| Merbot` | phaeron lbt sage SR#166 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/166 | 00:06 |
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| juiceme | morning | 04:24 |
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| special | today's lesson: keep an eye on your battery, and don't leave oprofile running | 05:20 |
| Sage | how so? :) | 05:25 |
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| Sage | morning all | 05:49 |
| jukkaeklund | morning | 05:50 |
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| Sage | rozhkov: I see your qmlmozbrowser stuff in your home? How is the functionality pondering if those coule be pushed to the apps repo? | 06:20 |
| rozhkov | Sage: basic browsing works good enough. i think it's safe to push it to apps | 06:22 |
| Sage | rozhkov: the tarball locations should be mentioned in the .spec files. As the www.mozilla.com doesn't really say much | 06:23 |
| Sage | if there isn't ready made tarball then put at least a comment line that points to what git tree those tarball are from etc. | 06:24 |
| rozhkov | Sage: sure, i will | 06:25 |
| rozhkov | will let you know when it's done | 06:25 |
| Sage | also %changelog should be removed from .spec | 06:28 |
| Sage | is the autoconf213 mandatory there btw? | 06:29 |
| Stskeeps | yes, something about gecko build system insanity | 06:29 |
| Stskeeps | gave up on that already in fennec times | 06:29 |
| Sage | :P | 06:29 |
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| Sage | who is mayerjosua in the build.merproject.org? | 06:30 |
| Sage | noted his patterns package and would like to say that it doesn't end up to patterns to OBS project without boss automatically | 06:31 |
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| Artox | \o | 06:32 |
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| Artox | I have yesterday built a nemo image for my phone but ended up with just a runlevel 1 shell on serial terminal | 06:33 |
| Artox | have I missed some required package? I compared to nexus 7 adaptation and the difference seems only some package systemd-ttyS0 | 06:33 |
| Artox | https://build.merproject.org/package/view_file?file=gta04-support.yaml&package=patterns-gta04&project=home%3Amayerjosua&rev=d5ef7efb40e990b8a5dff05d658eb2c1 | 06:35 |
| Artox | this is the extra packages I use | 06:35 |
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| Artox | oO; just found an leftover from pandaboard fiels where I copied the patterns from :| | 06:36 |
| Artox | maybe that will fix it already | 06:36 |
| Artox | what I forgot to change was - pattern:pandaboard-support | 06:38 |
| Artox | still, my packages form gta04.support were installed so I am not convinced it will fix, but hope. | 06:38 |
| Sage | Artox: can you show the .ks file you used. Best to start with that on the debugging | 06:42 |
| Artox | I can | 06:42 |
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| niqt | morning | 06:43 |
| Sage | Artox: about the patterns those patterns-xyz packages don't do anything in the home: project but only in the ones that are checked by boss. like nemo: So you need to put the patterns manually to the obs home projects | 06:43 |
| Artox | http://pastebin.com/3fs33QSu | 06:44 |
| Artox | I found out about the pattersn stuff | 06:44 |
| Artox | osc meta pattern | 06:44 |
| Artox | thats what matters | 06:44 |
| Sage | :nod: | 06:44 |
| Artox | but my device-specific packages were installed because I had them in that .ks also | 06:44 |
| Artox | jsut remvoed them a minute ago and fixed my pattern | 06:44 |
| Artox | what surprised me is how few pckages are isntalled compare to PA, but then tehre is full kde also | 06:46 |
| Artox | its 111 packages that make up the just created image | 06:46 |
| Sage | ah | 06:48 |
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| Sage | you need to use --pkgmgr=zypp on image build | 06:48 |
| Sage | it defaults to yum which well is not working so well | 06:49 |
| Sage | phaeron: could we change mic to default to zypp always? | 06:49 |
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| Artox | I will add that zypp | 06:50 |
| Artox | and see what that changes | 06:50 |
| Sage | Artox: btw, about the gta04-usbnet package you should check also package called usb-moded. It is handling the usb modes like, sdk, masstorage, mtp etc. and assining the ip for sdk mode etc. | 06:51 |
