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| Sage | morning and merry xmas time for all. | 09:33 |
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| iekku_ | Sage, same to you | 10:02 |
| iekku_ | (almost wrote "sane to you", which would be ok also) | 10:02 |
| romaxa_home | does anybody know how to make nfs mounting working on nemo? | 10:07 |
| romaxa_home | do I need to just download nfs-common package or similar? | 10:07 |
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| faenil | Merry Xmas everyone!! :) | 11:53 |
| fk_lx | Merry Xmas faenil | 12:01 |
| faenil | fk_lx, o/ | 12:01 |
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| rantom | Happy holidays | 13:02 |
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| okias | Hello | 19:01 |
| okias | can someone with lastest nemo version say, what is completly not working? | 19:01 |
| okias | As I understand nemo uses MeeGo + QT? right? | 19:02 |
| okias | for N900 | 19:03 |
| dm8tbr | mer+qt | 19:04 |
| okias | thanks, is anything from this not working (lastest release, git or svn or whatever): call,sms,gprs/edge/3g, gps, camera? | 19:06 |
| okias | and of course, 3d, but I guess it's old kernel with that blob... | 19:06 |
| romaxa_home | browser... | 19:07 |
| okias | romaxa_home: n900, only browser not work? | 19:08 |
| romaxa_home | haven't tested other things... working on browser now | 19:09 |
| okias | if everything work, I could install it and compile/package some apps for it | 19:09 |
| romaxa_home | okias: yep, you can defeinitely do that... still did not get how to enable nfs and oprofile | 19:10 |
| okias | romaxa_home: compile it in kernel? | 19:10 |
| okias | romaxa_home: install nfs-utils, and that's all? | 19:10 |
| okias | about oprofile, that could be harder | 19:10 |
| romaxa_home | 'nfs-utils' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. | 19:11 |
| okias | romaxa_home: I guess you have to crosscompile it ;-) | 19:11 |
| romaxa_home | okias: do you need manyally download package from somewhere? | 19:11 |
| romaxa_home | oh | 19:11 |
| okias | romaxa_home: I guess you can grab some maemo package... | 19:12 |
| okias | anyway, how much people work on nemo? | 19:12 |
| okias | http://maemo.org/packages/source/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_source/nfs-utils/1.1.1~git-20070709-3.0maemo4/ | 19:12 |
| romaxa_home | okias: http://jollatides.com/2012/11/21/jolla-keynote-speech-revisited/ ;0 | 19:14 |
| okias | romaxa_home: what's that, I have totally slow wifi right now... | 19:16 |
| okias | ? | 19:16 |
| romaxa_home | that is jolla presentation... | 19:22 |
| romaxa_home | also you can find list of developers in about product | 19:22 |
| Stskeeps | romaxa_home: i'll see what i can do on nfs, moment | 19:26 |
| romaxa_home | Stskeeps: where is the repo which is matches to http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/0.20121101.1.NEMO.2012-11-08.1/images/nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950/ image? extra packages debug packages, nfs, etc? | 19:29 |
| okias | romaxa_home: okey, I'll look at it in work. | 19:29 |
| okias | So if anybody use this on N900, please tell me what not working. I'd like to know, before I'll try it. | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | romaxa_home: not sure we have nfs anywhere, but for debug packages, enable in /etc/zypp/repos.d/mer-coresomething and enable=1 for debug part and zypper ref | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | romaxa_home: i'll get you some nfs packages for you to try | 19:30 |
| okias | anyway I'm interested, how much developers actively work on it... | 19:31 |
| Stskeeps | http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/0.20121101.1.NEMO.2012-11-08.1/images/nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950/nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950-0.20121101.1.NEMO.2012-11-08.1.ks lists the repos | 19:31 |
| Stskeeps | okias: middleware quite a fair bit, hardware adaptation for n950/n9 near to zero these days | 19:31 |
| Stskeeps | okias: ui it varies | 19:31 |
| okias | Stskeeps: and n900? | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | okias: nor n900 | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | so, hardware adaptation side isn't bound to improve immensely | 19:33 |
| Stskeeps | okias: try it out, if you like it, ok, if not, take out the sd card and never return to it | 19:33 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:33 |
