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| stephg | :( | 08:41 |
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| fk_lx | Sage: life is about choices, maybe when the Sailfish is released you will have more time to dedicate for Nemo | 09:04 |
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| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#405 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/405 | 09:30 |
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| locusf | Aard: ping | 13:19 |
| Aard | pong | 13:23 |
| locusf | Aard: hi, w00t told me to ping you about kicking the modem online in N9 with ofono? | 13:25 |
| locusf | I understood that its done via qmlpinquery which I have done but my calls are still stuck at dialing | 13:25 |
| w00t | Aard: was wondering whether that was related to the modem not going online issue you had | 13:26 |
| w00t | iirc you solved it somehow? | 13:26 |
| Aard | problem is that the modem is not coming up reliably, and might need to get kicked multiple times | 13:26 |
| locusf | nb. to community, uploading a Wayland testing image for N9/50 | 13:26 |
| w00t | Aard: how do you do the kicking? (to test if that is related) | 13:27 |
| RzR | great | 13:27 |
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| locusf | this will be a very much testing image, with bleeding edge software, so don't cut yourself :) | 13:28 |
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| Aard | w00t: locusf: we basically did a shell script containing /usr/lib/ofono/test/enable-modem; /usr/lib/ofono/test/online-modem and put a link on the desktop to call that shell script | 13:32 |
| Aard | and if modem does not come up you tap on it until it does :) | 13:32 |
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| Aard | originally we had that called during startup, but didn't work reliably, and delayed boot | 13:33 |
| Aard | it's just a workaround, for a real fix somebody needs to dive into ofono and check what's broken there | 13:33 |
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| locusf | hmm I guess I'll put me trunks on then :) | 13:38 |
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| Aard | locusf: while you're in there, there's another bug specific to n9. there's a workaround in isi-modem for making sure that the operator name is correctly resolved, and this workaround almost never triggers on n9 -> you just see the numeric operator id | 13:39 |
| Aard | also note that the current version of ofono will stay until we manage to go to bluez5 -> if you manage to fix it we need to carry a patch for some time | 13:41 |
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| locusf | Aard: ok | 13:48 |
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| locusf | heres the image | 14:08 |
| locusf | http://db.tt/kUP2aD14 | 14:09 |
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| mord | oh the temptation (i only have the n9 i use daily) | 14:22 |
| cxl000 | w00t, for qtquickcontrols do you want me to create a tar_git repo on github | 14:22 |
| w00t | cxl000: will you need to modify it, or is the styling done externally? | 14:23 |
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| locusf | oh hey mord :) | 14:36 |
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| stephg | downloading that image, will have a play with my n9 :) | 14:42 |
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| faenil | hello o/ | 14:48 |
| faenil | w00t, the styles are in that git repo, so either we do an external repo and copy files in the Private folder of controls, or we have to modify that repo | 14:49 |
| faenil | cxl000, do you have any opinion about where to put glacier UI's styles? | 14:51 |
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| faenil | all gone.... | 14:56 |
| faenil | ok I'll go back to study | 14:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: no | 14:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm here ! | 14:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but I won't be helpful :( | 14:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | good luck with studies | 14:57 |
| cxl000 | faenil, no but if the repo needs modifying then it should go in nemo | 14:58 |
| locusf | do we fork colorful-home for glacier? | 15:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | locusf: don't know but could be a good starting point | 15:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | isn't it ? | 15:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | damn, I'm so late in the Nemo front | 15:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | need to take some time and pick it up | 15:03 |
