#nemomobile log for Thursday, 2012-11-22

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faenilw00t, ping00:01
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faenilw00t, come on I don't believe you're sleeping :P00:09
faenilcya tomorrow at slush people! :D00:09
faeniljust built Sailfish Creator :P00:09
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7432 Rejected promotion request00:43
M4rtinKyep, I meant the environment - so that my applications for example can apply any platform dependent tweaks & use the correct GUI :)00:46
M4rtinKthis is mostly a service for people who would run the app without installing, as normally the startup script/desktop file from the package would contain hardcoded platform & GUI selection00:48
phaeronin nemo systemd user session is used and it tries to set up the correct env00:49
phaeronbut that still might not be what you are asking for00:51
M4rtinKhmm, this might do:00:53
M4rtinK[nemo@localhost ~]$ uname -r00:53
M4rtinK2.6.37-12.6.Nemo.Adaptation.N900-adaptation-n90000:53
M4rtinKBTW, the N900 is also correctly defined in /proc/cpuinfo as "Nokia RX-51 board"00:55
phaeronnot sure what you want to achieve with the kernel name00:56
phaeronM4rtinK: but look into the boardname tool00:56
phaeronit tries to provide the name of the hardware platform reliably00:56
M4rtinKwell, I can just check if it contains Nemo - yeah, its quite a hack :)00:56
M4rtinKphaeron: how do I use it ?01:02
M4rtinKI see it is already installed & it seems to be some sort of a service/daemon01:02
phaeronjust run boardname on the command line afair01:03
M4rtinKbut there is nothing called boardname in PATH and no obvious nodes in /proc01:03
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M4rtinK[nemo@localhost ~]$ boardname01:03
M4rtinK-bash: boardname: command not found01:03
M4rtinKguess I'll have to fill a bug on this :)01:04
[ol]sudo zypper in boardname01:05
M4rtinKalready installed:01:05
M4rtinK[root@localhost nemo]# zypper in boardname01:05
M4rtinKLoading repository data...01:05
M4rtinKReading installed packages...01:05
M4rtinK'boardname' is already installed.01:05
M4rtinKNo update candidate for 'boardname-0.7-1.12.armv7hl'. The highest available version is already installed.01:05
M4rtinKResolving package dependencies...01:05
M4rtinKNothing to do.01:05
[ol] /sbin/boardname01:07
M4rtinKyeah, that works01:08
M4rtinK[nemo@localhost ~]$ /sbin/boardname01:08
M4rtinKarm_nokia_rx_51_board_210101:08
M4rtinKso is this intended behaviour or is it a bug that boardname is not in path ?01:09
[ol]Usually /sbin and /usr/sbin are separated from /bin and /usr/bin because they contain utilities for system management, which are not needed for regular users.01:11
M4rtinKso basically the question is in which category boardname falls :)01:14
M4rtinKbtw, the wiki just mentions the boardname command without saying it should be run with the absolute path: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide/Step_by_step01:16
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[ol]It seems to me that this Wiki page references boardname as utility (or package), not command name.01:20
M4rtinKok then :) still I think some more documentation what boardname is and how it could be used would not hurt IMO01:23
M4rtinKfor example the package description on COBS just says "boardname"01:23
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phaeronyeah the idea is to have some utility to properly do that kind thing. imho eventually standard QT sysinfo stuff would just work01:30
phaeron(and sorry about missing /sbin , I usually su -01:30
M4rtinKnp :)01:33
M4rtinKanyway, time to hit the deck - good night everyone ! :)01:34
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7433 Rejected promotion request01:57
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7434 Rejected promotion request03:32
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7435 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/743513:01
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Wizzup__just wondering, want to have a look at nemo again, I want to install it on an external sd card and then boot it once with flasher, this should be possible, no?14:01
Wizzup__The wiki doesn't really mention it as an option14:02
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panjgoorihello. im trying to update nemo via its app manager but its giving me error.14:07
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panjgoorianyone ?14:08
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sledgesthe error being? ;)14:09
panjgoorithank for the reply. now doing it via terminal14:16
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panjgooriit was something like transaction failed- user aborted14:17
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sledgesbest to update is via screen and ssh14:21
sledgesas during update Xorg gets restarted and connectivity is briefly lost14:21
sledgesoops, the fellow is gone, probably did not read the above :)14:22
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Khertan_n130sledges, and it s well explain in the wiki14:45
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sledgesapparently I never read that either :D14:55
