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| spiiroin | w00t: gry: dsme uses rtc interrupts to wake up from suspend. for this purpose it needs to keep the rtc dev opened. which means once dsme is running only dsme can set tod in rtc - which should happen whenever system time is changed (immediately if timed is involved, with some delay if not). | 05:35 |
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| spiiroin | ^ one might try to stop dsme, then use hwclock, reboot and check if the system time survives or not | 05:37 |
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| faenil | w00t, gconftool-2 is used in the ks for n950, but for setting target name, not the theme http://releases.nemomobile.org/releases/latest/images/nemo-armv7hl-n950/nemo-armv7hl-n950.ks | 09:08 |
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| dimitris91 | hello | 10:23 |
| dimitris91 | I'm trying to port nemo to zedboard and I partly succeed | 10:24 |
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| dimitris91 | the problem is that the /boot partition doesn't get mounted automatically | 10:24 |
| dimitris91 | but I can manually mount it and then the booting process continues and I can normally login to the system | 10:25 |
| dimitris91 | this is what I get as output: "http://pastie.org/8252610" | 10:25 |
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| sledgeSim | faenil, probably gconftool initialises system-wide db (under /etc) if run as root, at that time | 10:35 |
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| sledgeSim | dimitris91, /etc/fstab? | 10:37 |
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| dimitris91 | sledgeSim, http://pastie.org/8252999 | 10:38 |
| dimitris91 | I have already changed it a little | 10:38 |
| dimitris91 | check the second line | 10:39 |
| dimitris91 | but still the same prooblem | 10:39 |
| dimitris91 | problem* | 10:39 |
| sledgeSim | just hard copy the contents of boot to your / | 10:40 |
| sledgeSim | and see if it boots then | 10:40 |
| sledgeSim | (including the /boot/ folder ofc :) | 10:40 |
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| dimitris91 | no difference, just the same behaviour | 10:53 |
| sledgeSim | it means the mount is not the problem | 10:53 |
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| locusf | does lipstick-qt5 support eglfs yet? | 11:24 |
| faenil | locusf, colorful home runs as eglfs | 11:24 |
| Superpelican | what's eglfs? | 11:25 |
| locusf | faenil: ok | 11:25 |
| faenil | egl fullscreen | 11:25 |
| Superpelican | ah | 11:26 |
| Superpelican | that makes more sense | 11:26 |
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| faenil | w00t, ping | 11:26 |
| locusf | trying to run colorful home as eglfs on N9 then | 11:27 |
| faenil | locusf, if you read wayland wiki it's already set as eglfs | 11:28 |
| faenil | QT_QPA_EGLFS_DEPTH=16 WSEGL_DEBUG=5 QT_COMPOSITOR_NEGATE_INVERTED_Y=1 ./qml-compositor -platform eglfs | 11:28 |
| faenil | it's qmlcompositor, but it does the same for lipstick ;) | 11:28 |
| sledgeSim | locusf, talking about wayland on n9? | 11:29 |
| locusf | sledgeSim: yes | 11:29 |
| faenil | anyway, I'll try building a n950 image this evening I think | 11:29 |
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| locusf | oh cool | 11:29 |
| locusf | faenil: yes I noticed | 11:29 |
| sledgeSim | read the irc excerpts: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation/N9-N950/Wayland | 11:30 |
| locusf | read many times :) | 11:30 |
| locusf | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p60Jk35TqhU&feature=youtube_gdata_player | 11:31 |
| faenil | locusf, the booster type was correct on mediaplayer (remember I changed it yesterday evening?) | 11:33 |
| faenil | though if I revert the change, mediaplayer doesn't start on VM, "cannot dynamically load executable" | 11:33 |
| locusf | faenil: yes I remember | 11:33 |
| locusf | oh :/ | 11:34 |
| locusf | faenil: ah you mean incorrect? | 11:35 |
| faenil | locusf, no, your type was correct | 11:35 |
| locusf | faenil: really? | 11:35 |
| faenil | but it didn't start, so I changed it thinking it was wrong | 11:35 |
| faenil | but I didn't notice now it starts without booster | 11:36 |
| locusf | oh | 11:36 |
| faenil | (at least it starts though :) ) | 11:37 |
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| w00t | faenil: pong | 11:47 |
| faenil | w00t, quick thing, I modified booster type yesterday, but I was wrong, old type was correct, but with old type it didn't start (cannot dynamically load executable)...can you (or can I?) revert the commit? or should we leave it until solution to the other error is found? | 11:48 |
| faenil | dcd96662d8311a7f328d25c723c623704aab8d91 | 11:49 |
| faenil | https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlmusicplayer/commit/dcd96662d8311a7f328d25c723c623704aab8d91 | 11:49 |
| w00t | "Project WARNING: qdeclarative5-boostable not available; startup times will be slower" | 11:50 |
| w00t | that's why it isn't working when trying to use the booster | 11:50 |
| faenil | ah | 11:51 |
| locusf | http://pastie.org/8253199 | 11:51 |
| w00t | missing dependency perhaps | 11:52 |
| w00t | check qdeclarative5-boostable PkgConfigBR and Requires mapplauncherd-booster-qtcomponents-qt5 in packaging | 11:52 |
| faenil | ok I'll add that | 11:54 |
| faenil | w00t , Requires mapplauncherd-booster-qtcomponents-qt5 is missing in many apps | 11:56 |
