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| kulve | at least qt5 doesn't seem to use any of those EGL_NOK_* Nokia extensions | 04:22 |
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| * lpotter wants to rewrite ofono-qt | 05:34 | |
| kulve | Qt 4.8 do contain checks for EGL_NOK. At least for the meego runtime(?), not sure if it's expected elsewhere or if anybody is tested the elsewhere part with Nemo: | 05:38 |
| kulve | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/Tegra3/Nexus7/EGL_NOK_issues | 05:38 |
| special | kulve: are you using the meego graphicssystem? | 05:39 |
| kulve | I think I'm using opengl gfx system | 05:39 |
| kulve | QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=runtime | 05:41 |
| kulve | QT_DEFAULT_RUNTIME_SYSTEM=opengl | 05:41 |
| special | try QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=opengl | 05:41 |
| kulve | what does that change? | 05:41 |
| special | runtime is meant to allow the meego graphicssystem to switch between opengl (for active applications) and raster (when inactive) | 05:42 |
| special | because SGX drivers make it very expensive to keep opengl contexts | 05:42 |
| special | nothing in Qt should *require* any of those extensions, except maybe the meego graphicssystem. | 05:43 |
| kulve | yeah, I guess it would be nice to have first a working system and then see if those could be optimized/accelerated with some other extensions than the NOK ones | 05:44 |
| kulve | no change, the whole display is still black when the vkb should be visible | 05:45 |
| special | that's more likely to be something with mcompositor or maliit | 05:46 |
| special | how the keyboard works is ..strange | 05:46 |
| kulve | I did unset the default runtime (QT_DEFAULT_RUNTIME_SYSTEM=) and now I don't see anything.. | 05:48 |
| kulve | X is running but still I see the text console still | 05:48 |
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| kulve | The window compositing works properly with opengl runtime (i.e. video's and 3d benchmarks are shown properly as live thumbnails) so it seems to be only the keyboard that has troubles. Or the keyboard combined with the nemo window manager | 05:57 |
| w00t | kulve: run maliit-server with -use-self-composition and see if that changs anything | 06:24 |
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| Sage | lpotter: I hope you mean libofono-qt https://github.com/nemomobile/libofono-qt :) | 06:47 |
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| kulve | w00t: I need to wait until evening before I can test that, but thanks for the suggestion, will test | 06:54 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7626 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7626 | 07:34 |
| kulve | w00t: actually, what is the correct place for adding that parameter? I think I had some problems with it last time. It was autolaunched from dbus or something? | 07:35 |
| w00t | systemd service, iirc | 07:38 |
| w00t | i forget | 07:38 |
| w00t | or you can just run it by hand (killall and relaunch it) | 07:38 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7626 Accepted promotion request | 07:41 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7627 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7627 | 07:41 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7602 Accepted promotion request | 07:49 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7614 Accepted promotion request | 08:01 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7612 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7612 | 08:05 |
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| kulve | rcg: I tried your patch, no change | 08:58 |
| kulve | rcg: I also created a wiki page related to extensions: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/Tegra3/Nexus7/EGL_NOK_issues | 08:59 |
| rcg | kulve, i see | 08:59 |
| rcg | well, it was worth a try, i guess | 08:59 |
| kulve | yeah | 08:59 |
| kulve | rcg: just FYI: special noted about setting QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=opengl instead of runtime: "runtime is meant to allow the meego graphicssystem to switch between opengl (for active applications) and raster (when inactive) because SGX drivers make it very expensive to keep opengl contexts" | 09:00 |
| rcg | ah i see | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | and some extra benefits | 09:01 |
| kulve | and those are? | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 09:03 |
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| Stskeeps | either way, not likely to work on non-nokia :/ | 09:03 |
| kulve | did I understand it correctly that some of these NOK extensions are supported only by the SGX drivers for Nokia's products, not even on the TI's SGX drivers for e.g. pandaboard? | 09:03 |
| Stskeeps | right | 09:04 |