| stephg | locusf, it boots, which is good :) | 15:03 |
| locusf | stephg: cool :) | 15:04 |
| locusf | stephg: might have some graphics issues | 15:04 |
| stephg | yes, yes it does :) | 15:05 |
| locusf | stephg: n9 or n950? | 15:06 |
| stephg | n9 | 15:06 |
| locusf | ok | 15:06 |
| stephg | there are lots of problems (which is fine) but the one I find oddest is that it does tear alot | 15:06 |
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| locusf | oh | 15:09 |
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| faenil | stephg, yes, no VSync, lot's of tearing at the moment | 15:11 |
| faenil | and there is no plan (currently) to fix that | 15:11 |
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| stephg | yeah that's exactly what it looks like | 15:14 |
| stephg | but very cool that it works | 15:14 |
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| Morpog_PC | anyone around? | 19:20 |
| locusf | yup | 19:20 |
| Morpog_PC | like that http://abload.de/img/calculator36s1h.png | 19:20 |
| Morpog_PC | or like that http://abload.de/img/calculator-invertedcrsav.png | 19:21 |
| locusf | I don't see much difference, but I'm not a graphics guy | 19:21 |
| Morpog_PC | ? :D | 19:21 |
| Morpog_PC | background colors are swapped for top/bottom :) | 19:22 |
| locusf | ah | 19:22 |
| Morpog_PC | I like both :) | 19:23 |
| locusf | I like theupper one | 19:23 |
| Morpog_PC | qwazix, Hurrian, faenil, sledges, opinions? | 19:23 |
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| qwazix | Morpog_PC, clearly the first one | 19:27 |
| Morpog_PC | ok, clean like that or shall I add buttons? | 19:27 |
| w|aw | Morpog_PC: I would go for different font in "display" I would also change "C"lear button's position | 19:28 |
| w|aw | *font color | 19:29 |
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| Morpog_PC | Well, it's same font for all symbols there, open sans | 19:29 |
| Morpog_PC | where should the clear button be? | 19:29 |
| Morpog_PC | I just too 1:1 old nemo calculator positions | 19:29 |
| Morpog_PC | took | 19:30 |
| wook | Yeah, but users somehow goy used to...nokia one | 19:30 |
| Morpog_PC | thats old nemo one: http://abload.de/img/nemo-calcw4sxx.png | 19:30 |
| Morpog_PC | C is on same position on harmattans calculator btw :) | 19:31 |
| wook | yes | 19:31 |
| wook | just saw it | 19:31 |
| wook | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/562845_469532939733267_1010552116_n.jpg | 19:31 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, I would go for a little bit more advanced calculator | 19:31 |
| wook | but there's < button | 19:31 |
| Morpog_PC | < is for single digit erase | 19:32 |
| wook | yes, yes | 19:32 |
| Morpog_PC | should be added there too | 19:32 |
| wook | should be | 19:32 |
| Morpog_PC | qwazix, well someone needs to do coding of a more advanced one though | 19:32 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, speedcrunch | 19:33 |
| Morpog_PC | maye simple one first and later a settings button where you can change layout? | 19:33 |
| wook | I agree with Morpog_PC | 19:33 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, that's my take on the calculator front, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84011 | 19:35 |
| wook | qwazix, that's for extra calculator... | 19:36 |
| Morpog_PC | looking nice | 19:36 |
| wook | I wouldn't include it as default one...it's too complicated for most TMO users...:D | 19:37 |
| Morpog_PC | surely something I would welcome for an advanced calculator | 19:37 |
| qwazix | wook, why make it two apps when it can accommodate both? The opening page is still simple enough, and really nobody needs such huge buttons | 19:37 |
| wook | That's correct, and maybe like implemented in windows, there can be few modes...? | 19:38 |
| qwazix | when it opens there isn't even a hint of complex functions, except parenthesis | 19:38 |
| qwazix | if you want advanced functions you just swipe the keyboard and get more | 19:38 |
| wook | :) nice | 19:38 |
| qwazix | anyway, I'm biased, so I'll leave this to you to decide | 19:39 |
| wook | it is very nice calculator qwazix | 19:39 |
| Stskeeps | so we have w00t and wook, this could get funny | 19:39 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:39 |
| Morpog_PC | I'm not the coder, I just UI design based on old available apps that need to get restyled :) | 19:40 |
| w00t | hmm.. :P | 19:40 |
| Morpog_PC | design UI, not UI design :) | 19:40 |
| wook | you can call me wolf :P :D | 19:40 |
| zetaz | You may find this page interesting, as it expose a lot of UI calculator concepts : https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/Apps/Calculator | 19:41 |
