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| gry | <ZogG_laptop> gry: i have pr1.3 for n950 only | 01:16 |
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| gry | ZogG_laptop: could you upload that somewhere pretty please? :) | 01:16 |
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| ZogG_laptop | gry: hey buddy :) | 04:38 |
| ZogG_laptop | gry: what version do you need? | 04:38 |
| gry | ZogG_laptop: pr 1.3 for n950 I think... I'm just looking for a latest one | 05:11 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: sure, after I get nemo promoted to the testing and snapshot done | 06:54 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 06:56 |
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| faenil | o/ | 07:38 |
| sledges | heya faenil | 07:40 |
| faenil | ahoy | 07:40 |
| sledges | how's stuff? :) | 07:40 |
| faenil | cool, cool | 07:46 |
| faenil | still in Tampere, checking out the airport bus timetable though :( | 07:46 |
| sledges | ehh, can imagine: "so hard to say, so hard to leave" :) | 07:49 |
| sledges | any good hacks on nemo over the weekend? :) | 07:49 |
| sledges | s/say/stay | 07:49 |
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| faenil | sledges, not really, no, it was actually all social := | 08:00 |
| faenil | :) | 08:00 |
| sledges | good stugff:) | 08:00 |
| faenil | yeah, it was super awesome | 08:01 |
| sledges | \o\ | 08:02 |
| faenil | /o/ | 08:02 |
| faenil | |o| | 08:02 |
| sledges | life is life :D | 08:02 |
| faenil | ahah let's not start this :D | 08:02 |
| faenil | yeah...back to studies tomorrow, got to enjoy last day :P | 08:02 |
| faenil | how is it going here? | 08:03 |
| sledges | :D np, wasnt gonna start lol | 08:04 |
| sledges | take the most of | 08:04 |
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| faenil | w00t, ping | 09:09 |
| faenil | oh I think he's on holiday already | 09:10 |
| sledges | yup.. :( | 09:10 |
| faenil | :) | 09:10 |
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| * Sfiet_Konstantin is wondering how much efforts will be needed to do a nemo port of Friends | 10:00 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: do you know how different are the Qt components on nemo compared to harmattan ? | 10:01 |
| rikanee | Sfiet_Konstantin: optimally, you'll migrate it to use Silica components instead of qt-components | 10:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | rikanee: in nemo ? :( | 10:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | the sailfish port is already being done, but I want to target nemo as well | 10:03 |
| sledges | dont kniw withiut trying :) Sfiet_Konstantin | 10:05 |
| sledges | wish i was at home niw | 10:05 |
| sledges | will be in cpl hours | 10:05 |
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| sledges | Sfiet_Konstantin, got an idea about flockable ;) | 10:08 |
| sledges | lol the typo | 10:08 |
| sledges | of you pull down at the top, it fires p | 10:09 |
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| sledges | off down like a slingshot | 10:09 |
| sledges | for fast scrolling ;) | 10:09 |
| sledges | ^brainstorming :) | 10:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: thereis already something like that in silica :) | 10:18 |
| sledges | +ah! | 10:21 |
| sledges | :D | 10:21 |
| sledges | apple goes: "shouldve patented it" :D | 10:23 |
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| sledges | lets do one in nemo! :) | 10:25 |
| sledges | would be nice to port silica to nemo :D no? | 10:26 |
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| sledges | or at least do theAPI mapping | 10:46 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: would prefer to wait Silica to open source | 11:56 |
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| sledges | will it? | 12:09 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | sledges: it is said that it will | 12:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (fosdem) | 12:48 |
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| sledges | ah good : | 12:55 |
| sledges | ) | 12:55 |
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| faenil | [URGENT: TAMPERE] looking for help, didn't find a way to print the Checkin today, they want 70€, anyone who can print it for me?? | 13:30 |
| cos- | faenil: i don't have printer at home but i'm going to hackerspace soon and there's a printer | 13:31 |
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| cos- | if you don't find any more convenient way, we could meet there and print it for you | 13:33 |
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| faenil | cos- im already at the airport...:( | 13:34 |
| Superpelican | vgrade: sorry for asking, but have you already found something about the missing boot.scr? | 13:35 |
| cos- | faenil: you can ask them to print boarding pass for you.. sometimes they do it for free | 13:35 |
| cos- | at least on proper airlines (not ryanair) | 13:35 |
| faenil | i tried | 13:40 |
| cos- | how soon do you need it? | 13:41 |
| vgrade | Superpelican: no, sledges mentioned that others had sucessfully used that image though | 13:41 |
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| sledges | Superpelican, uboot is not part of the image | 13:44 |
| sledges | read all warning signs here: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Nokia_N900 | 13:44 |
| Superpelican | vgrade:I installed the uboot-pr13 package from Carsten Munk in Maemo | 13:44 |
| Superpelican | I don't have kernel power and am running CSSU Stable | 13:45 |
| sledges | right | 13:45 |
| sledges | Stskeeps, ^ | 13:45 |
| Superpelican | I've booted Nemo Mobile from this exact card before | 13:45 |
| Superpelican | So it isn't the card | 13:45 |
| Superpelican | Unless it got damaged | 13:45 |
| Superpelican | sledges: So you're saying that boot.scr is not part of the image? | 13:46 |
| sledges | no | 13:47 |
| Superpelican | not part of the image? | 13:47 |
| sledges | nemo-armv7hl-n900-mmcblk0p.raw.bz2 | 13:47 |
| sledges | no uboot in this one | 13:47 |
| Superpelican | that's the one I used | 13:47 |
| Superpelican | Should I reinstall uboot-pr13? | 13:47 |
| sledges | you take care of uboot yourself | 13:47 |
| sledges | yup | 13:47 |
| sledges | it should provide .scr | 13:47 |
| Superpelican | ok, will try that then | 13:48 |
| sledges | uboot-pr13 package doesn't provide .scr hmmmm | 13:53 |
| sledges | probably it gets generated at some point | 13:53 |
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| faenil | cos-, kengu2 is helping me, thx anyway! | 13:54 |
| cos- | great | 13:54 |
| faenil | yeah | 13:54 |
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| Superpelican | reinstalled uboot-pr13 still the same errors | 14:32 |
| sledges | Superpelican, I just scanned nemo-armv7hl-n900-mmcblk0p.raw - there is no boot.scr there | 14:33 |
| Superpelican | Is there supposed to be a boot.scr in it? | 14:34 |
| sledges | im sure everything what's in there, has to be in there, and nothing's missing | 14:35 |
| Superpelican | is there a utility I can open the .raw myself? | 14:35 |
