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Sage_dm8tbr: ping, how did your nexus 4 experiment go btw? Did you manage to get it booting mer already?06:56
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dm8tbrSage_: not yet. Had to send it in for repair after the screen shattered...06:59
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dm8tbrmy n950 slodiers on after many a drop without problems...07:04
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Sage_:)07:14
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rcghey faenil :)07:49
faenilrcg, hey :)07:49
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davide_sledges_: Sage_12:59
davide_here I am again! :(12:59
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Sage_davide_: hello13:03
davide_Hi guys! now, thanks to your help now Xorg starts at boot! But the system now is much more unstable...among various problem that I'm trying to inspect there is a big issue:13:06
davide_lipstick doesn't start at boot with X and if I try to start it manually the screen blink  a lot, sometimes lopstick doesn't start, and always lead to an out of memory error...13:06
davide_so: lipstick must start at boot?13:06
davide_and there's already some troubles with out of memory error?13:07
davide_ps: I think that the out of memory is caused by the kernel because with "free" I don't see huge use of memory by user processes...13:09
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Merbot`phaeron lbt sage SR#300 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/30013:24
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Merbot`phaeron lbt sage SR#300 Accepted promotion request13:32
Sage_davide_: provide journalctl -b output on the system so we can see what is going on during bootup13:33
Sage_I'm suspecting that mcompositor or sysuid is causing the problems13:33
Sage_ssu re -r latest; ssu fl testing; zypper ref; zypper dup; ssu re -r next; ssu fl devel; zypper ref; zypper up13:35
Sage_Installation of nspr-4.9.2-1.1.8 failed:13:35
Sage_(with --nodeps --force) Error: Subprocess failed. Error: RPM failed: error: /var/cache/zypp/packages/mer-core/i586/nspr-4.9.2-1.1.8.i586.rpm: Header SHA1 digest: BAD13:35
Sage_error: /var/cache/zypp/packages/mer-core/i586/nspr-4.9.2-1.1.8.i586.rpm cannot be installed13:35
Sage_ok, got reproduce now while downgrading to old release or so.13:35
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sledges_I've had many OOM errors when worked with pandaboard. They went away when I provided proper GLES/EGL hw acceleration for lipstick and the family13:39
sledges_but for a stripped-down version of nemo, which is more stable memory-wise, but might crash because it's incomplete (I used it to see apps running and generic rudimentary navigation - so good for app development and a small demo, and ideal to continue working on proper acceleration), here's ks:13:40
sledges_carefully examine it davide_, https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/Omap4/Pandaboard/mer-minimal-lipstick-pandaboard-armv7hl.ks13:41
sledges_it's a minimal nemo image so to say13:41
sledges_davide_, one way or another, you are facing Hardware Adaptation phase for your board ;)13:41
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davide_Sage_: http://pastebin.com/pAgxmvk013:52
Sage_davide_: you don't have 3d there right?13:53
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Sage_davide_: sed -i 's/mcompositor.service //g' /usr/lib/systemd/user/lipstick.service13:54
Sage_call that as root and then try rebooting13:54
davide_Sage_: no...I don't have 3D... now rebooting...13:54
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Sage_davide_: ok, mcompositor requires 3d so that most definitely fails and currently lipstick has hard dependency to that and while mcompositor fails lipstick is stopped13:59
Sage_that cmdline should drop that dependency and in theory lipstick should start13:59
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davide_Sage_: and this is exaclty what's happen and I can see it from "ps"...but the screen remains black... there's a lipstick's log somewhere?14:03
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Sage_davide_: is lipstick process running?14:04
Sage_as based on previous log it got killed14:04
Sage_davide_: if you do "su nemo; export DISPLAY=:0; lipstick" you see it?14:04
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davide_Sage_: I can see that now lipstick (and also mcompositor) are running at startup.. but I've got always a black screen and the board running out of memory...14:09
davide_checkin' /proc/meminfo I can see that cachedmemory grow up...maybe some process is trying to load a file many times and this consume all the memory...14:10
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panda84kdeSage_: Do I understand it right if I say that Nemo is made up of lipstick and mcompositor and other components, and that mcompositor requires OpenGL ES acceleration?14:17
Sage_panda84kde: mcompositor is the window manager type of thing that requires opengl es yes.14:18
norayram I right than nemo is usually used on n9? and it does not supported well on n900? I am asking because I always have power saving problems on n900, need to remember to turn it off, and sometimes even it doesn't help.14:19
sledgesdavide_, remove contactsd symlink from /usr/lib/systemd/user/nemo-mobile-session.target.wants/14:19
sledgesiirc it is eating up memory, when on a non-accelerated system14:19
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sledgeswhen you watch top before the system goes oom, you see xorg eating up mem, but once I have stripped down nemo to basics (I actually built nemo up to lipstick and just a few apps, no daemons/services), it did not go oom14:27
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sledges^ *I actually built from mer-qmlviewer bare ks up to nemo, containing just lipstick etc14:28
sledgesthe .ks is provided above (the huge amount of packages is because of the @mer graphics pattern bug, should not be important at this point - im just giving an explanation)14:29
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davide_sledges: even without contactsd symlink the system goes oom. but don't look like Xorg is using so much memory... your minimal-lipstick .ks file can be used also for armv7l? home-plundstr-boot-study repo semms only for armv7hl and x86...14:34
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sledgesthat xorg launch helper should be available from elsewhere14:39
sledgesfeel free to comment out that plundstr14:39
sledgesdavide_, ^14:39
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faenilhola14:40
