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| w00t | phaeron: do you have an n9 running nemo to hand? | 00:16 |
| w00t | can you tell me what /etc/boardname says for you? | 00:17 |
| phaeron | arm_nokia_rm_696_board_1603 | 00:17 |
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| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7212 Accepted promotion request | 00:19 |
| w00t | thanks | 00:19 |
| * w00t is teaching Qt Mobility's systeminfo mer specifics | 00:21 | |
| ljp | :) yay | 00:21 |
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| special | w00t: somebody needs to keep you under control | 00:22 |
| w00t | special: o? | 00:22 |
| special | it's 1am, and every hour all day long I hear you refer to a different patch for a different component | 00:23 |
| w00t | god bless adhd? | 00:23 |
| w00t | :P | 00:23 |
| ljp | wish I had used plugins for systeminfo | 00:23 |
| faenil | special, +1 | 00:26 |
| w00t | ljp: yes, it would have been good I think | 00:27 |
| faenil | yessss \o/ it works! Now I can go to bed :D | 00:32 |
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| w00t | ljp: hmm | 00:34 |
| ljp | w00t: I originally designed it that way.. but... someone thought that was overkill ;/ | 00:34 |
| w00t | did you do the maemo6 implementation? | 00:34 |
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| ljp | I did the generic linux, but not harmattan. then it was given to someone else | 00:35 |
| w00t | ok | 00:35 |
| ljp | so I am only half to blame :) | 00:36 |
| w00t | :-) | 00:37 |
| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7214 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7214 | 00:43 |
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| iekku | morning | 04:12 |
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| w00t | Vesuri: i want to tag a new lipstick release after removing the icon path resolution code, anything you're wanting to get in? | 09:11 |
| Vesuri | w00t: I suppose my notification work will take some time, so please go ahead. I'll make a new tag when I get my stuff done | 09:11 |
| w00t | ok | 09:12 |
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| Vesuri | hey jakub :) | 09:14 |
| w00t | Vesuri: did you forget to push v0.4.3's tag? I don't seem to have it | 09:17 |
| Vesuri | w00t: I don't think it has been released yet? the version has just been changed | 09:17 |
| Vesuri | so that the next version would be 0.4.3 instead of 0.1 :) | 09:17 |
| w00t | I have it in project:MTF:UX | 09:17 |
| w00t | * Wed Oct 24 2012 Vesa Halttunen <vesa.halttunen@jollamobile.com> - 0.4.3 | 09:17 |
| Vesuri | oh | 09:17 |
| Vesuri | then that must be the case, sorry | 09:19 |
| Vesuri | Oct 24 16:19 | 09:19 |
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| w00t | Vesuri: can you push that tag at some point? would be nice to have it | 09:31 |
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| Vesuri | w00t: yep! | 09:38 |
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| Aard | since we now and then have problems with moslos autopartitioning messing up, which mostly prompts people just to restart, and end up with a working alternateos, but messed up partition table, I did a small patch making the user responsible for the partitioning: http://aard.fi/moslo.jpeg | 10:11 |
| Aard | opinions? better have the script run automatically, or like this? | 10:11 |
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| phaeron | Aard: does it reduce the failure rate ? | 10:14 |
| Aard | phaeron: it does not, but should make it easier for people to recover, since it'll blow up in the terminal right in front of their eyes. and it should make us finally get a usable log of what's going on when it blows up | 10:15 |
| phaeron | I seem to vaguely remember people having issues with finding telnet in recent ubuntu :D | 10:16 |
| Aard | ... | 10:16 |
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| sledges | depends on how often this happens: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#FATAL:_Re-partitioning_failed.21_You_might_be_in_trouble.21 | 10:19 |
| Aard | sledges: I've seen it quite often lately ;) | 10:19 |
| sledges | it means more people started doing it on N9 :D | 10:19 |
| sledges | I thought it was only my australian N9, so decided to write that article anyway | 10:20 |
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| Aard | another option would be giving a choice of autopartition vs. telnet in through volume key, but since the moslo script already is a horrible mess, and I want to replace it completely in the not-to-far future anyway I'd prefer not to go there :) | 10:20 |
| sledges | not sure if many people (even geeks) know how to resize partitions from command line, I know I don't | 10:20 |
| sledges | agreed | 10:21 |
| sledges | maybe we could provide a tutorial on wiki, and direct to it from within MOSLO | 10:21 |
| sledges | ? | 10:21 |
| Aard | is possible | 10:21 |
| sledges | or | 10:22 |
| Aard | sledges: if you look at the screenshot, currently I suggest calling the autopartition script manually, so you just need to do what's written on the display, and come to irc if it blows up | 10:22 |
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| sledges | MOSLO could say: come to IRC if you don't know how to resize and partition your device | 10:22 |
| sledges | :) | 10:22 |
| sledges | so that what is currently, isn't it Aard ? | 10:23 |