| sledges | I just doublechecked | 14:35 |
| Superpelican | Then maybe I can check previous images | 14:35 |
| sledges | Superpelican, you can run fdisk on it | 14:35 |
| Superpelican | ok | 14:35 |
| sledges | but i couldn't mount the partitions inside :( | 14:35 |
| sledges | mount -o loop,offset=512 didnt work | 14:35 |
| sledges | so I just viewed it with hexedit | 14:35 |
| sledges | and searched for boot.scr | 14:35 |
| Superpelican | But you said other people succesfully have used this image, right? | 14:36 |
| sledges | yes | 14:36 |
| sledges | i don't know which uboot they used though | 14:36 |
| Superpelican | Weird | 14:36 |
| sledges | maybe it was Pali's | 14:36 |
| Superpelican | Could my microSD be faulty? | 14:36 |
| sledges | well, it should fail on some other point | 14:36 |
| sledges | if you reflashed | 14:37 |
| Superpelican | well I used dd | 14:37 |
| Superpelican | and it succesfully exited | 14:37 |
| sledges | sure, how many times? ;) | 14:37 |
| Superpelican | 2 times | 14:37 |
| sledges | ok | 14:37 |
| Superpelican | flashed | 14:37 |
| Superpelican | And tried multiple times booting with 1 flash | 14:37 |
| Superpelican | The only thing I did different than as the wiki describes | 14:38 |
| Superpelican | is first extract the .bz2 | 14:38 |
| Superpelican | and then just dd rightaway | 14:38 |
| Superpelican | but that shouldn't make a difference, right? | 14:38 |
| Superpelican | N900: "mmc1 available" | 14:38 |
| Superpelican | N900: "reading boot.scr" | 14:38 |
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| sledges | shouldn't | 14:39 |
| Superpelican | N900: "Unable to read "boot.scr" from mmc 0:1" | 14:40 |
| Superpelican | N900:"reading uImage" | 14:40 |
| sledges | ah ofcourse | 14:40 |
| sledges | it just carries on | 14:40 |
| sledges | boot.scr is -optional- | 14:40 |
| sledges | with default command line that is provided either within uboot or kernel | 14:41 |
| Superpelican | and then it says: "twl4030 blahblah: Failed to register misc device" | 14:41 |
| Superpelican | But I think that's normal | 14:41 |
| Superpelican | Then :"Power Management for TI OMAP3" | 14:42 |
| Superpelican | That's probably normal too | 14:42 |
| Superpelican | Then: "drivers/rtc/hctosys.c: unable to open rtc device (rtc0)" | 14:42 |
| * sledges (curses), during days like these I wish I accepted an N900 offered by iekku :P | 14:43 | |
| Superpelican | And now the most interesting part: "Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel for guidance blahblah" | 14:43 |
| * Superpelican wishes he gets offered a N9 | 14:43 | |
| sledges | Superpelican, does it say anywhere [ 0.000000] Kernel command line: .... ? | 14:44 |
| Superpelican | no | 14:44 |
| Superpelican | should I take a picture and upload it somewhere? | 14:44 |
| Superpelican | of the various screens? | 14:44 |
| sledges | can you control the uboot in any way? | 14:45 |
| sledges | (breaking into its prompt) | 14:45 |
| sledges | or maybe trying Pali's u-boot ? | 14:45 |
| Superpelican | I don't know about that | 14:45 |
| Superpelican | I could try Pali's | 14:45 |
| * Superpelican is going to take some screens | 14:46 | |
| sledges | ok | 14:47 |
| sledges | also, can you mount your card on your PC? | 14:47 |
| sledges | and see all paritions? | 14:47 |
| Superpelican | it sees "platform" and "boot" | 14:47 |
| Superpelican | as 2 different devices | 14:47 |
| Superpelican | so I think: yes | 14:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess the missing boot.scr made for a bogus kernel cmdline that's missing the proper init= as uBoot already suggests | 14:50 |
| sledges | Superpelican, do any of those contain init binary ? | 14:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | "init binary" is a fuzzy term | 14:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | afaik for maemo for example it's /sbin/preinit | 14:52 |
| sledges | DocScrutinizer05, kernel cmdline should come from kernel itself | 14:52 |
| sledges | as it is the only package provided by nemo | 14:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | that largely depends on kernel | 14:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | usually _not_ | 14:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | actually the message "Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel..." is from kernel, not from uBoot, I'd say | 14:54 |
| Superpelican | sledges: the 2 screens: http://ubuntuone.com/7ChPGx0XxN36n51JBMuLbq && http://ubuntuone.com/7dBdzBm43KKOgQOEQL75zV | 14:54 |
| sledges | DocScrutinizer05 it is from kernel surely | 14:55 |
| sledges | my logic is that nemo needs its own cmdline, so it injects it in kernel-adaptation-n900 | 14:56 |
| sledges | as there are no other packages in the boot chain | 14:56 |
| sledges | uboot comes from maemo, but it doesn know what nemo kernel needs, so absence of boot.scr is logical | 14:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so if that kernel suggests "Try passing init= option..." but in fact ignores it since it's using hardcoded kernel cmdline then I'd say thumbs up for epic failure in the kernel | 14:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mind you: "Unable to read "boot.scr" from mmc 0:1" | 14:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aiui boot.scr is meant to get provided by the (nemo) system / fs you want to boot | 14:58 |
| sledges | Try passing init option springs to mind that everything went fine, but rootfs was not mounted | 14:58 |
| sledges | ah, in case it needs to prepare u-boot as well | 14:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep, rootfs is another kernel cmdline parameter set by boot.scr | 14:59 |
| sledges | as boot.scr can contain more than just a bootargs, you're right | 14:59 |
| sledges | but boot.scr is nowhere to be found across all packages i checked | 14:59 |
| Superpelican | Should I uninstall uboot-pr13, run the --reinstall kernel-flasher stuff in Maemo & install Pali's uboot? | 15:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | afaik uBoot looks for boot.scr in root (/) of first vfat partition of the uSD | 15:00 |
| sledges | Superpelican, anything under 'boot' partition when you put SD card into your host? | 15:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | whatever means you used to prepare and populate your uSD partitons, it should as well provide the boot.scr | 15:01 |
| Superpelican | The last time I put the microSD in the computer | 15:02 |
| Superpelican | after 1st flash | 15:02 |
| Superpelican | there where several files in the boot partition, yes | 15:02 |
| Superpelican | including a uImage | 15:02 |
| Superpelican | but no boot.scr | 15:02 |
| Superpelican | I checked especially for the boot.scr | 15:02 |
| sledges | meh | 15:03 |
| Superpelican | I will check again, give me a second | 15:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | iirc it's in /, not /boot | 15:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but I may be wrong on that one | 15:03 |
| * sledges needs to check kernel-adaptation-n900 config | 15:03 | |