| Artox | I will | 06:51 |
| Artox | currently, my usbnet does its job pretty fine though | 06:51 |
| Artox | the networkmanager part at least | 06:51 |
| Artox | so its doing 475 packages now | 06:52 |
| Artox | looks promising | 06:52 |
| Sage | Artox: https://github.com/saukko/mer-kernel-adaptation/blob/master/kernel-adaptation-sample.spec you should also look this for kernel packaging reference | 06:52 |
| Sage | e.g. https://github.com/saukko/mer-kernel-adaptation/blob/master/kernel-adaptation-sample.spec#L81 is something one should always do | 06:53 |
| Sage | i.e. check that all the configs that are required by different components in mer are enabled and the stuff that conflicts are disabled | 06:54 |
| Sage | and doing that on .spec will always make sure that if requirements change it will be noted with a build failure later. | 06:55 |
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| Artox | will consider it | 06:57 |
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| MMN-o | Hulloh, I installed Nemo a couple of months ago as dual boot on my N9 dedicated dev phone | 07:36 |
| MMN-o | I thought I'd start playing around again, should it be enough to replace the Alt_OS partition or should I flash something? | 07:37 |
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| MMN-o | replace as in clear and extract a new rootfs | 07:39 |
| MMN-o | and not bother with the Moslo or Fiasco bits | 07:39 |
| mikhas | qwazix, do you remember who was working on Korean input methods for Harmattan? | 07:40 |
| phako | you mean upgrading nemo or removing it? | 07:40 |
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| qwazix | mikhas, no, was it on the relevant thread on tmo? | 07:48 |
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| mikhas | qwazix, that's why I am asking you ;-) | 07:49 |
| qwazix | I don't remember anything about korean unfortunately | 07:50 |
| qwazix | mikhas, I assume you have seen this http://code.google.com/p/meego-harmattan-korean-inputmethod/ | 07:51 |
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| mikhas | hm no | 07:51 |
| mikhas | no code | 07:52 |
| qwazix | yeah but it has the developer email | 07:52 |
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| w00t | Vesuri: lipstick is now set up to automatically go to devel:mw | 08:15 |
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| w00t | Vesuri: lipstick-colorful-home also done (if you ever need to touch that) | 08:35 |
| rcg | w00t, you mean that obs automatically pulls and builds sources from git? | 08:36 |
| w00t | rcg: for projects set up for it (see https://webhook.merproject.org/webhook/), yes - once you tag, it'll automatically drop them in obs | 08:37 |
| rcg | cool | 08:37 |
| w00t | there are some caveats that are yet to be documented there: you need to ensure your commit messages document things so they go into .changes (as you can't have an empty changelog for a release) - you do that by adding a category to your commit message | 08:38 |
| w00t | e.g. "[lipstick] Convert to git packaging" - the part in brackets.. it can be anything, but each release needs to have at least one item with something in brackets | 08:39 |
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| Vesuri | w00t: nice, thanks | 08:46 |
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| kulve | special: how do you flash your nemo to nexus 7? And what kernel bootargs you give to kernel? | 08:57 |
| special | for dualboot? | 08:57 |
| kulve | well, I guess I'm more interested in what ends up being the bootargs | 08:58 |
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| special | kulve: http://pastebin.com/4Sz0rnAq | 08:59 |
| special | first part is from the config file that MultiROM uses | 09:00 |
| special | (which came from the PA rom) | 09:00 |
| kulve | special: would you be interested in writing a wiki page about multirom installation: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/Tegra3/Nexus7/Dual_boot_installation | 09:00 |
| kulve | I could then test those instructions and get a dual boot for me as well.. | 09:00 |
| special | sure; the process is vaguely documented on the PA_installation, but it could be a lot more explicit | 09:03 |
