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| faenil | o/ | 08:43 |
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| faenil | Morpog_PC, qwazix Hurrian anyone around? | 08:45 |
| Morpog_PC | yep | 08:45 |
| Morpog_PC | fell asleep on couch yesterday :D | 08:46 |
| faenil | :) | 08:46 |
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| Morpog_PC | so whats up? | 08:48 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, so, button? :D | 08:48 |
| faenil | I have about 30mins | 08:49 |
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| Morpog_PC | ok, what do you need? | 08:49 |
| faenil | graphics, behaviours :) | 08:50 |
| Morpog_PC | link to fork? | 08:50 |
| Morpog_PC | or is it the same? | 08:51 |
| faenil | well, I just commented out the custom styles atm | 08:51 |
| Morpog_PC | oh I see you got your Tshirt :) | 08:51 |
| faenil | https://github.com/faenil/qtquickcontrols-examples <---- Touch Gallery demo | 08:51 |
| Morpog_PC | so button, is the one on your twitter screen? | 08:52 |
| faenil | yea I did :) | 08:52 |
| faenil | yes | 08:52 |
| faenil | tabs and buttons there | 08:52 |
| Morpog_PC | ok, I forked and cloned it | 08:54 |
| faenil | not sure it's needed, unless you want to style them :) | 08:56 |
| Morpog_PC | was easier then downloading each image by its own | 08:57 |
| faenil | right :) | 08:57 |
| Morpog_PC | doesn't look like we got a button at all yet? | 08:58 |
| Morpog_PC | in glacier ui | 08:58 |
| faenil | I was observing the same :O | 08:58 |
| faenil | you can see one here http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=344 | 09:01 |
| Morpog_PC | I am creating one :) | 09:01 |
| Morpog_PC | where? | 09:01 |
| Hurrian | ohai Morpog_PC | 09:01 |
| Morpog_PC | hello | 09:01 |
| faenil | o/ Hurrian | 09:01 |
| Hurrian | so, on-screen buttons? | 09:02 |
| Morpog_PC | yes | 09:02 |
| faenil | we can start from sliders if you need more time :) | 09:02 |
| Hurrian | ideally, they'd be edge-to-edge like the time select dialog | 09:02 |
| faenil | Hurrian, so if you put a button in a view, it goes edge to edge? | 09:03 |
| Hurrian | yep. | 09:03 |
| faenil | :/ | 09:03 |
| Hurrian | unless you really need to put text beside it | 09:03 |
| Morpog_PC | Hurrian, thats how they look like atm: https://twitter.com/faenil/status/368861524271439872/photo/1 | 09:03 |
| faenil | Hurrian, forget toolbar, what if you have a button in the middle of a view | 09:03 |
| faenil | do you think it's okay to force it to be edge to edge? | 09:04 |
| Hurrian | so, there's just a button and nothing else? | 09:04 |
| Morpog_PC | look at the image | 09:04 |
| Hurrian | hmm | 09:05 |
| Hurrian | how about lifting the style from the edge-to-edge buttons, but only have them occupy 60% of the screen, centered? | 09:05 |
| faenil | sounds better | 09:05 |
| faenil | lifting as in using the same style? | 09:06 |
| Morpog_PC | well faenil, as I see they don't need any graphics at all, they are plain flat blue or grey styled | 09:06 |
| Morpog_PC | i can tell you the exact colors | 09:07 |
| Hurrian | faenil: yep. use grey unless it's the final control that closes out the dialog. | 09:07 |
| faenil | Hurrian, ? | 09:07 |
| faenil | we're not in dialogs yet, you're going too fast :) | 09:07 |
| faenil | we don't even have dialogs in QtQuickControls :P | 09:07 |
| Hurrian | faenil: :P | 09:07 |
| Morpog_PC | hurrian, that blue should laso be used as color while it's pressed, or? | 09:08 |
| Hurrian | if it's a control that tweaks a knob, just make it grey | 09:08 |
| Hurrian | the grey buttons, make them lighter grey-silver when pressed | 09:08 |
| Morpog_PC | ah ok | 09:08 |
| Hurrian | blue buttons should mean "okay, confirm, take me away, mission done" | 09:08 |
| faenil | I need colours and behaviours, don't turn me into a graphics artist :D | 09:09 |
| Morpog_PC | btw hurrian, your background is not total black, doesn't only true black save energy on AMOLED displays? | 09:09 |
| Morpog_PC | faenil #474747 for button color | 09:10 |
| Hurrian | Morpog_PC: haven't updated the mockup on Grog yet, but it is black now. | 09:10 |
| Hurrian | although: | 09:10 |
| Morpog_PC | ah ok | 09:10 |
| Hurrian | but I'm kinda on the fence about it, though. | 09:11 |
