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| dm8tbr | moaning | 08:05 |
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| GentSir | dm8tbr, do you intentionally misspell "morning"? | 08:20 |
| dm8tbr | why, yes, it seems I do | 08:21 |
| GentSir | Didn't know if it was a translation error or on purpose | 08:21 |
| dm8tbr | GentSir: are you familiar with the works of the troupe called monty python? | 08:22 |
| GentSir | dm8tbr, very little of it | 08:22 |
| sledges | erm, that was Allo Allo dm8tbr tbh ;) | 08:23 |
| sledges | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGNVU5ZjlgA | 08:23 |
| GentSir | If you want me to be perfectly honest, I'm one of those guys that prefers Asimov to Prachett | 08:23 |
| dm8tbr | sledges: I know, but it's the same type of humor | 08:24 |
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| dm8tbr | not many people seem to know allo allo these days :( | 08:24 |
| GentSir | I'm just not a big fan of comedy and humor :/ | 08:25 |
| sledges | that's a sad statement GentSir :) | 08:25 |
| GentSir | sledges, I like plenty of other good stuff | 08:26 |
| GentSir | I've read massive amounts of "classic" sci fi | 08:27 |
| sledges | well, anything that makes you happy GentSir :) | 08:27 |
| GentSir | Yes, to each their own | 08:27 |
| * dm8tbr locates a decentralized backup of allo allo. evening entertainment for the near future secured. <3 | 08:27 | |
| sledges | :D our local panto group did a very fine selection of allo allo, I liked some of their jokes even more lol | 08:28 |
| GentSir | I've been working on going through Code Academy, whittling down my college list, trying to figure out what I want to do after community college this fall | 08:28 |
| GentSir | So my Sailfish app got thrown into my dead project list for now | 08:28 |
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| sledges | that's anothe sad news GentSir | 08:29 |
| GentSir | It's better to improve my programming skills first, so I don't unleash something truly awful at the community :) | 08:29 |
| sledges | :) sounds fair | 08:30 |
| GentSir | Trust me, you don't want to see what I've done with Perl in my teenage years | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | "i want to see your perl code": nobody, ever | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:31 |
| dm8tbr | :D | 08:32 |
| GentSir | Here's something really special: http://bpaste.net/show/94801/ | 08:32 |
| GentSir | I think I was 14 when I wrote that | 08:32 |
| GentSir | Sorry for making your brains explode :( | 08:43 |
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| faenil | o/ | 09:43 |
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| cybette | \o | 09:46 |
| dm8tbr | ~o~ | 09:47 |
| faenil | ahahha | 09:48 |
| dm8tbr | ,o' | 09:51 |
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| dm8tbr | 'o, | 09:51 |
| faenil | xD | 09:51 |
| dm8tbr | D.I.S.C.O! | 09:51 |
| faenil | dm8tbr, you know man I spent the entire afternoon yesterday trying to get ubiboot to work...no success :( | 09:51 |
| dm8tbr | sucks | 09:51 |
| * dm8tbr is making reasonable progress with setting the stage for his Nexus 4 hacking | 09:52 | |
| faenil | I think there's some incompatibility with my n950's hw version or something like that | 09:52 |
| faenil | cool :) | 09:52 |
| dm8tbr | ok, so unsurprisingly the kernel doesn't seem to boot... | 10:00 |
| faenil | eheh | 10:00 |
| dm8tbr | oh well, I'll look at that later. Now on to some other hackery | 10:00 |
| faenil | dm8tbr, do you have a min to check this? http://pastebin.com/aTaWwLeq | 10:03 |
| * dm8tbr checks | 10:04 | |
| faenil | thanks :) | 10:04 |
| faenil | that's all it says...then screen stays black | 10:05 |
| dm8tbr | 361, 362 | 10:05 |
| dm8tbr | without diving into things, I'd say mtd5 is not formatted as UBIFS | 10:06 |
| faenil | it doesn't have to, does it? it's not used | 10:06 |
| faenil | (not in ubiboot-02) | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | .. mtd? | 10:07 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, trying to get ubiboot to work on n950 :/ | 10:07 |
| faenil | it boots Nemo but it doesn't boot harm/nitdroid | 10:07 |
| dm8tbr | faenil: without analyzing the boot process, no idea | 10:08 |
| faenil | dm8tbr, okay, thanks anyway ;) | 10:09 |
| dm8tbr | faenil: I'd "set -x" in the initramfs script and catch output | 10:10 |
| dm8tbr | that would tell you much more than the kernel, which doesn't tell us much aside from a mounted ext4 fs and some mtd/ubifs stunts | 10:10 |
| faenil | dm8tbr, I have a cpio which has ubiboot's scripts | 10:14 |
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| rikanee | faenil: Harmattan doesn't like ubiboot | 10:16 |
| faenil | rikanee, eh :/ | 10:16 |
| rikanee | actually, it's related to the Harmattan kernel itself | 10:16 |
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| rikanee | if you boot Harmattan with Nemo kernel, it boots just fine predictably | 10:16 |
| rikanee | but then vibration doesn't work | 10:16 |