| Stskeeps | it has some stuff for dithering, composition, etc i think | 09:04 |
| kulve | well, all those extensions are dead. Better to move on ;) | 09:05 |
| rcg | the extension is dead. long live the extension. | 09:05 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 09:06 |
| kulve | they weren't all even standards (at least I didn't see them in the Khronos' list) but I think the extensions supported by tegra are | 09:08 |
| kulve | http://www.khronos.org/registry/egl/ <-- that doesn't list any NOK extensions | 09:08 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 09:09 |
| Stskeeps | i'm not really able to defend those extensions but they had their reasons for being there, for performance or memory usage | 09:10 |
| kulve | yeah, I know. Not many of the standard extensions provide what X11 needs.. | 09:10 |
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| phaeron | Sage: please redo review for 7612 | 09:45 |
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| yunta | phaeron: what's up with this rq? is it normal acceptance path? | 09:54 |
| phaeron | obs times out a lot due to the heavy kernel diff | 09:55 |
| phaeron | and I have to reapply the process | 09:56 |
| phaeron | Sage: accepted the review while it was in error state | 09:56 |
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| yunta | ah | 09:57 |
| yunta | ok | 09:57 |
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| sledges | good moarning | 10:21 |
| rcg | morning sledges | 10:23 |
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| Sage | phaeron: SR#7611 same thing | 10:32 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7611 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7611 | 10:35 |
| phaeron | Sage: there | 10:35 |
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| Sage | thanks | 10:43 |
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| Sage | phaeron: could we make the-boss do notifications insatead of messages to channel? :) | 10:44 |
| Sage | at least to the meego-boss chan | 10:45 |
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| sledges | special, just tried QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=opengl on Pandaboard - "mcompositor[202]: ERROR: Bad drawable!" 3x and lipstick died before drawing anything on screen. reverting to meego | 10:49 |
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| kulve | why would meego work on panda, if it needs those NOK extensions? | 10:49 |
| sledges | =meego works fine (lipstick) | 10:50 |
| kulve | ok | 10:50 |
| sledges | but good point kulve - in my case everything dies when another opengl/qml app is launched from within lipstick | 10:50 |
| sledges | and that's when those NOK should be coming into play by mcompositor | 10:51 |
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| sledges | but Nemo runs fine on other non-nokia devices (x86) | 10:51 |
| kulve | non-accelerated? | 10:52 |
| sledges | and even you (N7 arm) can launch other apps from within lipstick (but probably you are not using accelerated graphics) | 10:52 |
| sledges | good questions - is x86 accelerated? | 10:52 |
| kulve | I guess it uses mesa and for mesa there were some fixes | 10:53 |
| sledges | right | 10:53 |
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| kulve | when will nemo switch to qt5? That should help here :) | 10:53 |
| sledges | a year ago I used lipstick on Freescale imx53 - that was accelerated: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIHRLbAAFIE also KDE Plasma: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kbQU6n8Zkw | 10:54 |
| sledges | why would it help? mcompositor is relying on those extensions, no? | 10:54 |
| sledges | why would Qt opengl rely on something Nokia-specific on anther device? | 10:55 |
| Stskeeps | well, it should work without, too | 10:55 |
| kulve | sledges: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/Tegra3/Nexus7/EGL_NOK_issues | 10:56 |
| sledges | ok, so on N7 we have vkb black screen, on Pb we have Xorg dying when accelerated apps launched from lipstick | 10:56 |
| kulve | I didn't start to study, how those are used | 10:56 |
| sledges | could be related, could be not | 10:56 |
| sledges | kulve: 18:23 < Stskeeps> some of them might be stupid nokia ones.. | 10:57 |
| sledges | when talking about eglext-test | 10:57 |
| Sage | can we drop meegotouch-home package from CE:UX:MTF already btw? w00t Vesuri special et al. | 11:03 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7612 Rejected promotion request | 11:11 |
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| Sage | oh... yunta creq or resubmit kernel if vbox is accepted without it | 11:12 |
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| yunta | fck.... | 11:27 |
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| Sage | phaeron: https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/7611 should this ask me for new review now? | 11:30 |