| Hurrian | dark grey looks really good, but white text on stark black looks good too. | 09:11 |
| Hurrian | so for now, let's stick with AMOLED off black. | 09:11 |
| faenil | I vote for the dark grey on grog :D | 09:12 |
| faenil | ok so plain black | 09:12 |
| Morpog_PC | faenil, i chosse #606060 as pressed grey color | 09:13 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, 474747 for unpressed? | 09:13 |
| faenil | not pressed* | 09:13 |
| Morpog_PC | sure | 09:13 |
| faenil | what about text | 09:14 |
| Morpog_PC | height is in hurrians mockup 50px | 09:15 |
| faenil | ok | 09:15 |
| Morpog_PC | text is #ffffff | 09:16 |
| faenil | in all cases? | 09:16 |
| Hurrian | BTW: metrics in the Glacier mockup are all pretty correct, although we're supposed to use Source Sans now, the metrics don't really change that much | 09:16 |
| faenil | ok, what about text size in the button :P | 09:16 |
| Morpog_PC | button text = source sans pro semibold 13 | 09:17 |
| faenil | points I guess | 09:17 |
| Morpog_PC | yep | 09:17 |
| Morpog_PC | and semibold | 09:18 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, is source sans pro the one already used in VM? | 09:18 |
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| Hurrian | hmm, semibold looks to be the best option | 09:18 |
| Hurrian | Source Sans Bold looks pretty bad at smaller sizes :/ | 09:18 |
| Morpog_PC | faenil, , i dunno | 09:18 |
| Morpog_PC | hopefully | 09:19 |
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| faenil | is source sans pro semibold already installed by default? | 09:19 |
| faenil | or where does it come from? | 09:19 |
| faenil | is it packaged? | 09:19 |
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| Morpog_PC | well, sailfishos emu has it | 09:21 |
| Morpog_PC | but just light and extralight :( | 09:21 |
| Morpog_PC | /usr/share/fonts/source-sans-pro | 09:21 |
| faenil | not installed in nemo vm | 09:22 |
| faenil | so, we don't even have the needed fonts \o/ | 09:23 |
| Morpog_PC | Well, now you know your next mission critical :) | 09:23 |
| Morpog_PC | http://sourceforge.net/projects/sourcesans.adobe/ | 09:23 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, rpm -qf fontFile | 09:24 |
| faenil | tell me which package it is | 09:24 |
| Morpog_PC | it doesn't have all weights in it | 09:24 |
| Morpog_PC | pretty useless | 09:25 |
| faenil | but maybe they have more packages | 09:25 |
| faenil | tell me the name | 09:25 |
| Morpog_PC | second | 09:25 |
| Morpog_PC | source-sans-pro-font-0.0.1-10.1.2.jolla.noarch | 09:26 |
| faenil | ok they only have that one | 09:28 |
| faenil | so, should we change the font to source-sans-pro in the whole system? | 09:29 |
| faenil | (unless you want to use a different font in buttons than the rest of the system :D ) | 09:29 |
| faenil | guys ... | 09:36 |
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| faenil | Morpog_PC, Hurrian alright, I'm leaving | 09:40 |
| Morpog_PC | sorry, was afk a few minutes | 09:42 |
| Morpog_PC | faenil, as I see it's used everywhere in glacier UI. But I read on grog, that it doesn't support kyrillic | 09:43 |
| Morpog_PC | maybe qwazix has an opinion too? | 09:43 |
| Morpog_PC | hurrian, as in here http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=318 qwazix suggested open sans instead of source sans pro | 09:45 |
| Hurrian | hmm, that's an i18n problem :/ | 09:46 |
| Morpog_PC | well, not issueing us now, but maybe later | 09:47 |
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| gry | what problem? | 09:50 |
| Morpog_PC | no cyrillic letter support | 09:52 |
| Morpog_PC | and greek | 09:52 |
| Morpog_PC | so faenil, button font would be open sans semibold 12 | 09:53 |
| Morpog_PC | and yes I guess open sans should be used system wide then | 09:54 |
| qwazix | Source sans and open sans look very much alike. It shouldn't be a problem to switch between them. | 09:55 |
| Morpog_PC | yeah looks very same to me | 09:56 |
| qwazix | We can also use source sans and fall back to open sans for unsupported scripts until adobe fixes source sans | 09:56 |
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| qwazix | Or if there's a font designer here, fix source sans ourselves :P | 09:57 |