| locusf | got lipstick to work on eglfs | 11:56 |
| locusf | now I just need a test qt5 program | 11:56 |
| w00t | faenil: probably good to add it | 11:56 |
| locusf | the screen flickers a lot | 11:56 |
| w00t | locusf: flickering may indicate more than one thing trying to use eglfs at once | 11:56 |
| w00t | or multiple windows from one application with eglfs | 11:57 |
| faenil | yeah, more than one thing running on eglfs, agree | 11:57 |
| faenil | w00t, https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlpinquery/pull/7 | 12:01 |
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| locusf | w00t: there shouldn't be, just lipstick | 12:04 |
| locusf | ah Xorg | 12:04 |
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| locusf | killed it and now everything works ok | 12:05 |
| locusf | my music player works just fine | 12:05 |
| locusf | gallery doesn't | 12:05 |
| faenil | locusf, ? gallery does here | 12:06 |
| locusf | faenil: on N9 it doesn't | 12:07 |
| faenil | ah ok, on n9 | 12:07 |
| locusf | http://pastie.org/8253253 | 12:07 |
| faenil | no idea | 12:08 |
| faenil | probably due to n9 unstable driver? | 12:09 |
| locusf | yeah | 12:10 |
| faenil | let's try w00t ? | 12:11 |
| w00t | faenil: moment | 12:12 |
| locusf | also fingerterm and qmlmaps don't work | 12:12 |
| locusf | /usr/bin/meego-handset-maps: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libQt5Qml.so.5: undefined symbol: _ZNK18QAbstractListModel5flagsERK11QModelIndex | 12:12 |
| locusf | /usr/bin/fingerterm: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libQt5Qml.so.5: undefined symbol: _ZNK18QAbstractListModel5flagsERK11QModelIndex | 12:12 |
| faenil | at least it's the same issue :D | 12:12 |
| w00t | faenil: you're changing the spec, but not the yaml | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | add mer:qt repo | 12:13 |
| faenil | w00t, are we still using the yaml? :/ | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | :devel | 12:13 |
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| w00t | faenil: if it's there (and for most stuff it is), use it | 12:13 |
| locusf | Stskeeps: I've got it | 12:13 |
| faenil | w00t, crap, ok | 12:13 |
| faenil | no need to tag new releases this time though :) | 12:14 |
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| w00t | locusf: as in you fixed it? | 12:18 |
| locusf | w00t: nope | 12:18 |
| w00t | locusf: ssu lr | 12:19 |
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| faenil | now comes the big question | 12:19 |
| faenil | locusf, is qmlmediaplayer using Qtcomponents at least? | 12:19 |
| w00t | yes | 12:20 |
| w00t | (to some degree) | 12:21 |
| faenil | ok good, because it's also missing qt-components-qt5 requires | 12:21 |
| faenil | so I started doubting about that | 12:21 |
| locusf | w00t: http://pastie.org/8253292 | 12:22 |
| w00t | locusf: I don't see the qt devel repo there | 12:23 |
| locusf | faenil: sorry about missing the requirements on mapplauncherd-booster | 12:23 |
| locusf | w00t: yes I know but I have zypper ar | 12:23 |
| faenil | locusf, qt-components-qt5 missing as well | 12:23 |
| faenil | locusf, but no problem :) | 12:23 |
| w00t | well, something has gone wrong, anyway as that is hinting that the qt those packages are built against does not match the qt on your device | 12:24 |
| locusf | w00t: http://pastie.org/8253298 | 12:24 |
| w00t | check rpm -q for them | 12:24 |
| sledgeSim | locusf, did you do zypper ref & dup after adding mer qt devel ? | 12:26 |
| locusf | sledgeSim: no :), I'm doing it now | 12:27 |
| * sledgeSim facepalm | 12:27 | |
| sledgeSim | :) | 12:27 |
| locusf | yup ::) | 12:27 |
| * sledgeSim wonders how exploded nemo on n9 will be now that you do dup ;) | 12:27 | |
| sledgeSim | you can do only `zypper dup --from=mer-qt-devel` | 12:28 |
| sledgeSim | bit safer | 12:28 |
| locusf | well I'm resetting it after this | 12:28 |
| locusf | keeping this installation on as long as possible for testing | 12:29 |
| sledgeSim | fair enough :) | 12:29 |
| faenil | locusf, the yaml doesn't have Qt5Widgets buildrequire | 12:29 |
| sledgeSim | just i hope nothing will break your graphics setup after you reboot, n9 hasn't been tested for a while | 12:29 |
| faenil | locusf, should I add that? | 12:29 |
| locusf | faenil: on what? | 12:29 |
| faenil | mediaplayer | 12:29 |
| locusf | faenil: doesn't it work without it? | 12:30 |
| faenil | locusf, I just saw that spec has Qt5Widget, yaml doesn't | 12:30 |
| locusf | sledgeSim: oh its a mushroom cloud | 12:30 |
| sledgeSim | :D | 12:30 |
| faenil | so it's currently built with Qt5Widgets | 12:30 |
| locusf | faenil: its legacy | 12:30 |
| locusf | faenil: I forgot to specify after | 12:30 |
| faenil | locusf, ok | 12:30 |
| locusf | now fingerterm et al work | 12:46 |
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| faenil | great :) | 12:50 |
| locusf | music player doesn't play the tunes, but thats probably to be expected | 12:51 |
| faenil | ouch :( | 12:51 |
| locusf | yup :/ | 12:51 |
| faenil | w00t, another issue which arose while you were away, apps using boosters use temporary folders in ./local/share instaed of their own folders | 12:52 |
| faenil | because the path of the offlineStorage folder is cached in the booster | 12:52 |
| sledgeSim | locusf, how is it performance wise? any other graphics glitches? | 12:52 |
| faenil | locusf, have you tested the part of mediaplayer which requires databases? | 12:54 |
