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| tachikoma | moin | 08:37 |
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| tachikoma | I finally have nemo running - but how do i leave the flight mode? | 08:37 |
| tachikoma | i can switch it of in the settings app, but it gets turned back on immediatly | 08:37 |
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| spiiroin | tachikoma: does anything interesting show up in the journal? | 08:41 |
| tachikoma | spiiroin: where would the journal be? | 08:43 |
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| spiiroin | tachikoma: as in run "journalctl -fa" from shell and then toggle the flight mode in settings ui -> does something show up | 08:45 |
| tachikoma | lol | 08:47 |
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| tachikoma | now it worked | 08:47 |
| spiiroin | ;-) | 08:48 |
| tachikoma | mh, but only wifi connected, cellular still now connecting, shows me a little antenna with a 'x' beside it | 08:49 |
| tachikoma | the very first time i botted i was asked for my cellular pin, then i was connected, but since then - no luck. Is there a way to trigger that pin request/a cellular connect once more? | 08:50 |
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| tachikoma | and btw - how do i end a running application? ;) | 08:51 |
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| sledges | tachikoma, there is the "PIN Entry" app for PIN entries :) | 09:33 |
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| sledges | to close an app: you swipe from either edge | 09:33 |
| sledges | s/close/minimise | 09:34 |
| sledges | to close it, press and hold on any app in the AppSwitcher screen | 09:34 |
| tachikoma | yes, i can minimise them, but after some time i have a lot of them running ;) | 09:34 |
| tachikoma | ah, ok thx | 09:34 |
| sledges | if you find your SIM card not connecting to the GSM network, please file a bug, this is invaluable for us | 09:35 |
| sledges | would be great if you could try another operator SIM if possible | 09:35 |
| tachikoma | I'll do | 09:36 |
| sledges | cheers :) | 09:36 |
| sledges | happy you got it running! \o/ | 09:36 |
| tachikoma | but can't do that now, have to work ;) | 09:36 |
| sledges | ;) me too lmao | 09:36 |
| sledges | s/lmao/roflol/ :) | 09:37 |
| sledges | (it's a very decent channel ;)) | 09:37 |
| tachikoma | :) | 09:38 |
| tachikoma | yay, pin entry app helped :) | 09:38 |
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| tachikoma | now trying to setup gprs and then back to the coal mines ... | 09:39 |
| sledges | hehe | 09:39 |
| sledges | interesting work you have | 09:39 |
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| sledges | strange, pin entry should autostart :{ (a bug! ;) ) | 09:39 |
| tachikoma | I'll have some longer stay in bugzilla tonight i think | 09:39 |
| sledges | gprs is untested, so you're on ;) | 09:41 |
| sledges | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Status/Matrix | 09:41 |
| tachikoma | yes, saw that matrix already | 09:41 |
| tachikoma | beside teh debugging docu page in the wiki | 09:42 |
| tachikoma | i just need ssh access to the device | 09:42 |
| sledges | set your hosts usb0 dev static ip to 192.168.1.1 | 09:43 |
| sledges | (when you have usb cable plugged ofc) | 09:43 |
| sledges | just added N900 to the matrix ;) | 09:44 |
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| tachikoma | wow, was able to receive a phone call :) | 10:18 |
| sledges | \o/ one box in the matrix ticked off ;) | 10:19 |
| tachikoma | i was not able to start the dialer app though, so no outgoing phonecalls yet | 10:19 |
| tachikoma | gprs also works, ping is fine, but browser just crashes after entering an url | 10:19 |
| sledges | ok, adjusting... :D | 10:19 |
| sledges | hmmm, you can debug it from ssh | 10:20 |
| sledges | DISPLAY=:0 heliumreborn | 10:20 |
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| tachikoma | yeah, will do all that later, just could not resisting to try | 10:20 |
| sledges | you betcha :)) | 10:21 |
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| valdur55 | Oh yea... I wait exam presion ending.. then i will "play" with my mobile | 10:42 |
| sledges | rock on | 10:44 |
