* mvogt read that as 'docs-cathetering', which sounds horrible... | 00:02 | |
w00t | mvogt: ow. | 00:04 |
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w00t | so pop quiz | 00:04 |
w00t | why is it that, in europe, i end up working on australian time anyway? | 00:05 |
w00t | is my body clock just reverting to its natural state? | 00:05 |
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Macer | http://pastie.org/7443258 | 00:09 |
* Macer facepalm | 00:09 | |
w00t | status=11 means sigsegv | 00:09 |
w00t | everything UI-related is crashing for you | 00:10 |
Macer | yup | 00:10 |
Macer | over... and over.... and over............. and over.... heh | 00:10 |
Macer | Apr 11 03:10:26 localhost systemd[212]: meegotouch-systemui.service: main process exited, code=killed, status=11 | 00:11 |
Macer | Apr 11 03:10:26 localhost systemd[212]: Unit meegotouch-systemui.service entered failed state. | 00:11 |
Macer | and over :) | 00:11 |
w00t | i'd probably suggest hacking the user session to do nothing except launch X, install gdb, and try start e.g. mcompositor by hand under gdb, and see if you can get any useful stacktrace out of it | 00:11 |
mvogt | w00t: special is in the US and he works on oz time also. must be a universal law | 00:16 |
w00t | haha | 00:16 |
Macer | w00t: where does it autostart the ui? | 00:19 |
Macer | Xorg keeps restarting on its own | 00:19 |
w00t | Macer: systemd user session - /usr/lib/systemd/user/ | 00:19 |
Macer | wow. now the thing died on me again | 00:20 |
Macer | why does xorg keep trying to restart itself?? | 00:23 |
Macer | yeah that sounds far outside teh puerview of my skillset heh | 00:26 |
Macer | is there a way to boot and use the hw qwerty and NOT use x at all? | 00:26 |
Macer | oh wow nice... now i have nothing starting up for Xorg :) | 00:28 |
Macer | can i install a different desktop? | 00:28 |
Macer | like fluxbox? | 00:28 |
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Macer | ok | 00:31 |
Macer | xorg is running | 00:31 |
Macer | i opened xterm in 0:0 | 00:32 |
Macer | the problem lies in the desktop it seems | 00:32 |
w00t | so now start it in gdb | 00:32 |
Macer | an nice | 00:33 |
Macer | i got lipstick to start | 00:33 |
Macer | so now i have a desktop | 00:33 |
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Macer | althoug i have to double click on icons lol | 00:34 |
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Macer | "/usr/bin/duicontrolpanel.launch" Failed to connect to remote themedaemon. Retrying in one second. | 00:37 |
Macer | heh | 00:37 |
Macer | wow maybe it would have been better to start out with a base mer and tried kde active heh | 00:38 |
Macer | but at least i know the problem lies in the ui somewhere | 00:39 |
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w00t | it doesn't necessarily | 00:41 |
w00t | until you get a backtrace, you have no clue what the problem is | 00:41 |
Macer | x works fine | 00:42 |
Macer | wonder if i can get kde active working on it lol | 00:42 |
w00t | that doesn't mean anything | 00:43 |
w00t | if the problem is somewhere inside qt (for instance), or the graphics drivers (which won't be getting used by x and an xterm), or window composition (which requires a running compositor), or.. or.. or.. | 00:43 |
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Macer | so like.. what do you want me to do? | 00:43 |
w00t | I've said gdb twice in the past 40 minutes | 00:44 |
w00t | I'm still waiting to hear anything back on that | 00:44 |
Macer | yeah i got that part.. but gdb what? :) | 00:44 |
w00t | " install gdb, and try start e.g. mcompositor by hand under gdb, and see if you can get any useful stacktrace out of it" | 00:44 |
w00t | I also told you *what* to gdb 40 minutes ago ;) | 00:44 |
Macer | oh. it works like a shell? | 00:44 |
w00t | haven't used it before? | 00:45 |
Macer | no | 00:45 |
w00t | okay | 00:45 |
w00t | so first things first, check how mcompositor is launched (/usr/lib/systemd/user/mcompositor.service probably, you want the Exec key I guess) | 00:45 |
w00t | make sure X11 is running | 00:46 |
w00t | then gdb /usr/bin/mcompositor | 00:46 |
w00t | it'll give you a (gdb) prompt | 00:46 |