| wook | i am good with Inkscape - svg/png... | 19:42 |
| Morpog_PC | wook and you got lots of time to spend? :) | 19:42 |
| wook | well, sometimes I really do | 19:43 |
| Morpog_PC | zetaz, it should match Glacier UI style | 19:43 |
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| zetaz | Morpog_PC: I agree, it was only an extensive source of design idea, if you add the question about where to put which button, or add some functionnality to it | 19:45 |
| zetaz | had* | 19:45 |
| Morpog_PC | ah ok | 19:45 |
| Morpog_PC | wook, If you like enter Glacier UI team | 19:45 |
| wook | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85941 | 19:46 |
| wook | can we do something like this? | 19:46 |
| locusf | now that we have an ice-slick qt5 Glacier could happen | 19:46 |
| Morpog_PC | wook, existing concepts are covered here: http://play.qwazix.com/grog/ | 19:47 |
| wook | I saw | 19:48 |
| Morpog_PC | I dunno whats planned in regard of homescreens | 19:48 |
| wook | Homescreen should have ability of adding plugins from 3rd party devs, showing notifications in statusbar.... | 19:48 |
| qwazix | wook, Morpog_PC, there's a plan that I find very solid and easy to use for homescreen, I will blog about it soon | 19:49 |
| wook | http://stwoo.tk/?-projects$-redVista$index.psp | 19:49 |
| Morpog_PC | ah sounds great, maybe wook got some ideas for you still? | 19:49 |
| wook | good, qwazix :) just "plugins" | 19:49 |
| wook | themeing should go slick aaaand easy ;) | 19:50 |
| qwazix | Ideas are always welcome. I just want to make sure we don't overdo it with features. | 19:52 |
| qwazix | And because home is qml, (a) plugins are easy, and (b) forks are easy | 19:53 |
| wook | I will need help with QTCreator on win x64 :S | 19:53 |
| qwazix | so the plan is to go with a simple but first class, polished and premium experience, and leave the gazillion features to optional packages | 19:53 |
| wook | that's sounds great qwazix, it's always better to leave room for new implementations than to prevent it | 19:54 |
| qwazix | this is a writeup of what we don't want to do http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=285 | 19:54 |
| wook | guys, any of you used htc manilla? | 19:55 |
| Morpog_PC | nope | 19:56 |
| wook | touch flo | 19:56 |
| wook | thing | 19:56 |
| qwazix | and here's some early thoughts about the home screen http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=6 | 19:56 |
| wook | on windows mobile | 19:56 |
| qwazix | wook, yeah | 19:56 |
| qwazix | dreadful | 19:56 |
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| qwazix | (probably due to crappy WinMo and slow HW) | 19:57 |
| wook | i loved touch flo more than anything, i even wrote something similar for symbian (in pys60) | 19:57 |
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| qwazix | I had the QtekS200 aka htc prophet, and touchflo never worked nicely | 19:58 |
| wook | ohh, you should have hermes 100 | 19:58 |
| wook | i had few | 19:59 |
| wook | :) | 19:59 |
| faenil | goood evening! :D | 19:59 |
| faenil | wook, hey mate! :) | 19:59 |
| wook | heya faenil, sup? :) | 20:00 |
| wook | good evening | 20:00 |
| faenil | wook, finished daily study, can have some fun now for about 2h :D | 20:00 |
| wook | hahahaha, kids.... :D | 20:00 |
| faenil | wook, :P | 20:00 |
| wook | :P | 20:00 |
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| faenil | Morpog_N9____, I can't decide :D | 20:01 |
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| Morpog_PC | yeah, I had same problem, but seems #nemomobile likes black one more, so I chose that one | 20:02 |
| Morpog_PC | with added delete button: http://abload.de/img/calculatoryass0.png | 20:03 |
| wook | then we could use "display" skin on top part | 20:03 |
| wook | and what about landscape??? | 20:03 |
| Morpog_PC | well, I guess this will be a portrait oriented UI for most stuff | 20:04 |
| * wook don't like just portrait idea | 20:04 | |
| Morpog_PC | not only, but for most stuff | 20:04 |
| * wook use landscape most of the time | 20:04 | |
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| qwazix | Morpog_PC, in nemo everything works both ways, and we should try to keep that. | 20:05 |
| wook | great :D | 20:05 |
| qwazix | It not only is better for users but it also helps write better code | 20:06 |
| wook | afaik first time I tried nemo, it booted in landscape | 20:06 |
| qwazix | that adapts easily to other screen sizes/aspects | 20:06 |
| wook | that's very correct | 20:06 |