| sledges | DocScrutinizer05, it is in /, just that VFAT's partitions volume label is 'boot' | 15:03 |
| Superpelican | DocScrutinizer05: you mean the "platform" partition, I suspect? | 15:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | first VFAT partition | 15:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or maybe even 1st partition which has to be vfat | 15:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ? | 15:04 |
| Superpelican | Inserted microSD again | 15:05 |
| Superpelican | It shows 2 "devices": "boot" && "platform" | 15:05 |
| Superpelican | "boot" contains: "config-2.6.37-1.3.Nemo.Adaptation.N9xx-n900", "System.map", "System.map-2.6.37-1.3.Nemo.Adaptation.N9xx-n900" && uImage | 15:06 |
| Superpelican | "platform" contains lots of Linux dirs | 15:06 |
| Superpelican | like home, opt, root, media, bin, boot, dev, etc... | 15:07 |
| sledges | this is the SD card's layout: https://pastee.org/cbuxj | 15:07 |
| sledges | first partition - platform (ext3 or whichever ext) | 15:07 |
| sledges | second - swap | 15:07 |
| sledges | third - boot (vfat) | 15:07 |
| Superpelican | Should I compare with mine with fdisk -l? | 15:07 |
| sledges | Superpelican, it will be the same | 15:07 |
| sledges | im just sheding some more light on the situation | 15:08 |
| sledges | Superpelican, you can check your platform:/boot/ | 15:08 |
| sledges | but i think it will be empty | 15:08 |
| Superpelican | http://pastebin.com/74mEQfku | 15:08 |
| Superpelican | oh | 15:08 |
| Superpelican | platform/boot is empty | 15:09 |
| sledges | normal | 15:09 |
| Superpelican | ok | 15:09 |
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| Superpelican | I just let dolphin search for "boot.scr" on platform | 15:10 |
| Superpelican | no items found | 15:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | N900: "Unable to read "boot.scr" from mmc 0:1 seems to suggest that uBoot looks for boot.scr on FIRST partition of mmc0. And *this* confuses me a bit: N900: "mmc1 available" | 15:11 |
| sledges | just a sem, still checking kernel config | 15:11 |
| Superpelican | maybe this is helpful: http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.meego.handset/month=20110101 | 15:11 |
| Superpelican | just use ctrl+f: "boot.scr" to jump to the relevant part | 15:11 |
| Superpelican | "" | 15:12 |
| Superpelican | N900 doesn't mount the MMC when the cover is open, and | 15:12 |
| Superpelican | that's usually producing this kind of symptoms. | 15:12 |
| Superpelican | cited from the above link | 15:12 |
| sledges | did you close the back cover of N900 before booting..? | 15:12 |
| sledges | :) | 15:12 |
| Superpelican | Maybe my rear cover sensor is broken? | 15:12 |
| sledges | right | 15:12 |
| Superpelican | I'll try the image I used the first time I booted Nemo Mobile | 15:13 |
| sledges | ok | 15:13 |
| Superpelican | If that doesn't work it's either uboot or broken sensor | 15:13 |
| Superpelican | Or I'll try Cordia HD | 15:13 |
| Superpelican | Hmm, first time was December 2012 | 15:14 |
| Superpelican | That image isn't on the repo anymore | 15:14 |
| Superpelican | first is 9 Jan 2013 | 15:14 |
| sledges | CONFIG_CMDLINE="root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 rootwait ro console=ttyO2,115200n8 console=tty0 omapfb.vram=0:2M,1:2M,2:2M mtdoops.mtddev=2 quiet" | 15:14 |
| Superpelican | ? | 15:15 |
| sledges | it's inside the kernerl | 15:15 |
| Superpelican | What does it do exactly? | 15:16 |
| Superpelican | Downloaded Cordia HD image | 15:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | console=what?? | 15:16 |
| Stskeeps | looks right | 15:16 |
| sledges | it comes into effect when uboot (itself or from boot.scr) does not provide bootargs | 15:16 |
| Superpelican | So boot.scr is 100% unrelated to the image? | 15:17 |
| sledges | 90% | 15:17 |
| Superpelican | Otherwise I can try uncompressing the downloaded image with bzcat | 15:17 |
| Superpelican | like on the wiki | 15:17 |
| sledges | it might have extra initialisation for uboot | 15:17 |
| Superpelican | instead of ark (KDE) | 15:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that cmdline has no init= | 15:18 |
| Superpelican | Could I manually set init= ? | 15:18 |
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| sledges | Superpelican, why you no image? http://releases.nemomobile.org/snapshots/images/ :) | 15:18 |
| sledges | DocScrutinizer05, means it goes through defaults | 15:18 |
| Superpelican | I know | 15:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so either kernel tries to load whatever is default in kernel (/sbin/init ?), or the whole thing can't work at all | 15:19 |
| sledges | there's a list in kernel source (starts with /init, then /sbin/init probably ../preinit etc) | 15:19 |
| xavinux | sledges: Hi, how are you... | 15:19 |
| sledges | xavinux, not too bad, fighting for n900 as you see :) | 15:19 |
| sledges | xavinux, yourself? | 15:19 |
| sledges | GentSir was interested in how you xavinux managed to get internet to nemo vm ? | 15:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and I'm not too happy with that console=ttyO2 | 15:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it most likely eats lots of power all the time | 15:20 |
| sledges | tty0 you mean | 15:21 |
| sledges | ah, the first occurrence | 15:21 |
| sledges | anyway | 15:21 |
| xavinux | well I want to tell you btw that I downloaded image i586 but after 9nstalled it in Hard disk didn t boot any more | 15:21 |
| xavinux | but I try i486 and after installed it to Hard disk runs ok | 15:22 |
| sledges | xavinux, use i486, i586 is broken :{ | 15:22 |
| sledges | lol | 15:22 |
| sledges | well done \o/ | 15:22 |
| xavinux | and can connect via SSH from my Ubuntu Desktop | 15:22 |
| xavinux | ahhhh ok | 15:22 |
| sledges | xavinux, but do you access internet from within vm? | 15:22 |
| xavinux | yes I do | 15:23 |
| sledges | *can you | 15:23 |
| sledges | ok | 15:23 |
| sledges | with bridged or with NATted net adapter? | 15:23 |
| xavinux | no I set Bridge | 15:24 |
| sledges | ok | 15:24 |
| xavinux | and it isn t nevessary to nat port 22 | 15:24 |
| sledges | good | 15:24 |
| sledges | thanks for that info, GentSir will be happy :) | 15:24 |
| xavinux | after installation can connect via SSH to the root console from Ubuntu 12.04 | 15:24 |
| xavinux | :) | 15:25 |
| xavinux | the only thing that don t work in i486 | 15:25 |
| xavinux | is when | 15:25 |
| xavinux | CTRL+F2 is pressed | 15:25 |
| xavinux | after installation can t access | 15:25 |
| xavinux | root console for login | 15:25 |
| sledges | black screen? | 15:26 |
| xavinux | yes | 15:26 |
| xavinux | black screen | 15:26 |
| sledges | known issue :) | 15:26 |
| sledges | ssh should suffice ;P | 15:26 |
| xavinux | F2, F3, F4 ....all in black screen | 15:26 |
| sledges | it was due to the graphics drivers (mesa llvmpipe <- Stskeeps knows that bit ) | 15:26 |
| Superpelican | dd'ing cordia hd image to microSD | 15:26 |
| xavinux | ah ok | 15:26 |
| xavinux | wich is the diference between i486 and i586? | 15:27 |