plundstrxorg-launch-helper comes form mer. Git http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/xorg-launch-helper.git;a=summary14:44
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sledgesahoj faenil :)14:54
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sledgesthanks plundstr, I will remove that old repo of yours off a .ks, sorry for highlighting your nick lol but I can't remember why I used it months ago (couldn't find it around mer repos or smthng)14:55
plundstrsledges: np14:55
sledgesdavide_, needless to say, you'll need to remove nemo-devel-hw-ti-omap4-pandaboard from repos, as your nitrogen board is imx6 based15:00
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faenilsledges, yo15:00
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davide_sledges: clear thank you! now I'm trying to understand if the lack of 3D in my gpu driver leads to a critical problem with mcompositor! For now thank you so much and thank you too Sage!15:06
sledgesdon't forget davide_ that 3D implies -2D-/3D acceleration (provided by opengl es ) - so as I gather you already have your gpu driver in place. ensure it provides its own /usr/lib/*GL* files, and you are not lost among symlinks or them being overwritten15:14
sledgesto see which file belongs to which package, do rpm -qf path_to_file15:14
sledgesor if you don't have your driver adaptation on place yet, we are facing a question - can nemo run on an arm device without hardware accelerated rendering (vesa/fbdev/..?) :)15:21
Sagedavide_: also youmight want to remove /usr/lib/systemd/user/meegotouch-systemui.service to save some memory to get home up15:21
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davide_sledges: Sage: since I've got only the 2D part of the driver, "can nemo run on an arm device without hardware accelerated rendering?" maybe is the key point...15:30
sledgesdavide_, explain "I've got only the 2D part of the driver"15:33
sledgeshave you run tests to prove that part works?15:33
sledgesit's called glestest15:33
sledgesif that is accelerated, mcompositor should be happy enough IMHO15:33
sledgesbest if tried on clean .ks (mer-qmlviewer)15:34
sledgeswith glestest in place15:34
sledgesis the package called mer-gfx-tools ?15:34
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sledgesthen run glestest, observe FPS, then move /usr/lib/*GL* files somewhere else, re-run glestest, see if there's any difference in FPS15:35
davide_sledges: compiling gpu driver from source, I had problems with 3D part of the sources...I was able to build only the 2D part of the sources...the 3D cannot work because I don't have the 3D driver...15:39
sledgesnp, glestest is a 2D test15:39
sledgesso if glestest works, you are sure the acceleration stack is in place15:40
* sledges rarely come across separate 2d/3d drivers these days though..15:40
panda84kdesledges: weird name for a 2D test. It's like calling a kernel image "initrd".15:41
sledgesas they all compile/boil down to /usr/lib/*GL* stuff, also bits to kernel modules, daemons if needed (think PVR SGX driver)15:42
sledgesbut not 2d/3d differentiated. don't mix up - vpu is not 2D, is a hardware decoder for videos ;)15:42
sledgesgles - is 2d/3d. if gl extensions are in place, shaders should be able to do acceld 2D, and other extensions should provide 3d transforms (the test suite is called glmark in that case)15:43
sledgesso again, if 2d is accelerated, 3d most probably is as well15:43
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sledgesa gpu driver should provide bindings to hardware chip doing the cool fast graphics, and expose them to the userland via GLESv2 etc libs, which mcompositor then picks up15:47
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davide_sledges: I'll read something about what you said (I have some doubt)...in the meanwhile glestest gives the following error: http://pastebin.com/aMeVrPKf16:11
davide_maybe I forgot to overwrite mer's libEGL with the one provided with the gpu sources...16:12
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sledgesyou need to ensure all *GL* files are very neatly overwritten and symlinked as before16:13
sledgesthe worst case scenario, for example: mer has libEGL.so.x.0 -> libEGL.so.x.0.016:15
sledgesyou have only: libEGL.so.x.1 -> libEGL.so.x.1.016:16
sledgesend result after copy - two libEGL versions on the system16:16
sledgeseven worse:16:16
sledgesif you do rm libEGL.so.x.0.0 beforehand16:16
sledgesall mer stuff that is linked explicitly to libEGL.so.x.0 or libEGL.so.x.0.0 will now be broken16:17
sledgeseven if you have your own libEGL.so.x.1* stuff in place16:17
sledgessame applies to GLESv1, v2 etc16:17
panda84kdesledges: I think Vivante Core has a deep distinction between 2D and 3D core: http://www.vivantecorp.com/index.php/en/media-article/news/120-vivante-corporation-dynamic-gui-composition-engine-lowers-gpu-power-consumption-up-to-5x16:17
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panda84kdeSince 85% of device usage is for non-3D applications, the ideal power savings turns off the 3D engine and uses the specialized 2D/Composition engine to do the heavy lifting for display tasks16:18
sledgespanda84kde, everyone can call names, what 2d, 3d is together or not. but what we are working with - is a bunch of files across a linux rootfs, which need to be in place and need to be linked against correctly16:18
sledgesnone of those files have 2D or 3D in their file names.16:19
sledgesif vivante chooses to disable 3D for pm, or it's hard to compile the driver, glestest should still work, as it tests only basic accelerated blitting/buffering features16:20
panda84kdesledges: interesting16:20
sledgesprovided that acceleration stack shared libraries have been adapted to the hardware16:20
sledgesthat's why glestest does not go beyond 2d opertions, probably having in mind exactly what you just said16:20
sledges;)16:20
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rsequeirHi there !18:07
rsequeirgot Nemo working on the Pandaboard (thansk lbt for your help)18:07
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rsequeirnow would like to run some shell commands through serial18:08
rsequeirwhen attempting to write on shell, got the message:18:08
rsequeir"localhost login:"18:08
rsequeirdoes anybody know this login ?18:09
Sagenemo/nemo18:11
Sageor root/nemo18:11
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lpotterSage: ping still here?20:12
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niqtis possible run nemomobile application in sailfish emulator?21:41
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