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| Morpog_N9 | morning :D | 10:42 |
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| juiceme | really quiet day, this :) | 11:38 |
| juiceme | where's everybody now? | 11:39 |
| locusf | yesterday was too | 11:39 |
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| locusf | all the jolla guys are sailing | 11:39 |
| juiceme | noticed that. | 11:39 |
| juiceme | aa some outig or smthng? | 11:39 |
| juiceme | s/outig/outing/ | 11:40 |
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| juiceme | just tried the wayland image on N9 today. | 11:40 |
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| locusf | yeah an outing | 11:40 |
| locusf | cool :) | 11:41 |
| locusf | good to know that more and more people are trying it | 11:41 |
| juiceme | boot nice but it's kind of lacking as it is... lots of the stuff that was already on the X11 version is missing. | 11:41 |
| juiceme | yes :) | 11:41 |
| juiceme | maybe I could be of some help | 11:42 |
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| juiceme | hiya wook w|aw :) | 11:42 |
| locusf | do you have bugs.merproject.org account? | 11:44 |
| juiceme | no, not yet. | 11:44 |
| juiceme | who can grant me one? | 11:45 |
| locusf | you yourself :) | 11:45 |
| juiceme | ahh :) | 11:45 |
| locusf | we should have a component for all wayland stuff | 11:45 |
| locusf | AFAIU there is nothing like that yet | 11:45 |
| juiceme | now I've got an account there :) | 11:47 |
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| locusf | ok | 11:49 |
| mikhas | is the wayland image noticeably faster? | 11:49 |
| locusf | juiceme: which image did you download btw? | 11:50 |
| locusf | mikhas: it depends on the terminology of "faster" :) | 11:50 |
| juiceme | mikhas, difficult to say really. I'd imagine the speed is better on difficult compositions but basic stuff like there is now does not show up the advantage. | 11:51 |
| juiceme | locusf, it was this image https://www.dropbox.com/s/d1alps0t784e6q5/nemo-armv7hl-n950-rnd-20130903.tar.bz2 given by sledges | 11:52 |
| juiceme | did not try yet to update anything on it, just booted, checked some basic things like made one phone call etc... | 11:53 |
| juiceme | the fonts are somehow bit strangish on it :) | 11:53 |
| locusf | juiceme: ok cool | 11:54 |
| juiceme | have you tried it ? | 11:54 |
| locusf | juiceme: the first release could really bite someone | 11:54 |
| locusf | nope | 11:54 |
| locusf | I have my own build running atm | 11:54 |
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| juiceme | okay. Using some virtual machine,? | 11:54 |
| locusf | nope, my own n9 | 11:55 |
| juiceme | ah ok. that different from the one I tried? | 11:55 |
| locusf | I don't know | 11:56 |
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| juiceme | : | 11:56 |
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| juiceme | :) | 11:56 |
| juiceme | need to go now... | 11:59 |
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| Mric_ | can wait to see glacier UI implemeted in wayland :) | 14:18 |
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| locusf | btw how are the Glacier UI specs doing these days? | 15:40 |
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| Morpog_ | locusf, you can follow the progress on grog blog | 16:47 |
| locusf | yeah noticed | 16:47 |
| Morpog_ | I did a simple theme for maliit nemo plugin keyboard, so just exchanged graphics. It's fine for a quick glacier UI switch, but for a final version it should be redone with more states and better qml design. | 16:48 |
| Morpog_ | couldn't test it anywhere yet though :) | 16:49 |
| locusf | ok :) | 16:49 |
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| locusf | oh yeah since maliit is broken, right | 16:54 |
| locusf | Morpog_: could you upload it somewhere so I could test it? | 16:54 |
| Morpog_ | it already is | 16:55 |
