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| Sage | morning | 06:10 |
| Sage | anyone have time to help me a bit and take previuos snapshot image and do ssu re -r latest; ssu fl testing; zypper ref; zypper install ssu ssu-vendor-data-nemo; zypper ref; zypper dup? | 06:11 |
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| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage SR#363 Rejected promotion request | 06:15 |
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| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage SR#364 Rejected promotion request | 06:26 |
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| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage SR#366 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/366 | 06:33 |
| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage SR#367 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/367 | 06:34 |
| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage SR#368 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/368 | 06:35 |
| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage SR#365 Rejected promotion request | 06:37 |
| Sage | sledges: found another problem with i486 image | 06:42 |
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| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage SR#367 Accepted promotion request | 06:56 |
| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage SR#366 Accepted promotion request | 06:57 |
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| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage SR#368 Accepted promotion request | 07:03 |
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| sledges | Sage, yay, do those SRs fix it? ;) | 07:15 |
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| Sage | still testing | 07:26 |
| Sage | I have so limited time to test all the devices :/ | 07:26 |
| martyone | sledges, Sage: following https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Creating_Releases#Getting_the_build_script_and_configs I created release image - no change | 07:29 |
| martyone | I was not able to create rnd image because a dependency problem: "nothing provides qmlcontacts-tools needed by pattern:nemo-rnd-.noarch", caused by https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlcontacts/commit/faa6e4935d0c7c3a49e06c15f47847878c9ec18c | 07:29 |
| Sage | martyone: hmmp | 07:30 |
| martyone | Sage: where can I find the change which is supposed to fix the original problem? I went through all nemo&mer gits I know about and I did not see any recent commit with such a change.. | 07:35 |
| Sage | martyone: well, that qmlcontacts-tools missing is yet another problem I haven't noted. Let me check it :) | 07:37 |
| phaeron | https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugin-contacts/commit/f1be024ae464e72575ff62af0ac2cfff75b80f3a | 07:38 |
| phaeron | Sage: it moved there | 07:38 |
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| Sage | martyone: ok, sent fixes to rnd devel. Can you verify that it works now with image build? Takes some time to rebuild though | 07:47 |
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| bartex | Hi guys | 07:53 |
| bartex | with the latest sdk for mer I'm facing "I have no name" issue while doing: sb2 -t my_targer | 07:53 |
| sledges | martyone, check ydays log online, search for disappear keyword ;) | 07:54 |
| bartex | any idea why the "mer" user is unseen? | 07:54 |
| sledges | bartex, also worth knocking at #mer | 07:55 |
| bartex | ok | 07:55 |
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| martyone | Sage, sledges: it works now, thanks! :) | 08:10 |
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| Sage | martyone: good | 08:13 |
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| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage SR#369 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/369 | 08:24 |
| sledges | good stuff | 08:34 |
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| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage SR#370 Rejected promotion request | 08:50 |
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| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage SR#369 Accepted promotion request | 08:53 |
| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage SR#371 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/371 | 08:57 |