w00t | tell me when you get there (or if you need help) | 00:46 |
Macer | Reading symbols from /usr/bin/mcompositor...Missing separate debuginfo for /usr/bin/mcompositor | 00:46 |
Macer | Try: zypper install -C "debuginfo(build-id)=39791c97bae707c55a14bef0e2329ba369f7ba9d" | 00:46 |
Macer | i'm at the prompt tho heh | 00:46 |
w00t | that means you may not get much (or any) information when it crashes, but we can do a simple runthrough to try it out first | 00:47 |
w00t | so, what did the Exec key in the service file say? | 00:47 |
Macer | in mcompositor.service? | 00:48 |
w00t | yeah | 00:48 |
Macer | http://pastie.org/7443416 | 00:48 |
w00t | that'll tell you what arguments it passes when it runs mcompositor (the window manager/compositor) automatically | 00:48 |
w00t | ExecStart | 00:49 |
w00t | I was close ;) | 00:49 |
Macer | ExecStart=/usr/bin/mcompositor -systemd | 00:49 |
w00t | so, at the gdb prompt: r -systemd | 00:49 |
w00t | (r is the command to run it, everything after that is arguments to pass to the process you're debugging) | 00:49 |
w00t | (short for 'run') | 00:49 |
Macer | mcompositor: cannot connect to X server | 00:50 |
w00t | d'oh | 00:50 |
Macer | heh | 00:50 |
w00t | exit out of gdb for a sec (q / quit) | 00:50 |
w00t | export DISPLAY=:0 | 00:50 |
w00t | rerun gdb, rerun the start command | 00:50 |
Macer | Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. | 00:51 |
Macer | 0x41623964 in KEGLGetDrawableParameters () from /usr/lib/libIMGegl.so | 00:51 |
Macer | there it is :) | 00:51 |
w00t | ookay | 00:51 |
* w00t wonders what libIMGegl is | 00:52 | |
w00t | rpm -qf /usr/lib/libIMGegl.so please | 00:52 |
Macer | probably something that you wouldn't need if you guys used weyland lol | 00:52 |
Macer | ti-omap3-sgx-1.4.268-1.2.Nemo.Adaptation.N9xx.armv7hl | 00:52 |
w00t | the 'egl' bit implies that we probably would, i'm guessing it's something related to graphics drivers, but i've never heard that particular name before | 00:53 |
w00t | ok | 00:53 |
w00t | at the gdb prompt, run 'bt full' (short for backtrace full) | 00:53 |
w00t | that may get us a little more information, though probably not too much | 00:53 |
Macer | http://pastie.org/7443443 | 00:54 |
w00t | k | 00:54 |
w00t | i wonder what simple GL tests we have | 00:55 |
w00t | Stskeeps or Sage would know | 00:55 |
Macer | er | 00:55 |
Macer | glestest maybe? | 00:55 |
w00t | Macer: didn't you say you were having problems with a scriptlet on upgrade of that package, actually? | 00:55 |
Macer | yes | 00:55 |
Macer | that's the on too ;) | 00:55 |
Macer | one | 00:55 |
Macer | although this time i jsut didn't see it because i used packages to do it | 00:55 |
w00t | so that's a bit suspect | 00:55 |
w00t | what was it reporting? do you recall? | 00:55 |
Macer | nothing much. just "error in scriptlet" | 00:56 |
w00t | there's usually output before that message | 00:56 |
Macer | is there a way to re-install the pkg? | 00:56 |
Macer | then i can give you the exact error? | 00:56 |
w00t | or after - i forget | 00:57 |
w00t | mm. there is, but i'm not sure it's safe with that package.. zypper install --reinstall pkgnamehere | 00:57 |
Macer | [root@localhost ~]# export DISPLAY=:0 | 00:57 |
Macer | [root@localhost ~]# glestest | 00:57 |
Macer | Segmentation fault | 00:57 |
w00t | it can't get much worse though, right? ;) | 00:57 |
Macer | Unknown option '--reinstall | 00:59 |
Macer | how about i just remove/re-add ;) | 00:59 |
w00t | hm. that was from memory, let me look at the manpage | 00:59 |
Macer | yeah.. no man pages on the n900 heh | 01:00 |
w00t | zypper in -f packagename | 01:00 |
w00t | sorry for the completely wrong information | 01:00 |
Macer | Job failed. See system journal and 'systemctl status' for details. | 01:01 |
Macer | warning: %post(ti-omap3-sgx-1.4.268-1.2.Nemo.Adaptation.N9xx.armv7hl) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 | 01:01 |
w00t | ok, system journal is journalctl | 01:02 |
w00t | so run that and see if there's anything interesting | 01:02 |
Macer | http://pastie.org/7443468 | 01:02 |
Macer | wtf? :) | 01:02 |
w00t | er, well. | 01:03 |
* w00t wonders | 01:03 | |
Macer | that was odd | 01:05 |
Macer | i just tried to reinstall while following the journal | 01:05 |