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| Aard | ? | 10:23 |
| sledges | right, now had a second glance to the screenshot ;) | 10:23 |
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| sledges | and as phaeron said, we are bound to people not knowing how to use telnet. If they don't, it's better they haven't started flashing at all, or? | 10:25 |
| sledges | at this stage is pretty safe, yes; until a MOSLO's rewrite | 10:25 |
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| Aard | sledges: if they don't use telnet they won't be able to recover from a partitioning failure, and I'm not sure if reflash will work (I know that I can reflash my rnd n9 with the nokia-internal flasher, but never tried if it works with the public bits without fixing the partition table) | 10:26 |
| w00t | phaeron: SR 7215 | 10:27 |
| Aard | so yes, it might make sense to have the 'you need to be this tal^W^Wable to use telnet' obstacle before flashing | 10:27 |
| w00t | phaeron: i'd appreciate your giving it a test too, works for me, but the more poking it gets the better | 10:27 |
| sledges | nokia flasher should reflash everything, i think many people went down that route, and nokia flasher solved everything. otherwise we'd be facing many bricked phone faces here :) | 10:27 |
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| Aard | sledges: there are some bits the public flasher does not do, but I don't have a list of it | 10:28 |
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| sledges | so you are not aware of a mere joe using moslo, having partitions messed up, giving up and using nokia's flasher to restore status quo ? | 10:29 |
| Aard | no | 10:30 |
| sledges | fair enough | 10:31 |
| Aard | feel free to give it a try, though :) | 10:32 |
| sledges | :D | 10:32 |
| sledges | well if flasher bricks it, MOSLO can still step in | 10:32 |
| sledges | unless bootloader goes bonkers | 10:32 |
| Aard | yep, but if the people can't use telnet they have a problem :) | 10:33 |
| sledges | add another disclaimer then :D | 10:33 |
| Aard | no, after thinking about it phaeron 'some people don't know how to use telnet' really should be taken as 'then either don't flash or learn how to use it' | 10:34 |
| sledges | that's the disclaimer I was thinking about, it's enough if that goes to wiki | 10:35 |
| sledges | (everyone goes to wiki to start with flashing anyhows) | 10:35 |
| phaeron | it's also involve dealing with network manager messing up usb9 | 10:35 |
| phaeron | usb0 | 10:35 |
| Aard | phaeron: honestly, I prefer people having problems with the setup _before_ trying to change the partition table, and not _after_ the partition table is broken | 10:37 |
| sledges | +1 | 10:37 |
| phaeron | Aard: yes I guess I am just proving the point that you're raising the barrier to entry for good purpose so I approve | 10:37 |
| phaeron | but this should be announced too | 10:37 |
| Aard | of course, and I'll not push anything about that today | 10:39 |
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| w00t | phaeron: do I need to forward that to CE: too? | 11:06 |
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| phaeron | w00t: did the creq | 11:07 |
| w00t | ok, thanks :) | 11:07 |
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| phaeron | w00t: one thing , some of the icons show up a bit delayed | 11:11 |
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| w00t | phaeron: that's expected, if there's load on the device at the time | 11:15 |
| phaeron | w00t: well there's always load at bootup | 11:15 |
| w00t | yeah | 11:16 |
| peetah | where can i download mtd-utils and mtd-utils-ubi for the latest nemo release ? | 11:23 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7216 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7216 | 11:25 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7216 Accepted promotion request | 11:36 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7219 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7219 | 12:38 |
| sledges | about to try zypper ref&up on N9 (hope all is stable`ish :)) | 12:39 |
| w00t | hopefully | 12:39 |
| phaeron | :) | 12:41 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7220 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7220 | 12:41 |
| sledges | any plans to go on 'devel' and 'stable' repos? | 12:41 |
| phaeron | yes on new obs | 12:41 |
| sledges | any plans on new obs? :D | 12:42 |
| sledges | or you mean naming structure? | 12:42 |
| sledges | (question remains) | 12:42 |
| phaeron | sledges: new obs is there just needs some more setting up + migration | 12:42 |
| phaeron | new structure is there too | 12:42 |
| sledges | awesome | 12:43 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7218 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7218 | 12:48 |
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| sledges | 412 packages, it's been a while :) | 12:55 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7220 Accepted promotion request | 13:39 |
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| MSameer | what's the policy regarding "forking" libraries from maemo.gitorious.org ? | 14:14 |
| MSameer | I need to adapt https://maemo.gitorious.org/maemo-af/libthumbnailer | 14:15 |
| MSameer | clean it up and perhaps remove some functionality | 14:15 |
| MSameer | do I just import it somewhere ? | 14:15 |
| MSameer | seems it's already available | 14:16 |
