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| gry | hi! does a radio application exist for Nemo? | 05:33 |
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| gry | and I start following https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing but the flasher is labeled as 'fremantle' flasher, while what I need to flash would be meego. which file do I use? | 05:44 |
| wmarone_ | gry: what device? | 05:44 |
| gry | n950 | 05:44 |
| wmarone_ | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Nokia_N950 | 05:44 |
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| gry | yes, that's what I linked to | 05:45 |
| gry | > Harmattan Flasher: tablets-dev.nokia.com (mirror: skeiron.org) | 05:45 |
| gry | I don't know /what/ file to download | 05:46 |
| wmarone_ | you linked to the top, I assumed you missed it | 05:46 |
| gry | ah yes, fail link, sorry | 05:46 |
| wmarone_ | tablets-dev hasn't worked in a while for me, so you have two options | 05:47 |
| wmarone_ | http://www.martindengler.com/proj/n950-flasher-beta1/ | 05:47 |
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| wmarone_ | there's also flasher_3.12.1_amd64.deb at http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/maemo-dev-env-downloads/ | 05:48 |
| wmarone_ | N9/N950 are "Harmattan" and not actually "MeeGo" | 05:48 |
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| gry | I did "sudo umount /dev/sdX" and got no error, "sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdX" says "Could not stat /dev/sdX --- No such file or directory" | 06:06 |
| gry | what can I do after that? I followed previous steps and got the results they expected | 06:07 |
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| wmarone_ | might want to wait a bit, I don't have an N950 unfortunately | 06:07 |
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| gry | ah, i typoed, seems fine | 06:09 |
| gry | while untarring, https://pastee.org/6y82g tar: This does not look like a tar archive | 06:12 |
| gry | ah, nvm, it didn't finish downloading yet | 06:12 |
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| iekku | morning | 07:13 |
| gry | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Nokia_N950_.26_Nokia_N9_Rootfs_Installation | 07:34 |
| gry | i did that, do i reboot the device now? it's still showing a green moslo screen | 07:34 |
| gry | it says it's a 'meego bootloader' | 07:34 |
| gry | ah, unplugged usb, it's loading | 07:36 |
| iekku | :) | 08:03 |
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| gry | I'm in and everything looks great :) | 08:04 |
| gry | great interface and design work | 08:04 |
| gry | trying to figure out how to focus images in the camera (meego autofocused and this one tries to but not very well) | 08:04 |
| iekku | do we have design in nemo? :D | 08:08 |
| gry | appears the date and time reset after reboot, but timezone didn't | 08:21 |
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| sledges | gry, known bug | 09:15 |
| sledges | there are soirces of radio app btw for freemantle and harmatten | 09:15 |
| sledges | can be ported ok i recon | 09:15 |
| sledges | iekku, nemo has been recently harmattanised by thp :) | 09:17 |
| iekku | sledges, oh, cool | 09:20 |
| iekku | sledges, have been way too busy to follow what's happening in nemo / mer | 09:21 |
| iekku | or even follow irc properly | 09:21 |
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| gry | how do i enter root shell? | 09:23 |
| sledges | though i still dont like the tearing when flicking apps launcher (on n9, gry could you test it on n950 too? just flick the list downwards finger movement when it's on top, to overscroll. yoh will see tearing as if there were two columns of 4 icons instead of 1 column of 8) | 09:38 |
| sledges | tearing started after hsrmattanising.. | 09:39 |
| gry | not sure i got the idea as to what i should do | 09:40 |
| sledges | Sage, could those debug files be shipped as part of binaries? cannot check now, typing from n9 :) | 09:40 |
| gry | ('flick list downwards'? what does flick mean? what list?) | 09:40 |
| sledges | gry, i'll shoot the video. probably it's just me, otherwise youd noticed whilst scrolling the apps icons list) | 09:41 |
| sledges | gry, in terminal type su | 09:41 |
| sledges | password is nemo | 09:41 |
| gry | ah, yes, that works | 09:41 |
| gry | i don't think sshd is running, which complicates things a bit (i don't know how to start it ) | 09:42 |
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| sledges | it is eunning | 09:43 |
| sledges | ssh localhost to test | 09:43 |
| gry | hmm | 09:43 |
