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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7614 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7614 | 02:34 |
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| jhancock69 | I'm interested in prototyping someone completely new. Is it possible to run NemoMobile on an N900 on headless mode? I want to boot it as a server and write a UI directly to the screen buffer. | 06:31 |
| wmarone | you could build an image that omits Xorg and drops you at the shell... | 06:34 |
| wmarone | but you might want Xorg for the graphics support | 06:34 |
| jhancock69 | cool. thanks. does NemoMobile expose events and APIs at the OS level? such as "phone call incoming" event or "disconnect call" API? or is that stuff embedded in the various UI components? | 06:36 |
| wmarone | IIRC that information is relayed by dbus | 06:36 |
| jhancock69 | I'm hoping I could use a framebuffer lib and bypass needing the xorg stuff. Is that possible? | 06:36 |
| wmarone | it is possible but significantly slower I imagine | 06:37 |
| w00t | not easily | 06:37 |
| * wmarone defers to w00t | 06:37 | |
| w00t | when things are ported to qt 5 in the future, then there will be more possibilities for doing things | 06:37 |
| jhancock69 | ok, thanks...just to give you some context, I"m trying to prototype a new UX for people with poor vision. My goal is to create well formatted text to the UI without all the x and other framework bagage and constraints. | 06:40 |
| jhancock69 | I've seen some frame buffer libs that allow me to use nice true type fonts and write direct...would like to start there. | 06:41 |
| jhancock69 | this is just a first step...if my ideas pan out, I'll need a custom device made to fit the requirements of screen and such. | 06:41 |
| jhancock69 | I figrued I would start with an N900 just to work through some of the basic stuff with nemo. | 06:42 |
| w00t | jhancock69: have you experimented with qml in the past? | 06:44 |
| jhancock69 | w00t: a bit, with qt4 | 06:50 |
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| w00t | jhancock69: ok.. just a bit curious what you're after that it doesn't allow you to do | 06:51 |
| jhancock69 | but for desktop stuff. on nemo, will qt use all the bagage of X? I would greatly like to avoid the overhead of the x client/server stuff. | 06:51 |
| w00t | it does, but it's plenty fast :) | 06:52 |
| jhancock69 | using qt would probably be a great thing, but I don't want a ton of bagage that assumes I'm trying to do a traditional windowed desktop UI. | 06:52 |
| jhancock69 | does it suck battery? | 06:52 |
| jhancock69 | I mean the X part? | 06:52 |
| w00t | no | 06:52 |
| w00t | some more focus on battery would be nice, but the display server isn't really part of that problem - usual things like minimising wakeups etc | 06:53 |
| jhancock69 | hmm, ok...so where would I start to use qt to take full control of the screen? | 06:53 |
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| cxl000 | jhancock69 you may be able to use Qt5 has a number of platform options | 07:12 |
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| jhancock69 | cxl000: is qt5 working on nemo on an n900 or some other device? | 07:19 |
| cxl000 | I dont have a n9x0 device but have run both qt5 apps and qt5 qml through platform eglfs and had them display on other devices | 07:22 |
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| niqt | morning | 07:42 |
| chriadam | good morning | 07:43 |
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| Sage | timoph: got access for the new server for nemo yesterday so I can finally push stuff to ne place :) | 07:46 |
| Sage | now only the subdomain needs to be decided and we can start publishing stuff. maybe releases.nemomobile.org? | 07:48 |
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| timoph | Sage: great | 07:55 |
| timoph | releases. sounds sane and intuitive enough | 07:56 |
| Stskeeps | releases.nemomobile.org already points there | 07:56 |
| Sage | really? | 08:01 |
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| Stskeeps | yes | 08:01 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: it points to wrong dir btw :) | 08:01 |
| Stskeeps | that's up for discussion, i guess | 08:01 |
| Sage | as now repo.merproject.org and releases.nemomobile.org show same content :P | 08:02 |
| Stskeeps | true | 08:02 |
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| Sage | lbt: ^ comments? | 08:09 |
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| sledges | Sage, Nemo on Pandaboard wreaks havoc: launching any app from lipstick (accounts-ui e.g.) kills Xorg: http://pastebin.com/80ytVwDN | 10:53 |
| sledges | at "Jan 09 12:44:07" accounts-ui launched, seconds later everything dies | 10:53 |
| sledges | PVR accel issues? | 10:53 |
| sledges | (voicecall disabled btw) | 10:55 |
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| Sage | sledges: can you get /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 11:36 |
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| tadzik | is there a way I can debug battery status on the N900? | 11:45 |
| tadzik | the battery on the toolbar is always empty | 11:45 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7616 Accepted promotion request | 11:51 |
| Sage | deztructor_: ^ | 11:52 |
| sledges | Sage, Xorg.0.log, nothing spat out: http://pastie.org/56539711 | 11:59 |
| sledges | and here's the one after restart: http://pastie.org/5653978 | 11:59 |