| sledges | Superpelican, im bunzipping nemo n900 20120920.1. 2012-10-07 | 15:27 |
| sledges | xavinux, instruction set | 15:27 |
| xavinux | ok | 15:28 |
| Superpelican | ok, thanks | 15:28 |
| Superpelican | but where did you get that 2012 image? | 15:28 |
| sledges | Superpelican, see that link | 15:28 |
| Superpelican | ah, I see | 15:28 |
| sledges | where i said "why you no image" ;D | 15:28 |
| Superpelican | I was looking at the wrong column | 15:28 |
| xavinux | Superpelican from http://releases.nemomobile.org/snapshots/images/ | 15:28 |
| Superpelican | I was looking at the "uploaded on" | 15:29 |
| Superpelican | column on the page you're linking to | 15:29 |
| Superpelican | They were apparently reuploaded in 2013 | 15:29 |
| Superpelican | But it are the same images | 15:29 |
| xavinux | http://releases.nemomobile.org/snapshots/images/0.20130411.1.NEMO.2013-04-26.1/ | 15:29 |
| Superpelican | flashing to microSD done | 15:29 |
| Superpelican | trying cordia HD | 15:29 |
| sledges | ok | 15:30 |
| Superpelican | cordia HD image gives the same errors | 15:31 |
| Superpelican | also can't read boot.scr | 15:31 |
| xavinux | sledges: instructions set are ARM in both images i486 and i586? | 15:31 |
| sledges | ok, so nemo not a fault :) | 15:31 |
| Superpelican | It's uboot or the rear cover sensor | 15:31 |
| sledges | xavinux, they are Intel CPU instructions | 15:31 |
| Superpelican | I'll try booting while pressing the rear cover | 15:31 |
| sledges | xavinux, ARM CPU instructions are in the ARM images ;) | 15:32 |
| sledges | ok | 15:32 |
| xavinux | and what instructions differences are between both images? | 15:33 |
| sledges | xavinux, it's how they are compiled for a particular CPU (nemo features and functionality is identical across both): http://myonlineusb.wordpress.com/2011/06/08/what-is-the-difference-between-i386-i486-i586-i686-i786/ | 15:34 |
| Superpelican | Going to try exactly: "bzcat nemo-armv7hl-n900-mmcblk0p.raw.bz2 | dd bs=4096 | pv -s 3816M | sudo dd bs=4096 of=/dev/sdb" | 15:34 |
| sledges | ok Superpelican .. i wonder if anyone else is here with n900 who could tell their boot messages | 15:36 |
| sledges | (regarding boot.scr and whatnot) | 15:36 |
| xavinux | my notebook is CORE2 DUO CPU, is that the reason that I must use i486 intead of i586 image | 15:36 |
| xavinux | ? | 15:36 |
| Superpelican | xavinux: not think so | 15:37 |
| sledges | xavinux, no, in nemo i586 there is a bug | 15:37 |
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| Superpelican | xavinux: technically core 2 duo is x86_64 | 15:37 |
| Superpelican | xavinux: and also supports i686 | 15:37 |
| xavinux | ok so it s a bug issue.... | 15:37 |
| xavinux | of the i486 iso....I understand now... | 15:38 |
| Superpelican | xavinux: but I thought I had read on the Mer wiki that there was a very strange i*86 mapping within the project | 15:38 |
| Superpelican | i586 was actually i686 or something like that | 15:38 |
| xavinux | ok | 15:38 |
| sledges | Superpelican, xavinux , yes: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/OBS_architecture_naming | 15:39 |
| Superpelican | sledges: Yes I meant hat | 15:40 |
| Superpelican | *that | 15:40 |
| Superpelican | was just searching for that | 15:40 |
| sledges | :) read your mind | 15:40 |
| Superpelican | but i*86 is backwards compatible, right? | 15:41 |
| Superpelican | Answering myself, yes: i486: "Generic i486+ X86 port" | 15:42 |
| Superpelican | and i586: "SSSE3 enabled X86 port " | 15:42 |
| Superpelican | So i586 is basically only for extra performance | 15:42 |
| Superpelican | armv7hl under armv8el? | 15:43 |
| Superpelican | That really is confusing | 15:43 |
| Superpelican | and what when ARMv8 comes along? | 15:43 |
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| Stskeeps | Superpelican: that's due to history and insanity from obs side.. | 15:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:43 |
| Stskeeps | we had no other choice at that point | 15:43 |
| Superpelican | ok | 15:43 |
| Superpelican | and now you've probably more important things to do than finding out how to change all that stuff | 15:44 |
| Superpelican | :) | 15:44 |
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| Superpelican | sledges: dolphin complains about bad superblock while accesing "platform" on the microSD while cordia is flashed | 15:47 |
| sledges | e | 15:47 |
| sledges | :) | 15:47 |
| Superpelican | But it didn't when Nemo was flashed | 15:48 |
| Superpelican | So I don't think that's it | 15:48 |
| Superpelican | Anyway, going to flash nemo again with bzcat this time | 15:48 |
| Superpelican | like on the wiki | 15:48 |
| Superpelican | instead of first extracting with ark | 15:48 |
| Superpelican | and then plain dd'ing | 15:48 |
| sledges | right | 15:49 |
| Superpelican | computer getting sluggish due to copying large amount data from external USB drive :( | 15:49 |
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| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage SR#351 Rejected promotion request | 15:52 |
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| Superpelican | sledges: flashing with bzcat didn't help either | 15:57 |
| Superpelican | sledges: Going to try Pali's uboot now | 15:57 |
| Superpelican | sledges: where do you actually find Pali's uboot, also in extras-devel? | 15:57 |
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| marxistvegan | anyword on the N9 firmware recovery mirror being found? | 16:05 |
| sledges | marxistvegan, yes | 16:08 |
| marxistvegan | sledges: what is the word? | 16:08 |
| sledges | PMed you | 16:09 |
| sledges | Superpelican, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81613 | 16:09 |
| Superpelican | brb, need to reboot my system | 16:11 |
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| marxistvegan | sledges: awesome...though now i need to figure out which one to use | 16:12 |
| marxistvegan | sledges: are there any major differences or is the standard 16gb row black ok | 16:13 |
| sledges | row? | 16:14 |
| marxistvegan | sledges: I was looking at the first one listed | 16:14 |
| sledges | ROW = rest of the world | 16:14 |
| sledges | ;) | 16:14 |
| marxistvegan | that seems good then, cause US is not listed and neither is mexico | 16:15 |
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| marxistvegan | sledges: I am going to go with the rest of the world, but will have to wait slow internet and that is one big file | 16:25 |
| sledges | true | 16:26 |
| ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: hey | 16:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hey? | 16:30 |
| ZogG_laptop | sup | 16:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | puss | 16:30 |
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| Superpelican | sledges: I'm trying to install Pali's u-boot with kernel 2.6.28-omap1 | 16:42 |
| Superpelican | sledges:I've deinstalled uboot-pr13 and run apt-get install --reinstall kernel kernel-flasher | 16:42 |
| Superpelican | sledges: and rebooted, but can't install pali's uboot: "!!!U-Boot with kernel 2.6.28-omap1 breaks the 3rd party package policy" | 16:43 |