Macer | and it installed fine it seems | 01:05 |
w00t | possible race condition? try reinstall a few times and see what happens? | 01:05 |
Macer | Retrieving package ti-omap3-sgx-1.4.268-1.2.Nemo.Adaptation.N9xx.armv7hl (1/1), 577.5 KiB ( 3.2 MiB unpacked) | 01:06 |
Macer | Retrieving: ti-omap3-sgx-1.4.268-1.2.Nemo.Adaptation.N9xx.armv7hl.rpm ..................................................................[done (61.4 KiB/s)] | 01:06 |
Macer | Installing: ti-omap3-sgx-1.4.268-1.2.Nemo.Adaptation.N9xx ...........................................................................................[done] | 01:06 |
Macer | no error ? | 01:06 |
w00t | certainly looks that way | 01:06 |
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w00t | okay, try this (as root): systemctl restart user-session@1000.service | 01:07 |
w00t | that'll kill x, and try restart everything again | 01:07 |
w00t | oh, erm | 01:07 |
Macer | but | 01:07 |
w00t | if you had modified the user session files or whatever | 01:07 |
w00t | fix those first ;) | 01:07 |
Macer | i mved the user stuff | 01:07 |
Macer | heh | 01:07 |
Macer | yeah | 01:07 |
Macer | i just moved teh dir | 01:07 |
Macer | and made an empty user dir | 01:07 |
Macer | ok | 01:08 |
w00t | progress? | 01:09 |
Macer | Apr 11 04:09:20 localhost sysuid[838]: "/usr/bin/sysuid" Connection timeout when waiting for packet 5 Retrying. | 01:09 |
Macer | doh! | 01:09 |
Macer | forgot something | 01:09 |
Macer | Apr 11 04:10:16 localhost sysuid[838]: "/usr/bin/sysuid" Connection timeout when waiting for packet 5 Retrying. | 01:10 |
Macer | keep getting those | 01:10 |
Macer | :-/ | 01:10 |
w00t | ps aux | grep mthemedaemon | 01:11 |
Macer | nope | 01:11 |
Macer | that might be my mistake | 01:11 |
Macer | actually. now that the pkg installed correclty | 01:11 |
w00t | something in the user session isn't right then, mthemedaemon should be started quite early | 01:11 |
Macer | and i moved everything back.. let me reboot heh | 01:11 |
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w00t | k | 01:12 |
Macer | ok. that was different lol | 01:13 |
w00t | good different or bad different? | 01:13 |
Macer | bad lol | 01:13 |
Macer | there's somethign on the screen scrolling with the backlight off | 01:14 |
w00t | that'll probably be console output | 01:15 |
Macer | ok... | 01:15 |
w00t | there's a way to increase backlight via ssh I think | 01:15 |
Macer | no it's on heh | 01:15 |
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Macer | but i still just have a blank screen | 01:15 |
Macer | the backlight is on but the screen is black | 01:16 |
Macer | ohh ok | 01:17 |
Macer | i just manually ran lipstick | 01:17 |
Macer | as root | 01:17 |
Macer | and it started | 01:18 |
Macer | so maybe somewhere lipstick isn't being properly started? | 01:18 |
w00t | i'd be guessing problems from the user session tinkering | 01:19 |
w00t | take a look at journalctl again | 01:19 |
Macer | not from me ;) | 01:20 |
Macer | the user session is the original after update | 01:20 |
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w00t | take a look at journalctl, anyway | 01:20 |
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Macer | is there a way to output it to pastie.org or something? | 01:22 |
w00t | journalctl --no-pager > foo.log, maybe | 01:22 |
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Macer | ah well.. ihave to go ;) i'll continue more tomorrow | 01:25 |
Macer | sorry | 01:25 |
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Macer | but yeah. n900 sure needs quite a bit of work lol | 01:25 |
Macer | Jan 01 02:00:19 localhost ohmd[179]: GLIB WARNING ** GConf - Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon: | 01:26 |
w00t | i get the feeling that you're getting closer to the root causes at least | 01:27 |
Macer | Jan 01 02:00:26 localhost DSME[194]: IPHB: failed to open kernel connection '/dev/iphb' (No such file or directory) | 01:27 |
w00t | iphb is safe to ignore (more or less) | 01:27 |
Macer | yeah i'm just pasting the stuff that sticks out | 01:27 |
w00t | ohmd I'm not so sure about but i don't think that would cause this | 01:27 |