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| faenil | I'm using open kernel with L2 patch | 10:17 |
| faenil | which is what everyone uses :/ | 10:17 |
| rikanee | That boots for you? Using a kernel with L2 patch gives me a reboot after a few seconds on the Nokia pulsing logo. | 10:17 |
| faenil | it booted with that before installing ubiboot | 10:18 |
| rikanee | I can't boot Harmattan using anything BUT the Openmode kernel, minus L2fix. | 10:19 |
| faenil | mm, I see | 10:19 |
| faenil | on n950? | 10:19 |
| rikanee | RM-696/N9. | 10:20 |
| faenil | ok | 10:20 |
| rikanee | but it's been a seriously mixed bag on any device, tbh | 10:20 |
| faenil | dm8tbr, can you elaborate more on that? | 10:20 |
| faenil | rikanee, yeah... | 10:20 |
| rikanee | Some kernels don't work, some kernels do, on certain N9 revisions. | 10:20 |
| faenil | yeah... | 10:20 |
| rikanee | Bizarre shit, this never happened across revisions on the N900 | 10:21 |
| dm8tbr | faenil: what? | 10:21 |
| faenil | dm8tbr, which is the initramfs script in my case? can't find it | 10:21 |
| dm8tbr | 'init' in initramfs | 10:21 |
| faenil | but which one is initramfs | 10:22 |
| faenil | I have some preinits in ubiboot | 10:22 |
| rikanee | faenil: if you're on ubiboot-02, do note that the initramfs is stuck to the kernel and not in the cpio archive | 10:24 |
| dm8tbr | also if it successfully hands over to the init process of the target, then this won't help | 10:24 |
| dm8tbr | best bet would be a serial console ofc | 10:25 |
| faenil | rikanee, ok thanks for pointing that out...then how do I set -x .. | 10:25 |
| faenil | dm8tbr, yeah | 10:25 |
| faenil | I think I'm buying the adaptor :) | 10:25 |
| rikanee | you'll have to rebuild the entire kernel+ramdisk | 10:25 |
| rikanee | Bug juiceme about it. | 10:25 |
| rikanee | Alternatively, you can connect USB to start it, and launch commands from telnet | 10:26 |
| faenil | already pinged him for the whole day yesterday :D he didn't answer so he's probably away, don't want to bother him too much :D | 10:26 |
| faenil | yea I'm currently in maintenance mode via USB | 10:26 |
| faenil | what can I try? | 10:27 |
| rikanee | the kexec lines from the select-os-animated scripts? | 10:27 |
| faenil | dm8tbr, I don't know if it reaches init... | 10:27 |
| faenil | alright let's see | 10:27 |
| dm8tbr | pulsing nokia logo? | 10:27 |
| faenil | dm8tbr, nope | 10:28 |
| dm8tbr | no idea then | 10:28 |
| rikanee | So, before the Nokia logo? | 10:28 |
| faenil | when I select the OS the screen switches off and on | 10:28 |
| faenil | and stays black | 10:28 |
| rikanee | Add 'touch /bootstate.file' to the top of preinit | 10:28 |
| faenil | is that a special log file? | 10:28 |
| rikanee | Nope, just a flag. | 10:29 |
| faenil | oh ok ;) | 10:29 |
| faenil | trying kexec atm | 10:29 |
| rikanee | check to see if it exists after it reboots/hangs if it even got to finish kexec-ing. | 10:29 |
| faenil | well kexec returns "successful" | 10:29 |
| rikanee | because without a serial console, there really is no way in hell to debug this shit | 10:29 |
| * dm8tbr knows why he loves UART for embedded hacking... | 10:30 | |
| faenil | :) I've got to dig into that world | 10:30 |
| rikanee | Booting into Harmattan is such an almighty pain that I'm thinking of porting over Pali's u-boot to N9/50. | 10:30 |
| rikanee | Although I do have my doubts as to where the real fault in the boot chain is. | 10:32 |
| rikanee | As far as I've experienced, watchdogs on the TWL simply don't like kexec. | 10:32 |
| rikanee | I can always get to the Nokia logo, but not past it. | 10:32 |
| faenil | I'd like to get to Nokia's log at least xD | 10:33 |
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| faenil | rikanee, no files created, it doesn't reach preinit_harmattan | 10:40 |
| faenil | rikanee, though it writes kexec successful, so it gets inside | 10:42 |
| faenil | eval "kexec -l --type=zImage --command-line=$F_COMMAND_LINE $BOOTKERNEL" | 10:42 |
| faenil | ret=$? | 10:42 |
| faenil | if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then | 10:42 |
| faenil | logger "kexec_load() successful" | 10:42 |
| faenil | exit 0 | 10:42 |
| faenil | else | 10:42 |
| rikanee | faenil: well, that means that the kernel crashed after kexec | 10:42 |
| faenil | shouldn't it reboot the phone in that case? | 10:43 |
| faenil | anyway bbl thanks for helping out rikanee | 10:48 |
| faenil | and dm8tbr :) | 10:48 |
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| neochapay | hi | 11:00 |
| neochapay | where i can get image of nemomobile for armv7l arch | 11:00 |
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| neochapay | hm...where latest pandaboard image ? | 11:26 |
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| faenil | back :) | 12:10 |
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| rcg | wb faenil :) | 12:13 |
| faenil | :) | 12:13 |
| rcg | ;) | 12:13 |
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| rcg | faenil, how's it going? | 12:17 |
| faenil | rcg, trying to get ubiboot to work on my n950 :( can only boot to nemo so far... | 12:17 |