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| phaeron | Sage: added review | 11:43 |
| * phaeron kicks obs | 11:43 | |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7628 Rejected promotion request | 11:50 |
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| Sage | phaeron: did the cobs break down or something? | 11:51 |
| Sage | Gettin e.g. " | 11:51 |
| Sage | Unable to fetch diff: tar: | 11:51 |
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| Sage | on reviews | 11:51 |
| Sage | e.g. https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/7628 | 11:53 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7611 Rejected promotion request | 11:54 |
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| sledges | Jake9xx, which ubuntu for pandaboard image do you have? and a link maybe? | 12:09 |
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| phaeron | Sage: *shrug* | 12:30 |
| sledges | COBS works for me fine Sage (for compiling, not reviews though) | 12:30 |
| Sage | sledges: well, I'm doing something wrong in my SR's as the review is broken I guess | 12:32 |
| phaeron | 7630 looks ok | 12:32 |
| Sage | yes | 12:32 |
| Sage | https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/7629 <- looks bad as well | 12:32 |
| sledges | yowzer | 12:33 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7631 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7631 | 12:34 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7630 Rejected promotion request | 12:34 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7631 Accepted promotion request | 12:38 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7632 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7632 | 12:40 |
| Sage | https://gitorious.org/~rmstoi/meego-terminal/mtermite/commit/820eda8bbfdaa8c1592a95a20eca290ef5f927ce o_0 | 12:41 |
| Sage | well now it works :) | 12:43 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7634 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7634 | 13:07 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7632 Accepted promotion request | 13:11 |
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| yunta | creq, interesting | 13:35 |
| yunta | is it going to create one request with all the packages within? | 13:35 |
| phaeron | yes | 13:36 |
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| yunta | nice | 13:39 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7634 Accepted promotion request | 13:48 |
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| yunta | phaeron: I've made my creq with kernel and virtualbox, so prepare for timeouts, sorry :D | 14:06 |
| yunta | is it trying to do full diff on binary file, or what? | 14:07 |
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| phaeron | yunta: yes on the tar | 14:08 |
| phaeron | yunta: and yes two retries so far | 14:08 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7635 Rejected promotion request | 14:08 |
| yunta | uh.... | 14:09 |
| phaeron | :D | 14:09 |
| yunta | no specfile in virtualbox, wtf :D | 14:11 |
| Sage | empty response? | 14:12 |
| yunta | FAILED check_valid_changes (virtualbox): No specfile in virtualbox [-] | 14:13 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7636 Rejected promotion request | 14:13 |
| yunta | although it displays diff for virtualbox.spec underneath..... | 14:13 |
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| phaeron | nasty | 14:24 |
| yunta | reopening doesn't seem to be doing anything | 14:25 |
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| phaeron | yunta: that never does anything | 14:27 |
| phaeron | it might in the future | 14:27 |
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| yunta | I'll revoke this one and retry. Got some (connection?) problems during creq once, so .... | 14:32 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7637 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7637 | 14:34 |
| yunta | prechecks succeeded now? I'm lost completely. | 14:35 |
| phaeron | yes, now sage needs to approve review | 14:36 |
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| yunta | did you fix anything between my two identical creqs ? | 14:38 |
| phaeron | nope | 14:40 |
| phaeron | cobs is overloaded | 14:41 |
| yunta | ok | 14:41 |
| sledges | Jake9xx, https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/Omap4/Pandaboard | 14:44 |
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| kulve | what starts maliit? I've already added a new parameter to dbus service file and to /etc/xdg/autostart/maliit-server.desktop but still the maliit-server is run without that parameter | 15:41 |
| phaeron | xdg autostart is not used anymore , systemd user session is in control | 15:42 |
| kulve | right, there's /lib/systemd and there's /usr/lib/systemd/ | 15:44 |