| Morpog_PC | qwazix, it's hard to master both orientations everywhere | 20:06 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, it's not easy, I know, but it is from the beginning one of the requirements for nemo apps and it should stay that way | 20:07 |
| qwazix | games are of course excluded | 20:07 |
| Morpog_PC | well, shouldn't be too hard for calaculator :) | 20:07 |
| Morpog_PC | Icefox should work quite well too with some scpacing | 20:08 |
| qwazix | no it's not. Keypad on the right side, result on the left is one easy solution | 20:08 |
| qwazix | for browser it's more than mandatory, I don't think anybody could imagine a portrait-only browser | 20:08 |
| Morpog_PC | sure | 20:09 |
| Morpog_PC | i would hate it :) | 20:09 |
| faenil | special, so what should we use as pulseaudio for wayland? | 20:09 |
| special | ? | 20:09 |
| wook | hold on a second | 20:09 |
| special | oh, as a replacement for the pulseaudio x11 plugin? | 20:09 |
| locusf | yes | 20:09 |
| faenil | special, yep | 20:10 |
| qwazix | night people! | 20:10 |
| wook | night qwazix | 20:10 |
| wook | http://sta.sh/024594kn2ojj | 20:11 |
| faenil | qwazix, hey hey! | 20:12 |
| faenil | going to bed already? | 20:12 |
| faenil | let's do some planning first! :P | 20:12 |
| faenil | wook, didn't know you were good with graphics :) | 20:12 |
| wook | didn't??? | 20:12 |
| wook | :-O i am best :P :D | 20:13 |
| special | afaik you don't need anything. | 20:13 |
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| Morpog_PC | night qwazix | 20:13 |
| locusf | special: http://pastie.org/8271667 | 20:13 |
| qwazix | faenil, what planning? | 20:13 |
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| locusf | special: it seems that pulseaudio rolls over and dies a bunch of times on wayland because it misses x11 | 20:14 |
| qwazix | can we do it tomorrow? I'll be available after 7:00pm my time (6:00pm yours?) | 20:14 |
| faenil | qwazix, let's talk about components, we're still stuck | 20:14 |
| special | if I could get this damn VM to start.. | 20:14 |
| special | locusf: is that with the x11 plugin installed? | 20:14 |
| locusf | special: yes | 20:15 |
| special | uninstall it | 20:15 |
| locusf | special: ok | 20:15 |
| faenil | locusf, you installed x11 module? | 20:15 |
| qwazix | faenil, ok for tomorrow? I really got to go. | 20:15 |
| faenil | qwazix, just 2 minutes really? | 20:16 |
| faenil | :) | 20:16 |
| qwazix | ok | 20:16 |
| qwazix | hit me | 20:16 |
| faenil | qwazix, so, Hurrian is making apps mockups | 20:16 |
| faenil | qwazix, what is your plan? will you make mockups too? | 20:16 |
| faenil | when will we think about real components sizes and behaviours? | 20:16 |
| qwazix | no, I feel hurrian's mockups are very good | 20:16 |
| faenil | yes, but they're not enough to style components | 20:16 |
| locusf | faenil: it came with the image | 20:16 |
| Morpog_PC | faenil, you told me to do app mockups instead of thinking about components :) | 20:17 |
| qwazix | I hope I can start making components this week | 20:17 |
| faenil | locusf, shouldn't, I removed it...but I'll look into that then | 20:17 |
| faenil | qwazix, we don't have behaviours and colors, and texts | 20:17 |
| locusf | faenil: well I've got an old .ks | 20:17 |
| faenil | qwazix, most of the needed info are missing to style components | 20:17 |
| faenil | qwazix, the current mockups are not enough | 20:17 |
| faenil | for example pressed - released states for buttons | 20:17 |
| faenil | are not specified anywhere | 20:17 |
| qwazix | faenil, ok, you'll have the first batch by friday, is that ok? | 20:17 |
| Morpog_PC | plus they are not latest ones, hurrians said background is now all black everywhere | 20:17 |
| faenil | qwazix, no pressure, I just wanted to know what you thought about it ;) | 20:18 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC yeah because Hurrian chose that way | 20:18 |
| Morpog_PC | so you gonna create them including qml qwazix? | 20:18 |
| qwazix | (If I don't put some pressure I'll never do it so, that's it) | 20:18 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, I'd prefer to finish spec first before diving into qml | 20:18 |
| faenil | locusf, the first one I sent you didn't have x11 as far as I remember | 20:18 |
| Morpog_PC | ok start now doing them qwazix! :D | 20:19 |
| faenil | maybe something is pulling it in | 20:19 |
| faenil | or it's really -x11 in the ks? | 20:19 |
| Morpog_PC | *joke* | 20:19 |
| qwazix | :P | 20:19 |
| Morpog_PC | were my ideas about components helpful, or did I fail at all with it? | 20:20 |
| locusf | faenil: it did .. | 20:20 |
| locusf | faenil: but anyways, made a first call with wayland enabled voicecall | 20:20 |