| w00t | faenil: I heard about it, hopefully someone will have some time to poke it soon | 12:55 |
| faenil | w00t, so not worth adding fixed like this https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlnotes/blob/master/main.cpp#L85 ? | 12:56 |
| faenil | fixes* | 12:56 |
| w00t | faenil: if it's needed, add it for now | 12:56 |
| faenil | ok | 12:57 |
| faenil | in any case, it shouldn't hurt after the booster is fixed | 12:57 |
| locusf | faenil: yes it picks up the tracks | 12:57 |
| locusf | sledgeSim: some glitche in the middle of the screen | 12:57 |
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| faenil | locusf, I mean like artworks | 12:58 |
| locusf | faenil: ah no | 12:58 |
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| faenil | locusf, as it is now it will always use a different folder for the database | 12:58 |
| locusf | faenil: there are none in that folder | 12:58 |
| locusf | faenil: oh? | 12:58 |
| faenil | locusf, see https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlnotes/blob/master/main.cpp#L85 | 12:58 |
| locusf | faenil: I don't know about taht | 12:59 |
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| faenil | locusf, yeah well that was a fix I used when porting qmlnotes | 12:59 |
| faenil | as it wouldn't work properly if it couldn't read the db | 12:59 |
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| locusf | oh ok | 13:02 |
| freemangordon | hi, where I can find nemo kernel adaptation for n900? | 13:02 |
| sledgeSim | freemangordon, here: https://build.merproject.org/package/files?package=kernel-adaptation-n900&project=nemo%3Adevel%3Ahw%3Ati%3Aomap3%3An900 | 13:04 |
| sledgeSim | w00t, under x11/qt4 nemo vm image, ~/.gconf is empty too, gconftool-2 returns darko for theme name under nemo user | 13:05 |
| sledgeSim | don't know how to test mlite there though | 13:05 |
| sledgeSim | i.e. is there a shortcut to test mlite, or will i need to code? :D | 13:06 |
| freemangordon | sledgeSim: thanks | 13:06 |
| w00t | sledgeSim: from some quick digging last night it looks like it simply isn't being set anywhere, so.. I'll take a look at fixing the packaging to set the key and everything may work out ok, we'll see | 13:06 |
| sledgeSim | w00t, to set the key under /etc/gconf? | 13:06 |
| w00t | probably | 13:07 |
| sledgeSim | that's what i did manually, mlite still fails | 13:07 |
| sledgeSim | gconftool-2 --direct --config-source $Config_Src -s -t string /meegotouch/theme/name darko | 13:08 |
| faenil | locusf, in particular, this file creates a folder in that temporary folder | 13:08 |
| faenil | https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlmusicplayer/blob/master/mediabox-core/datadirectory.cpp | 13:08 |
| faenil | next time you start the app, it won't find the files | 13:08 |
| sledgeSim | you can delete /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults before running gconf and db will be recreated, with only theme name in it. still mlite doesn't pick it up under nemo user (gconftool-2 -g does) | 13:09 |
| faenil | sledgeSim, I set the theme name to darko and it worked | 13:09 |
| sledgeSim | faenil, via what? | 13:09 |
| faenil | sledgeSim, gconftool-2 --type string --set /meegotouch/theme/name "darko" | 13:10 |
| sledgeSim | under which user? | 13:10 |
| faenil | nemo | 13:10 |
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| * sledgeSim blinks | 13:10 | |
| sledgeSim | didnt work for me :)) | 13:10 |
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| sledgeSim | argh shiver me timbers! :D | 13:11 |
| sledgeSim | it worked now | 13:11 |
| faenil | :) | 13:11 |
| locusf | uploading to youtube | 13:13 |
| sledgeSim | ok, facepalm myself, I was setting config_src under user nemo. bad gconf tool returns roots db even under nemo `gconftool-2 --get-default-source` | 13:13 |
| faenil | the youtuber :) | 13:13 |
| sledgeSim | but probably thats what it means by 'default' source ;) | 13:13 |
| sledgeSim | w00t, all works now wrt mlite | 13:14 |
| sledgeSim | we just need to figure out what to do about fresh install and default theme name (as that has to be under $HOME) | 13:15 |
| sledgeSim | since it sitting under /etc is not being picked up by mlite | 13:15 |
| w00t | sledgeSim: just leave it to me :) | 13:15 |
| w00t | i'll take a look at it tonight | 13:15 |
| sledgeSim | thanks faenil :) | 13:15 |
| faenil | sledgeSim, np o/ | 13:15 |
| sledgeSim | good, just saying that we're on the same page | 13:15 |
| w00t | sledgeSim: or actually if you want, i'll send you the packaging and you can take a look at massaging it in? | 13:15 |
| w00t | then i can try take a look at systemsettings instead | 13:15 |
| * faenil likes, systemsettings :P | 13:16 | |
| sledgeSim | ok, let's share the effort w00t | 13:16 |
| faenil | w00t, locusf just for the records, I didn't change the temporary musicplayer path in the end, to avoid screwing things as I don't have time to test it at the moment | 13:19 |
| locusf | faenil: ok | 13:19 |
| faenil | locusf, if you have time to test it, just add view->engine()->setOfflineStoragePath(QStandardPaths::writableLocation(QStandardPaths::DataLocation)); | 13:20 |
| faenil | and that all the files end in the same folder | 13:20 |
| faenil | after restarting the app | 13:20 |
| faenil | (and all features work) | 13:20 |
| locusf | alright | 13:20 |
| faenil | time to study, see you in the evening people | 13:21 |