| okias | Stskeeps: had to get some uSD card... | 19:33 |
| Stskeeps | it'll be useful for other things too | 19:34 |
| okias | Stskeeps: so trying get information first :P | 19:34 |
| okias | Stskeeps: I'd like to develop for n900, but maemo is not much fit for me | 19:34 |
| okias | Stskeeps: I'd rather use something more qt oriented... | 19:34 |
| okias | Stskeeps: but it has to be at least little bit working. Can't play much with major problems... | 19:35 |
| okias | Stskeeps: but I can fix small ones ;-) | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:36 |
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| okias | Martix: hi | 19:38 |
| Martix | okias: hi | 19:38 |
| okias | Martix: n900 with nemo? ;-) | 19:39 |
| Martix | excuse me? | 19:39 |
| okias | Martix: I see you here, so I guessing which phone you have :D | 19:40 |
| Martix | okias: I'm just lurking here for some months :-) | 19:42 |
| Martix | and I have N9 with Harmattan | 19:42 |
| Martix | blame M4rtinK | 19:43 |
| Martix | he forced me to join in first place :-D | 19:43 |
| okias | M4rtinK: ping | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | okias: go view videos of nemo mobile :) | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | or try it out, best way to get an experience of it | 19:46 |
| okias | Stskeeps: already checking ;-) | 19:46 |
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| okias | Okey, I'll get some microSD card and try it. Thank you. I try contribute as much as I can =) | 20:13 |
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| okias | any way, it's chance to integrate lipstick? I seen it on youtube and it look really great | 20:20 |
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| Stskeeps | lipstick runs the nemo homescreen | 20:31 |
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| okias | Stskeeps: great, thx! | 20:40 |
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| aggelos__ | hmm | 21:22 |
| Stskeeps | mm? | 21:23 |
| aggelos__ | is nemo fairly compatible to harmattan? i.e. any chance the mobile version of marble will compile? | 21:23 |
| Stskeeps | you could give it a try | 21:23 |
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| aggelos__ | sure. need to overcome the problems I've had w/ installing nemo on the n9, but that's what 29c3 is for I guess | 21:25 |
| * Sage tries another approach for building images | 21:31 | |
| * Sage installs sdk to his vpn vm and tries to build images there ;) | 21:31 | |
| Sage | the bad thing is this over 2000ms ping atm :P | 21:39 |
| phaeron | Sage: what's wrong with img.merproject ? | 21:41 |
| Sage | phaeron: I would like to build images locally anyway. But also to create nemo stuff I would like to get all 5 images build and published in same place | 21:44 |
| Sage | phaeron: I don't have access to img.merproject so that I could upload stuff from there to somewhere else et.c | 21:44 |
| Sage | I need place to upload stuff for nemo snapshots | 21:44 |
| Sage | phaeron: so if I could scp stuff from the img.merproject.org to server X then that would probably do. | 21:46 |
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| phaeron | I have no idea what you are asking for :D | 21:51 |
| Sage | I want to do thing like http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/0.20121101.1.NEMO.2012-11-08.1/ | 21:51 |
| phaeron | all 5 images build and publish ? build is different from publish | 21:51 |
| Sage | if I do it with img each is in separate dir and it is confusing to make snapshot mail with X different urls for differnet devices | 21:52 |
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| phaeron | Sage: that's what I am saying, build is different from publish. usually you build -> copy some where else | 21:52 |
| phaeron | maybe repo.maemo.org is no longer a good place to do so either | 21:53 |
| Sage | true but I don't have any other place | 21:53 |
| Sage | to which I have access to that is | 21:53 |
| Sage | img.merproject doesn't have zypper patches in apparently | 21:54 |
| phaeron | wasn't it part of the ongoing migration ? | 21:54 |
| phaeron | Sage: no it doesn't | 21:54 |
| phaeron | lbt is MIA :D | 21:54 |
| Sage | phaeron: it was? Oh, so repo.merproject.org is supposed to be new location for those as well? | 21:54 |
| phaeron | I hope so ;) | 21:55 |