| gry | where would you add these letters? thought they're at least readable in browser | 09:59 |
| gry | is there some app interface of which is now available in these languages? | 10:00 |
| Morpog_PC | well, think of translations later | 10:00 |
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| gry | I'm just not understanding whether the problem is system-wide or app-specific | 10:00 |
| qwazix | No, but one doesn't need the system to be in his language to send sms in it. | 10:01 |
| Morpog_PC | faenil has to do a package for fonts anyway, if it's source sans pro or open sans i don't care that much, they look almost same | 10:01 |
| qwazix | Having support for different scripts for editing is far more essential than i18n | 10:01 |
| Morpog_PC | http://abload.de/img/unbenannt-1y2zf4.png | 10:03 |
| qwazix | gry, the problem is that we need a font with as much unicode support as possible, to have consistency accross words written in different scripts for any reason | 10:04 |
| Morpog_PC | top is source sans pro, bottpm is open sans, both semibold | 10:04 |
| qwazix | Be it user input or system strings | 10:04 |
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| qwazix | Browsers make it easy. If a char is not there it tries to use the same one from a fallback font. I don't know if qt does that or displays squares. If it's the latter it makes using a font with many scripts even the more important. | 10:06 |
| qwazix | Morpog, I like source sans more, but for reasons above I vote for open sans. | 10:08 |
| Morpog_PC | I would say to minimize effort for all of us, let's use open sans | 10:09 |
| gry | Lucida sans unicode comes to mind, but it might be closed; I understand the problem now at least | 10:09 |
| Morpog_PC | exchanging font later sounds horrible | 10:09 |
| qwazix | I think lucida is closed. Droid and Dejavu are similar and open, but we'd like something more humanist, like nokia pure | 10:10 |
| Morpog_PC | bbl in the evening, need to do coals for a family bbq party now :) | 10:11 |
| Morpog_PC | yeah, i like the style of nokia pure, source sans pro and open sans | 10:11 |
| qwazix | Source sans, open sans, nokia pure and segoe UI lookk very much alike | 10:11 |
| qwazix | I also like Transport very much but it only has one weight. | 10:12 |
| Superpelican | hmm the Nokia Pure font seems to be designed by the same studio that designed the Ubuntu font | 10:19 |
| * Superpelican likes the Ubuntu font a lot | 10:19 | |
| Superpelican | it's a shame it's not the "Fedora" or "openSUSE" font though ;) | 10:20 |
| Superpelican | qwazix:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Font_Family | 10:20 |
| qwazix | Ubuntu font is nice too | 10:20 |
| Superpelican | Dejavu Sans is nice too though | 10:21 |
| qwazix | But its very distinctive | 10:21 |
| Superpelican | it was my favourite font | 10:21 |
| Superpelican | (Ubuntu Font) | 10:21 |
| Superpelican | but | 10:21 |
| Superpelican | I reinstalled distro's so much | 10:21 |
| Superpelican | (non-Ubuntu distros) | 10:21 |
| Superpelican | that I didn't install the Ubuntu font each time again | 10:22 |
| Superpelican | so eventually I stopped using it | 10:22 |
| Superpelican | now I just use Dejavu Sans | 10:22 |
| Superpelican | which comes with about every distro | 10:22 |
| Superpelican | And it's growing on me | 10:22 |
| Superpelican | so +1 for using Dejavu | 10:22 |
| qwazix | Dejavu is too much like arial | 10:22 |
| Superpelican | I don't think so | 10:23 |
| qwazix | For my liking | 10:23 |
| Superpelican | hmm | 10:23 |
| Superpelican | maybe a little bit | 10:23 |
| Superpelican | but who cares | 10:23 |
| Superpelican | I mean Arial as *art* isn't that bad | 10:23 |
| Superpelican | it's just | 10:23 |
| * Superpelican whispers to qwazix: "It's a MS font" | 10:24 | |
| Superpelican | :O | 10:24 |
| qwazix | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/DejaVu_Sans_and_Arial.png | 10:24 |
| Superpelican | hmm | 10:25 |
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| Superpelican | I actually like Dejavu more | 10:25 |
| qwazix | No it's not bad. It just looks old nowadays | 10:25 |
| Superpelican | old? | 10:25 |
| Superpelican | well | 10:25 |
| Superpelican | maybe if it's black/white | 10:26 |