| rcg | hmm i see | 12:17 |
| rcg | did you give moslo a try? | 12:17 |
| rcg | it at least allows you to boot harmattan and nemo | 12:17 |
| rcg | or do you want to have more than two options? | 12:18 |
| faenil | rcg, I've always used moslo dualboot | 12:18 |
| faenil | but now I need nitdroid too for some personal hacking stuff | 12:18 |
| rcg | rgr | 12:18 |
| rcg | ah, i see | 12:18 |
| rcg | well, good luck then :) | 12:18 |
| rcg | not meant sarcastically ;) | 12:19 |
| faenil | Jonni has tripleboot working on his n950, and we can't understand what's wrong with mine xD | 12:19 |
| faenil | rcg, ahah :) | 12:19 |
| rcg | yeah, things like these can drive you nuts | 12:19 |
| rcg | most of the time it's a tiny tiny thing that's missing | 12:20 |
| faenil | yeah :/ and I don't know much about booting stuff, so that doesn't help | 12:20 |
| rcg | aye | 12:21 |
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| Morpog_PC | does nemo has/supports splash screens while loading an app like harmattan? | 12:48 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: same answer :D | 12:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | because the "invoker" here is the same as in sailfish | 12:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | they use the same | 12:59 |
| Morpog_PC | :-) | 12:59 |
| Morpog_PC | but nemo targets different hw like n9 and n99, so a slapshscreen would need to be in different resolutions and chosen by hw adaption? | 13:00 |
| Morpog_PC | n99 = n900 | 13:00 |
| Morpog_PC | N900 has 800x480 and N9 = 854x480 | 13:01 |
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| neochapay | where is pandaboard image ? | 15:16 |
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| juiceme | rikanee, I did not know you have problem booting Harmattan with l2fixed kernel? | 17:47 |
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| juiceme | there's something worth the try, actually. Jonni made some suggestions about fixing the watchdoggies and I do have an ubiboot version not generally released yet. | 17:51 |
| juiceme | If someone (faenil, rikanee) wants to try it I would be happy to see if it works better | 17:52 |
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| simonpb | hi folks! | 17:54 |
| Stskeeps | moo | 17:55 |
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| juiceme | hi :) | 17:55 |
| simonpb | i have a general question about the boot process for nemo. | 17:56 |
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| Stskeeps | sure | 17:56 |
| simonpb | which service/target file is nemo initiating first at boot and where do I configure it? | 17:56 |
| Stskeeps | user-session@.service , symlinked to by user-session@1000.service in /lib/systemd/system/ | 17:57 |
| simonpb | and how does the systemd know about this file? or is this default systemd file? | 17:59 |
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| Stskeeps | it's a systemd service like sshd | 18:01 |
| simonpb | so it is always default for user session? | 18:01 |
| Stskeeps | it's part of graphical.target.wants i believe | 18:02 |
| simonpb | ok, well I try to figure out what happens exactly when nemo is starting after extlinux found the conf file. | 18:05 |
| simonpb | so i can visualize this process. | 18:05 |
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| Stskeeps | 'systemctl' should have some nice tools for that | 18:05 |
| Stskeeps | and systemd-analyze | 18:05 |
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| simonpb | Stskeeps: sorry i got disconnected... | 18:16 |
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| Stskeeps | 'systemctl' should have some nice tools for that | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | and systemd-analyze | 18:16 |
| simonpb | ok, i read about systemd-analyze and trying to dive into it right now, thanks for the hint... | 18:17 |
| simonpb | I got some dependency problem installing systemd-analyze because of pyton-cairo not existing in the repo | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, you can probably ignore it | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | it may be used for plots or whichever | 18:20 |
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| simonpb | ok, i will try this... | 18:20 |
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| simonpb | got to go now, wife is going mad here :) thx and cu | 18:21 |
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| sdfanq | does anyone know why exposing this simple qabstractlistmodel to qml doesn't work on the emulator, but works on the desktop ? http://pastebin.com/vJ6ectJ7 | 18:25 |
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| sdfanq | I get ReferenceError: Can't find variable: title | 18:26 |
| sdfanq | at runtime | 18:26 |
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| MMN-o | Heyho, I seem to be unable to run 'lsusb' (unable to initialize libusb: -99) | 18:53 |
| MMN-o | this with a Nemo environment I installed today (rootfs from 20130218) | 18:55 |
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