| locusf | where? | 16:55 |
| Morpog_ | http://db.tt/GeCl2GKX | 16:55 |
| locusf | ah ok | 16:56 |
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| Morpog_ | black text on popper could be too dark, maybe change it in qml file to white | 16:58 |
| locusf | hmm I've been forking a lot these days | 16:58 |
| Morpog_ | should be white anyways | 16:58 |
| locusf | ok | 16:59 |
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| faenil | o/ | 17:12 |
| locusf | heya | 17:12 |
| faenil | locusf, hey :) | 17:12 |
| faenil | I'm so happy, one of 2 most difficult exams in master is gone :D | 17:13 |
| faenil | can't believe it! | 17:13 |
| locusf | faenil: you passed? congrats man :) | 17:13 |
| faenil | yeah! | 17:13 |
| locusf | outstanding :) | 17:14 |
| faenil | I'm freaking happy :D | 17:14 |
| faenil | it was very important to pass it (for a lot of reasons) | 17:14 |
| locusf | nice job man :) | 17:15 |
| faenil | :) | 17:15 |
| faenil | 3 left to go | 17:16 |
| locusf | my qmake is acting up | 17:16 |
| faenil | eh, qmake is always acting :D | 17:16 |
| faenil | up* | 17:16 |
| locusf | I'm trying to build maliit-plugins from Morpog_'s graphics | 17:16 |
| locusf | but afaik the plugins are broken | 17:17 |
| Morpog_ | congrats faenil | 17:17 |
| faenil | thanks amn :) | 17:17 |
| faenil | locusf, oh...strange, if it builds on OBS | 17:18 |
| faenil | I'm about to push maliit fix ;) | 17:18 |
| locusf | nice | 17:18 |
| faenil | the dirty one | 17:18 |
| Morpog_ | cool | 17:18 |
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| locusf | well I can take it if its prettier than setOpacity :p | 17:18 |
| faenil | it's the shader stuff | 17:18 |
| locusf | yeah | 17:18 |
| faenil | did you find a better fix? | 17:19 |
| locusf | nope | 17:19 |
| faenil | ah, ok | 17:19 |
| locusf | not enough skillz | 17:21 |
| faenil | scp: read-only filesystem... uh? | 17:21 |
| faenil | eh, same here, it's a mess :) | 17:21 |
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| locusf | did you push the reparent issue? | 17:24 |
| locusf | maliit start in another window now after reboot | 17:24 |
| locusf | ah I forgot that the fix is in colorful-home | 17:25 |
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| faenil | I didn't push anything yet | 17:28 |
| locusf | ok | 17:28 |
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| faenil | maliit not working correctly :/ | 17:32 |
| Morpog_ | faenil, what I don't understand with this maliit (or qtwayland) bug: Why isn't it happening in sailfishos? | 17:32 |
| faenil | because they use the same fix that I'm pushing | 17:33 |
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| Morpog_ | Ah, ok, so that fix is already being used in sailfishos? | 17:33 |
| faenil | it's jolla's guys who gave me the fix | 17:33 |
| faenil | yes | 17:33 |
| Morpog_ | ok | 17:33 |
| locusf | oh | 17:33 |
| locusf | no wonder its not fixed then if even they couldn't do it :D | 17:34 |
| faenil | well I think it's been there for quite a while, and they're working on other stuff | 17:34 |
| faenil | also, they use shaders a lot, so they may also need that thing for other reasons | 17:34 |
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| locusf | ok | 17:41 |
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| faenil | ok PR for maliit fix is ready | 17:48 |
| faenil | https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick-colorful-home/pull/25 | 17:49 |
| faenil | w00t, ^ | 17:49 |
| faenil | dinner, bbl | 17:50 |
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| Morpog_ | i hate inkscape :( | 17:51 |
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| locusf | hmm my maliit plugins are blocked :/ | 18:04 |
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| locusf | tested faenils fix, it works perfectly :) | 18:08 |
| locusf | Files could not be expanded: service in progress | 18:15 |
| locusf | hmm wtf | 18:15 |