Macer | it's not a small log to look at | 01:28 |
w00t | can you upload it somewhere? | 01:28 |
Macer | and it's not like it has 3D cartoon characters jumping around lol | 01:28 |
Macer | yeah i will have to look at this later. i have to leave. heh | 01:30 |
Macer | i'll leave it hooked up if i get some time to mess with it some more later | 01:30 |
w00t | ok | 01:30 |
w00t | bye | 01:30 |
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ljp | grrr | 01:41 |
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w00t | ljp: sup | 01:44 |
ljp | 'works for me!' (tm) doesn't work for remote obs :( | 01:45 |
w00t | still connectionagent? | 01:45 |
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ljp | yes | 01:45 |
w00t | qt-devel is not being installed, which is meaning %qmake isn't expanded (as the rpm macro is provided by qt-devel) | 01:46 |
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w00t | why that's happening is a bit less certain for me.. | 01:47 |
w00t | your spec isn't updated | 01:47 |
w00t | (the buildrequires for qt aren't in it) | 01:48 |
w00t | two PkgConfigBR sections, the latter overwrites the former | 01:48 |
ljp | aard told me it would pick it up. ;/ | 01:48 |
ljp | oh. thats stupid | 01:48 |
w00t | http://qtl.me/LXp.txt | 01:48 |
w00t | Sage: know how you wanted something to do? how about warning on duplicate sections? ;) | 01:49 |
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ljp | yay! all but the _64 built | 02:18 |
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zchydem | morning | 05:10 |
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Sage | kaltsi: the %qmake and %qmake5 macros should be in qt5-qmake and qt-qmake packages | 06:32 |
Sage | not sure where those are atm. | 06:32 |
Sage | w00t: was pondering about that long time ago but not sure how to do it with .yaml really | 06:32 |
Stskeeps | Sage: qtchooser | 06:34 |
Sage | Stskeeps: well, I think that qmake package would be the right place | 06:37 |
Stskeeps | Sage: it isnt, due to coexistence conflict | 06:38 |
Stskeeps | we need both qmakes able to install | 06:39 |
Sage | sure | 06:39 |
Sage | but did I say they can't co-exist? | 06:39 |
Sage | with %qmake and %qmake5 macros I mean the /etc/rpm.macros/ or what ever that is | 06:39 |
Stskeeps | i looked into it and qtchooser is best place atm | 06:40 |
Sage | well, the thing with that is that then %qmake5 macro can exist without qt5-qmake | 06:40 |
Stskeeps | as its actually one providing 'qmake' | 06:40 |
Sage | imo that is wrong ;) | 06:42 |
Stskeeps | right, and we spent a lot of time getting it just right | 06:43 |
Stskeeps | it's transparent to user | 06:43 |
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Sage | Stskeeps: well even with having those in qt-qmake or qt5-qmake would be transparent to user | 06:46 |
Sage | Stskeeps: that would also mean that user would really need to have BuildRequires: qt5-qmake to get that %qmake5 macro as not it will be there even without qt5-qmake | 06:46 |
Stskeeps | Sage: it takes 2 days more each time we touch something in that area, we can fix later but not now. | 06:48 |
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Sage | Stskeeps: I though we are currently touching it :P | 06:51 |
Sage | but that is fine just saying my opinion ;) | 06:51 |
niqt | morning | 06:53 |
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iekku | Sage, i just watched family guy episodes last weekend, because of that and your comment " I though we are currently touching it :P | 07:09 |
iekku | " | 07:10 |
iekku | djjdasödgj | 07:10 |
Stskeeps | #nemomobile-w? | 07:10 |
the-boss` | Stskeeps: Error: "nemomobile-w?" is not a valid command. | 07:10 |
iekku | Sage, i have now this playing in my head: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo | 07:11 |
iekku | Sage, or this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOdUk04Z06s | 07:12 |
iekku | Stskeeps, no, not #w content | 07:12 |
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Sage | :P | 07:16 |
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phaeron | special: pong | 07:31 |
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w00t | Sage: but they need that build require anyway to actually run qmake, so impact isn't all that bad | 08:00 |
