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| kulve | anybody interested in building/testing nemo images for nexus 7? | 08:59 |
| jukkaeklund | kulve, testing yes! | 09:07 |
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| rcg | ah kulve, didn't see you here on irc :) | 09:19 |
| rcg | gotta chatch the bus but i might look into building an nemo image the weekend | 09:19 |
| kulve | rcg: I'm always in irc :) | 09:20 |
| rcg | :) | 09:20 |
| rcg | bbl | 09:20 |
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| jukkaeklund | rcg, kulve, ping me anytime for testing, got N7 sitting on idle | 09:31 |
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| kulve | one problem with the images would be the size. Where to upload? | 09:40 |
| kulve | dm8tbr had some place, iirc | 09:40 |
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| jukkaeklund | kulve, yeah http://images.formeego.org/ I think | 09:52 |
| kulve | I did earlier build nemo for n7 and it worked quite nicely, even if it had some windowing problems (which I think is a bug in nemo and not in the HA). HW accelerated video, 3d and window compositing worked. | 09:54 |
| jukkaeklund | wow | 09:56 |
| jukkaeklund | power of Mer | 09:56 |
| jukkaeklund | yeah I think Nemo still has those compositor bugs | 09:57 |
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| alterego | Sage: https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/7593 is stuck | 10:13 |
| phaeron | alterego: looking | 10:14 |
| alterego | Thanks phaeron :) | 10:18 |
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| dm8tbr | kulve: yes, still available. just msg me if you need space... | 10:22 |
| kulve | rcg: I patched the qt-mobility in tegra3:common as well to support selecting the sink (just a two-liner) | 10:22 |
| kulve | dm8tbr: thanks, will do | 10:22 |
| rcg | kulve, great :) | 10:23 |
| rcg | will try to take care to take the new packages when creating the new image | 10:23 |
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| Venemo | jukkaeklund, kulve: what kind of compositing bugs are those? | 10:26 |
| jukkaeklund | Venemo, black screen at least | 10:27 |
| kulve | Venemo: not compositing I guess but that not positioning the window correctly in all cases | 10:27 |
| kulve | ah, that black screen with keyboard was one annoying thing, yes | 10:27 |
| jukkaeklund | yep | 10:27 |
| Venemo | could you please file a bug report with the steps to reproduce? | 10:28 |
| jukkaeklund | its not seen with N9/N950 | 10:28 |
| jukkaeklund | I think there is a bug.. | 10:28 |
| Venemo | not seen with N9x0, that's weird | 10:28 |
| jukkaeklund | I'm waiting for latest image from sage | 10:28 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7593 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7593 | 10:28 |
| Venemo | allright | 10:28 |
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| phaeron | alterego: anything else stuck ? | 10:31 |
| alterego | phaeron: not from me | 10:37 |
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| VDVsx | w00t, you want to review as well, or can I just merge it: https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugins/pull/47 | 10:54 |
| w00t | I'll take matt's word for it :) | 10:54 |
| VDVsx | w00t, ok, thanks :) | 10:55 |
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| sledges | alterego, ringtones ftw! does it address .wav file locations and alsamixer settings issues? (listed in https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=593#c0 ) | 11:29 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 593 in Dialer "enabling ringtone disables other music playback" [Major,New] | 11:29 |
| alterego | sledges: it should address the alsamixer issues. | 11:31 |
| alterego | The file location for ringtones is now the same as harmattan until I introduce custom ringtones. | 11:31 |
| sledges | but this does not exist on my N9 Nemo: /usr/share/voicecall/sounds/ring-1.wav | 11:32 |
