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iekku_ | morning | 05:27 |
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the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7577 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7577 | 05:34 |
Sage | morning all | 05:38 |
special | morning | 05:39 |
Sage | special: isn't it like 10pm or something to you? :) | 05:42 |
special | well, yes | 05:43 |
Sage | :) | 05:45 |
Sage | special: then good evening/night to you ;) | 05:45 |
iekku_ | Sage, didn't you know that special is changing his rhythm to finn | 05:46 |
special | haha, I can't quite do the nocturnal lifestyle | 05:47 |
Sage | iekku_: oh, well I missed that one ;) | 05:48 |
Sage | special: so 13 hours more and then you ca go to sleep ;) | 05:48 |
special | hah, no | 05:49 |
special | I try to avoid 20 hour workdays | 05:49 |
iekku_ | special, you can do it! | 05:49 |
iekku_ | :P | 05:49 |
special | as entertaining as you all are, sleep has its benefits | 05:51 |
iekku_ | does it? | 05:52 |
Sage | special: like cutting off some of the work you would do otherwise? ;) | 05:52 |
special | Sage: indeed; without sleep, I could be much more productive, but grouchy as hell :p | 05:54 |
Sage | special: well you are so far away that grouchy wouldn't matter much to me though I don't have so much experience talking to grouchy people over the IRC so I might be wron ;) | 05:58 |
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romaxa_home | don't understand, why simple qt application which just scrolling static image does not do more than 5 fps hmm | 07:59 |
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special | romaxa_home: QML, or? | 08:02 |
kulve | is there a list of needed / recommended OpenGL ES / EGL extensions for Nemo UI? | 08:04 |
Stskeeps | romaxa_home: are you sshing in and running it? what does your 'env' say? | 08:05 |
special | kulve: interesting question. Take a look at what Qt will use | 08:05 |
kulve | special: there are other places as well. Especially the window manager needs extensions | 08:05 |
Stskeeps | generally it just needs the usual egl texture from pixmap stuff i think | 08:06 |
Stskeeps | and perhaps the fence stuff, which i'm not sure how works | 08:06 |
kulve | Stskeeps: the "usual egl texture from pixmap stuff" could be maybe expressed in the explicit extensions :) | 08:06 |
special | might also want to check themedaemon | 08:06 |
niqt | morning all | 08:06 |
Stskeeps | kulve: when i'm beyond my coffee :) | 08:07 |
kulve | Maybe I'll dig into that at some point | 08:07 |
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romaxa_home | special: both... if I do fillRect it does 60FPS if I call drawImage it is 6-8FPS | 08:11 |
romaxa_home | Stskeeps: ssh nemo@ip | 08:11 |
romaxa_home | Stskeeps: DISPLAY=:0 ./qt-example | 08:11 |
Stskeeps | romaxa_home: ok, and 'env' says? | 08:12 |
romaxa_home | one sec | 08:12 |
romaxa_home | booting into latest 50-0.20121101.1.NEMO.2012-11-08 image | 08:12 |
romaxa_home | Stskeeps: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2010979 | 08:18 |
Stskeeps | Sage: what was the qt runtime environment variables again? | 08:18 |
kulve | https://build.merproject.org/package/view_file?file=nemo-mobile-hw&package=configs-tegra3&project=nemo%3Adevel%3Ahw%3Anv%3Ategra3%3Acommon&rev=cd8f9291343001c2c5f6f6cf31533c31 | 08:19 |
kulve | Stskeeps: those I assume | 08:19 |
Stskeeps | romaxa_home: | 08:19 |
Stskeeps | export these two: | 08:20 |
Stskeeps | QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=runtime | 08:20 |
Stskeeps | QT_DEFAULT_RUNTIME_SYSTEM=opengl | 08:20 |
Stskeeps | actually | 08:20 |
Stskeeps | for second one, QT_DEFAULT_RUNTIME_SYSTEM=meego | 08:20 |
romaxa_home | Stskeeps: but it is already has these values by default | 08:23 |
Stskeeps | ah, damn | 08:24 |
Stskeeps | you're right | 08:24 |
Stskeeps | are you in a qopenglwidget? | 08:24 |
romaxa_home | yes | 08:25 |
romaxa_home | Stskeeps: here is the sources http://romaxa.info/tests/test_example.tar.gz | 08:28 |
romaxa_home | Stskeeps: running it from qterminal has same problem | 08:35 |
Stskeeps | this is on n900, n9? | 08:35 |
romaxa_home | Stskeeps: N9 | 08:36 |
Stskeeps | hmm | 08:36 |
Stskeeps | i'm not really much of a qt performance guy, so i'll have to let others look at it | 08:36 |
romaxa_home | seems other apps work much better... will try to find where is the diff | 08:37 |
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kulve | I wonder what it takes to be able to use the 3g in nexus7 with nemo (for data connection). | 09:17 |
Stskeeps | what modem is in there? | 09:18 |
kulve | "The chipset Intel (Infineon) XMM6260 is built-in on Nexus 7 3G (the same chipset is in that rather long list of phones). It means no hardware limitations." from xda-developers.com | 09:20 |
Stskeeps | hmmm. | 09:20 |
Stskeeps | i'd think ofono could deal with that.. | 09:21 |