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| sledges | 07:11 < Sage> anyone have time to help me a bit and take previuos snapshot image and do ssu re -r latest; ssu fl testing; zypper ref; zypper install ssu ssu-vendor-data-nemo; zypper ref; zypper dup? | 09:16 |
| sledges | which arch/dev do you prefer? | 09:16 |
| Sage | sledges: anyone of those really. You have panda there that you can try with? | 09:17 |
| sledges | "previuos snapshot image" - the latest, or one before latest available? | 09:17 |
| sledges | ok, will do panda | 09:17 |
| Sage | I'm hoping to do snapshot today if everything seems ok | 09:18 |
| sledges | ssu-vendor-data is needed? what about device specific? | 09:19 |
| sledges | as in # For N900/N950/N9 install adaptation repos zypper install nemo-ssu-repos-adaptation-common-rnd nemo-ssu-repos-adaptation-rnd | 09:19 |
| sledges | I don't think I ever tested panda with ssu | 09:19 |
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| sledges | ah, panda adaptation will be automagically pulled in ;) | 09:20 |
| sledges | so Sage , do I need to follow this: http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg01158.html | 09:20 |
| sledges | or just your one liner: ssu re -r latest; ssu fl testing; zypper ref; zypper install ssu ssu-vendor-data-nemo; zypper ref; zypper dup? | 09:20 |
| Sage | sledges: that is for meego obs -> mer obs guide no need fo rthat | 09:21 |
| sledges | ok | 09:21 |
| Sage | ssu re -r latest; ssu fl testing; zypper ref; zypper install ssu ssu-vendor-data-nemo; | 09:21 |
| * sledges pulls out mer-kickstarter | 09:21 | |
| Sage | let me know what ssu s prints after that | 09:21 |
| sledges | ok | 09:22 |
| Sage | kah, need to wait for promotions | 09:25 |
| Sage | I hope SR 371 is the last one needed to fix the rest | 09:25 |
| sledges | when have time, could you explain this mer:qt:* overhaul ? | 09:25 |
| Sage | it basically makes it faster to develop the qt stuff on top of mer before those are merged to the mer core | 09:27 |
| sledges | will it contain qt4 and qt5 side-by-side ? | 09:27 |
| sledges | strange that some mer packages depend on qt | 09:28 |
| Sage | it is part of mer core as it used to but more devel oriented before merged to mer snapshot | 09:28 |
| sledges | i thought it would be as low as nemo:mw | 09:28 |
| Sage | what would? | 09:28 |
| sledges | packages depending on qt | 09:28 |
| sledges | as mer only provides xorg and qt itself | 09:29 |
| sledges | im speaking of these: https://build.merproject.org/project/monitor?arch_armv8el=1&defaults=0&project=mer%3Aqt%3Adevel&repo_latest_armv7hl=1&succeeded=1 | 09:30 |
| sledges | such as libaccounts | 09:30 |
| sledges | (i should've taken this to #mer probable) | 09:31 |
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| Sage | probably :) | 09:31 |
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| sledges | Sage, there's no snapshot for panda 0.20130411.1.NEMO.2013-04-26.1/ | 09:59 |
| sledges | im trying to make one with builder.py, that I hand-made for martyone: https://pastee.org/22s75 | 10:00 |
| sledges | but because of this, I can't: tokenmap="MER_RELEASE:"+options.release_level+",NEMO_RELEASE:"+options.release_level | 10:00 |
| sledges | so will just madke by hand i guess | 10:00 |
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| sledges | there's no non-rnd panda repo either | 10:08 |
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| sledges | i'll just bake latest panda rnd:devel image with 0.20130411.1 mer, switch to testing and provide for you Sage <- will that suffice? | 10:09 |
| sledges | *provide output | 10:09 |
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| sledges | mic cr with 0.20130411.1 mer failed, switching all to latest | 10:15 |
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| Sage | sledges: sufficient yes | 10:18 |
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| sledges | Sage, Panda works smoothly, I'm pleasantly surprised! | 11:22 |
| sledges | https://pastee.org/k8a48 | 11:22 |
| sledges | shall I carry on? | 11:22 |
| sledges | (ref&dup) | 11:23 |
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| xavinux | hi peole, wish you a nice day.. | 11:27 |
| sledges | zypper dup on (testing) PandaBoard; pressed yes ;) https://pastee.org/d2zym | 11:27 |
| Sage | sledges: can you list ssu lr as well | 11:30 |
| sledges | Sage, https://pastee.org/bbzjr | 11:30 |