| sledges | (from voicecall-0.3.1.tar.gz/plugins/ngf/src/ngfringtoneplugin.cpp | 11:32 |
| alterego | So it should be under: /usr/share/sounds/darko/stereo/ring-1.wav | 11:32 |
| sledges | yes, though .cpp file points to the other one | 11:32 |
| alterego | sledges: yeah, ignore that, it still needs to be in /usr/share/sounds/darko/stereo/ring-1.wav | 11:32 |
| sledges | 8) ok, can't wait to test! :) | 11:32 |
| sledges | ah, because it's in the else { } statement ;) gotyou | 11:33 |
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| sledges | means it will fix file location issues as well ;) | 11:34 |
| alterego | sledges: no, it's just NGF strips the leading path and only uses the files' basename. It then looks for audio files under the /usr/share/sounds directory | 11:34 |
| alterego | I've fixed that line to just be "ring-1.wav" but it actually makes no difference. | 11:34 |
| sledges | can be that when I successfully enabled the ringtones, it was the alsamixer bit which did the job, and copying files around was irrelevant, can't remember now | 11:36 |
| sledges | well, at any rate thanks and keep up the good work! | 11:37 |
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| juiceme | What is the minimum kernel command line requirement for Nemo running on an N9? | 11:42 |
| sledges | juiceme, are you optimising? | 11:42 |
| juiceme | I would like to try running nemo from a chrooted directory (like "exec chroot /mnt/nemo /sbin/init" ... | 11:43 |
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| juiceme | well basically I just think I would like to try it without executing a new kernel, straight off a kernel booted on mt4 root | 11:44 |
| juiceme | So my question actually is, what parts of the Nemo that are started after /sbin/init require stuff on the command line, and what needs to be there in order for it to work correctly. I assume it needs at least mtdparts and IMEI, but what else? | 11:47 |
| sledges | well, I never tried chroot approach; just dedicated a partition and used MOSLO to dual boot | 11:48 |
| sledges | personally never thought the need of chroot (performance-wise) | 11:48 |
| alterego | Meh dual boot is for wimps, I just single boot :P | 11:49 |
| sledges | alterego, lol yes, I abused the term though ;) using single (non persistent) boot myself :P | 11:51 |
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| juiceme | Well, this relates to multiboot :) | 11:51 |
| juiceme | in this case, multi > 3 , at least :) | 11:51 |
| juiceme | And the reason I want to chroot is because the installation is a lot easier if there is no need to repartition mmcblk... | 11:52 |
| sledges | repartition is a one-off operation, make a backup if you're unsure | 11:53 |
| juiceme | about the performance, I am not really sure there is that much difference when running on chroot vs. raw partition | 11:54 |
| * sledges never tried so sadly can't tell | 11:55 | |
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| juiceme | well the problem is not just mine, I would like to make more or less foolproof way to install the multiboot environment. | 11:55 |
| sledges | multiboot=chroot in your case? | 11:56 |
| juiceme | well, I am chainloading from Nemo kernel, the 1st-boot filesystem is on mtd4:var partition and the next stages are booted from there via kexec() based on user selection. | 11:57 |
| juiceme | or, currently I am booting eithe Nitdroid kernel or Harmattan-almost-vanilla kernel | 11:58 |
| juiceme | I thought of chainloading also Nemo kernel the same way, via kexec, but then I thought why should I bother? | 11:59 |
| juiceme | as I am already running the Nemo kernel in 1st stage | 11:59 |
| juiceme | so, instead of reloading, maybe I could just chroot it to FS and run init...? | 11:59 |
| juiceme | But my problem currently is that the kernel command line is tailored to booting from ubifs partition, I am missing all the extra thingies NOLO normally feeds the kernel command line. | 12:01 |