| faenil | locusf, AWESOME! :) | 20:20 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, I might have missed that, where is it? | 20:20 |
| Morpog_PC | locusf, wow | 20:20 |
| faenil | locusf, you're having too much fun, I'm envious! :P | 20:20 |
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| Morpog_PC | on grog? | 20:21 |
| qwazix | Morpog_PC, latest post on grog? Yeah that was good | 20:21 |
| faenil | I want to be here all day like until a week ago! :p | 20:21 |
| Morpog_PC | have no experience about qml at all other than changing some size values and colors :D | 20:21 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC that's all it takes :D | 20:22 |
| wook | hey, folks, why nemo don't support .deb? | 20:22 |
| faenil | almost :D | 20:22 |
| Morpog_PC | wook, because it's based on MeR | 20:22 |
| faenil | wook, you might want to hear w00t's and special's reply | 20:22 |
| wook | probably I do | 20:22 |
| Morpog_PC | wook, you gonna like zypper :) | 20:23 |
| faenil | (let's see if they reply :D ) | 20:23 |
| wook | hahaha :D | 20:23 |
| faenil | locusf, does sound work now? | 20:23 |
| qwazix | anyway, faenil, you covered for now? Plan is to go with Hurrian's mockups mostly (except one or two things like timepicker, that I find hard to use) and I'll start speccing components from tomorrow | 20:23 |
| wook | I don't think so, because I want nokia store working on nemo....:D | 20:23 |
| locusf | faenil: it does for calls, I did test with music player but that didn't work | 20:23 |
| faenil | qwazix, I'm not going anywhere with the mockups, I tried to style components, and missed lots of stuff | 20:24 |
| Morpog_PC | qwazix, will you do some type of tab based navigation like I used in Icefox? I did miss those in hurrians mockups. | 20:24 |
| faenil | qwazix, but yeah I'm covered, I don't have much time these days because of exams so I can wait for next updates from you, Hurrian Morpog_PC ;) | 20:24 |
| qwazix | Ok, I know what it takes to create components (I created half of BB10 look-alike components from scratch) so I think my spec will cover you. | 20:24 |
| Morpog_PC | great | 20:25 |
| faenil | qwazix, awesome! :) | 20:25 |
| faenil | qwazix, last question, what did you create the bb10 components for? | 20:25 |
| faenil | in QML? or what? | 20:25 |
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| qwazix | Morpog_PC, tabs are a hard beast, should be used sparingly on mobile (especially portrait). We'll have them but we have to communicate that we don't want them overused | 20:25 |
| Morpog_PC | faenil, maybe he tried porting BB10 apps to harmattan? | 20:26 |
| qwazix | faenil, my calculator | 20:26 |
| qwazix | wanted it to look native on BB10 | 20:26 |
| Morpog_PC | ah, the other way around | 20:26 |
| faenil | qwazix, I see, and you didn't want to port it to cascades XD | 20:26 |
| qwazix | yeah | 20:27 |
| qwazix | Ok then! Cya tomorrow | 20:27 |
| wook | cya qwazix | 20:28 |
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| faenil | qwazix, sleep well ;) | 20:28 |
| faenil | wook, maybe special and w00t are busy right now :) | 20:28 |
| wook | probably :D | 20:28 |
| faenil | they work 24/7 on sailfish :D | 20:28 |
| wook | ohhh | 20:28 |
| faenil | (and nemo MW) | 20:28 |
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| wook | btw, I killed my n950 :S | 20:31 |
| faenil | what did you do? :D | 20:31 |
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| wook | seems like flasher can't read device informations like hw rev and id | 20:31 |
| faenil | or also Stskeeps? can you reply wook's question? rpm vs deb | 20:32 |
| wook | but I got other one ;) :D | 20:32 |
| faenil | lol | 20:32 |
| wook | way better than 0724 | 20:32 |
| Morpog_PC | hmmm, It's maybe a good idea to have advanced calculator on landscape and simple one on portrait. So no settings button needed wasting space | 20:33 |
| wook | Morpog_PC, it's too much space already... | 20:33 |
| Aard | wook: even with deb harmattan binaries wouldn't work | 20:33 |
| Morpog_PC | wook? | 20:34 |
| wook | not all, but there could be some tweaking | 20:34 |
| wook | like chrooting? | 20:34 |
| wook | Morpog_PC, display is really huge for simple calculator, that's my opinion | 20:34 |
| Morpog_PC | ah well, could add a row more with some functions | 20:35 |
| wook | :) | 20:35 |
| wook | (Y) | 20:35 |
| wook | :D | 20:35 |
| Morpog_PC | but not for this mockup, it's mainly there yet to replace existing app (and I already added a new button :D there) | 20:36 |
| wook | :D you did :D | 20:37 |
| wook | have you seen my idea? | 20:37 |