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Sage | w00t: exactly so why not be in the package that they anyway would require? :) | 08:07 |
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kaltsi | Sage: yes that's one place to put the macros in, I intended to do that at first, but noticed that there's this %qmake_install macro that is common to both | 08:45 |
kaltsi | Sage: dunno if it makes sense to make a new one %qmake5_install then too | 08:45 |
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Sage | kaltsi: ah, true hmmp. | 08:47 |
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fawz | Sage: I tried using your snowball ks file again yesterday and got a dependency error that it couldn't find two rpm packages in any of the listed repos, just thought I'd mention it | 08:52 |
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Sage | fawz: I haven't maintained that in a while as I don't have snowball anymore. What was the error can you pastebin it? | 08:55 |
Sage | fawz: I can try to make new .ks file for you that you can try at some point if you are willing to be a test guys for snowball :) | 08:55 |
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fawz | ah I see :) Im on a different comp now, I can pastebin it later if you like. I was just trying to adapt it to the tizen device again as Ive got its u-boot to compile now | 08:58 |
fawz | however I think I'll get a snowball in the future so then I'll definitely try to invest real time into getting mer/nemo going on that :) | 08:58 |
fawz | any specific reason you got rid of the snowball? (before I buy one :P ) | 08:59 |
Sage | fawz: I loaned it didn't buy one :) | 09:01 |
Sage | with snowball the bad thing is that there is usb hw bug that haven't been really fixed yet so I couldn't get any usb devices attached to the device. Used mouse over network from my laptop with synergy :) | 09:02 |
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fawz | hm that sounds worrying, thanks for the tip, I'll look into the state of that | 09:05 |
Sage | fawz: http://igloocommunity.org/support/Work-around_for_USB-Host_issue | 09:06 |
fawz | ah thanks | 09:07 |
fawz | unfortunate its caused by the hardware layout :( | 09:08 |
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Sage | fawz: any specific reason you want snowball? | 09:08 |
fawz | well, I looked at the pandaboard but mainly I just want something that's powerful enough (and has enough sensors/functionality) to be future proof | 09:10 |
fawz | any recommendations? :) | 09:10 |
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fawz | brb | 09:12 |
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Sage | fawz: well, personally I dont recommend snowball because of the usb. | 09:20 |
Sage | fawz: also snowball is very expensive. | 09:20 |
Sage | fawz: I would propose looking raspberry pi and cubox. But those don't have sensors and stuff I think. | 09:21 |
Sage | but it really depends what you are going to do with it | 09:22 |
Sage | rpi is so cheap that you don't loose much with it anyway even if you buy it :) | 09:22 |
fawz | Sage: yeah, I've ordered a rpi but I was looking for something with a bit more "oomph" :) basically something along the lines of a semi-modern mobile phone motherboard | 09:24 |
fawz | I guess I'll look some more into the alternatives | 09:24 |
fawz | the nice thing about the snowball was all the onboard sensors that would come in handy in robotics/uav applications | 09:25 |
kulve | combine RPi with https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11486 | 09:26 |
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fawz | kulve: oh, thanks :) looks promising | 09:31 |
kulve | that seems to have pull-ups already for i2c. RPi have them as well. I'm not sure if it's a problem to have them twice. Might not be | 09:33 |
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vgrade_ | fawz: http://veshnu.com/blogs/raspberrypi_mpu9150 | 09:40 |
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vgrade_ | is on my list of things to try for gesture recognition | 09:40 |
kulve | vgrade_: ah, I tried to find that comment from the logs but couldn't.. :) | 09:42 |