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| deztructor_ | tadzik: fremantle bme has different bme ipc (comparing to hermattan one), so somebody should create specific version of power contextkit provider for fremantle | 12:16 |
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| tadzik | I assume by fremantle you mean "a fremantle device" | 12:17 |
| deztructor_ | e.g. based on existing provider for n950/9, it has bme ipc impl inside, comparing it with openbmeipc (impl of bme for fremantle) | 12:18 |
| tadzik | iirc w00t says that the battery status works on the N900, so I'm curious in discovering why it doesn't work for me | 12:18 |
| deztructor_ | tadzik: basically n900 is the only official fremantle device :) | 12:18 |
| tadzik | right :) | 12:18 |
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| w00t | there was a binary-only provider which worked just fine | 12:18 |
| w00t | if it stopped working, good luck figuring out why it doesn't | 12:18 |
| w00t | and people should totally stop hilighting me so I can go sleep | 12:18 |
| w00t | :-p | 12:18 |
| deztructor_ | w00t: should you? ;) | 12:19 |
| tadzik | well, I have an unlucky device then, it seem s:) | 12:19 |
| w00t | tadzik: it'd be nice to see an open implementation of an n900 provider, based on the other n900 bme work if you're up for it | 12:19 |
| deztructor_ | sun is shining... somewhere :) | 12:19 |
| deztructor_ | tadzik: you can just take n950 provider and look what is the difference (it is subtle) with openbmeipc | 12:20 |
| sledges | sun's here (a rare case :)) | 12:20 |
| sledges | ! | 12:20 |
| deztructor_ | so, open impl. for n900 will be available. i just have not time in the nearest future, sorry :( | 12:21 |
| deztructor_ | we have snow falling (finally) and temperature is going below zero (fuf) | 12:21 |
| Sage | ok, so when did the settings stop opening on the wetab i586? :) | 12:29 |
| kulve | why does Nemo Base config include plymouth-lite-ce.post postscript? That's n900 specific and now it's added to all configs | 12:35 |
| Sage | need to fix that as the whole thing is broken | 12:41 |
| Sage | should be removed completely actually and fixed in other place | 12:41 |
| Sage | special: w00t: http://pastie.org/5654260 | 12:41 |
| Sage | when starting controlpanel from cmdline it starts fine but when with lipstick it fails on x86 | 12:41 |
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| Sage | special: w00t: it seems that invoker is broken actually | 12:49 |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/5654314 | 12:49 |
| Sage | --type=e seems to launch app | 12:53 |
| Sage | but q type segfaults | 12:53 |
| Sage | also when running without --type it segfaults | 12:54 |
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| kulve | Sage: humm, how should I add that Nemo Complete pattern into the .ks? | 12:59 |
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| sledges | Sage, on the similar not: what package provides invoker? | 13:02 |
| Sage | kulve: Groups: - Nemo Complete | 13:02 |
| Sage | sledges: mapplauncherd | 13:03 |
| sledges | thanks! | 13:03 |
| kulve | Sage: did that but it doesn't change the rootfs size one bit.. | 13:04 |
| kulve | If I typo that, if will complain so it does find the group but doesn't seem to include anything | 13:04 |
| kulve | s,if,it, | 13:05 |
| Sage | kulve: so you should do rootfs size in the adaptations/n7.yaml or so | 13:06 |
| Sage | PartSize: 3000 | 13:06 |
| Sage | FileSystem: ext3 | 13:06 |
| kulve | Sage: it creates just a directory for me, no images or tarballs. So I just "du -sh /path/to/rootfs" | 13:07 |
| Sage | kulve: ah, so you should use raw instead of fs when creating the image | 13:07 |
| Sage | mic cr raw (not fs) | 13:07 |
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| Sage | raw has also partition table in it fs is just the files and without --pack-to it puts them to the output dir without tarball | 13:08 |
| kulve | I do want just a directory as I can't flash a filesystem image | 13:08 |
| kulve | well, actually I could. But I guess the image would be 14GB for 600MB of files so it would be just too slow.. | 13:09 |
| kulve | but the point is that adding @Nemo Complete to .ks doesn't include any files to my build.. | 13:10 |
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| Sage | ah, --pkgmgr=zypp | 13:11 |
| Sage | the yum is broken as hell and if the mic doesn't work out of the box take this https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=mic&project=Mer%3ATools%3ATesting | 13:12 |
| Sage | not sure when it ends up to the sdk | 13:16 |
| kulve | I get a python traceback with --pkgmgr=zypp | 13:16 |
| Sage | yes, so you need to update your mic | 13:17 |
| Sage | from the Mer:Tools:Testing | 13:17 |
| * Sage hopes that these steps are soon merged all in the sdk and stuff | 13:17 | |
| kulve | My sdk is a bit old already, so I'll upgrade that first | 13:18 |
| Sage | ah ok | 13:18 |
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| kulve | after upgrade I don't get the traceback anymore, but it just stops after printing "Info: zypp architecture is <armv7hl>".. | 13:26 |
| kulve | and I have mic-0.14-mer1.10.1.noarch | 13:33 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7617 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7617 | 13:36 |
| kulve | and now I can't create the image at all anymore: | 13:40 |
| kulve | NameError: global name 'ksconf' is not defined | 13:40 |
| Sage | hmmp... lbt phaeron: ^ what is the right mic version to have atm.? | 13:42 |