| wook | of "display"? | 20:37 |
| Morpog_PC | yep, you seem to like that glossy stuff :) | 20:38 |
| Morpog_PC | a bit greenish for my like | 20:38 |
| wook | yeees I do | 20:38 |
| wook | well...an old display :D | 20:38 |
| wook | do you need that glossy stuff? :D | 20:38 |
| Morpog_PC | nowaydays flat style is the new glossy ;) | 20:39 |
| wook | that can be make glossy too.... | 20:39 |
| wook | ;) | 20:39 |
| wook | like crystal | 20:39 |
| Morpog_PC | rofl | 20:39 |
| Aard | wook: everything more complex when a fart app will hit issues somewhere | 20:39 |
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| wook | Aard, I guess so... | 20:40 |
| Stskeeps | it's a historical thing (rpm vs deb), we've leveraged an actual mobile OS to create a good mobile OS core | 20:41 |
| wook | but, honestly, If sailfish claims to run harmattan apps......then nemo should too | 20:41 |
| Stskeeps | and RPM was the choice | 20:41 |
| Aard | wook: where do we claim to run harmattan apps? | 20:42 |
| wook | Ohh, I guess users claims...then | 20:42 |
| Aard | we claim that porting is easy | 20:42 |
| wook | Aard: my bad :) | 20:43 |
| wook | Stskeeps: I had hard time to make deb packager for windows, rpm will force me to use linux which I can not use more than few minutes a day :S | 20:43 |
| faenil | wook, sell that notebook and get one at the same price without a SiS gpu :p | 20:46 |
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| wook | Nope, I need to buy DSLR and macro lenses :S | 20:47 |
| faenil | you missed same price :D | 20:47 |
| wook | no, I didn't, it would be "notebook can wait...." :D | 20:48 |
| Stskeeps | wook: we provide a very nice build engine vm with sailfishos/mer :P | 20:48 |
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| * special was out getting coffee | 20:48 | |
| faenil | special, o/ in USA atm right? | 20:49 |
| special | yeah | 20:49 |
| wook | Stskeeps: I had it somewhere :-O | 20:49 |
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| faenil | w00t, any reason why qmlsettings isn't using the components booster? | 20:49 |
| faenil | it's using MDeclCache::qQuickView, but it doesn't have HAS_BOOSTER defined (missing stuff in pro) | 20:50 |
| special | sounds like a bug | 20:50 |
| special | how is it using MDeclCache with no qdeclarative5-boostable? | 20:51 |
| faenil | special, it's in #ifdef so it's not really calling it | 20:52 |
| locusf | argh that'd be my bug :) | 20:52 |
| faenil | locusf, it should be there by before the porting ;) | 20:52 |
| locusf | ah ok | 20:52 |
| faenil | special, same for filemuncher....mmm | 20:53 |
| faenil | ah no filemuncher has it ;) | 20:53 |
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| faenil | special, https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlpinquery/pull/7 | 21:07 |
| mikhas | oh, nemo repos are on github? I must have been under a rock | 21:08 |
| w00t | mikhas: they've been there for a long time now :} | 21:08 |
| w00t | faenil: do you have a nemo image handy? | 21:08 |
| faenil | w00t, for what platform | 21:09 |
| w00t | anything, ideally a phone | 21:09 |
| faenil | locusf updated one for n950 | 21:09 |
| w00t | can you rpm -e libofono-qt on it please? | 21:09 |
| faenil | uploaded sorry | 21:09 |
| w00t | (and if it complains, pastebin) | 21:09 |
| faenil | sure, switching on n950 | 21:10 |
| w00t | thanks :) | 21:10 |
| special | ooh, there is a n950 wayland image now? | 21:10 |
| * w00t hopes to move it to https://github.com/nemomobile-graveyard | 21:10 | |
| locusf | special: sure there is :) | 21:10 |
| stephg | if n9 info of the same is useful let me know | 21:10 |
| w00t | special: locusf made one today | 21:10 |
| faenil | yup, I made a simple ks | 21:10 |
| w00t | stephg: sure, go ahead | 21:10 |
| special | link and/or .ks? | 21:10 |
| w00t | a few test results can't hurt :) | 21:11 |
| locusf | http://t.co/fEcfUHEANB | 21:11 |
| faenil | I should commit the ks to the repo.... | 21:11 |
| special | cool. I'll give that a try | 21:11 |
| locusf | special: ^ | 21:12 |
| locusf | special: that one will bite you | 21:12 |
| locusf | but it shows wayland ui :) | 21:12 |
| faenil | special, I forgot to remove -x11 from the ks though :/ | 21:12 |
| faenil | w00t, libofono-qt is not installed | 21:12 |
| stephg | someone remind me, the usbnet stuff the subnet is 192.168.1 or 192.168.2 | 21:12 |
| faenil | 2 | 21:13 |
| stephg | ta | 21:13 |
| wook | 2.15 | 21:13 |
| special | locusf: I'm okay with some biting | 21:13 |
| faenil | I didn't want to publish the ks before the performance issues were fixed, but since there's an image uploaded now, I'll push the ks | 21:14 |