| sledges | simple rule: if you can ping it, you can ssh to it ;) | 09:45 |
| gry | ok i followed https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/USBNetworking and logged in from lappy to the phone using usb | 09:45 |
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| gry | feel free to elaborate the tearing thing, i'd be happy to try it :-) | 09:45 |
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| sledges | good stuff gry | 09:49 |
| gry | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/USBNetworking "Connect the device with usb cable to your host pc and run following commands " -- run them on the phone? | 09:51 |
| Sage | sledges: the point is that as those are binaries rpm shouldn't touch to those parts really. | 09:53 |
| Sage | sledges: so they need to be shipped as is without stripping the debuginfo | 09:53 |
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| sledges | gry, when you see the top row of app icons, swipe with your finger downwards. the lost slides down, with nothing above. when you relsase fonger, list springs back up. if you do this fastvultiple times, you i se tearing | 09:57 |
| sledges | but only in landscape | 09:57 |
| sledges | gry, on host pc | 10:00 |
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| gry | sledges: don't see anything wrong in landscape but took a screenshot with portrait, http://i.imgur.com/fHQfuET.png, happens when i view the 'opened apps' panel too | 10:21 |
| gry | (also i followed the usb networking guide and phone says network unreachable when i ping ip) | 10:21 |
| gry | ping 8.8.8.8 as root on phone: From 192.168.2.15 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable | 10:22 |
| Jonni | gry: those 2.14 commands are runned in linux pc | 10:23 |
| gry | yes i did | 10:23 |
| Jonni | pastebin, "ifconfig" and "route -n" from phone | 10:24 |
| Jonni | and does ping 192.168.2.14 work | 10:25 |
| gry | ifconfig and route are unknown commands on phone; yes, it does | 10:25 |
| gry | i tried running them as root btw | 10:25 |
| Jonni | /sbin/ifconfig | 10:25 |
| Jonni | and "/sbin/route -n" | 10:26 |
| gry | https://pastee.org/6aejf | 10:26 |
| Jonni | gry: default route is wrong, you need to run "/sbin/route add default gw 192.168.2.14" on the phone | 10:27 |
| gry | it will persist after reboot right? | 10:27 |
| gry | it worked to ping 8.8.8.8 btw but now it says unknown host merproject.org | 10:28 |
| Jonni | /etc/usb-moded/usb-moded.ini if you want persist after reboot | 10:28 |
| gry | that's a config, what do i add to it? | 10:28 |
| Jonni | [network] | 10:29 |
| Jonni | ip = 192.168.2.15 | 10:29 |
| Jonni | gateway = 192.168.2.14 | 10:29 |
| Jonni | and what does cat /etc/resolv.conf say in your phone? | 10:29 |
| gry | # Generated by Connection Manager\r\nnameserver 127.0.0.1 | 10:30 |
| the-boss | gry: Error: "Generated" is not a valid command. | 10:30 |
| Jonni | gry: run "echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf" on the phone | 10:31 |
| Jonni | gry: after that ping should work | 10:31 |
| gry | i don't want to use 8.8.8.8 as a dns server though do i? | 10:31 |
| Jonni | well I always use 8.8.8.8 but feel free to use anything that you like | 10:32 |
| gry | it worked -- as did 192.168.1.1; excellent :) | 10:33 |
| gry | is there a reason this thing uses zypper? its performance? :-) | 10:34 |
| gry | iirc meego packages are .deb so that's some new thing ;-) | 10:34 |
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| gry | what about laptop-side commands? i am quite confident that iptables doesn't persist after reboot, is there a way to make them all persist? | 10:45 |
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| juiceme | gry, sure, just create a firewall script in /etc/init.d/ that restores the iptables. | 10:50 |
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| sledges | gry yu are using old version of nemo | 11:18 |
| sledges | please update | 11:18 |
| sledges | su as root | 11:18 |
| sledges | screen | 11:18 |
| sledges | iwconfig wlan0 power off | 11:18 |
| gry | how do i update after that? | 11:18 |
| gry | ouch | 11:18 |
| sledges | zypper ref | 11:18 |
| sledges | zypper up | 11:19 |
| sledges | wlan should be connected | 11:19 |
| gry | i hope that there is a way to manage networks without the raw commands, or that i would stop being uncomfortable with them one day | 11:21 |
| gry | doing that now | 11:21 |
| sledges | wlan yas ui | 11:21 |
| sledges | has | 11:21 |
| gry | timeout accessing repomd.xml on releases.merproject.org | 11:23 |
| sledges | ping google.com | 11:23 |
| gry | works | 11:24 |
| gry | ping releases.merproject.org, also works | 11:24 |
