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iekku_morning05:27
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7577 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/757705:34
Sagemorning all05:38
specialmorning05:39
Sagespecial: isn't it like 10pm or something to you? :)05:42
specialwell, yes05:43
Sage:)05:45
Sagespecial: then good evening/night to you ;)05:45
iekku_Sage, didn't you know that special is changing his rhythm to finn05:46
specialhaha, I can't quite do the nocturnal lifestyle05:47
Sageiekku_: oh, well I missed that one ;)05:48
Sagespecial: so 13 hours more and then you ca go to sleep ;)05:48
specialhah, no05:49
specialI try to avoid 20 hour workdays05:49
iekku_special, you can do it!05:49
iekku_:P05:49
specialas entertaining as you all are, sleep has its benefits05:51
iekku_does it?05:52
Sagespecial: like cutting off some of the work you would do otherwise? ;)05:52
specialSage: indeed; without sleep, I could be much more productive, but grouchy as hell :p05:54
Sagespecial: well you are so far away that grouchy wouldn't matter much to me though I don't have so much experience talking to grouchy people over the IRC so I might be wron ;)05:58
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romaxa_homedon't understand, why simple qt application which just scrolling static image does not do more than 5 fps hmm07:59
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specialromaxa_home: QML, or?08:02
kulveis there a list of needed / recommended OpenGL ES / EGL extensions for Nemo UI?08:04
Stskeepsromaxa_home: are you sshing in and running it? what does your 'env' say?08:05
specialkulve: interesting question. Take a look at what Qt will use08:05
kulvespecial: there are other places as well. Especially the window manager needs extensions08:05
Stskeepsgenerally it just needs the usual egl texture from pixmap stuff i think08:06
Stskeepsand perhaps the fence stuff, which i'm not sure how works08:06
kulveStskeeps: the "usual egl texture from pixmap stuff" could be maybe expressed in the explicit extensions :)08:06
specialmight also want to check themedaemon08:06
niqtmorning all08:06
Stskeepskulve: when i'm beyond my coffee :)08:07
kulveMaybe I'll dig into that at some point08:07
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romaxa_homespecial: both... if I do fillRect it does 60FPS if I call drawImage it is 6-8FPS08:11
romaxa_homeStskeeps: ssh nemo@ip08:11
romaxa_homeStskeeps: DISPLAY=:0 ./qt-example08:11
Stskeepsromaxa_home: ok, and 'env' says?08:12
romaxa_homeone sec08:12
romaxa_homebooting into latest 50-0.20121101.1.NEMO.2012-11-08 image08:12
romaxa_homeStskeeps: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/201097908:18
StskeepsSage: what was the qt runtime environment variables again?08:18
kulvehttps://build.merproject.org/package/view_file?file=nemo-mobile-hw&package=configs-tegra3&project=nemo%3Adevel%3Ahw%3Anv%3Ategra3%3Acommon&rev=cd8f9291343001c2c5f6f6cf31533c3108:19
kulveStskeeps: those I assume08:19
Stskeepsromaxa_home:08:19
Stskeepsexport these two:08:20
StskeepsQT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=runtime08:20
StskeepsQT_DEFAULT_RUNTIME_SYSTEM=opengl08:20
Stskeepsactually08:20
Stskeepsfor second one, QT_DEFAULT_RUNTIME_SYSTEM=meego08:20
romaxa_homeStskeeps: but it is already has these values by default08:23
Stskeepsah, damn08:24
Stskeepsyou're right08:24
Stskeepsare you in a qopenglwidget?08:24
romaxa_homeyes08:25
romaxa_homeStskeeps: here is the sources http://romaxa.info/tests/test_example.tar.gz08:28
romaxa_homeStskeeps: running it from qterminal has same problem08:35
Stskeepsthis is on n900, n9?08:35
romaxa_homeStskeeps: N908:36
Stskeepshmm08:36
Stskeepsi'm not really much of a qt performance guy, so i'll have to let others look at it08:36
romaxa_homeseems other apps work much better... will try to find where is the diff08:37
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kulveI wonder what it takes to be able to use the 3g in nexus7 with nemo (for data connection).09:17
Stskeepswhat modem is in there?09:18
kulve"The chipset Intel (Infineon) XMM6260 is built-in on Nexus 7 3G (the same chipset is in that rather long list of phones). It means no hardware limitations." from xda-developers.com09:20
Stskeepshmmm.09:20
Stskeepsi'd think ofono could deal with that..09:21