| Sage | well, I don't have access to any of that stuff except the webui's so can't do anything about that myself. But that is ok for me. | 21:56 |
| Sage | Though imo we should change repo.merproject.org/x to repo.merproject.org/repositories/x or so probably or have another subdomain for releases like these? | 21:56 |
| Sage | MIA = Miami International Aiport? ;) | 21:56 |
| phaeron | Missing in action | 21:57 |
| okias | longterm - replace X11 with Wayland - did someone tested it? Wayland +Qt5.0 should be possible ;-) | 21:57 |
| Sage | ah | 21:57 |
| Sage | okias: there are people working on that yes. But it is not ready to use yet for nemo for example. | 21:57 |
| okias | Sage: yeah, I tested it on both x64 and it worked well | 21:58 |
| Sage | okias: nemo or wayland+qt5? :) | 21:59 |
| okias | Sage: I'll get 31.12. microSD card, so going to test nemo... do you have n900? | 21:59 |
| okias | Sage: wayland+qt5 ;-) | 21:59 |
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| Sage | okias: yes I have n900 | 21:59 |
| lbt | phaeron: pon | 21:59 |
| lbt | g | 21:59 |
| okias | Sage: thanks god for you!!! :)))) | 21:59 |
| okias | Sage: what doesn't work on it? | 21:59 |
| lbt | not MIA - just not chatting :) | 21:59 |
| phaeron | MIX missing in xmas | 22:00 |
| okias | Sage: i'm prepared to contribute to nemo (I like qt and n900) but I need at least basic (calls+sms+gprs (best edge+3g) and camera | 22:00 |
| lbt | :D | 22:00 |
| Sage | okias: well, calls, sms and gprs and camera should work | 22:01 |
| lbt | phaeron: did you want anything? | 22:01 |
| lbt | if not then I have mince pies to eat... and kittens to play with | 22:01 |
| Sage | okias: at least I haven't got any reports about those broken | 22:01 |
| okias | Sage: and what did you tested? | 22:01 |
| phaeron | lbt: we were wondering if sage can get access to img and a replacement for repository.maemo.org | 22:02 |
| phaeron | on the "new" infra | 22:02 |
| Sage | okias: well, I do't have normal sim or adapter atm. to test the cellular stuff, but people reported those working. Camera worked last time I tested. | 22:02 |
| lbt | phaeron: sure | 22:03 |
| okias | Sage: okey, that sounds like good base support, I guess that programs like videorecorder etc. wait to be written, right? | 22:03 |
| lbt | Sage: you should already have img access | 22:04 |
| lbt | phaeron: what is needed for repository? | 22:04 |
| Sage | lbt: I have access to web stuff yes | 22:05 |
| lbt | and you wanted shell access? | 22:05 |
| lbt | hmm | 22:05 |
| phaeron | lbt: diskspace and subdomain for nemo releases | 22:05 |
| phaeron | I guess | 22:05 |
| lbt | can anyone vouch for him? | 22:05 |
| phaeron | no, not me :D | 22:05 |
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| * phaeron gets a sneezing frenzy | 22:06 | |
| * lbt got some books | 22:06 | |
| lbt | Sage: I would like to extend IMG to "run a process" after making an image | 22:07 |
| lbt | and one of those would be something like "publish to public repo" | 22:07 |
| phaeron | lbt: processes are already overridable | 22:08 |
| phaeron | look at the config file | 22:08 |
| lbt | phaeron: yeah, I meant from the webui | 22:08 |
| phaeron | and read the docs | 22:08 |
| * phaeron ducks | 22:08 | |
| lbt | you can't change them from the webui though can you? | 22:08 |
| phaeron | send me a feature request :) | 22:09 |
| lbt | yeah - thought so - that's where I thought we were up to | 22:09 |
| lbt | I'm not sure if it should be an IMG extension though | 22:10 |
| phaeron | yeah the simplest is to override the process to call another service which decides | 22:10 |
| lbt | I'm more tempted to look at making some kind of generic rails/ruote process webui | 22:10 |
| phaeron | but we can discuss | 22:10 |
| Sage | In general I would like to enter url of package or repostiory where is image config package and img would do the rest ;) | 22:10 |
| * phaeron hides | 22:10 | |
| lbt | Sage: yes. | 22:11 |
| phaeron | too much xmas dreaming | 22:11 |
| lbt | phaeron: yep - but ruote-on-rails is kinda there | 22:11 |
| phaeron | that's already possible using a package of image configs | 22:11 |
| lbt | and I pushed for the SDK stuff to be in ruby for this reason | 22:11 |
| phaeron | ... | 22:12 |
| phaeron | good night | 22:12 |
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| Sage | :P | 22:13 |
| lbt | Sage: not today though :) | 22:13 |
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