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| juiceme | silly question, really. As I still feel a bit mystified each time I have to work with RPM, I cannot even find what package provides a certain utility :( | 11:33 |
| juiceme | for example, I would like to install "less", but how do I find it? | 11:33 |
| juiceme | "rpm -q --whatprovides less" does not work, and neither does "zypper search less" | 11:34 |
| juiceme | on DEB I would just use apt-cache, like "apt-cache search less | grep pager" | 11:36 |
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| sledges | rpm -qf /usr/bin/less | 11:48 |
| sledges | but only for installed packages | 11:48 |
| sledges | juiceme, ^ | 11:48 |
| tachikoma | according to the zypper man page, -d is needed to also search summary and descriptions of packages | 11:49 |
| juiceme | okay... any way to do a _full_ search on anything not installed yet? | 11:49 |
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| juiceme | it's possible I need to install some repos first? | 11:50 |
| tachikoma | juiceme: haven't seen one, you mean search the package file list? | 11:50 |
| tachikoma | juiceme: sorry, no idea about what packages are available, I booted my nemo yesterday the first time | 11:53 |
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| juiceme | :) | 11:53 |
| sledges | i never knew apt-cache search less find among non-installed | 11:54 |
| sledges | the only thing that worked was apt-file search /usr/bin/less | 11:54 |
| sledges | but probably I confuse filename vs feature ;P | 11:55 |
| juiceme | it might depend on the version of apt, maybe? | 11:55 |
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| sledges | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman_Rosetta | 11:55 |
| juiceme | but what it does, it searches all packages, installed and not installed | 11:55 |
| sledges | look for apt-file | 11:55 |
| sledges | in general, a golden link that is | 11:56 |
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| tachikoma | ok, one more issue - i can only connect to open wlan networks, unencrypted ones. | 12:28 |
| tachikoma | And it seems to just connect to the next best open one, I am unable to actively select one | 12:28 |
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| Merbot` | phaeron lbt sage SR#303 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/303 | 12:33 |
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| Merbot` | phaeron lbt sage SR#303 Rejected promotion request | 12:41 |
| sledges | I can connect to a WEP network here no problem | 12:50 |
| sledges | with N9 | 12:50 |
| sledges | you should be able to select where you want to connect via settings-connections-wifi... | 12:50 |
| sledges | but I noticed that the behaviour of that one is a bit flaky indeed | 12:50 |
| sledges | in any case, a new setting app is coming, isn't it w00t? | 12:51 |
| sledges | oh, he's not in, must be busy Jolling ;) | 12:51 |
| tachikoma | ah, nice to know | 13:15 |
| tachikoma | yes, i see all networks in the settings=connection-wifi ui, but i can tap them all i want, nothing happening | 13:15 |
| sledges | ok | 13:18 |
| tachikoma | i just tried systemctl restart connman.service to see if that helps | 13:18 |
| sledges | but you can always connect to your favourite AP via connman test ;) | 13:19 |
| sledges | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Minimal/Networking | 13:20 |
| tachikoma | thanks for the link | 13:22 |
| sledges | yw | 13:22 |
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| faenil | o/ | 13:30 |
| faenil | tachikoma, solved the issue? | 13:30 |
| tachikoma | faenil: not yet, still have to work, just when waiting for something i can continue on the phone ;) | 13:31 |
| tachikoma | also no network access to it yet, would like to do all the configs via ssh | 13:31 |
| faenil | why is it so hard getting nemo on n900? I didn't know there were such problems | 13:32 |
| faenil | sledges, are those new problems? | 13:32 |
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| tachikoma | faenil: I'll later tonight file bugreports for the issues i encounter | 13:35 |
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| sledges | faenil, I haven't got an N900 :( | 13:37 |
| faenil | oh | 13:37 |
