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| iekku | morning | 03:24 |
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| chriadam | good morning | 03:25 |
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| Kypeli | Morning | 05:30 |
| Kypeli | I wonder how I would be able to check if w00t got the latest stuff in nemo-qml-plugin? | 05:31 |
| w00t | check OBS | 05:33 |
| w00t | (https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=nemo-qml-plugins&project=CE%3AMW%3AShared says yes) | 05:34 |
| Kypeli | Yeah, that would be the thought as well. For for a person that never used Git, I would be like saying "use Git" :) | 05:34 |
| Kypeli | w00t: Cool, thanks! | 05:34 |
| Kypeli | "it would be" | 05:35 |
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| khertan2 | Hello ! | 09:17 |
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| rcg-work | hi Khertan_works | 09:29 |
| Khertan_works | political question : i ve made a tool that build a python apps to create source package for obs, a debian .dsc, a debian .changes and sources tar.gz, recently i ve added the generation of a .spec file, so obs build deb and rpm package | 09:31 |
| Khertan_works | now the problem is the .changes | 09:31 |
| faenil | good morning guys :) | 09:31 |
| Khertan_works | for buildbot for nemo it s require a format, that isn't the same for debian :) | 09:32 |
| rcg-work | "morning" faenil ;P | 09:32 |
| Khertan_works | so i should create two package in obs which are the same just for specifying depending on target only the .changes files | 09:33 |
| faenil | rcg-work, just back from uni :P | 09:33 |
| Khertan_works | did you see any work arround to prevent doing that ? | 09:33 |
| rcg-work | faenil, hehe, right, just kidding :) | 09:33 |
| Khertan_works | morning faenil | 09:33 |
| faenil | rcg-work, :D | 09:33 |
| faenil | morning Khertan_works :) | 09:33 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | morn faenil | 09:33 |
| faenil | yo Sfiet_Konstantin | 09:33 |
| Khertan_works | hello Sfiet_Konstantin | 09:33 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hi Khertan_works | 09:33 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | lol | 09:33 |
| Khertan_works | :) | 09:34 |
| rcg-work | Khertan_works, personally i don't see any obvious workaround... but maybe the obs gurus in here have some brilliant idea ;) | 09:34 |
| rcg-work | hey Sfiet_Konstantin | 09:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | the number of hi to be said is (n-1)! | 09:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | woops | 09:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | no | 09:34 |
| Khertan_works | * 2kPI | 09:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | 2 * n*(n-1) | 09:34 |
| Khertan_works | * K * PI | 09:35 |
| rcg-work | you do the math.. i'll have to work | 09:35 |
| rcg-work | ;P | 09:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | exp(i pi) + 1 = 0, the perfect formula | 09:35 |
| Khertan_works | where K is the Boltzmann constant | 09:35 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, yeah math nerds formula :P | 09:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | oh come on, maths are pretty | 09:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sometimes, sexy | 09:36 |
| faenil | I agree | 09:36 |
| Khertan_works | Sfiet_Konstantin: until you need to implement them in code | 09:36 |
| Khertan_works | :) | 09:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hum ... computational maths can be pretty too | 09:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | first, you need to learn how to love blas | 09:37 |
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| Venemo | good morning everyone | 11:09 |
| Venemo | w00t: ping | 11:09 |
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| faenil | Venemo, morning | 11:11 |
| Venemo | hey faenil :) | 11:11 |
| Venemo | what's up? | 11:11 |
| faenil | nothing in particular :) | 11:12 |
| faenil | what about you | 11:12 |
| Venemo | lots of work/stress, but I haven't given up on contributing to Nemo either :P | 11:12 |
| faenil | good boy :) | 11:13 |
| faenil | I'm surrounded by Jollians here, I need some neutral colleague :D | 11:15 |
| Venemo | I'm heavily biased | 11:16 |
| Venemo | not very neutral :P | 11:16 |
| faenil | you misunderstood :) | 11:16 |
| Stskeeps | jollaians, nemoians, not much difference :P | 11:17 |
| faenil | :) | 11:17 |
| Venemo | well, I don't work for Jolla, if that's what you meant | 11:19 |
| Venemo | but I still would be happy to see them succeed | 11:19 |
| faenil | Venemo, yes :) | 11:19 |
| faenil | same here | 11:19 |
| faenil | bbl ;) | 11:20 |
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| Venemo | hey cybette :) nice to see you around | 11:32 |
| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7112 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7112 | 11:49 |
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| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7112 Accepted promotion request | 12:01 |
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| Mric_ | hello, I would to help to nemo project by translating the current OS in French. Some people told me it would be a good idea. I have no idea where to start ... if someone could help me ? | 12:10 |
| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7113 Rejected promotion request | 12:13 |
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| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7114 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7114 | 12:20 |
| Mric_ | anyone knows how the language is intergrated in the OS ? I guess I would have to translate the qml file,right ? | 12:21 |
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| Venemo | Mric_: depends on the app that you want to translate | 12:36 |
| Mric_ | Venemo: I would like to translate the OS itself, I have notice that that currently the 2 langages are british and russian | 12:37 |
| Venemo | Mric_: what do you mean by "the OS itself"? the OS itself is just a bunch of apps thrown together and a home screen to launch them | 12:37 |
| Venemo | last time I checked, the home screen wasn't translateable (we're working on that) | 12:38 |