| Sage | sledges: looks good | 11:31 |
| xavinux | add link http://xavinux.blogspot.com.ar/2013/06/installing-nemo-i486-vm_18.html with comment "Here's a blog post with screenshots" to Nemo/Installing#VirtualBox | 11:31 |
| sledges | xavinux, not at the bottom please, but under "== VirtualBox ==" | 11:32 |
| sledges | looks good otherwise! | 11:32 |
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| xavinux | ok sledges I will change that.... | 11:33 |
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| xavinux | ready sledges, is it ok now? | 11:35 |
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| sledges | yes, xavinux, thank you | 11:39 |
| sledges | ok Sage , zypper dupped, rebooted, testing looks all sane on panda | 11:42 |
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| Sage | sledges: ok | 11:49 |
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| xavinux | how can I help with Bug 298? | 12:15 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 298 in x86-generic "meego-terminal is black under virtualbox, making installing hard" [Critical,New] https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=298 | 12:15 |
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| sledges | xavinux, feel free to close this bug. meego-terminal has been removed from repos, use finger term instead | 12:41 |
| xavinux | ok | 12:44 |
| xavinux | can you explain what do I have to do to close it, as newbie has never closed a bug and don't know well what to do... | 12:45 |
| sledges | set its status to RESOLVED WONTFIX and add a comment | 12:45 |
| xavinux | ok, comment "meego-terminal has been removed from repos, use finger term instead" it's ok? | 12:49 |
| sledges | you read my mind ;P | 12:49 |
| xavinux | :) I read what you wrote.... | 12:55 |
| sledges | which was in my mind ;) | 12:55 |
| xavinux | :) | 13:02 |
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| xavinux | done. | 13:05 |
| sledges | \o/ | 13:06 |
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| xavinux | what about Bug 347 can I also help witht that? | 13:26 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 347 in x86-generic "Screen is black when VKB is open in VirtualBox" [Critical,New] https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347 | 13:26 |
| sledges | is it still an ongoing problem xavinux ? | 13:27 |
| sledges | Sage, don't you need to bump this up https://github.com/mer-tools/mer-kickstarter/blob/master/VERSION so lbt can promote it? im still getting error with latest mersdk: https://pastee.org/rzspa | 13:30 |
| xavinux | well will etst it later in my VM and tell you if problem stills an ongoing... | 13:30 |
| sledges | xavinux, cheers. Note, it might or might not be i586 related | 13:30 |
| sledges | as in. i486 might work ok - im not 100% sure about that though | 13:31 |
| AndIRC_ | new bug?? | 13:31 |
| xavinux | ok but I can test it in that case whit i586 VM without installing it to HDD | 13:32 |
| sledges | yes | 13:32 |
| xavinux | ok | 13:32 |
| xavinux | so will test it with my i486 VM from HDD and the live iso i586 | 13:33 |
| xavinux | ant tell you results | 13:33 |
| sledges | great | 13:33 |
| xavinux | :) | 13:33 |
| AndIRC_ | \0/ | 13:34 |
| Sage | sledges: that is only for mer-kickstarter version string doesn't matter other things really | 13:42 |
| Sage | sledges: but should be updated yes | 13:42 |
| xavinux | I am working in a new guide, explainig how to close apps, minimize them, maximize them in Nemo, something else that to your criteria need to have in base to your expierence..... | 13:42 |
| sledges | Sage, I'm just poking on how to catalyse the promotion :) | 13:43 |
| sledges | but it looks it had been already readied for 0.19 by lbt : https://github.com/sledges/mer-kickstarter/commits/pkg-mer | 13:44 |
| lbt | http://repo.merproject.org/obs/mer-tools:/testing/latest_i486/noarch/ | 13:45 |
| lbt | rpm -U http://repo.merproject.org/obs/mer-tools:/testing/latest_i486/noarch/mer-kickstarter-0.19-2.13.2.noarch.rpm should work | 13:45 |
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| sledges | oh no, my mersdk got 5 | mer-tools | mer-tools | Yes | No | http://repo.pub.meego.com/releases/Mer-Tools/rolling/builds/i486/packages/ | 13:47 |
| sledges | D: | 13:47 |
| sledges | crikey, let's try to ssu platform sdk :) | 13:48 |
| sledges | thanks for info lbt | 13:49 |