| qwazix | Previous generation. | 10:26 |
| Superpelican | but | 10:26 |
| Superpelican | on top of the Glacier UI | 10:26 |
| Superpelican | I think it would look quite modern | 10:26 |
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| Superpelican | qwazix:You could always use the Silica font | 10:26 |
| Superpelican | (or however it's called) | 10:26 |
| Superpelican | it's open | 10:26 |
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| qwazix | That's source sans I think | 10:27 |
| qwazix | (adobe) | 10:27 |
| Superpelican | hmm | 10:27 |
| Superpelican | never heard of source sans | 10:27 |
| qwazix | That was our first candidate but it doesn't have as many scripts as open sans and we pretty much decided to go with the latter | 10:28 |
| * Superpelican <3 Source Sans Pro | 10:29 | |
| qwazix | Me too. | 10:30 |
| Superpelican | qwazix:What about Nimbus Sans (L) | 10:30 |
| Superpelican | ? | 10:30 |
| Superpelican | qwazix:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimbus_Sans | 10:30 |
| qwazix | Not bad | 10:31 |
| qwazix | But I'd like a bit more rounded, less formal font. | 10:31 |
| qwazix | http://abload.de/img/unbenannt-1y2zf4.png | 10:31 |
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| qwazix | That's source sans vs open sans | 10:32 |
| Superpelican | hmm I really can't choose | 10:32 |
| Superpelican | they both look really, really nice | 10:32 |
| Superpelican | I like the l of source sans | 10:32 |
| Superpelican | but the open sans one | 10:32 |
| Superpelican | is very nice too | 10:32 |
| Superpelican | I like both Cs | 10:33 |
| qwazix | That's why we went with open sans as it's technically better | 10:33 |
| Superpelican | why? | 10:33 |
| qwazix | Supports Greek and Cyrillic | 10:33 |
| qwazix | It's more important for these scripts that have some letters common with latin to be in the same font as Latin that say, Mandarin or Japanese | 10:35 |
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| qwazix | So that A and Α have the same design | 10:36 |
| qwazix | See this http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=31 for more details | 10:39 |
| Superpelican | qwazix:That link gives a 404 | 10:40 |
| qwazix | http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=318 | 10:42 |
| Superpelican | http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=407 :O | 10:42 |
| qwazix | Sorry, fat fingers | 10:42 |
| Superpelican | :D | 10:42 |
| qwazix | Bye for now! Cya later. | 10:45 |
| Superpelican | ok | 10:45 |
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| zetaz | Hi. Anyone knows the command to check the network adapters states and ip addresses ? ifconfig doesn't exist in the nemo VM image apparently | 12:14 |
| Stskeeps | /sbin/ifconfig | 12:14 |
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| zetaz | stskeeps : thanks !!! I didn't though of looking here... | 12:15 |
| Stskeeps | path is a little funny | 12:16 |
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| gry | "a little" | 12:16 |
| gry | :) | 12:16 |
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| zetaz | Stskeeps: Is there reason /sbin is not in path ? I could understand it being a difference between normal user and root, but it seems root don't have it either (with "su -"). | 12:20 |
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| Stskeeps | zetaz: i think it's cos /sbin isn't in path for user, just root.. | 12:25 |
| Stskeeps | and it gets inherited through su or something like that.. | 12:25 |
| zetaz | Stskeeps: I tested on my computer (Fedora), if "su" then the path from the user is kept (no /sbin), if "su -" then I have the path of root with /sbin (as well as other environment variables like PS1).It is the same in Nemo, I didn't read it correctly... | 12:29 |
| zetaz | the main difference with the desktop if that ifconfig is in /usr/sbin/, which is in the path of all users | 12:30 |
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| iekku | i might not able to host bug triage tomorroe | 17:25 |
| iekku | tomorrow | 17:25 |
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| sledgeSim | hola! | 20:35 |
| sledgeSim | faenil, sorry im in spain lol | 20:35 |
| sledgeSim | is all good now? | 20:36 |