| faenil | if you need me just ping me and I'll reply sooner or later :) | 13:21 |
| faenil | Hurrian, qwazix whenever you can, we need sizes and behaviours for components ;) (like: when button is pressed text is white bold, bla bla) | 13:22 |
| Hurrian | o hai faenil | 13:22 |
| faenil | Hurrian, o/ | 13:23 |
| Hurrian | faenil: text color shouldn't change in an active state - it's there just for a while | 13:23 |
| faenil | Hurrian, it was just an example | 13:23 |
| Hurrian | mmm. | 13:23 |
| faenil | we have to write those things down | 13:23 |
| faenil | we can't keep running after one another | 13:23 |
| Hurrian | lemme think of all the ways someone can interact with components. | 13:25 |
| Hurrian | faenil: saw the Maps UI? | 13:25 |
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| faenil | Hurrian, replied on twitter, remember? :) | 13:31 |
| Hurrian | ah, right | 13:31 |
| Hurrian | whoops, inconsistency alert, no button backgrounds for call/nav :/ | 13:33 |
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| Hurrian | faenil: I'll practice with a few more mockups of core apps, then I'll see what common controls I end up using | 13:44 |
| Hurrian | I'm assuming people won't like a real rotary dialer app? | 13:47 |
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| locusf | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js9BePSwPKs | 14:03 |
| w00t | locusf: not a bad start.. | 14:04 |
| locusf | sorry for the shaky camera (Galaxy Note) | 14:04 |
| locusf | w00t: thanks | 14:09 |
| locusf | I don't know why the screen is landscape only | 14:09 |
| w00t | next step, reproducible images? ;p | 14:09 |
| w00t | the N9 (and N950) are default-landscape devices | 14:09 |
| locusf | ah ok | 14:10 |
| w00t | there's a gconf key that you can set that will probably help somewhat | 14:10 |
| locusf | don't know about reproducibility :) | 14:10 |
| locusf | I don't dare to reboot that | 14:10 |
| w00t | haha | 14:10 |
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| sledgeSim | locusf, sensational for marketting! :) | 14:19 |
| sledgeSim | and i just coloured almost everything green (lots of love from Nomovok today): https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Qt5PortingCoreApps | 14:20 |
| locusf | sledgeSim: heheh :) | 14:21 |
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| locusf | btw cutefox-qt5 doesn't work | 14:22 |
| sledgeSim | and on vm? | 14:23 |
| locusf | not there either, the plain cutefox (from nemomobile-packages) works | 14:24 |
| veskuh | locusf, sometimes cleaning .mozilla from ~/ has helped if launching fails | 14:25 |
| * faenil *speaking from the other side of the moon*: cutefox-qt5 works on VM | 14:25 | |
| faenil | it's just that if you hit CTRL+C the window is closed, but the app is not, you have to "kill" it to be able to restart it | 14:25 |
| locusf | veskuh: even in the event of a segfault? | 14:26 |
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| veskuh | locusf, yeah. | 14:27 |
| locusf | veskuh: ok | 14:27 |
| veskuh | locusf, I've also seen the same what faenil is saying | 14:27 |
| veskuh | locusf, also sometimes having wrong version of qtmozembed-qt5 or xulrunner-qt5 may lead to crash | 14:28 |
| locusf | veskuh: ah ok | 14:29 |
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| Stskeeps | faenil: ping | 15:43 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, pong | 15:44 |
| Stskeeps | faenil: did you talk to the qt on tizen guys? | 15:44 |
| Stskeeps | with regards to components | 15:44 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, nope, I talked to jpnurmi about styling qtquickcontrols | 15:44 |
| Stskeeps | faenil: ah, they'd be interested for sure - lemme just /msg some mails | 15:45 |
| Superpelican | (jpnurmi @ #qt-quick) | 15:45 |
| * Superpelican plays Mer bot | 15:45 | |
| faenil | Stskeeps, ok, didn't think they would since they're mostly done :) | 15:46 |
| Stskeeps | faenil: spoke to jstaniek today; fairly sure they're happy to work together | 15:46 |
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| faenil | Stskeeps, to share new components? | 15:47 |
| Morpog_N9__ | interesting | 15:49 |
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| Superpelican | Morpog_N9:what!? ;) | 15:59 |
| Superpelican | another nick | 15:59 |
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| Superpelican | Morpog_Mobile:Are you trolling me ;)? | 16:26 |
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| Morpog_Mobile | Superpelican, no I just setup my tablet again | 16:39 |
| Morpog_Mobile | My sister occupies mc, as she cuts her holiday movie | 16:39 |
| Superpelican | ... | 16:39 |
| Superpelican | what's mc? | 16:40 |
| Superpelican | my computer? | 16:40 |
| Morpog_Mobile | my pc | 16:40 |
| sledgeSim | mac | 16:40 |
| Superpelican | ah | 16:40 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Damn android vkb | 16:40 |
| Superpelican | huh | 16:40 |
| Superpelican | I thought you used Windows? | 16:40 |
| Morpog_Mobile | On nexus 7? | 16:40 |
| Superpelican | eh no | 16:41 |
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| Superpelican | on your pc | 16:41 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Lookup the word occupy plz ;) | 16:41 |
| Superpelican | do you really run Android on the N7? | 16:41 |
| Superpelican | or Ubuntu ? | 16:41 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Yeah :( | 16:41 |
| Superpelican | well | 16:41 |