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| juiceme | so maybe I just have to try it... See how far I get with my default commandline :) | 12:03 |
| sledges | sure :) | 12:05 |
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| juiceme | hmmh.. Tried to do it manually, "chroot /mnt/nemo ; /sbin/init" | 12:12 |
| juiceme | I get an error "Couldn't find an alternative telinit implementation to spawn." | 12:12 |
| juiceme | ? | 12:12 |
| juiceme | ahh dman | 12:13 |
| juiceme | I am already running init :( | 12:13 |
| juiceme | so cannot do it maually | 12:13 |
| juiceme | shame | 12:13 |
| juiceme | # | 12:13 |
| juiceme | # ps aux | grep init | 12:14 |
| juiceme | 1 0 0:00 {init} /bin/sh /init | 12:14 |
| juiceme | 103 0 0:00 {init} /bin/sh /init | 12:14 |
| juiceme | 355 0 0:00 grep init | 12:14 |
| juiceme | # | 12:14 |
| the-boss | juiceme: Error: "ps" is not a valid command. | 12:14 |
| juiceme | well, never tried it before :) | 12:14 |
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| M4rtinK | hi | 12:20 |
| M4rtinK | I'm trying to boot Nemo on my N950 using the dualboot method | 12:20 |
| M4rtinK | but I only get a black backlighted screen for about 20 seconds and then the device shuts down | 12:21 |
| M4rtinK | I'm using the latest Nemo image from November | 12:21 |
| M4rtinK | anything I should try ? :) | 12:21 |
| Hurrian | juiceme: ohai | 12:21 |
| sledges | M4rtinK how many times you tried? ;) | 12:21 |
| juiceme | oay, urroan :) | 12:21 |
| M4rtinK | about 4 times | 12:21 |
| M4rtinK | well, I can continue | 12:21 |
| juiceme | s/urroan/Hurrian | 12:22 |
| M4rtinK | but even with 50% chance it should already boot | 12:22 |
| Hurrian | juiceme, well then I guess kexec boot to Nemo isn't an option? | 12:22 |
| sledges | try reflashing again, sometimes it cleans the pipes (or do sudo meld /media/Alt_OS/ /nemo-extracted-img/) | 12:22 |
| Hurrian | Then again, only Android liked starting init not as PID 1 | 12:22 |
| juiceme | seems so | 12:23 |
| sledges | kexec from Harmattan to Nemo that is ;) MOSLO is doing nothing other than kexec | 12:23 |
| juiceme | yes... I did not think of the init already running there *sheepish* | 12:23 |
| juiceme | sledges, cannot kexec() from Harmattan | 12:24 |
| juiceme | well, not from the Nokia-kernel anyway | 12:24 |
| juiceme | that is why I do it the other way, kexec() from MOSLO to Harmattan | 12:25 |
| sledges | juiceme, gotyou | 12:25 |
| juiceme | ) | 12:26 |
| juiceme | :) | 12:26 |
| sledges | into harmattan with Nemo kernel | 12:26 |
| juiceme | So it looks like I have to work with partitions anyway | 12:26 |
| Hurrian | juiceme, got the fancy touch boot menu working? | 12:27 |
| juiceme | yes, but not fully 100% functionla yet | 12:27 |
| juiceme | I can boot 2nd stage to Nitroid on touch | 12:28 |
| juiceme | but Harmattan is trickier | 12:28 |
| Hurrian | juiceme, in case you haven't wrote your own parser for the boot menu: http://jk.ozlabs.org/projects/petitboot/ | 12:28 |
| juiceme | for some reason the same commands that work when I give them on console do not work correctly when executed from script | 12:29 |
| Hurrian | what that software basically does is parse a text file, present a menu, and whatever you chose, it kexec()'s to | 12:29 |
| Hurrian | juiceme: try "sleep 1" ? | 12:29 |
| juiceme | I have tried with different sleeps | 12:29 |
| juiceme | see, from the menu I do "kexec -l $commandline $kernel" | 12:30 |
| juiceme | then, if that goes correctly "kexec -e" | 12:30 |
| Hurrian | hmm, so it works when you enter it manually, but not from a script? | 12:30 |
| juiceme | yes | 12:31 |
| Hurrian | are you using absolute paths? | 12:31 |
| juiceme | I am quite sure it is not anything to do with delays | 12:31 |
| juiceme | yes | 12:31 |
| Hurrian | alright, that's weird | 12:31 |
| juiceme | well, even I can execute the menuscript, and then after touch-selection the script does the kexec-l part | 12:32 |