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| ericcc | nemo sdk is very taste | 14:00 |
| sledges | yup, the only way for it to work is via rpm -U ... i believe Mer Platform SDK repo names will be sorted at earliest convenience for you guys | 14:00 |
| xavinux | is useful to secure ssh and lock root access via this rpotocol for nemo? | 14:04 |
| xavinux | and create another user for login without privileges? | 14:04 |
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| ericcc | meego-terminal is black under virtualbox, making installing hard it is ok now? | 14:08 |
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| xavinux | ericc: meego-terminal has been removed from repos, use finger term instead | 14:10 |
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| ericcc | ok | 14:19 |
| ericcc | it is bug? the i486 sdk in vbox, when you don`t use , there is a black blank screen and cant open anything app | 14:25 |
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| sledges | it's not a bug, it's a feature ;) | 14:31 |
| sledges | drag your black screen upwards with mouse, and it will unlock ;) | 14:31 |
| sledges | ericcc, ^ | 14:31 |
| ericcc | oh cool | 14:32 |
| sledges | surely, a bug is that it is black | 14:33 |
| sledges | on Nokia N9xx you get a nice wallpaper instead | 14:33 |
| ericcc | transparent is better | 14:33 |
| sledges | what about your privacy? ;) | 14:34 |
| ericcc | the sailfish is better than it | 14:34 |
| sledges | ah, it's just a play with a text overlay, creates you an impression that it's transparent | 14:34 |
| sledges | UI is easy to modify, you can Sailfishize Nemo easily | 14:35 |
| sledges | Nemo has been harmattanised 5 months ago btw | 14:35 |
| ericcc | study everyday:) | 14:35 |
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| ericcc | Maemo is base nemo? | 14:36 |
| sledges | ericcc, a history book for you: http://taskumuro.com/artikkelit/the-story-of-nokia-meego | 14:37 |
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| sledges | Nemo is still using some of the no longer maintained MeeGo codebase, but is freeing itself away from it rapidly. However MeeGo's principles are still followed throughout mer/nemo | 14:40 |
| Aard | sledges: actually, we're now maintainer for the parts of meego codebase we're still using :) | 14:40 |
| sledges | like to name a few? :) | 14:41 |
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| Aard | commhistory, buteo-* timed, usb-moded, contactsd, tone-generator, dsme, mce, policy-framework, telepathy-ring, connman-qt, ngf, ohm, ... | 14:43 |
| sledges | lol, so everything except mtf :D | 14:44 |
| Aard | not everything, but a lot | 14:44 |
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| sledges | what about tracker? :D | 14:44 |
| Aard | tracker has an active upstream, so there's no need for us to be maintainer | 14:46 |
| sledges | ah good it's active, to they'll tame it down a bit :) | 14:46 |
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| Aard | and using tracker as storage is currently going away, tracker as pure metadata indexer just can use the regular upstream versions | 14:46 |
| sledges | didn't know tracker was anything more than just indexer | 14:47 |
| Aard | on harmattan (and later meego) call history, messages, and lot's of other stuff was stored in tracker | 14:48 |
| sledges | geeez | 14:48 |
| xavinux | sledges: is useful to secure ssh and lock root access via this protocol for nemo, and create another user for login without privileges? | 14:50 |
| sledges | Aard, qmf also meego? | 14:51 |
| sledges | xavinux, I have no idea about this :) | 14:51 |
| Aard | no, not only meego | 14:51 |
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| xavinux | it is about to secure ssh access... | 14:52 |
| xavinux | change ssh port, disable root ssh access, and so on | 14:52 |
| xavinux | is this can be useful can make a howto on this topic | 14:53 |
| sledges | as a blog post for example ;) | 14:55 |
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| xavinux | :) yes if you think is useful :) | 14:59 |
| xavinux | can post on this topic, how to secure ssh access on Nemo | 15:00 |
| sledges | i would be useful for vendors who want security | 15:00 |
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| rosenrot | hey | 15:01 |
| sledges | and a good checklist for someone who might leave out things | 15:01 |
| sledges | greetings rosenrot | 15:01 |