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| Morpog_PC | sledgeSim, we started styling qtquick controls | 21:05 |
| Morpog_PC | well, better said, faenil did setup verything and on the first element we struggled and discussed a while and now we have to package fonts first :) | 21:06 |
| faenil | sledgeSim, evening | 21:09 |
| faenil | evening people :) | 21:09 |
| Morpog_PC | ello faenil | 21:09 |
| Morpog_PC | we discussed fonts a bit more and came to the conclussion that we need open sans instead of source sans pro | 21:10 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, o/ | 21:10 |
| faenil | yeah read all the backlog while I was out today ;) | 21:10 |
| Morpog_PC | ah ok :) | 21:10 |
| Morpog_PC | you can get it here: la! | 21:10 |
| Morpog_PC | <sledgeSim> faenil, sorry im in spain lol | 21:10 |
| Morpog_PC | <sledgeSim> is all | 21:10 |
| faenil | sledgeSim, what are you doing in Spain? holidays? :D | 21:11 |
| Morpog_PC | wtf | 21:11 |
| Morpog_PC | you can get it here: opensans.com | 21:11 |
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| Morpog_PC | I guess, what else can you do in spain? :D | 21:12 |
| faenil | right, right :D | 21:12 |
| Morpog_PC | my holidays end today :( | 21:13 |
| faenil | same here :( | 21:13 |
| faenil | I should start studying tomorrow :( I'm in terrible delay already.. | 21:13 |
| Morpog_PC | :) | 21:13 |
| Morpog_PC | so your next break is in 3 minths I guess? | 21:13 |
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| Morpog_PC | or 4? | 21:14 |
| faenil | yeah well it all depends on quite a few factors | 21:14 |
| faenil | but I should have some more time after half of November for sure | 21:14 |
| faenil | maybe earlier, if I'm lucky | 21:15 |
| Morpog_PC | hmmm, maybe official qt quick controls for mobile are then ready :) | 21:16 |
| faenil | don't think so :) but they will be in better shape for sure :) | 21:16 |
| Morpog_PC | well, maybe we can still tinker a bit on weekends | 21:17 |
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| faenil | Morpog_PC, study doesn't stop on weekends :P | 21:21 |
| faenil | but yeah well, I think I'll still join the chat in the evenings :) | 21:22 |
| Morpog_PC | thats why I said "maybe" :) | 21:22 |
| Morpog_PC | It's clear that we won't see faenil in powermode for a long time now :) | 21:22 |
| faenil | :( sad | 21:22 |
| Morpog_PC | hey, you really achieved alot in the last weeks | 21:23 |
| Morpog_PC | That was some great work! | 21:23 |
| faenil | thank you :) it was a lot of fun | 21:24 |
| faenil | it would have taken much shorter time, if I already knew some stuff :) | 21:24 |
| faenil | but it was good to learn, always better to learn new stuff than keep using old one :) | 21:25 |
| Morpog_PC | yeah, even more when the old stuff is obsolete | 21:26 |
| faenil | :D | 21:26 |
| Morpog_PC | imagine what happens when you start your VM in 4 months and do a zypper ref and up :) | 21:27 |
| faenil | I hope I'll see gorgeous things :) | 21:27 |
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| faenil | anyway I'm having a quick look at fonts packaging files...and it seems every font has its special things to do when installing :/ | 21:28 |
| Morpog_PC | hmm | 21:28 |
| faenil | cjkuni: http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/cjkuni-fonts.git;a=blob;f=cjkuni-fonts.spec;h=ae387792dd220101d989cab4bf8a4e82488c0e22;hb=HEAD | 21:28 |
| faenil | droid: http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/droid-fonts.git;a=blob;f=droid-fonts.spec;h=45a51049c0715f6cee819167fe18f2a0ed928af3;hb=HEAD | 21:28 |
| faenil | liberation: http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/liberation-fonts.git;a=blob;f=liberation-fonts.spec;h=08de2b2cf9bd4dcef8e8a585ad47018e945aee2c;hb=HEAD | 21:28 |
| Morpog_PC | why can such stuff never be easy :( | 21:29 |
| Morpog_PC | like copy in folder and add to a config file, and voila | 21:30 |
| faenil | yeah :D | 21:30 |
| sledgeSim | :) | 21:33 |
| sledgeSim | remember old nemo was on droid | 21:33 |
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| sledgeSim | when i was labelling up shutdown screen | 21:34 |
| faenil | :) | 21:34 |
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| Morpog_PC | well, thats a minute fix for me :) | 21:34 |