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Sage | kulve: you have such device available? if so then use ofono-tests and there list-modems and check if it lists it | 09:44 |
Sage | there is some suppot to infineon modems in ofono already | 09:45 |
kulve | Sage: I don't unfortunately. I guess rcg has but he's more of a PA dude | 09:46 |
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rcg | just preparing the blog post to announce the pa n7 testing image | 10:04 |
rcg | am nearly finished | 10:04 |
rcg | just some more minutes ;) | 10:04 |
rcg | Sage, i have a 3g n7 here.. can test this then | 10:05 |
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the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7577 Accepted promotion request | 12:25 |
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the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7575 Accepted promotion request | 13:01 |
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the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7578 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7578 | 13:46 |
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sledges | I get Nemo splash screen on pandaboard, but Xorg fails to start | 14:02 |
sledges | when started manually from user nemo, starts fine, shows black screen, and from other consoles DISPLAY=:0 lipstick succeed - show locked screen and afterwards crash (Abort) | 14:03 |
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the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7578 Accepted promotion request | 14:10 |
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sledges | Sage, merry christmas :)) http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii567/sledgas/mer/nemo/12120096_zpsa70c26d6.jpg :) | 15:21 |
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Sage | sledges: nice, so the pvr package worked? | 15:32 |
Sage | sledges: did you need any modifications to the filesystem? | 15:33 |
Xruxa | man, the background image is one year old! | 15:33 |
Sage | Xruxa: hehe | 15:34 |
Xruxa | it was funny in summer, now it look proper :) | 15:35 |
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sledges | i liked the green one more :p | 15:41 |
sledges | this one is too contrasty and hence streaming into eyes | 15:41 |
sledges | Sage, yes, fully accelerated 1080p but there is a ti bug for this HD so crashes often | 15:41 |
sledges | will try 720p | 15:41 |
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sledges | Sage, Xorg does not start out-of-box, so lipstick was launched manually (systemctl --user start nemo-mobile-session.target returns "... /bin/false returned 1" and fails) | 15:42 |
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sledges | manually = DISPLAY=:0 lipstick | 15:46 |
sledges | :) | 15:46 |
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romaxa | Stskeeps: is there are any how to how to install oprofile on nemo? | 17:57 |
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Stskeeps | hmm, w00t found a way recently | 17:58 |
Stskeeps | but he's on his way to australia | 17:58 |
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romaxa | Stskeeps: ok | 17:59 |
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kulve | found a way to australia | 18:01 |
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rcg | australia? | 18:02 |
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rcg | sounds nice :) | 18:02 |
rcg | kulve, what do you do in australia? | 18:06 |
kulve | rcg: not me, w00t apparently | 18:06 |
Stskeeps | 18:57] <romaxa> Stskeeps: is there are any how to how to install oprofile on nemo? | 18:06 |
Stskeeps | [18:57] -!- rcg [~rcg@2a02:908:e250:6701:f1b7:f958:7f4a:d4a] has quit [Quit: Leaving] | 18:06 |
Stskeeps | [18:58] <Stskeeps> hmm, w00t found a way recently | 18:06 |
Stskeeps | [18:58] <Stskeeps> but he's on his way to australia | 18:06 |
kulve | Stskeeps: I always ignore joins and parts on popular channels.. :) | 18:06 |
Stskeeps | hehe | 18:07 |
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rcg | ah, right i see | 18:12 |
rcg | ;) | 18:12 |
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* lpotter gets crackin' on adding API to libconnman-qt | 20:03 | |
Stskeeps | lpotter: btw, i've put qt5 on zephyr:devel:mw on build.merproject.org | 20:04 |
Stskeeps | we can probably test the qt5 versions there | 20:04 |
lpotter | ok | 20:07 |
lpotter | the only real changes I had to do were with the qml 'test' app | 20:08 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 20:08 |
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lpotter | dont think I have a login there, and I can't sem to register. something about LDAP | 20:31 |
Stskeeps | it's the mer wiki login | 20:35 |
Stskeeps | / bugzilla | 20:35 |
lpotter | ahh. thanks | 20:36 |
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rcg | hey Venemo | 22:34 |
Venemo | hey rcg :) | 22:34 |
rcg | how's it going? | 22:34 |
Venemo | what's up? | 22:34 |