| MSameer | let me check obs | 14:16 |
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| Stskeeps | put on github if no longer maintained | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | IMHO | 14:16 |
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| MSameer | how would i know it's not maintained ? | 14:17 |
| MSameer | last update was a year ago | 14:17 |
| MSameer | almost a year ago | 14:17 |
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| phaeron | try contacting the maintainers | 14:18 |
| Stskeeps | usually that | 14:18 |
| Stskeeps | :{ | 14:18 |
| Stskeeps | P | 14:18 |
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| phaeron | either they don't reply or give you maintainership | 14:19 |
| phaeron | eitherway then move it to github | 14:19 |
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| sledges | oh no | 14:31 |
| sledges | Retrieving: libnotificationsystem0-1.4.0-3.10.Nemo.UX.MTF.armv7hl.rpm [error] | 14:31 |
| sledges | File './armv7hl/libnotificationsystem0-1.4.0-3.10.Nemo.UX.MTF.armv7hl.rpm' not found on medium 'http://repo.pub.meego.com/CE:/UX:/MTF/CE_MW_MTF_armv7hl/ | 14:31 |
| sledges | (N9 zypper up just now) | 14:31 |
| phaeron | sledges: zypper ref | 14:32 |
| sledges | so should i abort now? | 14:32 |
| phaeron | yeah it is still retrieving | 14:32 |
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| sledges | Do you want to retry retrieval? Abort, retry, ignore? [a/r/i] (a) :D | 14:33 |
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| phaeron | well it probably got rebuilt and the filename changed | 14:35 |
| sledges | you're right | 14:37 |
| sledges | aborted all and refstarted :) | 14:37 |
| sledges | phaeron, it started dowqnloading all packages again D: | 14:38 |
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| sledges | why isn't caching working | 14:43 |
| MSameer | too much headache to claim a most likely dead library | 14:43 |
| MSameer | easier to reimplement the algorithm :P | 14:43 |
| sledges | (clock's set to 1970.. :)) | 14:43 |
| phaeron | sledges: new kernel should fix that | 14:44 |
| phaeron | + new connman | 14:44 |
| sledges | kernel(!?) | 14:44 |
| sledges | ah | 14:44 |
| phaeron | well kernel will help before you have connectivity | 14:44 |
| sledges | is there any smoke workaround for this now? can't wait another 2 hours of downloads | 14:44 |
| phaeron | set the clock :) | 14:44 |
| sledges | will help? | 14:45 |
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| sledges | not helping :D | 14:47 |
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| phaeron | how do you know ? did you stop retrieving and start again ? | 14:51 |
| sledges | yes | 14:51 |
| sledges | and ntpdated in between | 14:51 |
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| phaeron | hmm | 14:54 |
| phaeron | and date is correct now ? | 14:54 |
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| phaeron | I am not sure why it is clearing the cache though | 14:55 |
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| sledges | but | 14:57 |
| sledges | old files still date 1970 | 14:57 |
| sledges | if that's taken into account for whatever reasons | 14:57 |
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| phaeron | hmm yeah .. if server offers a file 40 years in the future it will definitely override | 15:03 |
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| sledges | for a laugh, will try to set all their dates via script to this morning, see if it helps | 15:08 |
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| phaeron | sledges: how is it going :D | 17:01 |
| sledges | will try later :) | 17:05 |
| sledges | now using again as my daily phone | 17:05 |
| sledges | (trying to get vouchers for orange wednesday for cinema tonight :)) | 17:05 |
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| phaeron | cool you're already using it as that | 17:09 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7222 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7222 | 17:19 |
| sledges | ummmmm | 17:23 |
| sledges | no | 17:23 |
| sledges | :D | 17:23 |
| sledges | rebooted back to harmattan | 17:23 |
| sledges | had I two N9s, one would surely be nemo on my 2ndary SIM card | 17:23 |
| phaeron | ah ok :( | 17:25 |
| sledges | ;) | 17:26 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7222 Accepted promotion request | 17:33 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7223 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7223 | 18:37 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7223 Accepted promotion request | 18:57 |
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| faenil | evening gentlemen and ma'ams | 20:58 |
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| faenil | special, ping | 23:28 |
| special | faenil: pong | 23:29 |
| faenil | special, do you have time to review the PR if I send it in in the next hour? | 23:29 |
| faenil | I mean, before your day ends | 23:30 |
| special | not sure | 23:30 |
| special | there are a couple more things I need to get done today | 23:30 |
| faenil | ok | 23:31 |
| faenil | special, get ready for some dirty things :P | 23:32 |
| faenil | but I finally got QML to behave as I wanted | 23:32 |
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| special | good if it's working, at least | 23:34 |
| faenil | oh it is :) | 23:39 |
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