| sledges | Sage, Pandaboard: managed to reproduc same crash on top of mer-qmlviewer (added missing packages): report of flickr-qml and duicontrolpanel being launched from lipstick, showing their first screens then killing Xorg on Pandaboard: http://pastie.org/5654639 | 13:43 |
| Sage | check if the controlpanel launcher from cmdline without invoker | 13:43 |
| sledges | I believe if I'll install any other opengl-enabled app it will kill all, too (xterm works fine, since it just blobs itself on top of lipstick) | 13:43 |
| sledges | flickr-qml launched from cmdline segfaults | 13:43 |
| sledges | somehow noticed that things do improve if I let Xorg die once, then cmdline invokation runs fine | 13:44 |
| sledges | don't know why I'm getting the oom_* spits in dmesg (check the log) | 13:44 |
| Sage | that oom_ is reported thing I think | 13:46 |
| Sage | someone was looking it but he didn't have the hardware to reproduce at the end so not sure if it was verified working | 13:47 |
| sledges | I thought that the 'offending' app goes Out If Memory, hence the bit | 13:47 |
| sledges | *Of | 13:47 |
| sledges | tried `DISPLAY=:0 duicontrolpanel.launch` - Xorg shot themselves in the head the same way | 13:48 |
| sledges | kernel upgrade from upstream springs to mind.. | 13:48 |
| sledges | (also tried to upgrade pvr-omap4, to 1.9.., no luck) | 13:49 |
| sledges | is just the way mcompositor rapes opengl I think, | 13:49 |
| sledges | as I could successfully run flickr-qml as stand-alone app | 13:50 |
| sledges | but still whole Xorg should not go tits up, as mcompositor works fine on other devices (I might start doubting myself having said that eventually very regretfully) | 13:51 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7617 Accepted promotion request | 13:57 |
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| kulve | Sage: I created a new sdk to get to a knows state I updated it. E.g "zypper info mic" segfaults. I did manage to create my rootfs by addind the @Nemo Apps etc. groups invidually | 14:31 |
| phaeron | zypper segfault probably means you need to move to mer next | 14:33 |
| kulve | when mer next will be mer latest? | 14:36 |
| kulve | (and sorry for typos, I'm trying to irc from a train) | 14:37 |
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| phaeron | kulve: I don't know | 14:42 |
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| Sage | kulve: zypper segfaults means that zypper+libzypp+libsolv trio aren't proper versions atm. | 14:51 |
| Sage | kulve: you need to downgrage libsolv0 or upgrade zypper and libzypp | 14:52 |
| kulve | so current sdk is broken | 14:52 |
| Sage | apparently something is preventing of libzypp update (needs recompile) and libsolv is updated (abi break) and that causes segfault | 14:54 |
| kulve | well, I'm happy that I got my image built.. :) | 14:54 |
| Sage | hehe :) | 14:55 |
| kulve | but in general having broken sdk will annoy many.. | 14:55 |
| Sage | it is mainly broken thing in mer core actually | 14:55 |
| Sage | because that case can be caused also by users themselves by adding repository that has something that was built against old libzypp | 14:56 |
| * Sage takes a task to update those three components again | 14:57 | |
| phaeron | Sage: no it's python-zypp in mer:tools Ithink | 14:57 |
| Sage | phaeron: well, I mean that if users have extra repos installed that requires old libzypp it doesn't allow libzypp update | 14:57 |
| phaeron | yes and it's python-zypp from mer:tools causing that iirc | 14:58 |
| Sage | in kulve's case it was broken mer sdk but in my case it was something in my own repo | 14:58 |
| sledges | could help `/lastlog zypp` on #mer | 14:58 |
| Sage | phaeron: the point being that it shouldn't allow that update in any case in mer core level | 14:59 |
| Sage | it should say that can't install because of invalid deps or so | 14:59 |
| phaeron | in my case it did | 15:02 |
| Sage | ih my case it didn't :/ it just ignored the deps that couldn't be satisfied. Maybe difference between zypper up and zypper dup? | 15:04 |
| kulve | actually I think I saw a message that libzypp (iirc) won't be upgraded. But based on the comments above I think something else was still upgraded and hence the segfaults? | 15:04 |
| Sage | kulve: yes that is the problem as zypper wasn't upgraded | 15:04 |
| kulve | and now it's so broken that I can't even try to fix it manually :) | 15:05 |
| Sage | well, you can fix it manually | 15:05 |
| Sage | downgrade libsolv0 to older version or update zypper and libzypp to newer version | 15:05 |
| Sage | with rpm that is | 15:06 |
| kulve | I guess I'll do that before using the sdk more | 15:08 |
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| Sage | if you update you need to get also python-zypp that matches the version of libzypp or remove it (and mic with it) | 15:10 |
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| phaeron | Sage: why is python-zypp needed in mer-tools , I thought zypp-bindings in mer core produces that | 15:11 |
| Sage | phaeron: I have no idea about that | 15:14 |
| Sage | phaeron: there is no zypp-bindings in mer core | 15:14 |
| sledges | (whoops, #mer -related talk ;)) | 15:14 |
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| Sage | ;) | 15:16 |
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| phaeron | Sage: hmm , will check | 15:17 |
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| rabit | after successfully booting nemo on my n900 yesterday, i'm getting errors booting today | 15:50 |
| rabit | first it was the "unable to read bootmenu.scr" message. i rewrote the image to the sd card, since i thought that the image might have been corrupted. | 15:50 |
