 |
| faenil | iekku, np ;) | 15:52 |
| iekku | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=700 | 15:55 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 700 in Nemo Bugzilla "Move/Hide x11 categories, create wayland categories" [Normal,New] | 15:55 |
| iekku | anyone against faenil's proposal? | 15:55 |
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| sledges | there's no such thing as x11 category | 16:00 |
| sledges | wayland bugs could be filed under existing Window Manager/Compositor | 16:00 |
| sledges | s/category/component | 16:00 |
| sledges | if you want to submit an x11 related bug | 16:01 |
| sledges | you do this under bugs.merproject.org | 16:02 |
| sledges | there also exists a wayland component next to all | 16:02 |
| sledges | https://bugs.merproject.org/buglist.cgi?product=Mer%20Core&component=wayland&resolution=--- | 16:02 |
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| faenil | sledges, it's not just about wayland | 16:03 |
| faenil | it's also about qt4 -> qt5 | 16:03 |
| faenil | qml1 -> qml2 | 16:03 |
| faenil | we need a way to split bugs files for apps which are in Nemo wayland, from old apps | 16:03 |
| locusf | yeah, should have rephrased | 16:03 |
| faenil | you can call it nemo qt4 and nemo qt5 | 16:03 |
| faenil | (the categories) | 16:04 |
| sledges | sorry then misread the bug description (which was also about x11) | 16:04 |
| sledges | are old qt4 apps still maintained? | 16:04 |
| sledges | ;) | 16:04 |
| faenil | sledges, don't think so, but some could be | 16:04 |
| faenil | I'm not against nuking the whole x11/qt4 bug cateogires | 16:05 |
| faenil | but we also need a way to keep old bugs | 16:05 |
| faenil | so that one day we'll check if those are still applicable to nemo qt5 | 16:05 |
| sledges | faenil, could you show where that 'categories' thing is under bugzilla? | 16:05 |
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| faenil | components, whatever you click on bugzilla | 16:06 |
| sledges | or you as well mean 'components' | 16:06 |
| faenil | when you browse | 16:06 |
| faenil | yes ;) | 16:06 |
| sledges | ok, all clear now | 16:06 |
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| iekku | i wouldn't mind if you could add comments to bug :) | 16:06 |
| faenil | done ;) | 16:11 |
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| sledges | grazie! :) | 16:16 |
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| november123 | hey. i just booted the latest nemo snapshot with my n900, but it does not seem to find my sim-card which was detected with the last release. Is this a knowen bug? | 16:18 |
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| sledges | november123, latest release is end of June 2013 | 16:24 |
| sledges | latest snapshot is way older than that ;) | 16:25 |
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| faenil | let's get back to maliit, and see what we can do :) | 16:29 |
| november123 | sledges: hu? where do i find it? i installed 0.20130411.1.NEMO.2013-04-26.1 | 16:30 |
| locusf | faenil: is it still not working or are you referring to Glacier specs? | 16:30 |
| faenil | locusf, well, then new issue, that is shows when you send an app to foreground even if it's not needed | 16:31 |
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| sledges | november123, https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Images | 16:31 |
| faenil | it shows* | 16:31 |
| locusf | faenil: btw had to reflash due to bad zypper dup, not 100% what broke but FYI nevertheless | 16:32 |
| faenil | ah, ok ;) | 16:32 |
| november123 | sledges: okay, will try the last release, thank you | 16:32 |
| sledges | november123, have fun! | 16:33 |
| locusf | faenil: btw I don't know if you followed me and lbt on #mer but I managed to get a wayland nemo armv7hl target to work with Sailfish SDK | 16:36 |
| faenil | awesome! :D | 16:36 |
| faenil | wonderful :) | 16:36 |
| locusf | that requires a custom .ks but I don't know wether I should update your rnd_sb2target.ks or create another and then do a PR? | 16:37 |
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| faenil | I guess just update that and PR ;) | 16:38 |
| locusf | ok | 16:38 |
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| sledges | \o/ | 16:42 |
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| locusf | I should probably do a blog post to record the steps | 16:46 |
| faenil | definitely ;) | 16:47 |
| faenil | I've been quite busy these days, I had them free after the exam, but a friend has come to visit me, so I'm quite busy having fun with him,lol :D | 16:47 |
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| rcg | faenil, that sounds like time well spent :D | 16:53 |
| faenil | :D | 16:53 |
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| rcg | computer science guys tend to quickly forget the value of rl xD | 16:54 |
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| november123 | yay, with the last release sim is working, and i even can make calls (but just the incomming sound seems to work - anything i can do about the micro?) | 16:56 |
| sledges | november123, according to wiki it should work. ping the people at the bottom of list: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Status/Matrix#NEMO_X11_STATUS | 17:04 |
| sledges | also @niqt and @nsuffys (on twitter, sometimes here) test nemo on n900 | 17:05 |
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| november123 | sledges: okay, thanks | 17:11 |
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| locusf | gaah, uploading always takes ages | 17:29 |
| locusf | and god blogger has the worst interface for technical writing | 17:29 |
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| locusf | http://locusf.blogspot.fi/2013/09/adding-armv7hl-target-to-sailfish-sdk.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter | 18:01 |
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| sledges | \o/ | 18:36 |
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| Morpog_PC | tizen 3.0 UI http://tizenindonesia.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/penampakan-tizen-30-ui-di-samsung.html#.Ui4bAbTTRJb | 19:03 |
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