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Sagekulve: you have such device available? if so then use ofono-tests and there list-modems and check if it lists it09:44
Sagethere is some suppot to infineon modems in ofono already09:45
kulveSage: I don't unfortunately. I guess rcg has but he's more of a PA dude09:46
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rcgjust preparing the blog post to announce the pa n7 testing image10:04
rcgam nearly finished10:04
rcgjust some more minutes ;)10:04
rcgSage, i have a 3g n7 here.. can test this then10:05
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7577 Accepted promotion request12:25
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7575 Accepted promotion request13:01
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7578 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/757813:46
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sledgesI get Nemo splash screen on pandaboard, but Xorg fails to start14:02
sledgeswhen started manually from user nemo, starts fine, shows black screen, and from other consoles DISPLAY=:0 lipstick succeed - show locked screen and afterwards crash (Abort)14:03
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7578 Accepted promotion request14:10
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sledgesSage, merry christmas :)) http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii567/sledgas/mer/nemo/12120096_zpsa70c26d6.jpg :)15:21
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Sagesledges: nice, so the pvr package worked?15:32
Sagesledges: did you need any modifications to the filesystem?15:33
Xruxaman, the background image is one year old!15:33
SageXruxa: hehe15:34
Xruxait was funny in summer, now it look proper :)15:35
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sledgesi liked the green one more :p15:41
sledgesthis one is too contrasty and hence streaming into eyes15:41
sledgesSage, yes, fully accelerated 1080p but there is a ti bug for this HD so crashes often15:41
sledgeswill try 720p15:41
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sledgesSage, Xorg does not start out-of-box, so lipstick was launched manually (systemctl --user start nemo-mobile-session.target returns "... /bin/false returned 1" and fails)15:42
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sledgesmanually = DISPLAY=:0 lipstick15:46
sledges:)15:46
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romaxaStskeeps: is there are any how to how to install oprofile on nemo?17:57
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Stskeepshmm, w00t found a way recently17:58
Stskeepsbut he's on his way to australia17:58
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romaxaStskeeps: ok17:59
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kulvefound a way to australia18:01
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rcgaustralia?18:02
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rcgsounds nice :)18:02
rcgkulve, what do you do in australia?18:06
kulvercg: not me, w00t apparently18:06
Stskeeps18:57] <romaxa> Stskeeps: is there are any how to how to install oprofile on nemo?18:06
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Stskeeps[18:58] <Stskeeps> hmm, w00t found a way recently18:06
Stskeeps[18:58] <Stskeeps> but he's on his way to australia18:06
kulveStskeeps: I always ignore joins and parts on popular channels.. :)18:06
Stskeepshehe18:07
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rcgah, right i see18:12
rcg;)18:12
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* lpotter gets crackin' on adding API to libconnman-qt20:03
Stskeepslpotter: btw, i've put qt5 on zephyr:devel:mw on build.merproject.org20:04
Stskeepswe can probably test the qt5 versions there20:04
lpotterok20:07
lpotterthe only real changes I had to do were with the qml 'test' app20:08
Stskeeps:nod:20:08
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lpotterdont think I have a login there, and I can't sem to register. something about LDAP20:31
Stskeepsit's the mer wiki login20:35
Stskeeps / bugzilla20:35
lpotterahh. thanks20:36
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rcghey Venemo22:34
Venemohey rcg  :)22:34
rcghow's it going?22:34
Venemowhat's up?22:34
rcgkulve, and me just "released" a first version of an hardware-adaptation for nexus 7 :)22:34