| sledges | retry pls, or check the statis of repos that zypper lr -u gives you | 11:25 |
| gry | https://pastee.org/ppbe5 | 11:26 |
| gry | trying again, still timeout | 11:26 |
| gry | looks like it worked on third try | 11:29 |
| gry | does https://pastee.org/wyukf look ok or did it ignore something? | 11:34 |
| sledges | ok | 11:49 |
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| Sage | ok, I'll try to check new nemo snapshots | 11:55 |
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| gry | File './armv7hl/buteo-mtp-sample-vendor-configuration-0.0.44-1.2.Nemo.armv7hl.rpm' not found on medium 'http://repo.pub.meego.com/CE:/MW:/Shared/Mer_Core-next_armv7hl/' | 12:07 |
| gry | Abort, retrŠ½, ignore? [a/r/i/?] (a): | 12:07 |
| gry | retry, even, typo there | 12:07 |
| gry | https://pastee.org/8dupa | 12:07 |
| Sage | gry: do zypper ref, zypper dup again | 12:09 |
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| gry | dup or up? | 12:22 |
| gry | i assumed up as before, waiting for it | 12:22 |
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| Sage | I use dup personally | 12:28 |
| Sage | dup makes the image match the situation that is in the repository | 12:29 |
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| vgrade | morning | 12:36 |
| Jonni | gry: I usually just do this in /etc/network/interfaces to make it persistant accross reboots http://pastebin.com/McR8cEwe | 12:36 |
| Jonni | (which imho is much easier way vs nemo wiki usbnetworking instructions which are just confusing) | 12:37 |
| Sage | Jonni: could you add new topic in that page and add you instructions there? :) | 12:38 |
| Jonni | surem I'll try remember adding my instructions there latere in evening | 12:41 |
| gry | thanks | 12:43 |
| gry | that's what a folk here uses for his n900 and maemo; my laptop is the host and it already has some stuff in /etc/network/interfaces, which i find readable too | 12:43 |
| gry | (unfortunately i am not good enough to write it) | 12:44 |
| gry | if during zypper up the console says 'Installing x', it's ok to disconnect from internet, right? | 12:44 |
| gry | ... https://pastee.org/jsf38 | 12:45 |
| gry | (it should be around sleep time and i have no idea how long this would take | 12:45 |
| gry | and i usually turn off computer, i.e. shut down internet, for the night) | 12:45 |
| Jonni | yes its ok to disconnect as in that phase packages have already been downloaded | 12:46 |
| gry | ah, it finished right now, how cunning :) | 12:46 |
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| gry | i rebooted; icons of some apps are missing (browser for example) | 12:50 |
| gry | no issues with landscare either, i can't reproduce the problem | 12:51 |
| gry | landscape | 12:51 |
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| gry | ... and missing icons were a theme fault | 12:53 |
| gry | i don't see how to close running applications in this version, no [x] | 12:57 |
| * gry sleeps, will read up in the morning | 12:57 | |
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| Sage | gry: "swipe" from the left of right to minimize the app | 14:36 |
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| ingi | Hi, the journal on my updated N900 is being flooded by 'localhost sysuid[289]: bme_header_read: [fd=-1]: read header: Connection timed out', any way to stop it ? | 15:27 |
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| spiiroin | ingi: looks like https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=579 | 15:32 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 579 in N900 "BME errors spamming the journal" [Normal,New] | 15:32 |
| ingi | Spiiroin: Yup, that describes what my N900 is experiencing right now. It occurs directly after boot though, no USB charger or anything has been inserted when it starts. | 15:37 |
| spiiroin | ingi: it probably is something simple, the problem is to find out where... can you try to restart sysuid? does that make the problem go away? | 15:42 |
| ingi | spiiroin: I killed it, which in turn brough down a service 'meegotouch-systemui', restarting it failed. Rebooted phone, and now there's no flooding. But I can see that the battery got drained, it was almost fully loaded before the reboot, after reboot about 25%. | 15:45 |
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| Sage | http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg01162.html | 17:32 |
| Sage | there | 17:32 |
| nsuffys | \o/ Thank you :) | 17:36 |
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| ingi | Sage: Great work, thank you. | 17:54 |