| Superpelican | at least it's high end | 16:42 |
| Morpog_Mobile | I will put nemomobile on it sooner or later | 16:42 |
| Superpelican | :) | 16:42 |
| Superpelican | Have to leave now though :( | 16:42 |
| Superpelican | dinner | 16:42 |
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| qwazix | o/ | 17:19 |
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| marxistvegan | hey all I am back with successes and failures | 17:41 |
| marxistvegan | the success is that i got ubiboot working | 17:41 |
| marxistvegan | the failure is harmattan stopped so I decided to try to flash all from the start but I keep getting downgrade not allowed using the ROW 16GB black version of the firmware | 17:42 |
| marxistvegan | anyone know how i can fully identifiy which device i have (was bought in the US but clearly was not from there as the power cord was European and instructions in english and arabic) | 17:43 |
| marxistvegan | This is the nokia n9 for the record | 17:43 |
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| qwazix | marxistvegan, I have no idea how, if you cannot boot into harmattan, but if you still can, you can find the variant when looking at the firmware version number | 17:46 |
| qwazix | last three digits are the variant (PR001 is northern europe) | 17:47 |
| marxistvegan | hmmm i will see what i can do about the variant | 17:47 |
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| marxistvegan | qwazix: i wish they would print that info some where in the box | 17:53 |
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| qwazix | marxistvegan, it wouldn't do very much good, as it's something one can change (well in some cases) | 17:54 |
| qwazix | If you can't find it, I suggest to start trying to flash increasingly bigger numbers until you make it | 17:55 |
| marxistvegan | i am on 001 now that is not working i am downloading the turkish one which I think is 002 or 003 | 17:55 |
| qwazix | no, don't do that | 17:56 |
| qwazix | if you are on 001 you should stay on that | 17:56 |
| marxistvegan | well but that is the one that does not work when I try to reflash the device back to stock | 17:56 |
| marxistvegan | it keeps saying it cannot downgrade | 17:57 |
| qwazix | If you go 002 you'll never be able to go back to 001 unless Nokia releases pr1.4 (unlikely) | 17:57 |
| marxistvegan | oh really | 17:57 |
| qwazix | are you sure you have the right firmware file? | 17:57 |
| marxistvegan | any idea how I force 001 to work | 17:57 |
| marxistvegan | that is what i am not sure about | 17:57 |
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| marxistvegan | I am also not sure how to confirm the firmware I should have | 17:57 |
| qwazix | It shouldn't complain when trying to flash the same number | 17:57 |
| marxistvegan | I downloaded http://skeiron.org/firmware/N9/40.2012.21.3/ | 17:58 |
| marxistvegan | the first one | 17:58 |
| marxistvegan | 059H2C5_RM-696 NDT 16GB ROW BLACK.tar.gz | 17:58 |
| marxistvegan | i am going off of what I saw originally on the device when I got it, the maps were preloaded with England and the middle east countries which gives me the hint that it is a middle east phone | 17:59 |
| marxistvegan | qwazix: I am open to suggestions | 17:59 |
| qwazix | marxistvegan, just a minute | 18:00 |
| marxistvegan | ok | 18:00 |
| qwazix | marxistvegan, take out your sim-tray | 18:01 |
| qwazix | there's a sticker on it | 18:02 |
| marxistvegan | ok | 18:02 |
| qwazix | what's the number left of "16GB" | 18:02 |
| qwazix | ? | 18:02 |
| marxistvegan | 053J217 | 18:02 |
| qwazix | weird | 18:03 |
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| qwazix | that should be the firmware variant, but I can't find it anywhere | 18:03 |
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| qwazix | are you sure it's not 059j217? | 18:05 |
| marxistvegan | oh i am sorry | 18:05 |
| marxistvegan | typo on my part | 18:05 |
| marxistvegan | you are correct 059J217 | 18:05 |
| qwazix | If it is, then you should download MEA1_MEA2_BLACK | 18:05 |
| qwazix | *If it is, then you should download MEA1_MEA2_BLACK_16GB.tar.gz | 18:06 |
| marxistvegan | ok i am downloading that now | 18:06 |
| marxistvegan | which variant is MEA? | 18:06 |
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| qwazix | (you can see your code left of the filename) | 18:06 |
| qwazix | I don't know, you'll know once you untar the package | 18:07 |
| marxistvegan | ooh yeah how about that | 18:07 |
| marxistvegan | ha this is true | 18:07 |
| marxistvegan | well it will be nice to have a functioning phone again | 18:07 |
| qwazix | :) | 18:07 |
| marxistvegan | qwazix: thank you for the help | 18:08 |
| qwazix | you're welcome | 18:08 |
| marxistvegan | this should solve the problems I have run into | 18:08 |
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| marxistvegan | qwazix: oddly that version is taking well over an hour to download but that is fine I am off to lunch | 18:21 |
| qwazix | bon appetit! | 18:21 |
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| locusf | w00t: re accounts http://pastie.org/8254218 | 18:28 |
| w00t | you need a working dbus user session | 18:33 |
| locusf | hmm | 18:34 |
| locusf | dbus requires x atm | 18:34 |
| locusf | and its dead now | 18:34 |
| special | locusf: don't run as root | 18:38 |
| w00t | no | 18:38 |
| w00t | dbus doesn't require X | 18:38 |
| w00t | you can automatically find a dbus session if X is running, but that isn't a requirement | 18:38 |