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| locusf | faenil: tested your fix, all ok | 18:38 |
| faenil | locusf, yeah read the comment, thank you ;) | 18:38 |
| faenil | we have to hide the window from task switcher now | 18:38 |
| locusf | yeah :D | 18:39 |
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| faenil | I'll test and push afterwards | 18:41 |
| Morpog_ | qwazix, how do you do those 45 degree lines in disabled buttons? I tried with pattern and rotated pattern, but it doesn't tile well :( | 18:48 |
| qwazix | pattern in inkscape, (shift+ctrl+f) and then rotate using the node tool (doubleclick the object) | 18:49 |
| qwazix | I have a tileable png in the repo, did you try that? | 18:50 |
| qwazix | Morpog_ just pushed the latest, you can download the svg and see how it's done | 18:52 |
| Morpog_ | thx | 18:52 |
| faenil | we're closing to beginning components work guys :) | 18:54 |
| faenil | close* | 18:54 |
| Morpog_ | great :) | 18:54 |
| Morpog_ | I try to workout how to do vkb keys best, so they can be produced from SVG's in different sizes | 18:55 |
| Morpog_ | qwazix, in your spec you define disabled button as opacity 0.3, but what color? | 18:57 |
| Morpog_ | just white? | 18:57 |
| Morpog_ | also qwazix I only find png's on github? | 18:58 |
| qwazix | hmm, lemme check | 18:58 |
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| qwazix | Morpog_, https://github.com/qwazix/glacier-controls-spec/blob/master/glacier%20controls.svg | 19:00 |
| qwazix | when spec doesn't specify something, it means it's as above, so in that case white | 19:01 |
| Morpog_ | ok | 19:01 |
| qwazix | there's a bug in the disabled important button | 19:02 |
| qwazix | the text is light instead of semibold | 19:02 |
| qwazix | fixing now, will push to github along with next control | 19:02 |
| qwazix | (hopefully tomorrow) | 19:03 |
| Morpog_ | great | 19:03 |
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| Morpog | qwazix, thanks, that file helped me, so easy when you know how to do it properly...... I tried it with a custom pattern which I created..... | 19:34 |
| Morpog | btw, you specified 14% opacity, but you specced it 30%? | 19:35 |
| Morpog | err, you used 14% in file but specced it 30% | 19:35 |
| qwazix | aligning custom patterns is a tough one | 19:35 |
| qwazix | 0.3 opacity is for the *text* not the pattern | 19:35 |
| Morpog | oh, my bad :) | 19:36 |
| faenil | https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick/pull/78 | 19:36 |
| qwazix | the pattern is full opacity, because I exported the .png already at 0.14 | 19:36 |
| Morpog | ah ok | 19:36 |
| faenil | ^ Maliit window is now hidden from App Switcher :) | 19:36 |
| qwazix | faenil, \o/ | 19:36 |
| faenil | ok, so, keyboard should be working more or less now ;) | 19:37 |
| faenil | iekku, ping | 19:38 |
| faenil | thp, that may be on purpose, but I've seen the commit to systemsettings doesn't have a [tag] :) | 19:39 |
| thp | faenil: good catch; there should probably be "[nemo] Add developer mode settings plugin" in the commit message | 19:43 |
| iekku | faenil, pong | 19:44 |
| faenil | thp, yeah well I think tag is completely up to you ;) usually the short name of the repo is used, for general stuff | 19:44 |
| faenil | like [settings] blabla | 19:44 |
| faenil | or [devmode] dev mode settings backend | 19:44 |
| faenil | but those are just my opinions ;) | 19:44 |
| faenil | iekku, hey lady :) I was thinking if maybe it was the case to hide all the x11 nemo bugs in some hidden folder, and create new folders for wayland nemo | 19:45 |
| faenil | so that we can fill those in | 19:45 |
| iekku | faenil, i think we need separate component, yes. | 19:46 |
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| iekku | faenil, could you please write a bug for that? and cc me? | 19:46 |
| faenil | iekku, I think it is important to put all x11 in a subfolder | 19:47 |
| faenil | and then use the current structure for wayland | 19:47 |