| Sage | if someone has time we would need an app for ssu for nemo. App that can change e.g., release and flavour | 18:07 |
| Sage | maybe even improve this https://github.com/nemomobile/ssu/tree/master/rndregisterui | 18:08 |
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| MSameer | Sage: what should I do to get those in (except subdevsrc2) ? https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Amsameer%3Agstreamer | 19:14 |
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| nsuffys | My short video about new NEMO release on N900 : http://t.co/UToXss7fRz :) | 19:44 |
| MSameer | but why are you using the stylus? | 19:46 |
| MSameer | aha | 19:47 |
| MSameer | N900 | 19:47 |
| MSameer | thought N950 | 19:47 |
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| GentSir | MSameer, if you have an n950 I'll take it... | 19:59 |
| MSameer | GentSir: I would have loved to but I have only 1 N950 :| | 20:00 |
| GentSir | I've never had one :/ | 20:00 |
| GentSir | The only ones I've seen for "sale" are $1000+ | 20:00 |
| MSameer | it was extremely difficult to get them | 20:01 |
| MSameer | even for Nokians | 20:01 |
| MSameer | believe me :| | 20:01 |
| MSameer | the main issue with N950s is the battery life and quality of keyboard other than that (And ignoring the screen, they are brilliant) | 20:02 |
| MSameer | too bad no phones with keyboards are being manufactured these days | 20:02 |
| GentSir | They were a developers device, not a consumer one. So flaws were expected and not a big deal. I have an N9. Haven't used it for in awhile, my best friend has been using it the last year or so | 20:03 |
| GentSir | MSameer, have you seen the Blackberry q10? It's hitting the US next month and I plan to get one. | 20:03 |
| MSameer | i still use my N9 | 20:03 |
| MSameer | GentSir: unfortunately no, I couldn't get my hands on a developer BB | 20:04 |
| MSameer | and honestly, I wouldn't invest in that | 20:04 |
| GentSir | MSameer, I haven't used one, but they look brilliant. | 20:04 |
| GentSir | Plus, we'll probably see a "community" nemo/sailfish port to it | 20:04 |
| GentSir | It has that "Gentleman Executive" look to it that I love. | 20:05 |
| MSameer | they look but i heard that the excessive usage of gestures makes the ui not that nice | 20:05 |
| MSameer | but i am not sure since I haven't touched it | 20:05 |
| MSameer | I guess I will stick to N9 for now | 20:06 |
| GentSir | I'll certainly get a hands-on demo of it before I buy | 20:06 |
| GentSir | But it has a smaller screen and larger battery than most smartphones. Full hardware keyboard, and it looks like it has an excellent build quality. | 20:06 |
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| MSameer | it costs a lot too :) | 20:30 |
| MSameer | but i care more about the screen size | 20:30 |
| GentSir | MSameer, here in the US the Blackberry z10 would cost me $200 on my contract. I suspect the q10 will be the same when it's released here next month. | 20:33 |
| MSameer | I doubt I can get it for 200 euros | 20:36 |
| MSameer | also take care, boot loader might be locked or something | 20:36 |
| MSameer | unless you plan to live with RIM's OS | 20:36 |
| GentSir | BB10 isn't bad, and its apps are built on Qt/QML. So a lot of the skills I'm learning to design apps for SailfishOS would easily transfer over if I wanted to. There will probably be some way to get around a locked bootloader before long. | 20:37 |
| MSameer | i hope so | 20:41 |
| MSameer | good luck :) | 20:41 |
| GentSir | In any case, it's a very nice phone. Reminds me a little of the Nokia E72 | 20:44 |
| Sage | MSameer: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=omap3camd-devel.spec&package=omap3camd-devel&project=home%3Amsameer%3Agstreamer&rev=29439413617c5d054e96730b45b56fd9 <- post and postun are bad. Should not do ln and rm but install file | 20:51 |
| Sage | MSameer: so what packages you would submit from those? | 20:52 |
| Sage | omap3camd and gstreamer are existing so rest? | 20:52 |
| MSameer | Sage: all except gst-nokia-videosrc2 | 20:54 |
| MSameer | Sage: I tried having symlinks in the package but couldn't get it to work | 20:55 |
| MSameer | i can create a new project and copy the stuff there | 20:57 |
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| sledges | Sage, this worked, "if you choose to accept it" ;) https://build.merproject.org/package/rdiff?linkrev=base&package=pvr-omap4&project=home%3Asledge%3Abranches%3Anemo%3Adevel%3Ahw%3Ati%3Aomap4%3Apandaboard&rev=3 | 22:30 |
| sledges | (I had to bruteforcedly package up all *debug* files, to keep mer-next happy as well) | 22:32 |
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