| sledges | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85665&highlight=u-boot | 16:46 |
| sledges | Superpelican, ^ | 16:46 |
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| Superpelican | sledges: I don't have kernel power | 16:47 |
| ZogG_laptop | Superpelican: so what are your powers> | 16:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | ? | 16:48 |
| Superpelican | ? | 16:49 |
| Superpelican | ZogG_laptop: I have stock Nokia kernel | 16:49 |
| sledges | Superpelican, you tried cordia and two different nemo images - same problem | 16:49 |
| sledges | i don't think your uboot is wrong softwarewise | 16:50 |
| sledges | i sniff some hw problems | 16:50 |
| Superpelican | sledges: :( | 16:51 |
| Superpelican | sledges:It really used to work | 16:51 |
| Superpelican | sledges:Do you suspect N900 or microSD card | 16:51 |
| sledges | but you tried that old image again | 16:51 |
| sledges | and it doesn't work | 16:51 |
| Superpelican | sledges:I' haven't tried the old image actually | 16:51 |
| sledges | well, to try another sd card is easiest | 16:51 |
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| sledges | 8| | 16:51 |
| sledges | :) | 16:51 |
| Superpelican | sledges:but what about Pali's U-BOOT? | 16:52 |
| sledges | it's for power kernel as it says | 16:52 |
| Superpelican | sledges:Is it temporarily broken? | 16:52 |
| sledges | dunno | 16:52 |
| * sledges not got a n900 here sadly | 16:52 | |
| sledges | i thought you could try pali as an alternative | 16:53 |
| sledges | because if it was SD card fault, why would cordia and twon nemos fail | 16:53 |
| sledges | on the same place? | 16:53 |
| sledges | on an sd card | 16:53 |
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| sledges | as cordias fs layout is different i'd expect | 16:54 |
| Superpelican__ | sledges: should I install Stskeeps's U-Boot again? | 16:56 |
| sledges | i though it's still there | 16:56 |
| sledges | well, once you said your sdcard (dolphin??) complained about superblock | 16:56 |
| sledges | it can be that kernel cannot mount properly the main (platform) rootfs and cannot find init | 16:56 |
| sledges | so it's sd card's fault | 16:56 |
| sledges | or back lid cover switch problem (need to figure out how exactly does n900 stop booting when there's no lid - what are the messages etc) | 16:57 |
| sledges | as that link wasn't exactly about that | 16:57 |
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| Superpelican__ | dolphin is the file manager of KDE :) | 16:59 |
| sledges | :) | 17:03 |
| sledges | gotya | 17:03 |
| Superpelican__ | but why can the N900 load the Nemo kernel then? | 17:05 |
| Superpelican__ | if it's the SD card's fault? | 17:05 |
| sledges | not the whole card is broken | 17:11 |
| sledges | just platform bits | 17:11 |
| sledges | enough if only info around your init binary is borked | 17:11 |
| sledges | but weirdest is that you -can- mount it on your host | 17:11 |
| sledges | might be that it wore down to a level where n900/kernel can't deal with it anymore | 17:12 |
| * vgrade writes image to sdcard to try in n900 | 17:12 | |
| sledges | \o/ | 17:12 |
| sledges | :) | 17:12 |
| Superpelican__ | impossible | 17:13 |
| sledges | after what i've seen in embedded world, anything becomes possible :D | 17:14 |
| sledges | just by looking into this statement: .. race condition... This has been confirmed on at least Samsung cards (8 GB class 6 and CLass 10 by Netweaver and Flocke000) ... :) | 17:16 |
| sledges | there are issues with proper initialization of the SD card ^ | 17:16 |
| sledges | although surely your n900 not being able to boot from sd card anymore can also be possible | 17:16 |
| sledges | so far so it seems | 17:16 |
| Superpelican__ | I've a Sandisk Ultra Mobile 8 GB SDHC UHS-I | 17:19 |
| Superpelican__ | Faster than class 10 | 17:19 |
| Superpelican__ | Bought it specially for running Nemo on n900 :) | 17:19 |
| Superpelican__ | I've flashed images to it about 10 times max including today | 17:20 |
| Superpelican__ | That's all I've used it | 17:21 |
| Superpelican__ | It's as good as new | 17:21 |
| sledges | faster than class 10 ? could be too cool for school | 17:21 |
| sledges | but I know I know, you say it worked some day in the past | 17:21 |
| sledges | so let's just try that old image one shall we? | 17:21 |
| sledges | and wait for vgrade to say his boot sequence messages | 17:21 |
| Superpelican__ | I've also installed uboot-p13 again | 17:22 |
| sledges | good | 17:22 |
| Superpelican__ | and I've also done apt-get install --reinstall kernel kernel-flasher | 17:22 |
| Superpelican__ | Because I wanted to install Pali's Uboot | 17:23 |
| Superpelican__ | I didn't do that the 1st time I reinstalled U-boot | 17:23 |
| sledges | doubt if that's relevant | 17:24 |
| Superpelican__ | ok | 17:24 |
| Superpelican__ | I did drop my n900 a few times after the first time I tried Nemo | 17:26 |
| Superpelican__ | So maybe it's really a hw fault :( | 17:26 |
| Superpelican__ | Although I haven't noticed any weird behaviour | 17:26 |
| sledges | internal part of a back lid latch? | 17:27 |
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| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage SR#352 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/352 | 17:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Superpelican__: "third party policy" error in HAM? Caused by expired Nokia cert. Enable red-pill mode in HAM, in setting smenu check "ignore 3rd party policy" (OWTTE) | 17:41 |
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| Superpelican__ | :( just installed Uboot-pr13 | 17:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | np, the advice is valid tomorrow as well ;-D | 17:46 |
| Superpelican__ | But where do you find the red-pill mode? | 17:48 |
| sledges | in settings menu | 17:48 |
| sledges | (?) | 17:48 |
| Superpelican__ | ok | 17:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ask aunt google | 17:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | here you are: http://wiki.maemo.org/Red_Pill_mode | 17:52 |
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| Superpelican | DocScrutinizer05: where do you find the 3rd party policy option in the settings menu? | 18:17 |
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| Superpelican | You mean in the "Settings" | 18:19 |
| Superpelican | Or in a settings/options part of HAM? | 18:19 |
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| sledges | Superpelican, http://wiki.maemo.org/Red_Pill_mode | 18:22 |
| sledges | under "Activate" | 18:22 |
| Superpelican | ok thanks | 18:24 |
| Superpelican | going to try | 18:24 |
| Superpelican | I've already updated the config file | 18:24 |
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| * Superpelican is installing Pali's U-boot | 18:30 | |
| Superpelican | successfully installed :D | 18:30 |
| Superpelican | now trying if Nemo works | 18:31 |
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| vgrade | Superpelican: , sledges image works here | 18:31 |