| w00t | faenil: excellent | 21:14 |
| faenil | w00t, I don't have any software installed though, just fingerterm and comp gallery | 21:14 |
| * wook is going to mess with ubiboot | 21:14 | |
| w00t | faenil: gah | 21:14 |
| w00t | :P | 21:14 |
| faenil | wook, great :) I'm using that one as well, remember me to tell you what to edit to make wayland work | 21:14 |
| faenil | w00t, ehehe :P | 21:14 |
| w00t | not such a useful result, then | 21:14 |
| locusf | I've got software on mine | 21:15 |
| faenil | w00t, sorry | 21:15 |
| wook | need to repartion 64GB :S | 21:15 |
| locusf | from my repo :p | 21:15 |
| w00t | locusf: please check too :) | 21:15 |
| w00t | faenil: it's ok | 21:15 |
| locusf | w00t: not installed | 21:15 |
| faenil | \o/ | 21:15 |
| special | w00t: just kill it and see what breaks, imo. | 21:16 |
| special | everything maintained has been ported | 21:16 |
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| locusf | except messages and contacts | 21:16 |
| faenil | contacts has been proted | 21:16 |
| special | ported away from libofono-qt, I meant | 21:16 |
| w00t | special: you know i don't like to break things ;) | 21:16 |
| stephg | w00t: on locusf's there's no libofono-qt fwiw | 21:16 |
| locusf | oh | 21:16 |
| faenil | PR accepted today | 21:16 |
| locusf | cool | 21:16 |
| w00t | ok | 21:16 |
| faenil | don't know if that's final, w00t reviewed | 21:16 |
| w00t | to the bin it goes | 21:16 |
| faenil | aahahah :D | 21:17 |
| faenil | one less Qt4 lib | 21:17 |
| locusf | that broke qmlpinquery :p | 21:17 |
| faenil | yeah because it was using the old one :) | 21:18 |
| locusf | yeah | 21:18 |
| w00t | Package 'libofono-qt' was removed successfully from project 'nemo:devel:mw' | 21:19 |
| w00t | *poof* | 21:19 |
| faenil | \o/ | 21:20 |
| * stephg *claps* | 21:20 | |
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| w00t | faenil: locusf: can you check libqofono (not libqofono-qt5) too? | 21:21 |
| w00t | I guess with the port it will also be unused | 21:21 |
| faenil | not installed here, on empty system | 21:21 |
| stephg | rpm -qa | grep libofono is empty | 21:21 |
| stephg | (would help if I can speel) | 21:22 |
| faenil | stephg, qofono :) | 21:22 |
| w00t | libqofono | 21:22 |
| w00t | q in there | 21:22 |
| locusf | w00t: not installed | 21:22 |
| * w00t hits delete | 21:23 | |
| * faenil highfives w00t | 21:23 | |
| stephg | nuke it from orbit | 21:23 |
| * w00t removes all the qt4 qml plugins... | 21:25 | |
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| faenil | locusf, did you know of tar_git issues with qmlpinquery? | 21:35 |
| locusf | faenil: nope | 21:35 |
| locusf | argh | 21:36 |
| faenil | I see, there are 2 packages | 21:36 |
| locusf | pkgconfig should be ofono-qt5 | 21:37 |
| faenil | locusf, nah it's the wrong pacakge | 21:37 |
| locusf | hmm ok | 21:37 |
| faenil | w00t, qmlpinquery and fingerterm are both in mw and apps OBS...please fix :D | 21:37 |
| w00t | faenil: one cleanup at a time :) | 21:38 |
| faenil | w00t, :D | 21:38 |
| faenil | I had a heart attack when I saw qmlpinquery OBS was 4 months old XD | 21:39 |
| faenil | thought I screwed something, lol | 21:39 |
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| w00t | it was in mw for historical reasons | 21:40 |
| faenil | ah, so apps is the "newer" one? | 21:40 |
| faenil | webhooks points to mw | 21:40 |
| faenil | in both cases | 21:40 |
| w00t | we (jolla hat on) used to snapshot nemo:devel:mw, we wanted fingerterm but not the rest | 21:40 |
| faenil | w00t, and what does jolla use now :D | 21:42 |
| w00t | we build things where we want them ourselves, without snapshotting | 21:42 |
| faenil | ok | 21:42 |
| w00t | both are moved now | 21:43 |
| faenil | thank you | 21:43 |
| w00t | ruh-roh | 21:43 |
| w00t | someone needs to fix qmlpinquery :p | 21:43 |
| w00t | or wait, no | 21:44 |
| w00t | OBS was slow | 21:44 |
| faenil | :P | 21:44 |
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| locusf | succeeds now | 21:45 |
| w00t | rozhkov: do you still need xulrunner (qt4) in nemo:devel:mw? | 21:47 |
| w00t | rozhkov: same for qtmozembed | 21:47 |
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| w00t | locusf: can you pastebin zypper search qmsystem for me? | 21:49 |
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| locusf | w00t: http://pastie.org/8272249 | 21:50 |
| w00t | so qt5 installed, not qt4 | 21:50 |
| w00t | as expected | 21:50 |
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| w00t | gone | 21:51 |
| w00t | voicecall also gone | 21:52 |
| w00t | mw looking a bit tidier now.. | 21:52 |