rcgspecifically for plasma active22:35
rcgbut generally, it should also work with nemo too22:35
VenemoI'm fine :) things are going quite well for me22:37
Venemobut I have limited free time22:37
rcggreat :)22:37
rcgi see... my schedule is also pretty full :/22:37
rcgi hope you can get a little free time during the upcoming holidays?22:38
VenemoI intend to, yes22:39
Venemo:)22:39
Venemoand how are you?22:40
rcggood :)22:40
rcgalso pretty busy... just moved into a new flat22:40
rcgi'll try to also take a little free time but i also want to proceed with my research for my phd22:41
qwazixrcg, hi!22:41
qwazixStskeeps told me you did some work for running mer on the Nexus 722:42
rcghey qwazix22:43
qwazixdo you have any image or something relatively easy to try?22:43
rcgactually kulve and me22:43
qwazix(I'm not so competent at low-level things)22:43
rcghttp://ruedigergad.com/2012/12/21/plasma-active-for-nexus-7-running-the-touch-optimized-plasma-active-linux-distribution-on-nexus-7/22:43
rcgshould be just what you want ;)22:43
Venemohmhm22:44
Venemowhen it's working maybe I'll get a nexus7 too, for this22:44
qwazixI asked just on time, it seems :)22:44
rcgi'd say it's about on-par with how plasma active works in archos g922:45
rcgthere is a guy writing comments to my blog post where he mentions things which work and which don't work. maybe this can give you a better impression of the current state22:45
Venemorcg: oooo, that much crappy?22:47
Venemo:(22:47
rcgactually 3d-acceleration works22:48
Venemoso what doesn't work?22:48
rcgand i think kulve has something in the works to get video playback acceleration working as well22:48
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qwazixNow what are the chances it'll work on a non-3g 32gb...22:49
qwazixI guess I'll find out22:49
rcgthe windowmanager or how it is called seems to use only software rendering.. or at least for some parts/effects22:49
rcgqwazix, i tried it on and 8gb and a 3g model22:50
qwazixYes I read that, that's why I'm wondering22:50
rcgwhat i can tell the 3g model has some issues with booting from moslo to plasma active via kexec22:50
Venemohow is the battery life?22:51
rcgbut that shouldn't be a show stopper22:51
Venemoon the Nexus 7 on Mer?22:51
qwazixalso, maybe I didn't read carefully enough, but does this procedure wipe android?22:51
rcgVenemo, i think it's good22:51
Venemorcg: define good22:51
rcgand also charging via usb works22:51
Venemonice. battery display too?22:52
rcgwell, i regularly hack on the device and keep it suspended otherwise and usually recharge every 2-3 day or so22:52
rcgbut i actually didn't do any hard measurements22:52
rcgthis guy commenting on my blog says there are some issues with charging but i cannot confirm these issues22:53
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Venemomhmm22:54
Venemoallright22:54
rcgbut you still have to be an enthusiast to actually use it on a daily basis i'd say ;)22:54
qwazixso getting nemo on it should be like adding the correct repos and installing packages?22:55
rcgpersonally i am very happy with it as i can have a "real" linux tablet with me on a daily basis22:55
rcgqwazix, i don't know.. maybe ask kulve as he did some experiments with nemo22:55
qwazixok22:55
rcgbut generally it should be possible22:55
rcgmy approach to get plasma active running was to create an "image" for nexus 7 based on one of the archos g9 images22:56
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rcgfor this i used the .ks file and added the nexus 7 hw-adaptation22:56
rcgi assume you could do something similar for nemo22:56
rcgVenemo, i think we also already talked about plasma active on archos g922:57
rcgon nexus 7 it is more or less the same state.. maybe even a bit worse at the moment22:57
rcgotoh, on nexus7 we have working 3d-acceleration _and_ working suspend resume... which i am not sure we can get on archos g9 at all22:58
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qwazixhave to go. G'night23:01
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Venemorcg: yeah, we have, and IIRC it was not very nice23:21
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rcgVenemo, right, then i assume that plasma active on nexus 7 is also not what you want at the moment ;)23:38
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