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| rabit | on the next boot i could select the sd card again, but the boot process froze after the blue mer logo screen appeared. | 15:51 |
| rabit | turned the device off again, and now i'm back to "unable to read bootmenu.scr". | 15:51 |
| rabit | when booting into maemo, i cannot format the sd card, with a "memory card unsupported error". what should i do next? the sd card is new and seems to be ok. | 15:53 |
| sledges | bad sd card? rabit | 15:53 |
| sledges | right, you could try comparing it file-by-file contents (using e.g. meld tool) to ensure data is written | 15:54 |
| sledges | needless to say, sync is in order | 15:54 |
| rabit | sledges: i'm going to test the sd card and make sure it's not corrupted. | 15:56 |
| sledges | okedoke | 15:57 |
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| rabit | sledges: how can i mount the n900 .raw image file to compare the files in the image with the sd card content? | 16:10 |
| sledges | you probably will fail in `mount image.raw /mnt/ -o loop` | 16:11 |
| sledges | but you can do `fdisk image.raw -l` | 16:11 |
| sledges | to figure out the offset for the rootfs partition | 16:11 |
| sledges | here's how: http://madduck.net/blog/2006.10.20:loop-mounting-partitions-from-a-disk-image/ | 16:13 |
| sledges | rabit, ^ | 16:13 |
| rabit | sledges: thanks, will try that. :-) | 16:14 |
| sledges | cheers :) | 16:17 |
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| sledges | Sage, a quick look at why this might | 16:53 |
| sledges | fail: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv8el&package=pvr-omap4&project=home%3Asledge%3Abranches%3Ahome%3Asage%3Abranches%3ACE%3AAdaptation%3APandaBoard&repository=get_3.7.1_kernel_here | 16:53 |
| sledges | ? | 16:53 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7623 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7623 | 16:58 |
| sledges | nm | 16:58 |
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| kulve | well, I got the nemo booted, but I guess the vkb just blanks the screen so it's hard to do anything with it | 17:33 |
| kulve | not sure if an USB keyboard would work | 17:33 |
| * sledges never had problems with USB keyboards, even on arm devices | 17:33 | |
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| sledges | safe to kill maliit ;) | 17:34 |
| sledges | kulve, is it on N7 ? | 17:34 |
| kulve | yes | 17:34 |
| sledges | blanking was an issue on x86, with mesa llvmpipes | 17:34 |
| sledges | but I think it resurfaced recently on arm (might be different cause) | 17:35 |
| kulve | yeah | 17:35 |
| sledges | is N7 -- a usb host ? | 17:35 |
| kulve | by default it's slave but I think I heard that somebody had keyboard working with it too | 17:36 |
| kulve | I haven't tried | 17:36 |
| sledges | maybe it's otg - so good to go :) | 17:36 |
| kulve | yeah, it should be otg | 17:42 |
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| rabit | sledges: managed to mount the root partition within the .raw image file with 'sudo mount -t ext4 -o loop,offset=512,ro,noexec nemo-handset-armv7hl-n900-0.20121101.1.NEMO.2012-11-08.1-mmcblk0p.raw ~/mnt' | 17:42 |
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| sledges | hurrah! :) | 17:43 |
| rabit | sledges: thanks for the hints to the solution! | 17:43 |
| sledges | anything to make it work ;) | 17:43 |
| sledges | you're welcome :) | 17:43 |
| rabit | sledges: For the raw image file, 'fdisk -lu' lists the partitions with the offsets for each partition. The offsets have to be multiplied with the sector size of 512 byte. | 17:46 |
| sledges | smashing :) just what the website said, I'm happy that worked | 17:47 |
| kulve | The .ks is here, if somebody wants to try: http://tuomas.kulve.fi/tmp/tablet-armv7hl-nexus7.ks | 17:47 |
| kulve | but do note the keyboard issue | 17:47 |
| sledges | nice, if only I had a N7 :) | 17:48 |
| kulve | also I'm not sure how the moslo kernel is supposed to start the real kernel, so I flashed the real kernel with fastboot after copying the rootfs | 17:48 |
| sledges | *an | 17:48 |
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| Sage | kulve: what is the issue with nemo keyboard on N7? | 18:15 |
| kulve | black screen | 18:18 |
| Sage | I think that is because of the graphics system thingy | 18:19 |
| M4rtinK | kulve: could that be related to the black screen in the VM ? | 18:19 |
| kulve | M4rtinK: could | 18:19 |
| M4rtinK | btw, whole screen black or just the par occupied by the keyboard ? | 18:19 |
| kulve | whole | 18:19 |
| M4rtinK | IIRC in VM the whole screen went black | 18:20 |
| M4rtinK | well, that could be similar | 18:20 |
| Sage | yes, it was fixed when adding the mesa swrast driver there, but for N7 that probably makes a bit harm as it doesn't use mesa in the first place ;) | 18:20 |
| kulve | yeah.. | 18:21 |
| Sage | kulve: try adding QT_DEFAULT_RUNTIME_SYSTEM= to /etc/sysconfig/nemo-mobile-hw | 18:21 |
| kulve | I have it | 18:22 |
| Sage | so empty value for it? | 18:22 |
| Sage | ok, well then nothign :) | 18:22 |
| kulve | ah, well, I can try that later | 18:22 |
| Sage | meego is the only one that work properly but that requires some egl extensions | 18:23 |
| kulve | tegra should have all the needed ones | 18:23 |
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| Sage | kulve: zypper install eglext-tests and check | 18:23 |
| kulve | although it would be nice to have an exact list :) | 18:23 |