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| locusf | ok | 18:46 |
| locusf | faenil: sorry, can't help with the image today | 18:47 |
| faenil | locusf, what image? | 18:48 |
| faenil | w00t, ag-tool returns "No providers available" (don't know if this helps, just thought you needed the output :) ) | 18:51 |
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| w00t | faenil: you'd need to install the right stuff for it | 18:52 |
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| faenil | yeah I have nothing for sure | 18:52 |
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| w00t | but my meaning was that you'd be able to get stuff without having an accounts ui as such | 18:52 |
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| faenil | I was not following the discussion with locusf, just hoped the output would have been useful ;) | 18:53 |
| locusf | faenil: n950 wayland image | 18:55 |
| faenil | locusf, no problem ;) I'll study some more and then get to it | 18:55 |
| locusf | ok, have fun :) | 18:55 |
| faenil | I hope I will :) | 18:56 |
| faenil | be back later guys | 18:57 |
| faenil | https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/statuses/369710574487097344 | 18:59 |
| faenil | ^ a nice way to say Qwerty other half isn't coming in the first phone | 18:59 |
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| zetaz | faenil: the good point of the other half is that they can release after the phone, we don't need to wait for the second phone to benefit from it. I just hope they will release it not long after... | 19:45 |
| * w00t hums along and hacks on systemsettings | 19:49 | |
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| drachensun | stskeeps: I got the mer logo working under a window in the compositor | 19:57 |
| Stskeeps | drachensun: \o/ | 19:57 |
| Stskeeps | drachensun: what was the problem? | 19:57 |
| drachensun | I think it was just a package config issue | 19:57 |
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| drachensun | I removed qt5-qtwayland-wayland_egl | 19:58 |
| drachensun | and the no_egl version | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | no-egl is probably the reason why stuff broke | 19:58 |
| drachensun | originally to try the one in merqt | 19:58 |
| drachensun | yeah | 19:58 |
| drachensun | when that didn't have wayland | 19:58 |
| drachensun | I put just qt5-qtwayland-wayland_egl back from my original repo | 19:58 |
| drachensun | and viola | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | congratulations :) | 19:59 |
| drachensun | thanks, you deserve most of the credit :) | 19:59 |
| drachensun | so how do I fire this up and use it? | 20:00 |
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| drachensun | I used the A10 mer image, it start up Xorg then start lipstick, not sure what I need here | 20:06 |
| drachensun | is it wayland-brcm? | 20:11 |
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| Stskeeps | drachensun: i think you should first work on reproducability, like what headers was used, what configure settings, packages installed, etc | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | and then it gets easier making an image | 20:17 |
| drachensun | ok, but my goal is to have something usable, seems like I'm pretty close to being able to fire up and actual usable desktop right? | 20:19 |
| drachensun | figure I should finish getting to that before I stop and document | 20:19 |
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| Stskeeps | nah, document now -- qml compositor was actually a full environment | 20:24 |
| Stskeeps | rest is image integration | 20:25 |
| Stskeeps | bbl sleep | 20:25 |
| drachensun | ok | 20:25 |
| drachensun | I just watched vgrade rpi video, I think I see what you mean | 20:26 |
| drachensun | thanks for the help | 20:26 |
| faenil | phew, I'm back | 20:31 |
| faenil | zetaz, false, it depends if the "hw-extension" other halves will require a different/improved connection | 20:32 |
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| faenil | which is what I fear :( | 20:36 |
| faenil | but I guess qwerty kb can also work with nfc or whatever, doesn't require good connection :) | 20:37 |
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| zetaz | faenil: you're right, but if the connection first-other half is something that change at each device, then it is already dead... I hope they have design a good interface here, even if they can't release the other halves yet as the device is already a lot of work. | 20:39 |
| zetaz | faenil : HeliumReborn just started to work ! | 20:39 |
| faenil | zetaz, the problem is designing a proprietary interface requires a lot of time | 20:39 |
| faenil | so either they don't require such a special interface | 20:39 |
| faenil | or they will have to wait after first model to work on that | 20:39 |
| zetaz | it doesn't load the page yet, and throws a lot of errors, but it is starting to run ! | 20:40 |
| faenil | (my 2 cents) | 20:40 |
| faenil | zetaz, ok :) | 20:40 |
| M4rtinK | one way or the other, our 3D printer is standing by :D | 20:40 |
| zetaz | why designing a proprietary interface... USB and HDMI are standards, something for power and you're done, the only proprietary part would then be the connector between the two halves | 20:41 |
| zetaz | then the qwerty other half only has to provide a USB keyboard profile, and it becomes plug and play, no more soft two write... | 20:42 |