| sledges | over past many months there hasn't been much interest/testing on n900, until recently however ;) people want change! | 13:41 |
| sledges | thanks to PR and nsuffys' awesome n900 nemo videos | 13:41 |
| cxl000n7 | tachikoma zypper se will search the refreshed repos. Also try search in OBS. You need mer tool repo for less | 13:42 |
| tachikoma | cxl000n7: i see | 13:42 |
| sledges | juiceme, ^ | 13:43 |
| tachikoma | actually, i only found nemo via jolla ;) | 13:43 |
| * sledges was about to write "..and thanks to jolla" ;) | 13:43 | |
| tachikoma | :) | 13:43 |
| sledges | some movement around nemo has been around TMO as well recently | 13:43 |
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| ajalkane | Trying to update my nemo installation from last year. | 15:42 |
| ajalkane | I thought that since I already have the dual boot, It'd be enough to copy the rootfs with this command: sudo tar --numeric-owner -xf nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950-*.tar.bz2 -C /media/Alt_OS/ | 15:42 |
| ajalkane | But when I booted to Nemo it seems I have still the old version. Any idea what could be wrong? | 15:43 |
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| sledges | did you do sync | 15:46 |
| sledges | after extracting | 15:46 |
| ajalkane | No but I think I see what's heppning... I got /media/Alt_OS and /media/Alt_OS_ | 15:46 |
| sledges | ;) | 15:46 |
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| ajalkane | apparently Alt_OS_ is the one automounted | 15:47 |
| ajalkane | So I'll just extract there | 15:47 |
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| ajalkane | But what is this sync you mentioned? | 15:47 |
| ajalkane | Or is sync automatically done when doing umount? | 15:49 |
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| ajalkane | ... as other people are going to have drinks to bar and having a decadent life, I'm using my friday installing Nemo mobile. Hah, I'm winning in life! | 15:53 |
| * sledges is straight edge :) | 15:55 | |
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| sledges | so no need for a bar on friday night :) | 15:57 |
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| faenil | ajalkane, winning! | 15:59 |
| ajalkane | sledges: good for you, winning every day then | 15:59 |
| ajalkane | faenil: \o/ for winning | 15:59 |
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| ajalkane | So I'm just untarring over the previous rootfs? Tar says "tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors | 16:01 |
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| ajalkane | But it's I guess due to stuff like this "tar: ./var/run: Cannot open: File exists". Not a problem I gather? | 16:01 |
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| sledges | aja | 16:06 |
| sledges | lkane :) | 16:06 |
| faenil | I rm -r everything before untarring new image :) | 16:06 |
| sledges | you should wipe what's existing | 16:06 |
| * sledges what he said ^ ;) | 16:06 | |
| faenil | |o| | 16:06 |
| faenil | looks like star wars ship | 16:06 |
| sledges | ↑o↑ | 16:06 |
| faenil | |o| ------> |o| | 16:06 |
| faenil | pew pew | 16:07 |
| sledges | galaga | 16:07 |
| faenil | /o| | 16:07 |
| faenil | gotcha sledges! | 16:07 |
| faenil | pew pew | 16:07 |
| ajalkane | Aye, will do that then | 16:07 |
| * sledges there's a video shots of people sitting in a cinema theatre, and changing seats making it look like a galaga game | 16:12 | |
| sledges | can't find it now. I don't think i've seen it on the internet :D it was in a bar ;P ;D | 16:13 |
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| sledges | a small restaurant, called "Atomic Burger" | 16:13 |
| dm8tbr | that sounds tempting! | 16:17 |
| sledges | is the awesomest place ever, wait | 16:18 |
| * sledges uploading the picture | 16:18 | |
| * dm8tbr hopes it comes with awesome sauce | 16:19 | |
| sledges | well, you've just literraly asked for one more picture | 16:19 |
| sledges | or | 16:19 |
| sledges | http://atomicburger.co.uk/fallout-challenge | 16:20 |
| sledges | http://atomicburger.co.uk/kahuna/resources/12-w800h800.png | 16:20 |
| sledges | http://atomicburger.co.uk/kahuna/resources/11-w800h800.png | 16:21 |
| sledges | and they have video projection with 50s-80s sci fi movie trailers and crazy videos like galaga with people :) | 16:21 |