| Stskeeps | some of them might be stupid nokia ones.. | 18:24 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:24 |
| Sage | yup :) | 18:24 |
| kulve | does that eglext-test test that the correct ones are found or only list them? | 18:24 |
| Sage | it tests them | 18:26 |
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| kulve | yeah, doesn't look too good realted to those extensions. At least EGL_NOK_image_shared, EGL_NOK_swap_region2 and EGL_KHR_lock_surface2 missing. There is EGL_KHR_lock_surface though | 20:08 |
| kulve | related | 20:08 |
| kulve | EGL_NOK_image_shared seems to be even in the spec but I couldn't find EGL_NOK_swap_region2 in there | 20:10 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 20:10 |
| kulve | any plans in supporting something more widely supported extensions? | 20:10 |
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| kulve | hmm.. EGL_NOK_image_shared seems to be used in Qt | 20:13 |
| kulve | Or not: "State changed from New to Rejected" | 20:13 |
| rcg | hey kulve | 20:15 |
| rcg | messing with nemo on nexus 7? | 20:15 |
| rcg | was also messing with opengl stuff in emumaster recently | 20:16 |
| rcg | do you require those extensions? | 20:16 |
| kulve | it seems that Mer(?) or at least Nemo is kind of expecting those. Maybe. Nobody really knows | 20:17 |
| rcg | hmm.. are they using custom shaders? | 20:17 |
| rcg | or at least something | 20:18 |
| rcg | :) | 20:18 |
| kulve | I guess most of those are related to swapping/sharing buffers in Qt/X11 environment using acceleration | 20:18 |
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| rcg | https://blog.qt.digia.com/blog/2011/06/03/threaded-opengl-in-4-8/ | 20:19 |
| rcg | jfyi | 20:19 |
| rcg | was reading that about an hour ago | 20:19 |
| sledges | rcg hi, hope you're in the field: any idea why everything dies after launcing any opengl-related app from lipstick on Pandaboard? http://pastie.org/5654639 | 20:24 |
| rcg | nope sorry.. am only an "interested amateur", so to speak | 20:26 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: stuff like theme, i think | 20:27 |
| sledges | well, probably due to the same EGL extensions... mcompositor makes PowerVR go nuts in that setting | 20:27 |
| rcg | sledges, does it work on other devices? | 20:28 |
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| rcg | what app is it? | 20:28 |
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| rcg | sledges, what app is it | 20:28 |
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| rcg | sledges, i could give it a try on an archos g9 and an nexus 7 | 20:29 |
| sledges | any app | 20:29 |
| sledges | duicontrolpanel, flickr-qml | 20:29 |
| sledges | is all Pandaboard related | 20:29 |
| rcg | hmm ic | 20:29 |
| sledges | g9 is sgx | 20:29 |
| sledges | sounds good | 20:29 |
| * sledges currently porting to linux-ti-omap4-3.4.23 and pvr-omap4-1.9.. | 20:30 | |
| sledges | ^ the pandaboard Mer HA that is | 20:30 |
| sledges | it works on N9 :))) | 20:31 |
| sledges | same .ks (as long as mer and nemo is concerned) | 20:31 |
| rcg | sledges, just tried it on archos g9 and flickr qml works | 20:31 |
| sledges | thanks | 20:31 |
| rcg | its an ti omap pvr | 20:32 |
| rcg | yw | 20:32 |
| sledges | so if it's nothing Pandaboard-specific, I could take g9 kernel+pvr adaptation and hope for best | 20:32 |
| rcg | sledges, hmmm.. don't know how much had been changed in the archos kernel | 20:33 |
| rcg | but on launchpad there are at least two different ubuntu kernels | 20:34 |
| rcg | for panda, i.e. | 20:34 |
| sledges | I'm taking from here: nothing panda specific: https://launchpad.net/~tiomap-dev/+archive/release/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=precise | 20:34 |
| rcg | https://launchpad.net/~tiomap-dev/+archive/release/+packages | 20:34 |
| rcg | yeah, there you have for precise and oneiric | 20:35 |
| sledges | ok, same source | 20:36 |
| sledges | but still nothing pandaboard specific, so I think they bet safe on omap4 kernel | 20:36 |
| sledges | I'm just re-using the .config from Sage | 20:36 |
| rcg | i thought this is the stuff for the ubuntu pandaboard adaptation? | 20:37 |
| sledges | rcg, have you got a link to a .ks for g9 you're using ? | 20:37 |
| rcg | http://share.basyskom.com/plasma-active/deployment/archos-gen9/tablet/mer/testing/weekly-pvr/ | 20:37 |
| rcg | but the pvr driver for the g9 is pretty old and the image is armv7l not hl | 20:37 |
| sledges | ok, using hl here though | 20:38 |
| sledges | anyway, I got packages building, but lost building pof omapdrm_pvr.ko (got deprecated?) | 20:38 |
| sledges | so trying to sort this out atm; thanks for the link! | 20:38 |
| sledges | well, that link is probably mainly intended for pandaboard, but see no reason why it wouldn't run on any other omap4 (haha :)), still nothing pb-specific on file naming | 20:39 |
| rcg | honestly, this whole omap stuff is a real pain | 20:39 |
| sledges | :) "nobody said it was easy" :)) | 20:39 |
| sledges | welcome to our world! | 20:39 |
| rcg | tried to update pvr drivers for archos g9 and to get hw-accel video to work but only thing i am really getting from this is gray hair :D | 20:40 |
| sledges | :DD | 20:40 |
| * sledges goes and counts grey hair.. amounts to 0. /me touches wood and tries to carry on :) | 20:40 | |
| rcg | ;) | 20:41 |
| Sage | special: ping :) | 20:44 |
| special | Sage: pong | 20:44 |
| Sage | special: there is also another bug in invoker that causes segfault | 20:44 |
| Sage | trying to launch invoker --type=q /usr/bin/duicontrolpanel.launch segfaults on exopc for me | 20:45 |