| locusf | good idea | 19:47 |
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| thp | faenil: it depends on the tar_git settings in obs. (see https://build.merproject.org/package/files?package=nemo-qml-plugin-systemsettings&project=nemo%3Adevel%3Amw) | 19:47 |
| locusf | I was talking to juiceme about this | 19:48 |
| faenil | thp, what do you mean? | 19:48 |
| faenil | tar_git just needs one [tag] for each release | 19:48 |
| iekku | faenil, that's possible too. i could move x11 related to some place else | 19:49 |
| thp | faenil: tar_git picks up these [tags] and creates the .changes file | 19:49 |
| iekku | faenil, but please, fill a bug. it needs bit of thinking and conversation before i start changes | 19:49 |
| faenil | thp, yes exactly, it's not important what you put in the tag ;) as long as there is one [tagged] commit for each new release | 19:49 |
| faenil | iekku, where? | 19:49 |
| iekku | faenil, https://bugs.nemomobile.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Nemo%20Infra | 19:50 |
| faenil | iekku, I can't find a suitable category for stuff like this | 19:50 |
| faenil | ah ok ;) | 19:50 |
| iekku | and select Bugzilla | 19:50 |
| faenil | ok thanks :) | 19:50 |
| iekku | and when done, cc me | 19:50 |
| iekku | i try to host triages on next monday | 19:50 |
| iekku | even i just got 2 weeks more sick leave | 19:51 |
| iekku | but now i need to get some sleep | 19:51 |
| iekku | faenil, and thanks for really good idea | 19:51 |
| NeeDforKill | hi all | 19:51 |
| faenil | oh np :) | 19:51 |
| faenil | iekku, sleep well ma'am | 19:51 |
| faenil | NeeDforKill, o/ | 19:51 |
| NeeDforKill | Andrea how are u? | 19:52 |
| faenil | fine, fine ;) passed a difficult uni exam today, I'm super happy | 19:53 |
| faenil | just a bit tired, slept 5 hours in 2 days :D | 19:53 |
| Aard | faenil: so you'll come back to hacking now? :) | 19:54 |
| faenil | Aard, \o/ | 19:56 |
| faenil | I've got 4 days! | 19:56 |
| faenil | + SmartDevCon | 19:56 |
| faenil | so about 1 week, then nothing until end of october :( (maybe evenings if I find some time) | 19:57 |
| NeeDforKill | maliit | 19:57 |
| faenil | NeeDforKill, it's fixed already, the Pull Requests are waiting to be reviewed | 19:58 |
| NeeDforKill | good job guys =)) | 19:58 |
| faenil | it's jolla's stuff :) thank them :) | 19:58 |
| NeeDforKill | so mb locusf or SledgeSim build new image | 19:59 |
| NeeDforKill | Thank jolla =)) | 19:59 |
| faenil | so, can anybody tell me what happened in the last few days? :D | 20:00 |
| faenil | thp, are you attending SmartDevCon' | 20:01 |
| faenil | ? | 20:01 |
| Aard | faenil: jolla became finlands largest mobile phone manufacturer :p | 20:01 |
| faenil | Aard, ahaha yeah read about that :D | 20:02 |
| faenil | and I guess many people got fired somewhere in finland? | 20:02 |
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| locusf | NeeDforKill: sure, first thing in the morning | 20:02 |
| faenil | (which isn't very happy) | 20:02 |
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| faenil | Argh, I need thermal paste, and have to open and clear my lappy | 20:02 |
| faenil | clean* | 20:02 |
| NeeDforKill | locusf i will be happy )) | 20:02 |
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| faenil | I'm so happy guys you have no idea :D | 20:04 |
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| thp | faenil: nope | 20:14 |
| faenil | thp, aww pity :/ | 20:15 |
| faenil | I guess you guys don't have time to waste on conferences :D | 20:15 |
| faenil | locusf, ping | 20:20 |
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| fk_lx | thp: you would be welcome anyway if you wanted to attend | 20:25 |
| faenil | so, are we just wasting time here? | 20:33 |
| faenil | let's get back to work! | 20:33 |
| faenil | what needs doing? :D | 20:33 |
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| faenil | locusf, ping | 20:33 |