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sledgestook me 3 minutes to find nemo image link in that wiki..14:55
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khertanwhouou15:50
khertanhello all15:50
khertani ll need some help installing nemo on an n95015:50
khertanfirst step give me error :)15:50
DynamitI only have N900 sorry15:50
Dynamityou have the developer version of the phone I have ;)15:51
khertani'm using the single boot method describe on https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Nokia_N95015:51
khertanFlashing kernel... Sending request 0x50 failed!15:51
khertanUnable to get error strings: Broken pipe15:51
khertanDynamit, :) i ve both in fact :)15:52
khertann9 and n95015:52
DynamitI have N900 not the N9 big diffrent ;)15:52
Dynamitdo you run flash as root?15:52
sledgesthat's why you chose single boot khertan ?15:53
khertanyep of course15:53
khertansledges, because i ve other harmattan test device :)15:53
sledgesyou'll loose harmattan this way as read on wiki15:53
sledges;) ok15:53
khertanwhy keep harmattan if there is no use of it15:54
Dynamitdo you use a *nix dist? becuase then I can send a bash script I have made to make it more easy for me ;) but you will need to do some changes in the bash file but that is small changes.15:54
khertanlet me see your script15:54
DynamitI need to change computer ;)15:54
khertanDynamit, yep i use *nix distrib ... have a bsd and a debian testing under the hands15:55
sledgesthat reminds me a Rammstein song :D (Stripped)15:55
khertan:)15:55
DynamitSo just need to open the file and paste in in a pastebin or upload it to my server15:55
khertanroh15:55
sledgeskhertan, ever tried dual boot method? that one does not physically flash, so you could rootcause it better15:55
khertansledges, will try dual boot so :)15:56
sledgesas dual boot is less impactful15:56
DynamitI run Dual boot on my N900 but I only had bad luck with use of dualboot and micro sd-card in my N90015:56
khertanDynamit, it s kinda slow on my n900 (using class 2 sdcard is surely the reason)15:57
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khertanthe cause of error with kernel could be the fact that i didn't use the 1.2 kernel15:57
DynamitI use fast sdcard but I hade get about 3 bad sdcards after a short time of using dualboot15:58
DynamitI will upload the bash script and with every thing need with everything need for flash with Maemo 5, and some old Nemo. ;) but that part is easy to understand what to-do ;)16:02
Dynamithttp://rar-network.se/flasher-3.5 will the link be.16:04
khertandamn ... flasher-3.5 didn't have option -a16:04
khertanlike it s said on wiki for dual boot16:04
DynamitNo not for dualboot then you one which file I have forgott then you use a soft, to-do the work and write everything need to the sdcard.16:05
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DynamitBut big warning do a backup if you want the content left that is on the sdcard and but it in your computer16:06
Dynamitsome where16:06
Dynamitas that method would erase all partion on selected device and make partions that way they are needed16:07
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khertanlol i m stupid ... was using flasher-3.516:11
khertannot flasher 3.1216:11
khertanhuhu16:11
khertannow need to deal with bb5_rdc_cert_read failed16:12
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Dynamitbut you sould still be abel to use my bash script if you want to make it easier16:12
khertanur script will not work better16:14
khertanas it s a know bug of flasher 3.1216:14
khertanand 3.5 didn't work with harmattan device16:14
Dynamitno but make the work ;) for you as user16:14
khertansomeone know where i can found the beta1 firmware distribution package16:18
khertan?16:19
khertanlook like it was erased from nokia site16:19
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khertanDevicelock ON: cannot flash unsigned image ... ok any idea before i throw the n950 by the windows ?17:00
phaeronKhertan: flash harmattan and unlock it17:07
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phaeronKhertan: it's written on the wiki17:07
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phaerongtg17:08
sledgeskhertan: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N950#Flasher_for_N95017:08
khertanphaeron, it s already unlocked and flashed17:08
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khertan;)17:08
khertanthanks i already read it17:10
khertani m trying to downgrade firmware to 1.2 ... to see it s could be the problem17:10
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khertans/it/if it17:10
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sledgesnot discouraging, but if your n950 is to fly through window, in #jollamobile we were discussing how to persuade n950 owners to sell their phones to wacky Jolla h4ckos :))17:17
khertansledges, the purpose of my fight is to flash moslo to run nemo mobile ... :)17:18
sledgeshmmm, or maybe we could introduce a new service: "Get SAilfish OS on your n950 only for XX.99 €" :D17:18
sledgesyes, i just got caught by your 'window' remark ;) piece :)17:19