| rosenrot | the code on https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing "wget -r -l1 -nd --no-parent -Amoslo-0.*.rpm http://repo.pub.meego.com/CE:/Adaptation:/N950-N9/CE_Adaptation_N9xx-common_armv7hl/armv7hl/" does not work... it seems Amoslo-0.*.rpm does not exist there | 15:02 |
| rosenrot | can anybody tell me where i can get it from elsewhere? | 15:02 |
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| sledges | rosenrot, "wget -r -l1 -nd --no-parent -Amoslo-0.*.rpm http://releases.nemomobile.org/snapshots/repos/hw/ti/omap3/n950-n9/latest/armv7hl/armv7hl/" | 15:04 |
| rosenrot | sledges sorry this works neither | 15:05 |
| sledges | rosenrot, just worked for me :) | 15:06 |
| rosenrot | hmmm | 15:06 |
| rosenrot | strange... seems to be a problem with zsh | 15:06 |
| rosenrot | with bash it works | 15:07 |
| sledges | ah, the '*' substitution | 15:07 |
| rosenrot | thank you very much for your help | 15:07 |
| sledges | thank you for finding yet another broken link :) | 15:08 |
| sledges | I will adjust the wiki | 15:08 |
| rosenrot | now i dont really know if that link was broken... maybe it was the same '*' issue ;) | 15:09 |
| sledges | nope, repo.pub.meego.com is dead ;) | 15:10 |
| sledges | officially.. | 15:10 |
| rosenrot | ah ok... | 15:10 |
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| xavinux | well will prepare a post on that topic | 15:13 |
| xavinux | sledges: another topic we were taking, a guide explainig how to close apps, minimize them, maximize them in Nemo, should it be useful | 15:17 |
| xavinux | ? | 15:17 |
| sledges | xavinux, yes, that one, yes :) | 15:17 |
| xavinux | better than shell security no? | 15:17 |
| rosenrot | Ok, may I ask another question? When i try to execute "rpm2cpio moslo-*.armv7hl.rpm | cpio -vidu" cpio sais "cpio: warning: skipped 3657 bytes of junk" how can i fix that? | 15:18 |
| sledges | more prioritised I'd say | 15:18 |
| sledges | rosenrot, yet again, WORKSFORME :( https://pastee.org/v8hym | 15:19 |
| sledges | check if bits match | 15:19 |
| xavinux | where can I read aobut how Nemo´s low-level, middel-level and high-level are composed? | 15:33 |
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| xavinux | *about | 15:35 |
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| rosenrot | it seems that the byteorder is reversed. | 15:38 |
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| sledges | xavinux, just substitute Sailfish UX Silica With Nemo UX QtComponents and you should have the full picture: http://www.openmobility.cz/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/IMG_8231.jpg | 15:56 |
| xavinux | thanks sledges | 15:58 |
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| sledges | thanks to zchydem for those slides ;) | 16:03 |
| xavinux | I can use the Platform SDK's for Mer python development ? | 16:04 |
| sledges | xavinux, you don't need an SDK to develop python ;) it's a script | 16:05 |
| xavinux | reason of my question is because I 'm reading Mer platform SDK https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK | 16:06 |
| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage SR#360 Accepted promotion request | 16:06 |
| xavinux | and about hardware adaptation | 16:06 |
| xavinux | think can use Python for Hardware addaptation programming..... | 16:06 |
| xavinux | *adaptation | 16:07 |
| sledges | I was hoping you was not gonna say this | 16:07 |
| sledges | 8} | 16:07 |
| sledges | Hardware Adaptation is a layer which enables Mer/Nemo to run on a hardware device | 16:08 |
| sledges | it is composed of bootloader (coded in C), linux kernel and modules (coded in C), and userspace libraries (coded in C) | 16:08 |
| sledges | not really a python world my friend :) | 16:08 |
| xavinux | yes question was poorly made | 16:10 |
| xavinux | understand now waht you explian | 16:10 |
| xavinux | Linux Kernels's code is C, cannot use Python | 16:10 |
| xavinux | was thniking about other layer and I express wrong what I was thinking....sorry :( | 16:11 |
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| sledges | np :) | 16:13 |
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| xavinux | what is the function of lipstick on th Nemo MW layer? | 16:24 |
| Stskeeps | it's a kind of middleware that allows you to do homescreens easily | 16:25 |
| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage SR#371 Accepted promotion request | 16:26 |