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kaltsi | sage: fyi, the qt version used can also be selected by exporting QT_SELECT=4 or 5 (instead of qt-default or command line options) | 10:07 |
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Macer | w00t: uhm | 12:18 |
Macer | i have devel active and uhm... | 12:18 |
Macer | settings still doesnt scroll :) | 12:18 |
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w00t | rpm -q libmeegotouch | 12:19 |
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Macer | oh. one sec | 12:27 |
Macer | 0.30.y | 12:28 |
Macer | oops | 12:28 |
Macer | 0.30.6-1.w | 12:28 |
Macer | 0.30.6-1.2 | 12:29 |
Macer | and the kb still stays open in the term | 12:29 |
Macer | with the qwerty open heh | 12:29 |
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Macer | nhm | 12:32 |
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Macer | something is off | 12:32 |
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Macer | Download (curl) error for 'http://releases.merproject.org/releases/latest/builds/armv7hl/packages/repodata/repomd.xml?credentials=your-configuration-is-broken-and-does-not-contain-credentials-scope': | 12:37 |
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Macer | wth? | 12:37 |
w00t | Macer: 0.30.7 is the fixed meegotouch version | 12:39 |
w00t | for the credentials stuff, aard might be able to help | 12:39 |
Macer | well now i have the error above :-/ | 12:39 |
Macer | ugh | 12:41 |
Macer | i can't do anything to fix it | 12:41 |
Macer | yeh there is no way i can run this on my new n900 that is on its way lol | 12:43 |
Macer | Apr 11 15:44:31 localhost sysuid[283]: bme_header_read: [fd=37]: read header: Bad file descriptor | 12:44 |
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aard | Macer: add credentials-scope=nemo to /etc/ssu/ssu.ini | 12:56 |
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w00t | ajalkane: ping | 14:08 |
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ajalkane | w00t: hey | 14:12 |
w00t | ajalkane: hello! just a heads up that i'm splitting nemo-qml-plugins into slightly less scary sized chunks, folderlistmodel will now live at https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugin-folderlistmodel | 14:13 |
ajalkane | w00t: that is very good news. What about the pending pull requests? | 14:14 |
ajalkane | Ie. is there need to do a new pull request to this new repo or will they get processed in the old one | 14:15 |
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w00t | ajalkane: so as I was trying to say ... :) | 14:26 |
w00t | ajalkane: hello! just a heads up that i'm splitting nemo-qml-plugins into slightly less scary sized chunks, folderlistmodel will now live at https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugin-folderlistmodel | 14:26 |
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* ajalkane scratches head. So new pull requests to new repo? | 14:28 | |
ajalkane | I mean the existing pull requests redone against the new repo and new pull request | 14:28 |
ajalkane | Nevermind. I seemed to gotten e-mails that clarify the question. | 14:31 |
w00t | yeah, i already applied your outstanding one :) | 14:31 |
w00t | new pull requests go there (if any) | 14:31 |
w00t | apart from that changes should hopefully be minimal apart from "wow, there's a lot less stuff I don't care about in here" :) | 14:32 |
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ajalkane | It's a change that definitely helps in what I'm doing | 14:33 |
* w00t converts the existing users in Nemo... | 14:34 | |
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w00t | VDVsx: actually, reping here | 18:45 |
w00t | VDVsx: nemo-qml-plugins email/ is about to go away, you now have your own nice playground over at https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugin-email | 18:46 |
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Macer | nice | 20:25 |
Macer | my new n900 showed up | 20:25 |
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VDVsx | w00t, nice :) thx, need to start cleaning that code and adding docs :) | 20:59 |
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