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| juiceme | afterthat, when I just execute kexec -e it boots correctly | 12:32 |
| juiceme | but if it's scripted, it will hang after boot | 12:32 |
| juiceme | Could be I have something wrong in my /sbin/preinit_harmattan , maybe | 12:33 |
| Hurrian | if it works directly from the shell and not a script it's the shell or some other boot component that's borked | 12:34 |
| Hurrian | hmm, it may have something to do with the amount of processes run (shell + kexec vs. shell + shell + kexec) | 12:34 |
| juiceme | but wy should it be sensitive to whether it has been executed from shell or from script, I have no idea... | 12:34 |
| juiceme | but, when kexec() is run, it should clean off all runnig processes, right? | 12:35 |
| Hurrian | I don't think kexec cleans up | 12:35 |
| Hurrian | IIRC it's up to you to clean up and shut down the system before you run kexec() | 12:35 |
| juiceme | hmm. there is fair amount of stuff running there | 12:36 |
| Hurrian | http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-kexec/index.html | 12:36 |
| Hurrian | The system will reboot immediately. Unlike the normal reboot process, kexec does not perform a clean shutdown of the system before rebooting. It is left to you to kill all applications and unmount file systems before attempting a kexec reboot. | 12:36 |
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| sledges | ps, M4rtinK does single boot work? | 12:37 |
| juiceme | I might need to try that... there is something like 50 processes up... | 12:38 |
| juiceme | most of them kernel processes anyway... nothing to do for those... | 12:39 |
| M4rtinK | sledges: running meld right now, as suggested | 12:40 |
| sledges | M4rtinK, yes, in case copying failed. will save you one rewrite NAND scrape :) | 12:42 |
| M4rtinK | most of the files are empty on the N950 for some reason :D | 12:42 |
| M4rtinK | I wondered why the copying is so fast :D | 12:43 |
| Hurrian | juiceme: try building a single binary that performs the kexec(), and exits after performing it | 12:43 |
| M4rtinK | I wonder how did that happen - I run that extraction command from the wiki, it only change was that it was outputting to /media/username/Alt_OS | 12:44 |
| M4rtinK | and now I used the same command to output the rootfs to local folder and they are not empy | 12:45 |
| M4rtinK | *empty | 12:45 |
| M4rtinK | maybe some weird flashdrive caching ? | 12:45 |
| sledges | M4rtinK, sync ? ;) | 12:45 |
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| M4rtinK | I kinda expected it always syncs by default on Linux :) | 12:46 |
| sledges | 8| | 12:46 |
| Hurrian | M4rtinK, not in my experience with the N900 and N9. | 12:46 |
| sledges | not on my one at least :) | 12:46 |
| M4rtinK | I've also unmounted it correctly | 12:46 |
| sledges | it syncs if you unmount it (has a window popped) | 12:46 |
| sledges | but I run sync beforehand just in case | 12:46 |
| sledges | dodgy USB cable? | 12:46 |
| M4rtinK | ok, I'll try that | 12:46 |
| Hurrian | nah, sometimes you just don't notice the high CPU load after the copy | 12:47 |
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| sledges | has anyone got an rsync script not to touch the files on Alt_OS that both exist and are identical ? | 12:47 |
| juiceme | OK letssee... biited it.. | 12:48 |
| juiceme | s/biited/booted | 12:48 |
| juiceme | nah | 12:48 |
| juiceme | jammed to the screen just saying "NOKIA" | 12:49 |
| Hurrian | juiceme, wait, you're trying to boot Nemo, right? | 12:49 |
| Hurrian | or was it Harmattan? | 12:50 |
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| juiceme | Whai I tried, added "killall syslogd" etc.. | 12:50 |
| juiceme | Harmattan this time | 12:50 |
| spiiroin | sledges: is it vfat fs? do you have: --modify-window=NUM compare mod-times with reduced accuracy | 12:50 |
| Hurrian | juiceme, you should probably compile kernel with framebuffer console | 12:51 |