| xavinux | ok | 16:27 |
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| xavinux | Stskeeps thanks, I would like to make a diagram with an explanation of each part and functions of MER/NEMO to undesrtand how it works. May I use the image form here http://www.openmobility.cz/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/IMG_8231.jpg and then post it in my blog http://xavinux.blogspot.com.ar to share it with others? | 16:47 |
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| sledges | personally, don't see any problems | 16:55 |
| sledges | as long as you describe Nemo there, I believe zchydem will be happy too :) | 16:56 |
| xavinux | of course I will change Sailfish to Nemo, but do you think I must ask this question to zchydem too before posting? | 17:00 |
| rosenrot | I have a problem while flashing moslo: http://pastebin.com/32yrafgb | 17:01 |
| rosenrot | after sending the ape-algo image the divice is not being detected anymore. | 17:01 |
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| xavinux | zchyden: Hi. I would like to make a diagram with an explanation of each part and functions of MER/NEMO to undesrtand how it works. May I use the image form here http://www.openmobility.cz/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/IMG_8231.jpg and then post it in my blog http://xavinux.blogspot.com.ar to share it with others0 Of course I will change Sailfish will to Nemoi? | 17:03 |
| sledges | rosenrot, N950 ? | 17:04 |
| rosenrot | n9 | 17:04 |
| rosenrot | ok sorry | 17:05 |
| sledges | :) | 17:05 |
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| sledges | xavinux, zchydem might be sleepish, I suggest you go ahead | 17:07 |
| sledges | s/sleepish/busy/ ;) | 17:07 |
| xavinux | ok I have start working on it | 17:07 |
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| xavinux | time to go home...wil be off ofr a while... | 17:34 |
| xavinux | *for a while... | 17:34 |
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| ajalkane | Did a nemo update with "ssh-keygen -f "/home/arto/.ssh/known_hosts" -R n950 | 20:47 |
| ajalkane | " | 20:47 |
| ajalkane | Got weird permissions for home: | 20:47 |
| ajalkane | -bash-3.2$ ls -l /home | 20:48 |
| ajalkane | total 4 | 20:48 |
| ajalkane | drwx------ 20 100000 nemo 4096 2013-06-19 00:26 nemo | 20:48 |
| ajalkane | System doesn't boot, as can be expected. | 20:48 |
| ajalkane | I think this problem is old one, I remember it from last year, but have no idea what causes it | 20:48 |
| valdur55 | does voicecall | 20:55 |
| valdur55 | wok in nemomobile? | 20:56 |
| valdur55 | i am using N9 . | 20:56 |
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| ajalkane | "ssu ar mer-tools" does nothing. | 20:59 |
| ajalkane | When I do "ssu lr" it lists amongs others: | 20:59 |
| ajalkane | "Disabled repositories (user): - mer-tools ... http://repo.merproject.org/obs/mer-tools:/testing/latest_armv7hl" | 21:00 |
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| xavinux | http://xavinux.blogspot.com.ar/2013/06/close-maximize-and-minimize.html Applications Screens in Nemo | 21:22 |
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| ericcc | xavinux: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSc4RG988zU&feature=youtu.be | 21:49 |
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| xavinux | eriic: great! | 22:09 |
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| sledges | xavinux, good article. A tip for you: can minimise an app by "swiping" mouse from any of the 4 edges of the screen ;) | 22:40 |
| sledges | valdur55, yes it works; I think current version has speaker on volume so be careful when someone calls, everyone will hear them talk ;) | 22:41 |
| sledges | pity ajalkane left, if he reads the backlog, here's the explanation for his problem: http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg01231.html | 22:45 |
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| xavinux | sledges: thanks, I will add that tip to the article | 22:58 |
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| xavinux | I've forgotten that tip... | 23:05 |
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| xavinux | I've just added tip to post | 23:25 |
| sledges | perfetto | 23:27 |
| sledges | nite! | 23:27 |
| xavinux | muchas gracias sledges :) | 23:28 |
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