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| Morpog | faenil, you wanna rework maliit? | 20:43 |
| Morpog | nemo keyboard of course | 20:43 |
| faenil | Morpog, locusf is already working on it | 20:43 |
| faenil | (I guess) | 20:43 |
| Morpog | well, that was only with themed pictures | 20:44 |
| Morpog | I've redone it now, so each key consists of 3 graphics | 20:44 |
| Morpog | left, middle, right | 20:44 |
| Morpog | and middle is tileable and repeated | 20:44 |
| Morpog | also added pressed and disabled keys | 20:45 |
| Morpog | it all just needs QML changes :) | 20:45 |
| NeeDforKill | nice | 20:45 |
| faenil | I see :) | 20:45 |
| faenil | I'd better leave it to locusf when he's done with the graphics, keyboard is boring :D | 20:46 |
| MSameer | faenil: so you were at the jolla launch event and I didn't know ? :( | 20:46 |
| * MSameer slaps faenil | 20:46 | |
| faenil | MSameer, oh crap | 20:46 |
| faenil | well, nobody knows much about you :P so... | 20:46 |
| * faenil hits MSameer with a trout | 20:46 | |
| MSameer | :D | 20:46 |
| MSameer | there is always next time | 20:48 |
| Morpog | faenil, well locusf tried the old graphics :) | 20:49 |
| Morpog | MSameer, I guess next Jolla device launch will take a good while :) | 20:50 |
| MSameer | Morpog: :) | 20:50 |
| MSameer | i hope so | 20:50 |
| special | being able to relax one day is a nice dream | 20:51 |
| special | not likely, though. | 20:51 |
| MSameer | me + relaxation don't mix :) | 20:52 |
| faenil | special, get back to work! | 20:53 |
| special | I just finished a burrito and coffee, that's my relaxation for the day | 20:53 |
| Morpog | oh stskeeps in the news again | 20:55 |
| Morpog | http://t.co/2ZuDMMtxOT | 20:55 |
| faenil | awesome! | 20:59 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, congrats! | 20:59 |
| faenil | special, can you review https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick/pull/78 and https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick-colorful-home/pull/25 ? | 21:00 |
| wmarone | cool idea, but that little article is terribly written | 21:02 |
| MSameer | Hybris was originally written by a Mer developer who went on to join Jolla | 21:03 |
| MSameer | wth | 21:03 |
| MSameer | this should have been: Hybris was originally written by Carsten Munk, a Mer developer | 21:03 |
| wmarone | like I said | 21:03 |
| wmarone | terribly written article | 21:03 |
| MSameer | yeah | 21:03 |
| MSameer | it makes it sound like Stskeeps ripped off hybris from the poor mer developer :P | 21:04 |
| ajalkane | It sounds like Jolla snatched Stskeeps with perhaps malicious intent after he had written the compatibility layer :P | 21:05 |
| faenil | ah, lol, right | 21:05 |
| faenil | yeah more like ajalkane says | 21:05 |
| MSameer | or even: the original developer wrote it, went on to join jolla and then Stskeeps came and made it possible to run wayland :p | 21:05 |
| faenil | ahaha | 21:05 |
| MSameer | maybe he can make hybris fix my bugs too :P | 21:06 |
| faenil | lol | 21:06 |
| Morpog | :) | 21:08 |
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| special | faenil: yes, I'll look in a bit | 21:08 |
| faenil | special, ok thank you ;) | 21:09 |
| faenil | special, I'll try again without the Connection then :/ | 21:20 |
| special | it'd be nice to remove if it's not necessary | 21:20 |
| special | but if you run into problems it's fine | 21:21 |
| faenil | it didn't make much sense to me either | 21:22 |
| faenil | but I assumed I didn't understand the hidden behaviours of the compositor | 21:22 |
| special | hidden behaviors should be minimal and are probably bugs :) | 21:24 |
| special | (like this transparent windows one.) | 21:24 |
| faenil | one day I'll speed up nemo wayland on n950 :/ | 21:25 |
| faenil | one day.. | 21:25 |
| special | whoa, this USB cable is more shielded than most power cables. Why. | 21:26 |