| Sage | and when running just /usr/bin/duicontrolpanel.launch it works fine | 20:45 |
| special | mmm | 20:45 |
| special | is it invoker segfaulting, or the boosted process? | 20:46 |
| Sage | also --type=e works | 20:46 |
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| Sage | duicontrolpanel is only one that is using --type=q | 20:46 |
| special | what about invoker --type=q on anything else (say, qmlcalc) | 20:47 |
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| Sage | seems to work | 20:48 |
| Sage | maybe it is the fact that duicontrolpanel is mtf based? | 20:48 |
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| special | hmm | 20:48 |
| special | it's strange, because the q booster is very simple | 20:48 |
| special | all it does is load Qt, nothing is created or initialized | 20:49 |
| special | also, --type=q duicontrolpanel.launch does work fine on n950 | 20:49 |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/5657033 | 20:50 |
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| Sage | maybe invoker fails to load the environment things properly? | 20:50 |
| Sage | or something? | 20:50 |
| special | then e should have the same problem | 20:51 |
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| special | that is very strange. So there's a problem setting up egl when launched via the Qt booster, but not when launched via other boosters, and it's only happening on duicontrolpanel (or meegotouch?) | 20:53 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: -next crashes with settings for me at least | 20:53 |
| special | that "forcing native graphicssystem" part could explain why it doesn't happen for non-meegotouch | 20:53 |
| kulve | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/Tegra3/Nexus7#Nemo_Mobile | 20:53 |
| Venemo_N9 | special, mtf booster was removed afaik, and maybe that has something to do with this | 20:54 |
| kulve | rcg: ^ | 20:55 |
| Stskeeps | ah.. | 20:55 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: on x86 ? | 20:55 |
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| Stskeeps | Venemo has a point | 20:55 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: yes | 20:55 |
| Sage | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=599 <- special | 20:55 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 599 in .Other "invoker segfaults when using --type=q for duicontrolpanel on x86" [Normal,New] | 20:55 |
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| special | Venemo_N9: yes, but there's no reason for that to make the Qt booster not work when the E booster does | 20:58 |
| special | the only difference between the two is that the Qt booster links to Qt. | 20:58 |
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| Sage | special: another thing is this assertion error that I've seen on other devices as well that do not have modems setup http://pastie.org/5657089 | 21:00 |
| rcg | kulve, i saw a similar black screen on keyboard prob once | 21:01 |
| rcg | i could solve it by tweaking some qml stuff | 21:01 |
| rcg | gimme a sec | 21:01 |
| rcg | a no.. the keyboard was displayed but with a black background covering the app... | 21:02 |
| rcg | https://build.merproject.org/package/view_file?file=nemo-qml-apps-for-plasma-active-hack.patch&package=qt-components-nemo-compatibility&project=home%3Awonko%3Apa%3Atesting&rev=de1c01790c91dccc627e8ef19d310970 | 21:02 |
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| Sage | special: not sure what kind of bugs should be filed about that as not sure if that is error in dbus, tp-ring, contactsd or something else | 21:03 |
| rcg | but you could give that patch a try anyhow | 21:03 |
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| special | Sage: huh. | 21:06 |
| special | Sage: the assertation is tp-ring, at least | 21:06 |
| special | I'm not sure what contactsd is trying to do | 21:06 |
| Sage | special: want to file bug about that ? | 21:07 |
| Sage | I've seen it on couple of different devices without modem at least. That one is from exopc. Probably in x86 vm same thing | 21:07 |
| special | why is ring installed if there's no modem? | 21:08 |
| kulve | if somebody happen to have all mer/nemo codes in an opengrok or something, he could find out if those Nokia EGL really are used somewhere (and write them to the wiki) | 21:09 |
| sledges | Sage, does Setting app appear at least on screen and then dies, or dies before showing up? (out of curiosity) | 21:09 |
| Sage | sledges: dies without showing anything | 21:09 |
| sledges | ok ta | 21:10 |
| Sage | special: well tp-ring is dragged in by voicecall and that is there because it is one of the default apps in nemo. :) | 21:10 |
| special | mm, that isn't ideal | 21:11 |
| rcg | kulve, it's a pretty long shot but could you give that patch a try? | 21:11 |
| special | if ring is installed, it will set up a telepathy account for itself, which means it'll be trying to connect at least occasionally | 21:11 |
| Sage | special: maybe ring should check if there is any modems on ofono before setting up the account? | 21:12 |
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| special | possible, if that can be done with a simple dbus call/signal | 21:13 |
| special | which I think it can | 21:13 |
| rcg | the keyboard on nemo is powered by maliit, right? | 21:15 |
| special | rcg: yes | 21:15 |
| rcg | alright, then it might be really worth to give that patch a try | 21:16 |
| rcg | still remains a pretty long shot though :) | 21:16 |
| special | what issues are you having? and this is nexus7, right? | 21:17 |