| special | I will definitely write down the process for creating the ROM | 09:03 |
| kulve | yesh, I was thinking that that Dual_boot_installation wiki page could cover both PA and Nemo and the PA_installation could then be changed to point to this new wiki page | 09:04 |
| special | sounds good | 09:06 |
| special | have you looked at what changes the .ks needs for SSU and all of that? | 09:06 |
| kulve | special: your command line has "console=tty0" and I set explicitly "console=tty1". The xorg-launch-helper configures vt0. I don't really know how tty0 and vt0 relates.. | 09:07 |
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| kulve | special: about SSU, did you notice my comment about yamls and .ks ~13.5 hours ago? | 09:09 |
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| special | ..I really need a new IRC client | 09:11 |
| kulve | I don't really know what that SSU does but at least the yamls look similar to other platforms.. | 09:11 |
| special | great | 09:12 |
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| aard | kulve: ssu takes care of resolving urls for repositories -> you can easily switch to different repositories without having to worry about the repositories configured on devices | 09:16 |
| kulve | interesting | 09:17 |
| aard | kulve: in a later version (which is not yet in nemo) it can take care of writing the repo files as well, and if nemo ever has standardized kickstarts without device-specific post hacks it can provide kickstarts without additional configuration, too | 09:18 |
| MMN-o | phako: I meant upgrading Nemo. | 09:30 |
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| Sage | sledges: headsup something broke and now pandaboard patterns might be well gone for a moment from repos :P | 10:41 |
| * Sage is trying to move those to use stuff from git instead of manual updates | 10:42 | |
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| sledges | boom! oh yeah :) | 10:47 |
| sledges | conspiracy probably :D | 10:48 |
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| juiceme | Released ubiboot-02 (integrated version). See the details on TMO or check #ubiboot | 11:32 |
| w00t | juiceme: what's ubiboot for? | 11:33 |
| juiceme | it's a multiboot manager for N9(50) | 11:34 |
| juiceme | allows you to select OS and kernel(s) to boot to | 11:35 |
| juiceme | fairly nice for developers as you don't need to flash a new kernel, but rather manage your kernels like in a dekstop *nix machine... | 11:35 |
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| w00t | juiceme: that sounds interesting | 11:46 |
| juiceme | thanks :) | 11:46 |
| w00t | i hope you're booting nemo with it ;) | 11:46 |
| juiceme | sure. that's why I also announced at #nemomobile | 11:47 |
| juiceme | here is demonstration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGxnqUgm3WM | 11:48 |
| juiceme | 3 boot OS'es, Harmattan, Nemo, Nitdroid | 11:48 |
| w00t | juiceme: hmm, what do you do UI with? | 11:49 |
| juiceme | queen of all programming languages, #!/bin/sh | 11:50 |
| juiceme | :) :) | 11:50 |
| w00t | animated shell..? | 11:50 |
| w00t | :P | 11:50 |
| w00t | i'm not sure i even want to imagine what that looks like | 11:50 |
| juiceme | though I shoiuld probly use python... | 11:50 |
| juiceme | all's GPLed, go and dip yrself in da horrific source :) | 11:51 |
| w00t | i'd like to, but my todo list is taller than i am at this stage, so i don't know if i'll ever get the chance | 11:52 |
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| juiceme | well it's really that because I wanted something out quickly... and it kind of got out of hand as I thought of new features.. | 11:52 |
| w00t | plus i don't multiboot, so moslo's good enough for me | 11:52 |
| juiceme | true, moslo is fine if you only do Nemo. the ubiboot 1st stage borrows _really_ lot from MOSLO | 11:53 |
| juiceme | or steals or whatever :) | 11:53 |
| Sage | :P | 11:57 |
| Figure | looks nice | 11:58 |
| Sage | personally not sure if I want to dualboot my phone. I dont even want to dualboot my laptop/desktop. VM is nice :P | 11:58 |
| juiceme | Sage, what VM are you running on your device :P | 11:58 |
| Figure | now that's an idea.. lets run xen on phone and change the os on the fly ;) | 11:59 |
| w00t | Sage: yeah | 11:59 |