| sledges | vgrade, does it spit boot.scr not found? | 18:31 |
| vgrade | yes | 18:32 |
| sledges | did he just quit? :D | 18:32 |
| sledges | those were his last words: 19:31 < Superpelican> now trying if Nemo works | 18:32 |
| vgrade | but continues to boot nemo kernel | 18:32 |
| sledges | vgrade, using which uboot? | 18:32 |
| sledges | Stskeeps' ? | 18:32 |
| vgrade | from instruction on wiki | 18:33 |
| sledges | there are two options | 18:33 |
| sledges | Carsten's and Pali's | 18:33 |
| Stskeeps | stop hilighting me :( | 18:33 |
| vgrade | did it probably two years ago | 18:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | lol | 18:33 |
| sledges | lol to all :) | 18:34 |
| sledges | well, it's your uboot Stskeeps nevertheless :P | 18:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Stskeeps: people think they can highlight me by doc or docs, go figure ;-) | 18:34 |
| vgrade | sledges: I remember enabling extras etc | 18:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Stskeeps: I suggest you change your highlight regex to "Stskeeps:" | 18:35 |
| Stskeeps | DocScrutinizer05: it becomes a problem in #tizen at times, yes | 18:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or even "^Stskeeps:" | 18:38 |
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| Superpelican | Pali's U-Boot didn't help | 18:41 |
| Superpelican | Still getting the same error | 18:41 |
| Superpelican | Will try the old 2012 image when I've time again | 18:41 |
| sledges | well, sd card or n900 | 18:41 |
| sledges | vgrade, which image did you just try? | 18:41 |
| Superpelican | probably next weekend | 18:41 |
| Superpelican | Has vgrade also tried on his N900? | 18:42 |
| vgrade | yes works ok | 18:42 |
| sledges | latest img? | 18:42 |
| vgrade | if I boot without back cover i get panic and no init found | 18:42 |
| sledges | ah!!! | 18:43 |
| Superpelican | :( | 18:43 |
| sledges | Superpelican, poke around the lid cover switch :) | 18:43 |
| Superpelican | Probably my sensor is broken then | 18:43 |
| sledges | with a match stick maybe | 18:43 |
| vgrade | there was a magnet trick I recall | 18:43 |
| Superpelican | Can't we make a Nemo Mobile BBRE ;) | 18:43 |
| Superpelican | Broken Rear Cover Edition | 18:44 |
| Superpelican | with support for broken rear covers :) | 18:44 |
| Superpelican | where is the lid cover switch? | 18:44 |
| Superpelican | never noticed one | 18:44 |
| dm8tbr | the magnet is under the kickstand | 18:45 |
| sledges | Superpelican, backcover swithes of SD card | 18:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sledges: eh??? | 18:45 |
| sledges | DocScrutinizer05, and all: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=38739&highlight=magnet | 18:45 |
| sledges | *lack of backcover | 18:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you think I need that? | 18:45 |
| sledges | Superpelican, you could flash nemo onto nand, no? | 18:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sledges: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1352484&postcount=24 | 18:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you could also find a fridge magnet | 18:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and cut a small piece of it | 18:47 |
| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage SR#350 Rejected promotion request | 18:48 |
| Superpelican | sledges: never tried that and would rather not try flashing to nand | 18:48 |
| Superpelican | n900 is my only phone | 18:48 |
| Superpelican | need it for everyday use | 18:48 |
| sledges | well Superpelican we finally arrived to the rootcause | 18:49 |
| Superpelican | ehhh, that metal thing which is shown on that picture | 18:49 |
| Superpelican | with a red oval drawn around it | 18:49 |
| Superpelican | I can't remember I've actually seen the whole thing ever | 18:50 |
| Superpelican | just checked | 18:51 |
| Superpelican | I don't have it | 18:51 |
| Superpelican | never had | 18:51 |
| sledges | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=72675&highlight=magnet&page=3 | 18:51 |
| sledges | posts #24,#28,#30 | 18:51 |
| sledges | and so on | 18:51 |
| Superpelican | but my rear cover does have a special place like shown on the picture | 18:52 |
| sledges | post #38 afterwards | 18:52 |
| sledges | Superpelican, it's because you haven't stuck anything on it yet (and that guy did stuck a magnet on there) | 18:52 |
| sledges | so basically at first by holding a fridge magnet against that place, you should be able to boot nemo | 18:52 |
| Superpelican | wait a second | 18:55 |
| Superpelican | I suddenly remember that recently my camera suddenly opens sometimes, just randomly | 18:56 |
| Superpelican | several times a day, past days | 18:56 |
| Superpelican | that's probably related to the problem | 18:57 |
| sledges | crazy world :) | 18:57 |
| Superpelican | It just randomly opened the camera app again | 18:58 |
| Superpelican | I was wondering why it was doing that all those days | 18:59 |
| Superpelican | and now I understand | 18:59 |
| Superpelican | either it brokenhearted or something is loose since I dropped it accidently | 18:59 |
| Superpelican | oops | 18:59 |
| Superpelican | autocorrect on maemo ;) | 19:00 |
| sledges | yes, your n900 might be brokenhearted as well :) | 19:00 |
| Superpelican | brokenhearted = broken | 19:00 |
| sledges | true too | 19:00 |
| sledges | :D | 19:00 |
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| neochapay | hi every one i have first boot nemo on friendlyarm :) no sound no touch but it only first boot :) | 19:01 |
| Superpelican | poor thing it's a victim of my clumsiness ;) | 19:01 |
| Superpelican | now it's brokenhearted lol | 19:01 |
| neochapay | https://plus.google.com/117607608807703808914/posts/cNYbRergzTT | 19:02 |
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| Superpelican | well just another reason Jolla really has to hurry :) | 19:02 |
| phaeron | neochapay: cool :) | 19:04 |
| vgrade | neochapay: noce | 19:04 |
| vgrade | nice | 19:04 |
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| neochapay | There is one thing but the interface does not start automatically, and I do not understand why | 19:05 |
| neochapay | and touch not work :) | 19:05 |
| neochapay | but the mouse is saving me | 19:06 |
| sledges | neochapay, great \o/ job | 19:06 |
| sledges | neochapay, must be mcompositor probably | 19:06 |
| vgrade | neochapay: systemd usersession is in control of boot order. | 19:06 |
| sledges | how do you start manually? lipstick? | 19:06 |
| vgrade | neochapay: if something does not run then sequence does not complete | 19:07 |
| neochapay | sledges: yes i connect to ssh and run DYSPLAY=:0 lipstick | 19:07 |
| neochapay | sledges: mcompositor says no EGL support :( | 19:07 |
| sledges | that's the reason | 19:08 |
| sledges | you can get gui to boot automatically | 19:08 |
| sledges | just comment out mcompositor.target in /usr/lib/systemd/lipstick.service | 19:08 |
| sledges | (or .service, can't ever remember) | 19:08 |
| sledges | neochapay, could you tweet that as well btw pls? | 19:09 |