| M4rtinK | yep, I would expect a USB or SPI over a couple of pins designed fir robust interconnection to the OH | 20:42 |
| zetaz | my 2 cents ;) | 20:42 |
| M4rtinK | +points for configurable pins :) | 20:43 |
| zetaz | M4rtinK: yes, triggering a xenon flash and synchronizing it with the photo is probably not something one would do through USB. | 20:44 |
| M4rtinK | if you can switch from USB/SPI to GPIO, would be nice for less sophisticated OHs (custom LEDs of flashlights) | 20:44 |
| faenil | zetaz, is there a mobile soc with double usb connector? ;) | 20:44 |
| M4rtinK | such "simple" OHs could be identified using a NFC tag | 20:44 |
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| zetaz | But as everytime I think of something in software, Jolla does 10 times better, I don't fear ;) | 20:45 |
| faenil | \o/ | 20:45 |
| faenil | :D | 20:45 |
| special | zetaz: well now I'm feeling pressured | 20:45 |
| M4rtinK | so the device can automatically switch to the correct connector (and system) profile | 20:45 |
| zetaz | faenil: the poor STM32 I have on my table has 2 USB, so I think the dual cores with HDMI and the like can have 2 also | 20:46 |
| faenil | zetaz, ok ;) I'm just guessing it might not be easily available since it's not widespread | 20:47 |
| zetaz | the other way is like on the rasberry pi where they are muxes trough an external component (If I remember correctly) | 20:47 |
| M4rtinK | well, the PRi model B has 2 USB ports + the Ethernet interface is hooked-up using an internal USB port (!) | 20:47 |
| zetaz | special : you work for Jolla ? | 20:47 |
| faenil | honestly, what I care about is the Xenon flash ( w00t special Stskeeps who else? :D ) | 20:47 |
| faenil | zetaz, indeed he does :D | 20:48 |
| M4rtinK | thp ? :) | 20:48 |
| faenil | thp, right :) | 20:48 |
| M4rtinK | and Sfiet_Konstantin IIRC | 20:48 |
| M4rtinK | hi, BTW :) | 20:48 |
| faenil | no he's an intern, not employee :) | 20:48 |
| faenil | hi o/ | 20:48 |
| w00t | zetaz: a lot of us here do (but this channel isn't strictly jolla related, just another one circling the universe :p) | 20:48 |
| zetaz | sorry, I still haven't been introduce to everyone in the familly :D | 20:48 |
| zetaz | These channels are so open, that at the end, I know the names, but not who works for who ! | 20:49 |
| faenil | ok I'd better get to the n9/n950 wayland image before I run out of time! :) | 20:49 |
| w00t | as it should be ;) | 20:49 |
| w00t | faenil: yes! :) | 20:49 |
| w00t | then I can put my n950 to use again | 20:49 |
| faenil | w00t, one day we will also have patterns :D | 20:50 |
| zetaz | anyway, thanks for what you are all doing ! I don't want to put the pressure on you in Jolla, so far you're doing much than my expectations ;) | 20:50 |
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| M4rtinK | faenil: looking forward to more real hardware for testing Qt5 apps (and thp's PyOtherSide in my case) :) | 20:51 |
| faenil | :) | 20:52 |
| * w00t looks forward to just burning most of the broken qt4 packages from OBS | 20:52 | |
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| faenil | :D | 20:54 |
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| w00t | we haven't really had the time/effort available to keep them building | 20:56 |
| w00t | (said with jolla hat on) | 20:56 |
| zetaz | Talking of hardware, x86 is supported, but not x86_64. x86 is at least needed for the virtual machines (and it also works natively on my tablet PC), but as the main target of Mer/Nemo is mobiles devices, is there interest to add x86_64 architecture in the future (as it is probably more work than just changing a compil flag) ? | 20:57 |
| Aard | w00t: I still occasionally get the doublewebhooked qt4-package getting updated on jolla obs. it always feels so good to delete it :) | 20:58 |
| w00t | Aard: ;) | 21:00 |
| faenil | w00t, advice against qt5-qtwayland-wayland_egl ? needed or not? it's needed on vm, but I don't know if it's one of the packages replaces by the ti wsegl | 21:02 |
| w00t | it's needed | 21:03 |
| Aard | faenil: check the config package I did, iirc I added some dependencies there | 21:04 |
| faenil | Aard, this you mean? https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-configs-n950-n9 | 21:04 |
| faenil | w00t, ok | 21:04 |
| Aard | yes | 21:05 |
| Aard | and the old config package needs to merged in there (iirc there are several packages we can merge in there) | 21:05 |
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| faenil | Aard, I don't know how those prj xml works and what they are for | 21:06 |
| Aard | didn't I explaine the magic some time ago? :p | 21:06 |
| faenil | Aard,just explained how they're hooked to obs, but not what they're for :) | 21:07 |
| special | faenil: once there are working wayland images, I'm going to try to look at getting one going for nexus7 as well | 21:07 |
| Aard | faenil: the prjconf, or the patterns? | 21:08 |
| faenil | special, great :) | 21:08 |
| faenil | Aard, the prjconf | 21:08 |
| faenil | the patterns in that package are the X11 ones, so not useful | 21:08 |
| Aard | faenil: they're used to autogenerate the prjconf ('osc meta prjconf <projectname>') in obs projects | 21:08 |
| faenil | still includes pulseaudio-x11 and x11 stuff | 21:08 |
| faenil | Aard, ok, I should look up the obj prjconf then :P | 21:11 |
| faenil | obs* | 21:11 |