| Aard | for better audio quality, if you copy mp3s to the device via usb? | 21:27 |
| faenil | when I see the price of notebooks in Germany, I cry | 21:30 |
| faenil | :( | 21:30 |
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| Aard | why do you look at prices of notebooks in germany? | 21:31 |
| faenil | don't know how I ended up looking at that | 21:31 |
| * Aard cries when I look at any modern notebook. I want a good old thinkbrick I can use to beat people to death | 21:32 | |
| faenil | ahah | 21:37 |
| faenil | anyway, a very good laptop is 399€ in germany, which here is about 599 :/ | 21:37 |
| faenil | it's like wtf | 21:37 |
| faenil | very good as in long battery life and avg performance :) | 21:39 |
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| NeeDforKill | better look price in CIS :D | 21:39 |
| special | faenil: clearly you aren't an Apple user :> | 21:39 |
| faenil | special, too pricy :P | 21:40 |
| faenil | special, also, I don't like buying a laptop for 3 times the price of a competitor laptop with same hardware :D | 21:45 |
| special | haha | 21:45 |
| special | apple's build quality is very, very nice. | 21:45 |
| special | and I like OS X | 21:45 |
| Aard | special: they come without clitoris, and I hate the keyboard and mirror-display | 21:46 |
| faenil | :) | 21:46 |
| special | ..took me a solid 30 seconds to figure out what "clitoris" was referring to :p | 21:46 |
| faenil | ahaha | 21:47 |
| faenil | yeah, then there are thinkpad fanboys :P | 21:47 |
| special | I like the keyboard, and mine is a matte display | 21:47 |
| special | and nobody else has trackpads as good as apple's | 21:47 |
| * faenil let the thinkpad-macbook fight begin! I'll be the referee :D | 21:48 | |
| Aard | special: I hate lenovo for not making the trackpads optional in the newer thinkpads. it just adds edges for collecting dirt to the hand rest | 21:48 |
| * faenil Aard pew-pews special | 21:48 | |
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| faenil | bbl | 21:52 |
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| faenil | back | 22:27 |
| faenil | so, is the latest jolla proto the final one? | 22:27 |
| special | do you expect an answer to that? :p | 22:29 |
| faenil | special, well, marc said "I have it after 2 years, it's what we made" or something like that | 22:34 |
| faenil | but he already had a proto before that | 22:34 |
| faenil | so if he wrote that it means this one is "different" :P | 22:35 |
| faenil | mence I was thinking it could be the final one :D | 22:35 |
| Aard | faenil: yes, it's the final layout for the batch of protos where this proto is part of. :p | 22:36 |
| faenil | ah ok :D | 22:36 |
| special | haha | 22:36 |
| faenil | s/mence/hence | 22:36 |
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| faenil | mmm QTransform::translate with NaN called | 22:44 |
| special | qt-components? | 22:44 |
| faenil | could be | 22:44 |
| special | I think I've seen that when there are theme images missing | 22:44 |
| special | missing image -> width/height of 0 -> divide by 0 -> NaN | 22:44 |
| special | in qtquick1 you could break the entire view by giving an item a y of NaN | 22:45 |
| faenil | though there are no warnings about theme images | 22:46 |
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| faenil | in main page of qmlmessages there is no error, then I click "+" | 22:48 |
| faenil | and they appear | 22:48 |
| faenil | 7-8 of them | 22:49 |
| faenil | anyway ok I won't care about them atm | 22:49 |
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| faenil | mmm still some maliit issues, keyboard opens -> I send app to bg --> send another app to fg -> I see keyboard animating to bottom, and some times it gets stuck while animating :( | 22:53 |
| faenil | ffs | 22:55 |
| faenil | good night o/ | 23:02 |
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| gry | what's new? | 23:51 |
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