| * w00t does everything in VMs nowdays | 11:59 | |
| juiceme | I was thinking more on the lines of dosbox :) | 11:59 |
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| Merbot` | phaeron lbt sage SR#167 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/167 | 13:37 |
| Merbot` | phaeron lbt sage SR#168 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/168 | 13:37 |
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| w00t | chriadam|away: Vesuri: VDVsx: special: Sfiet_Konstantin: heads up: nemo-qml-plugins is now using git packaging, this means you no longer need to wrangle packages into obs, just pushing a git tag is enough. | 15:13 |
| w00t | you will need to make sure that important commits have a descriptive part in square brackets at the start of the commit message though (e.g. "[contacts] fix memory leak"), and each release needs at least one such descriptive commit | 15:13 |
| w00t | anyone else who works on nemo-qml-plugins ^ | 15:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | cool \o/ | 15:13 |
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| Sage | w00t: it doesn't need to be at the start of the commit message. right, phaeron ? | 15:16 |
| Sage | w00t: that "[xyz] stuff" | 15:16 |
| w00t | Sage: even if it isn't mandatory, convention says it would be a good idea | 15:16 |
| phaeron | any line that starts with [foo] | 15:17 |
| phaeron | but yeah convention is neater | 15:17 |
| w00t | generally your summary is in the first line, and the summary is what you want in the changelog, so | 15:17 |
| Sage | w00t: I'm fine with it just know people that don't like to do it like that ;) | 15:18 |
| w00t | Sage: death to the unbelievers | 15:18 |
| w00t | ;) | 15:18 |
| Sage | thus said that it is not mandatory ;) | 15:18 |
| w00t | or better still: we make them use OBS | 15:19 |
| w00t | :P | 15:19 |
| Sage | :D | 15:19 |
| Sage | w00t: also we need to make sure people dont add stuff to .changes file. | 15:19 |
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| sledges | w00t, \o/ | 15:19 |
| sledges | will work soon on those | 15:19 |
| w00t | Sage: yeah. i'll probably send out a mail containing the useful information tonight, now that we're starting to get somewhat on a critical mass | 15:20 |
| Sage | w00t: some Nemo/DeveloperProcess page could be in place | 15:20 |
| Sage | in mer wiki | 15:21 |
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| * w00t has to go out for now | 15:22 | |
| w00t | back later tonight | 15:22 |
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| teve | vsp | 15:32 |
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| Merbot` | phaeron lbt sage SR#166 Rejected promotion request | 16:24 |
| Merbot` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#148 Rejected promotion request | 16:24 |
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| Merbot` | phaeron lbt sage SR#167 Accepted promotion request | 16:29 |
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| Merbot` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#153 Rejected promotion request | 16:30 |
| Merbot` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#156 Accepted promotion request | 16:34 |
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| Merbot` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#154 Accepted promotion request | 16:58 |
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| Sage | what was the cmd to turn wifi powersave off? | 19:30 |
| phaeron | Sage: iwconfig wlan0 power off | 19:31 |
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| vgrade | lbt ping | 20:22 |
| vgrade | re https://build.merproject.org/request/show/153 | 20:23 |
| vgrade | the cibot build trial has failed for my sr due to multiple choices for libGLESv2.so (mer cores mesa-llvmpipe and my rasp Pi gfx adapation package) | 20:26 |
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| vgrade | In my home I have some 'Prefers' setup in the project conf | 20:26 |
| Sage | vgrade: moment | 20:27 |
| phaeron | vgrade: they need to be setup ahead of promotion on the target project | 20:27 |
| Sage | vgrade: will fix | 20:27 |
| vgrade | Is this solved in the same way for nemo:devel:hw:brcm:bcm2835:rpi | 20:27 |
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| * phaeron has some automation for packaging prjconf and installing them from the packages | 20:27 | |