rcg | kulve, and me just "released" a first version of an hardware-adaptation for nexus 7 :) | 22:34 |
rcg | specifically for plasma active | 22:35 |
rcg | but generally, it should also work with nemo too | 22:35 |
Venemo | I'm fine :) things are going quite well for me | 22:37 |
Venemo | but I have limited free time | 22:37 |
rcg | great :) | 22:37 |
rcg | i see... my schedule is also pretty full :/ | 22:37 |
rcg | i hope you can get a little free time during the upcoming holidays? | 22:38 |
Venemo | I intend to, yes | 22:39 |
Venemo | :) | 22:39 |
Venemo | and how are you? | 22:40 |
rcg | good :) | 22:40 |
rcg | also pretty busy... just moved into a new flat | 22:40 |
rcg | i'll try to also take a little free time but i also want to proceed with my research for my phd | 22:41 |
qwazix | rcg, hi! | 22:41 |
qwazix | Stskeeps told me you did some work for running mer on the Nexus 7 | 22:42 |
rcg | hey qwazix | 22:43 |
qwazix | do you have any image or something relatively easy to try? | 22:43 |
rcg | actually kulve and me | 22:43 |
qwazix | (I'm not so competent at low-level things) | 22:43 |
rcg | http://ruedigergad.com/2012/12/21/plasma-active-for-nexus-7-running-the-touch-optimized-plasma-active-linux-distribution-on-nexus-7/ | 22:43 |
rcg | should be just what you want ;) | 22:43 |
Venemo | hmhm | 22:44 |
Venemo | when it's working maybe I'll get a nexus7 too, for this | 22:44 |
qwazix | I asked just on time, it seems :) | 22:44 |
rcg | i'd say it's about on-par with how plasma active works in archos g9 | 22:45 |
rcg | there is a guy writing comments to my blog post where he mentions things which work and which don't work. maybe this can give you a better impression of the current state | 22:45 |
Venemo | rcg: oooo, that much crappy? | 22:47 |
Venemo | :( | 22:47 |
rcg | actually 3d-acceleration works | 22:48 |
Venemo | so what doesn't work? | 22:48 |
rcg | and i think kulve has something in the works to get video playback acceleration working as well | 22:48 |
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qwazix | Now what are the chances it'll work on a non-3g 32gb... | 22:49 |
qwazix | I guess I'll find out | 22:49 |
rcg | the windowmanager or how it is called seems to use only software rendering.. or at least for some parts/effects | 22:49 |
rcg | qwazix, i tried it on and 8gb and a 3g model | 22:50 |
qwazix | Yes I read that, that's why I'm wondering | 22:50 |
rcg | what i can tell the 3g model has some issues with booting from moslo to plasma active via kexec | 22:50 |
Venemo | how is the battery life? | 22:51 |
rcg | but that shouldn't be a show stopper | 22:51 |
Venemo | on the Nexus 7 on Mer? | 22:51 |
qwazix | also, maybe I didn't read carefully enough, but does this procedure wipe android? | 22:51 |
rcg | Venemo, i think it's good | 22:51 |
Venemo | rcg: define good | 22:51 |
rcg | and also charging via usb works | 22:51 |
Venemo | nice. battery display too? | 22:52 |
rcg | well, i regularly hack on the device and keep it suspended otherwise and usually recharge every 2-3 day or so | 22:52 |
rcg | but i actually didn't do any hard measurements | 22:52 |
rcg | this guy commenting on my blog says there are some issues with charging but i cannot confirm these issues | 22:53 |
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Venemo | mhmm | 22:54 |
Venemo | allright | 22:54 |
rcg | but you still have to be an enthusiast to actually use it on a daily basis i'd say ;) | 22:54 |
qwazix | so getting nemo on it should be like adding the correct repos and installing packages? | 22:55 |
rcg | personally i am very happy with it as i can have a "real" linux tablet with me on a daily basis | 22:55 |
rcg | qwazix, i don't know.. maybe ask kulve as he did some experiments with nemo | 22:55 |
qwazix | ok | 22:55 |
rcg | but generally it should be possible | 22:55 |
rcg | my approach to get plasma active running was to create an "image" for nexus 7 based on one of the archos g9 images | 22:56 |
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rcg | for this i used the .ks file and added the nexus 7 hw-adaptation | 22:56 |
rcg | i assume you could do something similar for nemo | 22:56 |
rcg | Venemo, i think we also already talked about plasma active on archos g9 | 22:57 |
rcg | on nexus 7 it is more or less the same state.. maybe even a bit worse at the moment | 22:57 |
rcg | otoh, on nexus7 we have working 3d-acceleration _and_ working suspend resume... which i am not sure we can get on archos g9 at all | 22:58 |
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qwazix | have to go. G'night | 23:01 |
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Venemo | rcg: yeah, we have, and IIRC it was not very nice | 23:21 |
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rcg | Venemo, right, then i assume that plasma active on nexus 7 is also not what you want at the moment ;) | 23:38 |
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