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| sledgeSim | sorry didnt read backlog: what will we do for the dpi factor? | 21:36 |
| Morpog_PC | thats a good question | 21:36 |
| Morpog_PC | what was done before? | 21:37 |
| Morpog_PC | fixed size? | 21:37 |
| Morpog_PC | different themes for different resolutions? | 21:37 |
| Morpog_PC | scalable is hard to master | 21:37 |
| sledgeSim | there is dpi in config | 21:37 |
| Morpog_PC | was the old theme scalable? | 21:38 |
| sledgeSim | which causes old old settings app to resize its icon spacing (list margins) | 21:38 |
| sledgeSim | but all icons, even svg ones didnt scalr | 21:38 |
| Morpog_PC | well I guess we will see that once work on restyling begins. I dunno if glacier would work scalable | 21:40 |
| sledgeSim | depends on hw | 21:41 |
| Morpog_PC | I guess there should be 3 themes, one for qHD and smaller, one for 720p and one for 1080p | 21:41 |
| sledgeSim | same question for realtime blurring etc | 21:41 |
| sledgeSim | was about to suggest the same | 21:41 |
| Morpog_PC | as glacier doesn't use that many graphics it shouldn't be too complex to do | 21:43 |
| faenil | yeah | 21:43 |
| faenil | so, I guess i need some help with font packaging | 21:44 |
| Morpog_PC | don't look at me, I'm clueless | 21:45 |
| faenil | sledgeSim, do you know anything? why are those three packaging so different? | 21:45 |
| * Morpog_PC surfs to his couch | 21:46 | |
| faenil | and I surf to my bed :P see you tomorrow! | 21:46 |
| sledgeSim | will look. do you have opensans packaging skeleton? | 21:46 |
| sledgeSim | i also suef to bed lol | 21:47 |
| faenil | sledgeSim, packaing skeleton? | 21:47 |
| sledgeSim | yes, the draft | 21:47 |
| sledgeSim | or just examining existing? | 21:48 |
| faenil | sledgeSim, examining mer ones | 21:48 |
| sledgeSim | ok, will look in morning, continie your hard work, thank you fellows! | 21:49 |
| faenil | sledgeSim, it's actually more about knowing what I should Provide | 21:50 |
| faenil | for example droid provides 37 Provides: scalable-font-zh-TW | 21:51 |
| special | you don't, unless you're trying to get it pulled in by default | 21:51 |
| faenil | special, why? | 21:52 |
| special | afaik you shouldn't have two packages providing the same thing | 21:53 |
| faenil | ok, that is ok | 21:54 |
| faenil | what I meant is, how do I know what my package should "Provide" in this case? | 21:54 |
| faenil | I wouldn't have never thought droid would provide that package | 21:54 |
| special | you can think of Provides like an alias for the package | 21:55 |
| faenil | special, yes I know how Provides work in RPM packaging :) | 21:56 |
| special | you don't need any unless there's an explicit reason you do. | 21:56 |
| faenil | I've been playing with rpms quite some time lately | 21:56 |
| special | in this case, it sounds like you just need a basic package for the font and a dependency on it from whatever UI package uses it | 21:56 |
| special | unless you're looking to change default fonts platform-wide | 21:56 |
| special | in which case it touches on patterns or dependencies elsewhere | 21:57 |
| faenil | special, exactly, "unless there's an explicit reason" | 21:57 |
| faenil | special, yes I am, we want Open Sans platform wide it seems | 21:57 |
| special | why? If it's glacier's font, why not just depend on it and set it as the default when using glacier? | 21:59 |
| faenil | special, I think the rest of the system would look "weird" | 22:01 |
| faenil | droid's packaging is very simple, apart from those "scalable" provides which I didn't know had to be there | 22:04 |
| faenil | but the others use "mkfontscale".. | 22:05 |
| faenil | mkfontdir.. | 22:05 |
| faenil | also, droid has .conf files for fontconfig | 22:06 |
| faenil | liberation doesn't have them... | 22:07 |
| faenil | what is the freaking correct way to package a font? XD | 22:07 |
| faenil | special, do you know something about it? | 22:10 |
| special | nope | 22:10 |
| special | I'd guess it doesn't matter that much, if everything is doing it differently | 22:10 |
| faenil | ok..I'll try to get more info tomorrow | 22:11 |
| faenil | good night! | 22:11 |
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