| vgrade | neochapay: try installing xorg-x11-drv-mtev and edit xorg.conf to use mtdev instead of evdev, sometimes gets touch working | 19:11 |
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| neochapay | sledges: did not help :( | 19:15 |
| neochapay | vgrade: ок 2 min pls | 19:15 |
| neochapay | sledges: https://twitter.com/neochapay/status/346345207094206465 twi | 19:16 |
| sledges | neochapay, thanks hope you don't mind the embed pic: https://twitter.com/NemoMobile/status/346346759838105601 | 19:22 |
| neochapay | Of course not | 19:23 |
| sledges | neochapay, journalctl will show what's failing and when during startup | 19:24 |
| sledges | commenting out mcompositor* in /usr/lib/systemd/user/lipstick.service used to do the trick on other boards (am355x, imx6) | 19:25 |
| ZogG_laptop | btw why latest version lack of most settings :( | 19:26 |
| sledges | ZogG_laptop, 'cause they never worked anyhow lol | 19:27 |
| sledges | nemo is WIP, so the new settings is lightweight and does not depend on dead frameworks anymore | 19:27 |
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| ZogG_laptop | sledges: date/time had nice feature i miss | 19:27 |
| ZogG_laptop | 12/24 hours :) | 19:27 |
| sledges | :) | 19:27 |
| sledges | I bet is just a one line fix ;P | 19:27 |
| sledges | now that it is all clean | 19:28 |
| sledges | QML rewritten | 19:28 |
| ZogG_laptop | where is nemo code btw? | 19:28 |
| sledges | https://github.com/nemomobile | 19:28 |
| ZogG_laptop | nice | 19:28 |
| Superpelican | hmm opening lens cover also only sometimes triggers launch of camera app | 19:30 |
| Superpelican | before it worked | 19:30 |
| sledges | Superpelican, dodgy connections | 19:30 |
| Superpelican | it's really that rear cover stuff | 19:30 |
| Superpelican | well I'll try magnets next weekend | 19:31 |
| Superpelican | and thanks for all your help | 19:31 |
| neochapay | sledges: i think start UI not write on systemd :( | 19:31 |
| vgrade | Superpelican: np | 19:31 |
| sledges | welcome | 19:31 |
| sledges | neochapay, try as non-root (nemo) user: journalctl | 19:31 |
| neochapay | sledges: i have only root user :))) | 19:32 |
| sledges | :D | 19:32 |
| sledges | well there's your answer | 19:32 |
| sledges | Xorg is launched as UID 1000 | 19:32 |
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| sledges | and all deps afterwards | 19:32 |
| neochapay | sledges: ok what groups add to new user ? | 19:32 |
| Superpelican | I think I should clean the rear cover too | 19:33 |
| sledges | by user-session@1000.service | 19:33 |
| Superpelican | It has lots of dust | 19:33 |
| ZogG_laptop | anyone mind to tell me where qml files of native apps? | 19:33 |
| ZogG_laptop | and why mlocate is not in repos :) | 19:34 |
| sledges | neochapay, it's handled by systemd, standard intallation has that user setup | 19:34 |
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| ZogG_laptop | systemd ? | 19:34 |
| ZogG_laptop | is nemo infeccted with it? | 19:34 |
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| sledges | lol ZogG_laptop , you want to go back to init.d ? :D | 19:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Superpelican: when backcover magnet sensor doesn't signal that back lid is closed then opening cam door will not have any effect | 19:34 |
| sledges | ZogG_laptop, e.g. for settings app QMLs are right here: https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlsettings | 19:35 |
| ZogG_laptop | sledges: i don't like things like systemd | 19:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | If I had to bet on sth, I'd bet on: your back lid magnet sticks to the metal patchy in kickstand | 19:35 |
| ZogG_laptop | when do they include kernel in it? | 19:35 |
| sledges | ZogG_laptop, I didn't like either, until started analysing how nemo uses it and my desktop distro (archlinux) started using it | 19:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so each time you flip out the kickstand a few degrees, the magnet sensor thinks the lid got removed | 19:36 |
| sledges | ZogG_laptop, kernel is different per-device, hardware adaptations exist in mer/nemo build system (build.merproject.org) | 19:36 |
| vgrade | ZogG_laptop: nemo is transitiong to git repos. Most middleware is there, rest will follow. Other packages can be found on merproject OBS | 19:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | flip out kickstand and check if there's a magnet in that pit in middle of lower end of where kickstand rests in back lid | 19:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | check if at same location there's a small magnet on kickstand itself | 19:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or just the flush metal patchie | 19:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you can glue the magnet back into place with a drop of superglue | 19:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (let "dry" for at least 5h!) | 19:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (keep kickstand away from magnet for that time) | 19:41 |
| neochapay | ithink its not good :) | 19:42 |
| neochapay | Jun 16 22:40:10 nemo-friendlyarm systemd[1845]: ngfd.service: main process exited, code=exited, status=1 | 19:42 |
| neochapay | Jun 16 22:40:10 nemo-friendlyarm systemd[1845]: Unit ngfd.service entered failed state. | 19:42 |
| neochapay | Jun 16 22:40:11 nemo-friendlyarm oneshot[1955]: rm: cannot remove `/etc/oneshot.d/1000/00-initial-user-setup': Permission denied | 19:42 |
| neochapay | Jun 16 22:40:11 nemo-friendlyarm oneshot[1955]: oneshot: /etc/oneshot.d/1000/00-initial-user-setup - FAIL | 19:42 |
| neochapay | Jun 16 22:40:11 nemo-friendlyarm invoker[1980]: error: Failed to initiate connect on the socket. | 19:42 |
| neochapay | Jun 16 22:40:11 nemo-friendlyarm invoker[1980]: error: Start application /usr/bin/voicecall-ui as a binary executable without launcher... | 19:42 |
| sledges | neochapay, pastebin pls | 19:42 |
| neochapay | sledges: sory | 19:42 |
| sledges | dw | 19:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | :) | 19:43 |
| sledges | worth checking what that initial-user-setup does | 19:43 |
| sledges | hmmmm, and oneshot scripts should start only once per installation ;) | 19:43 |
| vgrade | probably wrote files as root , now can't run as nemo user | 19:43 |
| sledges | so something is wrong earlier | 19:43 |
| sledges | true | 19:44 |
| sledges | neochapay, in short, deploy your nemo rootfs by untarring it with --numeric-owner | 19:45 |
| neochapay | sledges: i create my rootfs myself :) | 19:46 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | see http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20130616_002.jpg for magnet and metal patchie (sorry for the dust, nfc where it's from, it seems it's not on the phone) | 19:47 |
| sledges | neochapay, that sentence still holds :P | 19:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: what dd you do to that poor n900 | 19:48 |