| rcg | kulve, has problems with the keyboard | 21:17 |
| rcg | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/Tegra3/Nexus7#Nemo_Mobile | 21:17 |
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| rcg | btw, any hint on this one: http://ruedigergad.com/2013/01/09/wanted-nexus-7-3g-linux-driver/ | 21:19 |
| rcg | unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be an easy way for accessing the nexus 7 hspa chip :/ | 21:19 |
| Jake9xx | sledges: (poked you on #mer") | 21:25 |
| sledges | Jake9xx, I'm on hunting a .ks file for ya ;) | 21:25 |
| Jake9xx | sledges: d**n this keyboard, so I was looking for latest ks for nemo on panda | 21:25 |
| Jake9xx | sledges: sweet :) | 21:25 |
| sledges | intensive work in progress there from my part, welcome to hell | 21:26 |
| sledges | :) | 21:26 |
| sledges | bleeding issues: pvr-omap4 adaptation: http://pastie.org/5654639 | 21:26 |
| sledges | opengl qml apps kill Xorg once launched from lipstick | 21:26 |
| Jake9xx | sledges: kill or lock? | 21:27 |
| sledges | kill | 21:27 |
| Jake9xx | nice | 21:27 |
| sledges | nothing in Xorg log file (see pastie) | 21:27 |
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| Jake9xx | you could run Xorg with strace ? | 21:28 |
| sledges | I referenced Sage's HA for Pb, with 3.0.4 kernel and 1.7..pvr-omap4, currently updating to 3.4.23 (from Precise's launchpad) and to 1.9.. pvr-omap4; packages ready will test tomorrow on HW (don'ŧ have here) | 21:28 |
| Jake9xx | or attach to it with strace -p <pid of Xorg> | 21:28 |
| sledges | hope updating will work | 21:28 |
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| Jake9xx | one q: are you on Pandaboard ES or std ? | 21:29 |
| sledges | from logs I believe it's pvr issue (all other rootfs elements are equivalent to e.g. updated Nemo on N9xx | 21:29 |
| sledges | std | 21:29 |
| Jake9xx | ok, me too so we can work together | 21:29 |
| sledges | splendid! | 21:29 |
| Jake9xx | just need the ks and it's rock and roll time | 21:30 |
| sledges | one more thing: it pays off to get rid of Nemo's stuff and build minimal lipstick on mer-qmlviewer ks instead | 21:30 |
| sledges | that's what I'm doing currently | 21:30 |
| Jake9xx | that would work as well | 21:30 |
| sledges | as full Nemo spits oom problems | 21:30 |
| sledges | (in addition, and randomly ;)) | 21:30 |
| Jake9xx | right now I have angstrom based poky running qt5 | 21:30 |
| Jake9xx | so I'm pretty much on different track ;) | 21:30 |
| sledges | sure ;) | 21:31 |
| Jake9xx | but that setup is from time I did not work on Mer | 21:31 |
| * Jake9xx is blowing dust off from PandaBoard | 21:31 | |
| sledges | poky on snowball you mean? | 21:32 |
| Jake9xx | no, panda | 21:33 |
| Jake9xx | it's a long story | 21:33 |
| sledges | ah, but managed to dust since :)) | 21:33 |
| sledges | ok, first of all ref kernel had to have CONFIG_CGROUP_SCHED injected, otherwise nemo's dbus won't start | 21:36 |
| sledges | cant remember exactly | 21:36 |
| sledges | (.ks coming up ;)) | 21:36 |
| Jake9xx | sweet! | 21:36 |
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| Jake9xx | CGROUP stuff we saw late last year too in some other project. It was funny because only like 3-4 days before the ks produced a bootable image and nothing had changed and then bang, boot halts | 21:37 |
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| sledges | Jake9xx, .ks: http://pastie.org/5657382 | 21:47 |
| Jake9xx | sledges: excellent, ty | 21:48 |
| sledges | had to recreate some bits from memory, shout if any errors (btw I do recommend going mer-bare way, if you bump there, can help too; don't have the notes now here with me, but will remember if you bump same stuff as I had to :)) | 21:48 |
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| Jake9xx | building... | 21:52 |
| Jake9xx | CGROUP stuff we saw late last year too in some other project. It was funny because only like 3-4 days before the ks produced a bootable image and nothing had changed and then bang, boot halts | 21:55 |
| Jake9xx | this keyboard is so toast | 21:55 |
| sledges | :)) | 21:55 |
| Jake9xx | anyway, I did not touch that ks , let's see what will be outcome | 21:56 |
| sledges | this _SCHED should be reflected in https://github.com/lbt/mer-kernel-check/ | 21:56 |
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| Jake9xx | /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/99-pvr.conf is missing but I got an image | 22:03 |
| Jake9xx | let's see | 22:03 |
| sledges | ignore that; it's about mouse cursor | 22:03 |
| sledges | when shown, makes screen flicker ugly (add to your bag of issues ;)) | 22:03 |
| sledges | (are you dd'ing it directly to SD card?) | 22:05 |
| Jake9xx | yes, what other options are there in panda? | 22:05 |
| Jake9xx | in snowball you can flash it with riff | 22:05 |
| sledges | I had to take Pb's SD card instead (partitioning myself did not work, as first partition starts at sector 32! even parted did not render it bootable), and overwrote its contents (namely using /boot partition only, as I run rootfs from a USB hardrive) | 22:06 |
| sledges | did not try raw .img though, so I'd just envy if dd'ing just worked for you Jake9xx :) | 22:09 |
| Jake9xx | dd worked :-) | 22:28 |
| Jake9xx | http://pastie.org/5657635 | 22:28 |
| Jake9xx | Xorg dies of course | 22:28 |
| Jake9xx | ran the mic inside Mer SDK if that's for any value | 22:28 |
| Jake9xx | I'll strip the ks a bit and run it again | 22:30 |
| sledges | Jake9xx, Xorg does not die on every boot, reboot and retry | 22:31 |