| sledges | kulve, /usr/lib/systemd/user/nemo-mobile-session.target.wants/maliit-server.service | 15:44 |
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| sledges | /lib/'s system, /usr/lib/'s user | 15:44 |
| kulve | yup, that one works. Thanks | 15:45 |
| sledges | np | 15:46 |
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| kulve | w00t: if I the -use-self-composition option, I see only a flash of the nemo "lock screen" and then I'm back at the console (although X.Org is still running etc.) | 15:52 |
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| kulve | same seems to happen if I select "raster" as the QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM. If I select "native" there, I get very slow UI and no vkb at all (these without the -use-self-composition option for maliit) | 15:54 |
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| kulve | there's a popup/infobanner shown after start up in the "lock screen" saying "charging" or something like that. I think it blanks everything else while it's showing. Maybe it's similar issue with that popup than with vkb? | 16:01 |
| sledges | core blimey Jake9xx, with `strace -p <ofXorg>` crash does not happen! | 16:13 |
| sledges | (because Xorg runs slower whilst straced?) | 16:14 |
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| sledges | debugging segfaulting mcompositor via gdb and its -debugsource in just three commands for preparation - gotta love MeeGo!! | 17:03 |
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| Sage | :) | 17:20 |
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| kulve | from where do the qml gallery (tracker?) search it's pictures and videos? | 17:22 |
| kulve | s,do,does, | 17:22 |
| Sage | I would think XDG dir's | 17:26 |
| Sage | /home/nemo/Pictures or what ever it was called. | 17:26 |
| Sage | there is cmd called xdg-create-dirs or something that does the dirs | 17:26 |
| kulve | if was that at some point but I haven't seen those directories in awhile.. | 17:26 |
| Sage | yes, something changed and those are not created in image builds/boot anymore. Feel free to file a bug about those. Need to get it back in place. | 17:28 |
| kulve | I also tried to create them manually back then but qml gallery didn't still find anything. That's why I assumed they where moved somewhere | 17:28 |
| Sage | oh. Well last time I put them to /home/nemo/Pictures and it found them fine | 17:29 |
| kulve | hmm. I wonder why my .ks has mer as the user even though I create it from the .yaml files that has "nemo" in them.. | 17:29 |
| Sage | kulve: if you inherit mer things later it will override that nemo one | 17:30 |
| Sage | kickstarter overrides older info with newer when inhering stuff | 17:31 |
| kulve | ok | 17:32 |
| Sage | people should file bugs about the problems as I forgot to do things otherwise :) | 17:33 |
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| sledges | apparently this is related Jake9xx, I am getting the same error (from gdb): http://pastebin.pandaboard.org/index.php/view/45274136 | 17:37 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7637 Accepted promotion request | 17:38 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7640 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7640 | 17:40 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7640 Rejected promotion request | 17:54 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7642 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7642 | 17:57 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: so we discovered the meego settings issue was due to applauncherd | 17:58 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 17:58 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: yes, filed a bug about that | 18:00 |
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| Stskeeps | ok | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | so mer prerelease seems OK? | 18:00 |
| Sage | for some reason applauncherd when used --type=q with mtf app it segfaults | 18:00 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: I would say yes | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 18:00 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: https://review.merproject.org/#change,916 kick this | 18:01 |
| Sage | lbt: rebase this https://review.merproject.org/#change,923 | 18:01 |
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| lbt | Sage: would love to :/ | 18:02 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: this ok https://review.merproject.org/#change,644 ? | 18:03 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: also this needs kicking https://review.merproject.org/#change,888 | 18:03 |
| Stskeeps | yes, i'd prefer to do that after release has been made :P | 18:04 |