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| Sage | vgrade: resubmit | 20:29 |
| Sage | phaeron: something like that would be nice | 20:29 |
| Sage | similar to patterns :) | 20:29 |
| phaeron | Sage: already implemented :) | 20:29 |
| * Sage hugs phaeron | 20:30 | |
| vgrade | thanks guys, | 20:30 |
| lbt | vgrade: wow | 20:30 |
| vgrade | phaeron: let me know howto for next time | 20:30 |
| lbt | I really can't step out w/o someone fixing it :) | 20:30 |
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| phaeron | vgrade: I'll let you know once we deploy it for nemo obs | 20:31 |
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| vgrade | phaeron: ok, cheers | 20:31 |
| Merbot` | phaeron lbt sage SR#169 Rejected promotion request | 20:32 |
| Merbot` | phaeron lbt sage SR#170 waiting for review at https://build.merproject.org//request/show/170 | 20:34 |
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| vgrade | lbt: thanks | 20:36 |
| Sage | vgrade: lets see how it goes now | 20:40 |
| vgrade | cheers Sage , I was wondering how the project conf changes I made would get handled | 20:41 |
| Sage | manually by us atm. | 20:42 |
| Sage | usually those don't change much after the start | 20:42 |
| vgrade | Sage: yea one of those things you have to touch every 6 months | 20:43 |
| vgrade | noted for next time though | 20:43 |
| Sage | for n950/n900/n9 I've touched those like 2 years ago last time and it was the first time :P | 20:43 |
| Merbot` | phaeron lbt sage SR#170 Accepted promotion request | 20:43 |
| phaeron | it helps to have that stuff in git though :) | 20:45 |
| w00t | git ALL the things | 20:47 |
| phaeron | yes ! | 20:48 |
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| vgrade | Sage: all done , thanks. | 21:03 |
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| vgrade | Sage: will look he kickstarter configs for a Pi basic Image | 21:05 |
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| w00t | vgrade: how's the pi stuff coming? | 21:21 |
| vgrade | w00t: https://build.merproject.org/project/monitor?project=nemo%3Adevel%3Ahw%3Abrcm%3Abcm2835%3Arpi | 21:22 |
| vgrade | next stop getting a new kickstart created | 21:22 |
| w00t | cool :) | 21:22 |
| vgrade | w00t: and the de-x11 work? | 21:22 |
| w00t | git packaging (which is kind of a prerequisite) is in full swing (https://webhook.merproject.org/webhook/), and I made a good milestone today.. built qt4 and qt5 versions of a package from a single source tree/git repo with a single tag | 21:23 |
| vgrade | cool :) | 21:24 |
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| w00t | so next is to start porting more stuff | 21:25 |
| w00t | mikko (who is seemingly not here) has also been looking into lipstick-on-wayland, so we may have something up with not too much effort maybe | 21:26 |
| vgrade | w00t: what do you need from a kickstart, I have two ways of going | 21:26 |
| w00t | honestly.. i don't know :) i've generally left kickstarts/images up to other people as it's simply not an area i know much about | 21:27 |
| vgrade | building up a basic one which just boots into qt5 qmlscene or having a full blown nemo based one which will run slow due to no accel in X11 | 21:29 |
| vgrade | I will go both ways | 21:30 |
| w00t | alright, i think full nemo would be more ideal for me as it's a more known working system | 21:31 |
| vgrade | I guess it depends on whay you port first I guess | 21:31 |
| vgrade | ok, so if I can do something will allows ease of switching between old qt4 and new qt5 | 21:33 |
| vgrade | the issue with full nemo is there will be no hw accell for qt4 under x11 | 21:34 |
| Sage | vgrade: as rpi doesn't have x11 driver the .ks file for it will be quite minimal. Also we don't have groups or anything really for wayland stuff yet. | 21:34 |
| * Sage is talking in his sleep :P | 21:34 | |
| vgrade | Sage: it can use fbdev | 21:34 |
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| vgrade | Sage: an old minimal Pi setup, http://bug10738.openaos.org/images/raspberry-pi/mer-core-armv6l-connectivity-xorg-basic-qmlviewer-raspPi.ks | 21:44 |
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| chriadam | w00t: \o/ | 23:58 |
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