| faenil | what is the replacement for pulseaudio-module-x11? (and all the n900 modules?) | 21:14 |
| faenil | if there is any :/ | 21:17 |
| special | x11 can just be removed, I imagine | 21:17 |
| special | which n900 modules? | 21:18 |
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| faenil | special, https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-patterns/blob/patterns-n950/nokia-n950-support.yaml | 21:18 |
| faenil | gst nokiasrc could be x11 dependent too? | 21:18 |
| special | shouldn't be | 21:18 |
| faenil | ok | 21:19 |
| faenil | you can find all the pulseaudio modules and x11 stuff in that link | 21:19 |
| special | do any of the others depend on x11? | 21:19 |
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| special | the n900 ones are probably still wanted. | 21:20 |
| faenil | I don't know, too lazy to go get the n950 before creating the image xD | 21:20 |
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| faenil | guess I have to get the n950 :P | 21:23 |
| special | :p | 21:23 |
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| faenil | can't wait for it to update though | 21:26 |
| faenil | I hope few months old packages won't change the results :) it's hw adapt after all | 21:26 |
| w00t | probably not | 21:28 |
| w00t | the hardware adaptation is kind of stagnant | 21:28 |
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| faenil | Aard, there's no webhook for nemo-configs-n950-n9 ? | 21:35 |
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| Aard | faenil: yes, intentional. it's not useful for nemo without additional work, and even might break stuff without merging the other bits in -> I didn't hook it up on nemo side yet | 21:36 |
| faenil | Aard, ok, I guess I need a local repo for that one then | 21:37 |
| Aard | faenil: btw, most of the n9xx related packages are not yet gitpackaged | 21:39 |
| faenil | Aard, all these hacks not needed anymore? https://build.merproject.org/package/files?package=nokia-n950-configs&project=nemo%3Adevel%3Ahw%3Ati%3Aomap3%3An950-n9 | 21:39 |
| faenil | like what | 21:39 |
| w00t | meegotouch-n950 can probably go | 21:39 |
| w00t | but on the whole it's probably safer to leave stuff and just change what you need, in case someone wants to hack it to do x/whatever | 21:40 |
| Aard | drop it while you move everything to git packaging :p | 21:41 |
| faenil | while *I* move everything to git packaging? :D | 21:41 |
| faenil | w00t, ok ;) | 21:41 |
| Aard | it's a valuable experience. you'll be able to tell your grandchildren about it :p | 21:41 |
| faenil | Aard, yes but it will take a while, hacking time is finished, I will be hacking only in evenings, when possible :) | 21:42 |
| faenil | Aard, anyway which packages are you referring to? transfer your n950 knowledge to me :P | 21:42 |
| Aard | well, everything in n9xx-common and n950 repos | 21:43 |
| faenil | Aard, well, those are already packages | 21:43 |
| faenil | packaged* | 21:43 |
| Aard | not in git | 21:43 |
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| faenil | ohhh come on, that really is extra work which can be avoided :D | 21:43 |
| Aard | unless someone sneakily packaged it while I was not looking :p | 21:44 |
| Aard | it makes working with them a lot easier | 21:44 |
| Aard | I'll buy you icecream if you do it :p | 21:45 |
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| faenil | Aard, icecream :Q___ | 21:46 |
| faenil | Aard, why do you want to do that? it's not like we're going to update those packages... | 21:49 |
| Aard | some of them we might at some point, some of them might not be needed, or should be moved somewhere else | 21:50 |
| Aard | some might be useful in a different adaptation as well, with webhooks we could just configure them to build in multiple projects | 21:50 |
| faenil | ok, you'll be my packaging tutor then :P | 21:50 |
| Aard | at some point we should have no packages in nemo not coming from git packaging | 21:51 |
| faenil | for tonight I'll just try the first image w00t's way, change only what's needed to make it work | 21:52 |
| Aard | you want to bring up a n9 wayland image tonight? | 21:52 |
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| faenil | Aard, well, if it works at first attempt, lol | 21:54 |
| faenil | it's late already, I'll just try to build the first image and see if I get it to boot | 21:54 |
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| faenil | Aard, if you know it can't be done because there's something missing say it now :P | 21:55 |
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| Aard | faenil: everything should be in the conf, main thing is that you should make sure that the framebuffer gets kicked into 32bpp mode (which iirc the config package should take care off) | 21:55 |
| faenil | yes there should be fbset service to do that | 21:58 |
| faenil | anyway packages downloading takes ages, I'll try it tomorrow evening, or after lunch if I have some time | 21:59 |
| faenil | good night people | 21:59 |
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| marxistvegan | hey all just wanted to touch base thanks to qwazix help earlier I flashed the n9 and now have ubiboot running with nitdroid, harmattan and nemo...only test harmattan so far | 22:32 |
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| detrout | you can do that? | 23:33 |
| detrout | tri boot an N9? | 23:33 |
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