| sledges | spiiroin, ext3 , just looking for a cmdline, haven't tried myself yet | 12:52 |
| juiceme | okay... but there's still no kbd :) | 12:52 |
| sledges | never been much of an rsync user either :) | 12:52 |
| juiceme | but I get the idea.. see the messages | 12:52 |
| juiceme | do you have any hunch what options to enable in conf? | 12:53 |
| juiceme | (never used fb console before) | 12:53 |
| juiceme | and I suppose I should somehow tell it where the screen fb is etc...? | 12:53 |
| Hurrian | juiceme, compile as module, and "modprobe fbcon" | 12:55 |
| M4rtinK | so now I just see some dangling symlinks | 12:55 |
| Hurrian | Just remember to rmmod it before the UI starts | 12:55 |
| Hurrian | oh wait, you don't need to rmmod it. | 12:55 |
| Hurrian | Oh, remember to build it in statically for the second stage kernel to see if it actually launches or not | 12:56 |
| juiceme | well I would need to make that on the 2nd-stage (harmattan) kernel, to see the boot messages, right? | 12:56 |
| juiceme | so it cannot be a module | 12:56 |
| juiceme | .. | 12:56 |
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| juiceme | btw, it worked just like before, after hanging I rebooted it to 1st stage kernel, then ran the script to "kexec -l" the harmattan kernel, and finallyy MANUALLY gave the "kexec -e" command and up it goes, no problem... | 12:58 |
| juiceme | woof.. almost 3'oclock already | 12:59 |
| sledges | M4rtinK, safe to ignore them | 12:59 |
| juiceme | hafta go home... :) | 12:59 |
| iekku | 7win 103 | 12:59 |
| M4rtinK | ok, now it boots | 13:00 |
| M4rtinK | thanks all ! :) | 13:00 |
| juiceme | Ya lucky, M4rtinK | 13:00 |
| sledges | M4rtinK, \o/ one more victory for Nemo ;) | 13:00 |
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| M4rtinK | hmm, its quite responsive on the N950 | 13:02 |
| M4rtinK | quite #unlike on the N900 :) | 13:02 |
| Hurrian | juiceme, hmm, on third thought just build harmattan kernel with fbcon static | 13:02 |
| Hurrian | oh, it works with kexec -e being put in by hand? | 13:03 |
| Hurrian | juiceme: dirty hack: pressing the item adds text to hidden console, another button sends Return | 13:04 |
| sledges | :) | 13:04 |
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| Hurrian | M4rtinK: all those Qt libraries have to weigh /something/ in RAM | 13:05 |
| M4rtinK | Hurrian: well, yeah | 13:06 |
| Morpog | kulve I can also test on my Nexus 7 | 13:07 |
| Hurrian | well, when juiceme wraps up his kexec bootloader, I'll once again have a Nemo machine | 13:07 |
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| juiceme | Hurrian, now i got it! | 13:27 |
| Hurrian | juiceme, what hack did you use this time? | 13:27 |
| juiceme | it has to be my pid | 13:27 |
| juiceme | see, when running from scfipt i am INIT=0 | 13:28 |
| juiceme | :) | 13:28 |
| Hurrian | ah | 13:28 |
| juiceme | has to be that | 13:29 |
| Hurrian | so, you're going to fork a separate script to do the kexec? | 13:29 |
| juiceme | whdn i give the command from console, i am child of telnet :) | 13:29 |
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| juiceme | yes! | 13:29 |
| juiceme | will try that later, now am on thee road | 13:30 |
| Hurrian | juiceme: ah, I'll keep an eye on the channel | 13:31 |
| juiceme | in train actually, 3g reception varies... | 13:31 |
| juiceme | l8er... | 13:31 |
| sledges | l8er | 13:32 |
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| sledges | does anyone know/ who owns NemoMobile twitter account? | 15:47 |
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| juiceme | nah, did not work :( | 16:59 |
| juiceme | and I was so sure about it | 16:59 |
| rozhkov | can somebody create bluetooth-qt repo at github? it seems its upstream is dead | 17:07 |
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| sledges | w00t, ^ | 17:59 |
| sledges | yet again rozhkov it will need a maintainer ;) | 17:59 |
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