| sledges | i couldn't think of any other way of running mic :) | 22:31 |
| Jake9xx | actually Xorg restarts and remains open.. | 22:33 |
| Jake9xx | but my hdmi monitor tells me "out of range" on the screen params | 22:33 |
| sledges | I know, and then you can starts such things as `DISPLAY=:0 flickr-qml` | 22:33 |
| sledges | hmmmmm that does not happen to me, I am using HDMI->DVI adapter for my non-hdmi monitor | 22:34 |
| Jake9xx | lipstick's open as well :) | 22:34 |
| sledges | how'd you know that? | 22:34 |
| Jake9xx | and mcompositor | 22:34 |
| Jake9xx | there goes mcompositor | 22:34 |
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| Jake9xx | >bang< | 22:34 |
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| sledges | I stripped out these: @Nemo Middleware Shared @Nemo Apps @MTF Handset UX | 22:39 |
| sledges | and then once booted did this: | 22:40 |
| sledges | zypper in lipstick-color-home libdeclarative-sensors qt-components mapplauncherd | 22:40 |
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| sledges | if I did not leave anything out, this should get you going with lipstick at startup (automagically thanks to systemd), without theme wallpaper, so you should get black screen with transparent clock (lock screen) | 22:41 |
| sledges | then you install e.g. flickr-qml, reboot Pb, see flickr-qml on your homescreen, blind-click ;) on it and crash boom bang | 22:41 |
| Jake9xx | sledges: I'm still a bit off from getting to homescreen :) | 22:42 |
| sledges | once Xorg has restarted, can't trust it's behaviour anymore (symptoms change), so I rely on its first launch | 22:42 |
| Jake9xx | for some reason I don't think the 99-omap.conf is not right | 22:42 |
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| sledges | that one's about SWCursor only, I presume it's talking about mouse cursor and hence ignore it | 22:43 |
| sledges | there's 99-pvr iirc instead where you can chuck that in, but doubt about it solving the havoc | 22:43 |
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| Jake9xx | let's see. But now that it atleast boots it's time to boot to ubuntu on panda and see their xconfig | 22:46 |
| sledges | I have their image handy, could tell without booting :) | 22:47 |
| sledges | nothing omap/pvr related: 10-evdev.conf 11-evdev-trackpoint.conf 50-wacom.conf 11-evdev-quirks.conf 50-synaptics.conf 51-synaptics-quirks.conf | 22:48 |
| Jake9xx | ok | 22:49 |
| Jake9xx | hmm | 22:50 |
| sledges | (12.10 oneiric that is) | 22:50 |
| sledges | how crazy, /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/{ati_drv.so,fbdev_drv.so,mach64_drv.so,nouveau_drv.so,r128_drv.so,radeon_drv.so,vesa_drv.so} - where's omap? | 22:51 |
| Jake9xx | is that from some script? | 22:54 |
| Jake9xx | I can see omap_drv.so & omapo_pvr_drv.so in that dir | 22:54 |
| Jake9xx | anyways, time to zzz will look at this tomorrow morning | 22:54 |
| Jake9xx | sledges: tnx and let's sync tomorrow | 22:55 |
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| sledges | yup, catch up 2m ! thanks for joining the effort :) | 22:57 |
| sledges | Jake9xx, ^ (PS: it was on the mounted ubuntu-12.04-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+omap4.img hmmm) | 22:57 |
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| keithzg-mobile | I just asked in #jolla 'cause it came up, but this is obviously the more appropriate place to ask: what's the rotation support like right now with the Nexus 7 and Plasma Active? | 23:31 |
| keithzg-mobile | Have a spare Nexus 7 that has a cracked corner and thus a touch deadzone. | 23:32 |
| Jake9xx | sledges: had to hack it a bit.. | 23:32 |
| Jake9xx | http://pastie.org/5657933 | 23:32 |
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| Jake9xx | sledges: I think if we drop the bpp it should be better, plus looking at VSYNC params in kernel might help ; there's some flickering on screen when qmlcalc is used | 23:33 |
| Jake9xx | sledges: the issue I have is this: http://e2e.ti.com/support/dsp/omap_applications_processors/f/42/p/89071/312595.aspx#312595 | 23:33 |
| sledges | launching flickr-qml stand alone (and non-root ;)) worked like charm and no errors | 23:34 |
| sledges | I can 100% reproduce crash from within lipstick | 23:35 |
| Jake9xx | do you have debug symbols from omap_pvr.so ? | 23:35 |
| sledges | .ko ? | 23:35 |
| Jake9xx | so /usr/lib.. | 23:35 |
| sledges | check at my repo sledge:branches:sage... from ks | 23:36 |
| sledges | should be (under pvr-omap4) | 23:36 |
| Jake9xx | sledges: 10-4 | 23:37 |
| sledges | ah so y | 23:38 |
| Jake9xx | hmm cannot get qmlcalc to crash now | 23:39 |
| Jake9xx | this is one strange device :) | 23:39 |
| sledges | ah Jake9xx so you want to hook onto omapdss bits? | 23:40 |
| Jake9xx | yup | 23:40 |
| sledges | well, somethings fishy, and yet better to work on an isolated case with 100% crash reproducability | 23:40 |
| sledges | even then one app crashes in its way, the other in another | 23:41 |
| sledges | : http://pastie.org/5654639 | 23:41 |
| sledges | because in that isolated case lipstick runs crashlessly! so a good starting point | 23:42 |
| sledges | isolated case = mer-minimal(qmlviewer) + lipstick and its bare necessities . will provide you an out-of-box .ks tomorrow :) | 23:48 |
| Jake9xx | sledges: nice! I'll figure out how to attach the board to my network so I can access it from laptop, cheers. | 23:56 |
| sledges | with that ks - sshd starts right away, and dhcp picks up ethernet | 23:57 |
| * sledges zZzZ | 23:59 | |
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