| neochapay | this full boot log http://pastebin.com/f4vJNgvB | 19:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ZogG_laptop: maybe that other N900 which shot the photo had some dust on lens ;-P | 19:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I I have dust here that's only visible in blueish-white LED light | 19:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s/I I/Or I/ | 19:50 |
| sledges | neochapay, did you place the kernel modules on nemo rootfs? And it also needs to have proper UIDs across all files, could you check it has not only "root:root" everywhere? | 19:51 |
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| ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: GIVE ME ONE :) | 19:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | huh? | 19:54 |
| ZogG_laptop | you have too many | 19:54 |
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| neochapay | sledges: no not only root:root i can start lipstic but sysui crash to segfl | 19:56 |
| sledges | neochapay, sure lipstick is not picky about how you start it | 19:58 |
| sledges | but proper permissions and hardware adaptation files in place is what ensures the integrity of the system | 19:58 |
| sledges | also, don't forget, you have no GSM chip (and other peripherals) on board, so many thing -will- crash | 19:59 |
| neochapay | sledges: i have gsm usb nodem ^) | 19:59 |
| neochapay | :) | 19:59 |
| sledges | no problem, but do you have hardware adaptation for it? ;) | 20:01 |
| neochapay | sledges: of course not tooday i just boot on nemo and get first steep :) | 20:02 |
| sledges | sure :) | 20:03 |
| sledges | just now it's obvious that your journalctl will be a nightmare :) | 20:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20130616_009.jpg I start to think it's sensor noise | 20:03 |
| neochapay | sledges: yep :) but i go to sleep :) | 20:04 |
| sledges | fair play :) | 20:05 |
| sledges | have a dream of what you want to iron out next on your board ;) | 20:05 |
| sledges | ideally you'd resort to lean and mean Mer distro, without any nemo bits | 20:06 |
| sledges | have Xorg running, a qmlviewer | 20:06 |
| sledges | (a tiny subset of what you have now) | 20:06 |
| sledges | and work on hardware acceleration | 20:06 |
| sledges | graphics | 20:06 |
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| sledges | gsm modem,gps; or whatever tickles your fancy :) | 20:06 |
| Superpelican | from wikipedia: "Hot swapping works based on a magnetic sensor which detects removal of the back cover, which causes the partition to be unmounted. " | 20:07 |
| neochapay | sledges: i think first UX touch and EGL | 20:07 |
| Superpelican | that's why it doesn't find the boot.scr | 20:08 |
| Superpelican | you were right | 20:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Superpelican: see backscroll | 20:08 |
| Superpelican | yes | 20:08 |
| sledges | c00l, plain Mer will have glestest for you to measure FPS | 20:09 |
| sledges | and touch will be through Xorg's mtev driver as vgrade pointed out | 20:09 |
| sledges | neochapay, ^ | 20:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Superpelican: I dunno when you rejoined after [2013-06-16 21:34:23] <-- Superpelican has left this server (Quit: Leaving). | 20:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Superpelican: alas it seems here's no channel logging available | 20:10 |
| sledges | yes it is | 20:10 |
| Superpelican | yes there is | 20:10 |
| sledges | it's in the topic :) | 20:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-06-16 21:34:50] <DocScrutinizer05> Superpelican: when backcover magnet sensor doesn't signal that back lid is closed then opening cam door will not have any effect | 20:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-06-16 21:35:51] <DocScrutinizer05> If I had to bet on sth, I'd bet on: your back lid magnet sticks to the metal patchy in kickstand | 20:10 |
| sledges | too late :) | 20:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-06-16 21:36:32] <DocScrutinizer05> so each time you flip out the kickstand a few degrees, the magnet sensor thinks the lid got removed | 20:10 |
| Superpelican | merproject/logs/%23nemomobile/latest.log.html | 20:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh | 20:11 |
| Superpelican | if I remember correctly | 20:11 |
| Superpelican | it's indeed also in the topic | 20:11 |
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| Superpelican | goodbye | 20:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway the question is: is your *magnet* where it should be?` | 20:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | *sigh* | 20:12 |
| sledges | as they say: the road to hell is paved with good intentions :) | 20:15 |
| GentSir | sledges, thanks for pinging me in that earlier. That info was useful | 20:17 |
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| sledges | welcome GentSir , did you use i586 ? ;) | 20:20 |
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| GentSir | sledges, yes, i486 is coming down the tubes right now | 20:22 |
| sledges | good! | 20:25 |
| Merbot | phaeron lbt sage SR#353 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/353 | 20:32 |
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| xavinux | sledge: after updating Nemo i486 do I need somthing else to start devolpe with Pyside...Python and QT | 20:57 |
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| ZogG_laptop | sledges: you know why i have systemd | 21:16 |
| ZogG_laptop | because something fails on boot in my mersdk virtual machine and as i loged in there is no F log there | 21:16 |
| ajalkane | s/have/hate ? | 21:17 |
| ZogG_laptop | exactly | 21:18 |
| ZogG_laptop | thanks you :) | 21:18 |
| ZogG_laptop | some people just make things more difficult when it's totally not a solution | 21:18 |
| vgrade | ZogG_laptop: journalctl | 21:18 |
| ZogG_laptop | vgrade: why would i want to use tool just to read logs? normaly in any distro logs are /var/log | 21:19 |
| vgrade | ZogG_laptop: whatever | 21:19 |
| ZogG_laptop | why do people need to reinvent the wheel | 21:20 |
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| sledges | ZogG_laptop, learn to embrace change. I had to. There's no other way | 21:39 |
| sledges | g'nite people! | 21:40 |
| ZogG_laptop | night | 21:40 |
| ZogG_laptop | sledges: we'll see about it | 21:40 |
| ZogG_laptop | :) | 21:40 |
| sledges | xavinux, qt is there. zypper in python? | 21:40 |
| xavinux | sledges: I am staring with PySide( Python + Qt). | 21:43 |
| ZogG_laptop | xavinux: there is other option | 21:43 |
| ZogG_laptop | lemme find link | 21:44 |
| xavinux | would like to know if I nedd to install some extra package in my Nemo VM i486....to start working with it | 21:44 |
| xavinux | *need | 21:44 |
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| ZogG_laptop | https://github.com/thp/pyotherside | 21:46 |
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| xavinux | thanks ZogG_laptop, will read that | 21:47 |
| xavinux | :) | 21:48 |
| xavinux | seems to be an alternative to Pyside, but is it better to start with it or Pyside is a better option to start programming apps in Python? | 21:51 |
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