lardmankhertan: let me know how you get on, I plan to flash nemo asap17:20
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khertanok ... the problem was the pr1.317:25
lardmanah, luckily I never bothered to flash that17:26
khertanahaha the warning about warranty ... which one ? :17:26
khertan;p17:26
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khertanwhouou ... nemo booting17:31
faenil:)17:32
sledges\0/17:32
sledgeswhatever your did, well done khertan :)17:33
khertansledges, look like unactivating lock on pr1.3 didn't unactivate it really17:33
sledgesso you reflashed 1.2 ?17:34
khertanyep ...17:34
sledgesnais, just as phaeron said :)17:34
khertani ve reflashed 1.317:35
sledgesa17:35
khertanbefore ... but wasn't working17:35
sledgeshm17:35
khertanso maybe not related to lock17:35
khertanafter all17:35
halVIII__do you know if nemo has already been installed on a rasperpi17:36
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sledgespossible, but rpi has not touchscreen, navigating with mouse kind of defeats nemo's purpose17:38
khertanhttp://repo.pub.meego.com/home%3a/khertan/Mer_Core_armv7l/home%3akhertan.repo17:39
khertanoups wrong windows17:39
khertansorry17:39
sledgeshalVIII__, rpi related (Mer) stuff: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/RaspberryPi17:39
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sledgesdon't mention nemo, but see no reason why it wouldn't run17:40
sledgesissues performance-wise maybe?17:40
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khertanand ... khtnotes and khtsimpletext works on nemo mobile !17:44
khertanjust slow to launch17:45
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sledgesah, now that you mentioned kht* apps, khertan I remember using one of your nifty apps, shame can't remember which :) (http://khertan.net/projects) nice to connect :)17:48
halVIII__sledges, thank you,17:48
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sledgesso you can expect your apps to work similarly seamlessly on sailfish os!17:51
halVIII__search 'nemo'  on google and other, and you get a lot of stupid fish17:58
sledges:) yes, it all became very fishy after MeeGo jumped off of a burning platform ;)17:59
halVIII__:)17:59
M4rtinKI would like to use this occasion to thank Khertan for helping me with Nemo packaging :)18:00
khertanM4rtinK, ?18:01
M4rtinKwell, indirectly :) -> I lerned from how PyPackager does that & looked how Khertans Nemo specfiles look like18:01
khertanhow :)18:01
khertanhéhé ... that s the purpose helping ... the tools was made for that18:02
khertansledges, if only harmattan component are present18:02
khertannow the question will be deployment18:02
khertan:)18:02
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M4rtinKBTW, I've taken the specfile generator from PyPAckager and integrated with sdist_maemo, producing sdist_nemo in the process :)18:03
M4rtinKall the code is here: https://github.com/M4rtinK/modrana-packaging18:03
M4rtinKits part of the modRana packaging scripts for now, but I try to keep application specific stuff out of it, so it could be merged back/split later18:04
vgradefaenil: \018:05
faenilvgrade, o/18:05
Sfiet_Konstantinhello vgrade18:06
vgradehi18:06
M4rtinKkhertan: I was thinking about ripping all the good parts from the Harmattan components and either dropping all C++ dependent stuff or reimplementing it in either QML/Python18:07
M4rtinKso that the resulting application using it is only dependent on QML18:08
faenilvgrade, so :P18:08
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faenilvgrade, did you already try anything?18:10
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faenilI have created the channel #wewantsailfish for people who want to port sailfish on N950/N9...feel free to join! :)18:16
M4rtinKkhertan: BTW, any idea how to use the volume buttons from Python & Qt on Nemo ?18:17
vgradefaenil: I'm always trying things18:19
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vgradewhat was the text about18:19
vgradesry tweet18:20
faenilwewantsailfish :)18:20
faenilporting sailfish to N950/N9 asap18:20
vgradeI thought sailfish was already on n95018:20
vgradeI saw a video18:20
faenilyeah but only jolla has it18:20
faenilvgrade, do you have it? :P18:20
vgradenot me18:20
faenilvgrade, none does :P18:20
faenilonly jollaiana18:20
faeniljollaians18:21
vgradeI thought I saw a tweet about a build for n95018:21
vgradebut not from official jolla18:21
M4rtinKok, joined :)18:21
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faenilvgrade, I don't think there's anything out yet18:24
faenilthe n950 shown was jolla's18:24
faenilthe one I've seen today at slush too18:24
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khertanw00t, https://github.com/nemomobile/qt-components/pull/4 https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=581 :)22:42
Merbot`Nemo bug 581 in qt-components "TextArea width cannot be use with a flickable element when text isn't wrapped" [Normal,New]22:42
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M4rtinKbtw, whats the current status with location and qtmobility ?23:08
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