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| faenil | :) | 21:58 |
| faenil | Processing files: qmlsettings-account-plugin-email-0.0.0-1.i386 | 22:01 |
| faenil | unknown, 0: Warning: using regular magic file `/usr/share/misc/magic' | 22:01 |
| faenil | Exit reason and status: signal 11 (core dumped) | 22:01 |
| faenil | while building qmlsettings... w00t ever seen that? ^ | 22:01 |
| w00t | make sure that 'file' is the same version in your sb2 target and mer SDK | 22:01 |
| faenil | ok | 22:02 |
| faenil | w00t, the sb2 doesn't have that package, that's why I'm building it xD | 22:05 |
| w00t | no | 22:05 |
| w00t | 'file' | 22:05 |
| w00t | as in the package file | 22:05 |
| faenil | oh :P | 22:05 |
| faenil | guess I will have to update the whole sb2 target, only updating file fails with "invalid crosslink" | 22:06 |
| sledges | greetings! | 22:07 |
| faenil | sledges, hey mate! o/ | 22:08 |
| sledges | buzzing with work you guys :) | 22:08 |
| * sledges back from holiday | 22:08 | |
| sledges | looks great, sorry w00t for trouble with qmlpinquery, didn't have n9 revived to test, but you guys did well! | 22:09 |
| w00t | sledges: no trouble | 22:09 |
| sledges | segfaults, i thought they pertail to vm ;) | 22:10 |
| sledges | so didn't prioritise that | 22:10 |
| faenil | no problem :) | 22:10 |
| sledges | caught up with backlog, really happy to be back to nemo after tomorrow's deadline at work ;) | 22:14 |
| sledges | good nite! | 22:14 |
| stephg | night sledges | 22:19 |
| * stephg also about to hit the sack | 22:19 | |
| locusf | me too | 22:20 |
| locusf | happy hackings, till tomorrow then :) | 22:22 |
| stephg | niiight | 22:24 |
| faenil | sledges, wb! night :) | 22:24 |
| faenil | mmm same while updating bash..."invalid crosslink" :/ | 22:26 |
| w00t | faenil: exit the SDK (probably reboot), reenter, and try again | 22:27 |
| faenil | ok...though other packages update correctly...I'll try once it has finished updating the rest ;) | 22:27 |
| w00t | the SDK mount script changed, which may cause some funky behavior | 22:27 |
| faenil | oh, should I update sdk? | 22:28 |
| faenil | when did it change | 22:28 |
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| w00t | the actual change was a long time ago, but it was only released recently | 22:33 |
| faenil | I see | 22:35 |
| faenil | the error is while updating the target, anyway | 22:35 |
| faenil | w00t, mmm I'm having big issues with the whole system, I guess a reboot will do :D | 22:36 |
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| wook | relax folks | 22:39 |
| wook | where andrea went? | 22:39 |
| wook | ohh rbt | 22:39 |
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| wook | faenil, you was talking something about getting some other netbook? | 23:11 |
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| faenil | yep? | 23:11 |
| wook | what abt this: | 23:11 |
| wook | http://sta.sh/01fhqsq3kbcp | 23:11 |
| wook | :D | 23:11 |
| wmarone | :o | 23:12 |
| faenil | screw you :P | 23:12 |
| wook | meh? :( | 23:12 |
| wook | lol | 23:12 |
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| faenil | w00t, https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlsettings/pull/3 | 23:22 |
| faenil | and with that, all qml nemo apps should have booster support | 23:24 |
| faenil | apart from fingerterm | 23:24 |
| faenil | gitorious changed style! :O | 23:27 |
| faenil | gry, ping | 23:29 |
| wmarone | gitorious updated to 3.0 | 23:29 |
| faenil | for future reference, I think this is why lockscreen doesn't shown on n950/n9 | 23:38 |
| faenil | Jan 01 00:03:32 localhost dbus-daemon[255]: dbus[255]: [system] Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.19" (uid=100000 | 23:38 |
| faenil | pid=344 comm="/usr/bin/lipstick -plugin evdevtouch:/dev/input/ev") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable" member="Introspect" error name="(u | 23:38 |
| faenil | nset)" requested_reply="0" destination="com.nokia.mce" (uid=0 pid=277 comm="/usr/sbin/mce ") | 23:38 |
| faenil | Jan 01 00:03:32 localhost dbus[255]: [system] Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.19" (uid=100000 pid=344 comm="/us | 23:38 |
| faenil | r/bin/lipstick -plugin evdevtouch:/dev/input/ev") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable" member="Introspect" error name="(unset)" requested_r | 23:38 |
| faenil | eply="0" destination="com.nokia.mce" (uid=0 pid=277 comm="/usr/sbin/mce ") | 23:38 |
| special | does /etc/dbus-1/system.d/mce.conf look ok? | 23:41 |
| faenil | special, wouldn't know what ok is in this case | 23:41 |
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