| Sage | actually there is huge amount of stuff that would need kicking :P | 18:04 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: well I though that those things do not matter when release is made | 18:07 |
| Stskeeps | i just want to keep the bw available :P | 18:07 |
| sledges | Jake9xx, apparently segfault in XFilterEvent:91:LockDisplay(ev->xany.display); is just the symptom not the cause (as the Xorg display's dead already at that point) | 18:09 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7642 Accepted promotion request | 18:24 |
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| kulve | rcg: I updated the kernel. It moslo stuff works, kexec doesn't (but I haven't got it working ever) and actually nemo did boot on second attempt.. | 18:45 |
| kulve | after a reboot that is | 18:45 |
| kulve | and yay, after loading g_multi (why doesn't it load automatically?) I get both /dev/ttyGS0 and usb0 | 18:47 |
| kulve | I also get /dev/sdX but I can't mount it (which kind of makes sens) | 18:48 |
| kulve | +e | 18:48 |
| kulve | rcg: although after blanking I lost the nemo UI again.. I guess it's running, I just don't see the X | 18:50 |
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| rcg | kulve, cool :) | 18:56 |
| rcg | sounds good | 18:56 |
| rcg | wrt kexec.. i am seriously considering dropping this in favor of just flashing the kernel | 18:57 |
| rcg | installation procedure would then be: use moslo for "flashing" the rootfs, restart, flash new kernel, voila | 18:57 |
| dm8tbr | statistically that's going to have a high kill rate | 18:58 |
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| kulve | rcg: that procedure is good for me (I've been doing it all the time) | 19:03 |
| kulve | dm8tbr: ? | 19:04 |
| dm8tbr | kulve: sooner or later flashing is going to fail for one reason an the other leaving you with an unbootable kernel | 19:05 |
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| rcg | hmm, i think the wear leveling mechanisms should assure that the flash lasts very long nowadays | 19:17 |
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| dm8tbr | rcg: maybe, there are other problems, low battery, etc | 19:37 |
| dm8tbr | damaged file | 19:38 |
| dm8tbr | etc | 19:38 |
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| kulve | dm8tbr: unbootable kernel can always be reflashed | 19:57 |
| kulve | we are not flashing the bootloader and flashing that should be easily possible | 19:58 |
| kulve | should NOT be easily possible.. | 19:58 |
| dm8tbr | kulve: sure, still it will render your device fit for a PC reflash. Preferably happens in the least convenient situations. | 19:59 |
| kulve | dm8tbr: well, you can't do antyhing without a PC, so.. | 19:59 |
| dm8tbr | then you can just always send in the kernel over usb? | 20:00 |
| kulve | yes | 20:00 |
| kulve | you mean without flashing it? Yeah, that's possible but highly inconvenient | 20:01 |
| kulve | but if you are anyway flashing an experimental rootfs there, it's mess in any case | 20:01 |
| rcg | btw, with installation via moslo i mean uploading moslo kernel and initrd via usb | 20:04 |
| rcg | not flashing it | 20:04 |
| kulve | I guess that was the initial instruction? I think it would be enough | 20:06 |
| rcg | nah, initial instruction was to flash moslo, then boot moslo and copy rootfs via usb, and then use the moslo kexec stuff to load the kernel from the root partition | 20:08 |
| rcg | unfortunately there are only so many hours in a day.. and there are so many other things to do that are much more appealing than writing documentation :D | 20:09 |
| kulve | at least that shows full hd video with gst-launch nicely both in fullscreen and in thumbnail | 20:15 |
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| kulve | too bad, qml gallery doesn't find anything and the vkb is broken. Otherwise that would be quite usable | 20:15 |
| kulve | glmark2-es2 doesn't run properly in a normal fullscreen window but the composited thumbnail works | 20:17 |
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| Sage | kulve: I'll check the xdg dirs tomorrow or so. | 20:22 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7643 Rejected promotion request | 20:40 |
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| Jake9xx | sledges: sorry, got on a sudden roadtrip and could not come to irc after work | 23:51 |
| Jake9xx | sledges: but last night I studied some stuff and the kernel driver must match the xorg driver which must match the omap_pvr.so stuff | 23:51 |
| Jake9xx | sledges: i.e. we need to find what kernel the omap in ubuntu(linaro) is using and start from that | 23:52 |
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| Jake9xx | but let's continue that | 23:53 |
| Jake9xx | sledges: tnx a lot for the ks, building a mer minimal here for tomorrow | 23:53 |
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