| sledges | so, whoever comes to visit me in Bristol - I'll take you there! :D | 16:22 |
| dm8tbr | coool | 16:22 |
| ajalkane | I just get first the good old blue Nemo boot background, and then the familiar psychedelic yellow-bluish horror picture - nothing else. So I guess my update don't work. | 16:22 |
| sledges | ajalkane, reboot one or two times | 16:23 |
| ajalkane | Alright | 16:23 |
| dm8tbr | sledges: I like the challenge, I'll have to visit you some time and try it | 16:23 |
| sledges | do you like spicy? | 16:23 |
| dm8tbr | I made it 2/3 through the jack the rooster death burger | 16:23 |
| dm8tbr | I spice up my food with ground up naga morichi | 16:24 |
| sledges | I was to answer any possible phrase of yours "well then you don't know what spicy is" | 16:24 |
| sledges | but now I'm starting to reconsider... | 16:24 |
| ajalkane | Ah thanks... another reboot and the glory of new Nemo unleashed itself | 16:24 |
| sledges | ajalkane, \\o// | 16:25 |
| dm8tbr | after the death burger my stomach complained for 2 days straight ;) | 16:25 |
| sledges | good it didn't live up for the name at least :) | 16:26 |
| dm8tbr | I would have eaten the whole burger, but then I would still have had to finish the fries to complete the challenge | 16:26 |
| dm8tbr | so I decided to spare my stomach a bit | 16:26 |
| faenil | :D | 16:26 |
| dm8tbr | the burger did taste good though | 16:27 |
| dm8tbr | the sauce was made fresh, probably from naga morichi and tomato | 16:27 |
| dm8tbr | the fries were nasty, very salty and chili powdered | 16:27 |
| faenil | you should have finished the burger :D | 16:29 |
| sledges | mate signing a legal waiver two days ago: http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii567/sledgas/b513feb3-efb9-45d8-b0c8-5db19b3fc075_zpsd68354a3.jpg | 16:32 |
| sledges | he failed: http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii567/sledgas/f00d/dead_sad_smiley_zpsd0d7e0f1.jpg | 16:33 |
| sledges | it was our birthday present for him :D | 16:34 |
| sledges | what did you have as a drink dm8tbr ? | 16:34 |
| ajalkane | Is there some good resource on porting Harmattan app to Nemo? | 16:35 |
| dm8tbr | sledges: pint of lager | 16:35 |
| sledges | fair enough :) | 16:35 |
| dm8tbr | doesn't help. at. all. | 16:36 |
| dm8tbr | they don't allow stronger alcohol or milk during and after the challenge | 16:36 |
| sledges | you know what does? | 16:36 |
| sledges | ahhhh | 16:36 |
| sledges | here they allowed milkshakes | 16:36 |
| sledges | since they were in the menu | 16:36 |
| dm8tbr | bah, sissies | 16:37 |
| sledges | butterscotch thick - was the way to go for him | 16:37 |
| sledges | he still failed ;P | 16:37 |
| dm8tbr | I wonder if their sauce is just some blair monstrosity or something fresh made | 16:37 |
| dm8tbr | sledges: are you coming over for devaamo2013? | 16:38 |
| sledges | :D | 16:38 |
| sledges | nopes :{ | 16:38 |
| dm8tbr | too bad, would have treated you to a death burger | 16:38 |
| sledges | :D | 16:39 |
| sledges | I'd rather go for a quantity challenge than a spicyness ;) | 16:39 |
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| ajalkane | Oh damn... would require digging into RPM packaging and figuring out what's Nemo's method of launching daemons. Better to leave into another friday winning night. | 16:51 |
| dm8tbr | systemd? | 16:51 |
| sledges | nemo-specific daemons will be launched by systemd, yes dm8tbr, and listed under /usr/lib/systemd/user/nemo-mobile-session.target.wants/ | 16:52 |
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| ajalkane | Ah... I gather I better not have too much winning today lest I get too high an opinion of my winningness. Better leave this systemd stuff to another friday. | 16:58 |
| ajalkane | Anyway, the new Nemo mobile seems great. Great progress indeed. | 16:58 |
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| sledges | cheers mate! I can't wait to embed it into a fridge on my part (on pandaboard e.g.) | 17:09 |
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| sledges | and have it used by housemates to browse/check emails/play angry birds while cooking's in progress :) | 17:15 |
| sledges | need to figure out multi user profiles though | 17:15 |
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