| Venemo | as for the apps, the process usually depends on the app. | 12:39 |
| Mric_ | yes but like the settings ... and also I would like to add another keyboard | 12:39 |
| Venemo | settings is just another app called meegotouchc | 12:39 |
| Venemo | for other keyboards, yup, that would be nice | 12:40 |
| Venemo | for something that uses Qt and Qt's translation file formats, you can just translate the translation files and that's it :) | 12:40 |
| Venemo | for adding new layouts to the keyboard, you would need to ask someone who is more knowledgeable than me though | 12:40 |
| special | Sage_: ping | 12:41 |
| Venemo | hey special :) | 12:42 |
| Venemo | Mric_: this is how a Qt translation file looks, for example: http://gitorious.org/colorful-apps/puzzle-master/blobs/master/translations/puzzle-master_hu_HU.ts | 12:43 |
| special | hi | 12:43 |
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| Mric_ | Venemo: cool, so i'm going to try to add the french keyboard which will basically be a azerty keyboard + accents and change 'meegotouch' in french ... how does it sound ? | 12:43 |
| Venemo | Mric_: I don't speak French, but it sounds nice :) I'm unfamiliar with keyboard customization though | 12:44 |
| faenil | Mric_, special could tell you the difficulty degree :) | 12:44 |
| special | we don't have any sane way to add other keyboard layouts for the QML keyboard right now. | 12:45 |
| faenil | there you go, boom | 12:45 |
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| special | they're somewhat complicated QML (see https://gitorious.org/maliit/maliit-plugins/blobs/master/nemo-keyboard/org/nemomobile/EnglishPortrait.qml) and there's nothing to allow switching languages | 12:46 |
| Venemo | yet? | 12:46 |
| Mric_ | special: alright ... so what do you think ? I have a very basic QML language so probably to hard but I will have a look | 12:46 |
| special | yet. I'm sure there will be | 12:47 |
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| Venemo | Mric_: if you are unsure of your QML skills, I suggest you wait until there is a sane way of switching and customizing it | 12:48 |
| Mric_ | special: so basically I can't do it ... I guess only translating the 'meegotouch' app is not very usefull, or what do you think ? | 12:49 |
| faenil | what's the meegotouch app? you mean the settings panel? | 12:50 |
| Venemo | Mric_: the settings app is called meegotouchcp (sorry, I was missing the p, sorry) | 12:51 |
| Venemo | Mric_: there are lots of other apps you could look at though: https://github.com/nemomobile | 12:51 |
| Mric_ | yes I mean the setting app 'meegotouchcp' | 12:52 |
| faenil | Mric_, meegotouchcp will eventually be rewritten using QML, so there's no point in translating it, at the moment :) | 12:52 |
| Venemo | faenil: it will? | 12:52 |
| faenil | Venemo, well, the plan is to get rid of MTF app, isn't it | 12:53 |
| Venemo | faenil: last time I checked, noone cared about that. but I'm happy that the opinion changed | 12:53 |
| faenil | Venemo, we've been rewriting apps in QML for the last year... xD | 12:54 |
| Venemo | faenil: yeah, but last time I asked about that ugly settings app I was told not to care. | 12:55 |
| Venemo | but anyway, I'll be happy to see it gone | 12:55 |
| faenil | Venemo, problem is the settings app is too big, afaik | 12:56 |
| faenil | that is why we're not taking care of that atm... | 12:56 |
| faenil | at least that's what I know | 12:56 |
| Venemo | mhm | 12:56 |
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| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7116 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7116 | 12:57 |
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| Mric_ | so I can't really help right now ? | 12:58 |
| Mric_ | btw thx for your answers | 12:58 |
| faenil | loving how unreliable wifi in Uni is | 12:59 |
| tadzik | I know the feeling | 12:59 |
| Stskeeps | faenil: iwconfig wlan0 power of | 13:00 |
| Stskeeps | f | 13:00 |
| tadzik | it's a bit ironic how McDonalds is better at maintaining wifi than technical university :) | 13:00 |
| tadzik | not the same amount of traffic, I know | 13:01 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, not on Nemo ;) it was just a rant :P | 13:03 |
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| Stskeeps | you don't run nemo as your default OS? what kind of faith is that ;p | 13:03 |
| tadzik | I ran nemo as my primary OS on Uni a week ago or so | 13:04 |
| tadzik | for half an hour, before the battery was drained ;) | 13:04 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 13:04 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, ahaha :D | 13:04 |
| Venemo | tadzik: on what device? | 13:05 |
| tadzik | Venemo: N900 | 13:05 |
| Venemo | hm | 13:05 |
| Venemo | it shouldn't be THAT bad. | 13:05 |
| tadzik | maybe it has something to do with the fact that the battery status indicator is not worky | 13:06 |
| Venemo | hm. | 13:06 |
| tadzik | always shows it as Almost Empty, like this: [| ] | 13:06 |
| Venemo | that sounds awful | 13:06 |
| Stskeeps | that's fixed now i think | 13:07 |
| tadzik | yes, I cried myself to sleep when I saw it for the first time ;) | 13:07 |
| tadzik | it's been like this for the last 3-ish releases for me | 13:07 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: fixed for n950 and n9, the n900 still has some horrible binary-only plugin i think | 13:11 |
| Khertan_works | does the last released img works on your n900 ? | 13:11 |
| Khertan_works | look like the display is compressed to one line at the top of the screen for me :) | 13:12 |
| Khertan_works | (previous img works) | 13:12 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, was the blank screen terminal bug fixed? | 13:12 |
| Venemo | hey w00t :) | 13:13 |
| Stskeeps | in VM? yes but not sure if in any released images | 13:13 |
| w00t | Venemo: hi | 13:14 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, damn, wanted to use that as an excuse for the reason I don't have Nemo as the main notebook OS ;P | 13:14 |
| Venemo | Nemo as a notebook OS? hmm | 13:15 |
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| Mric_ | special: sorry for coming back, but If I woud rewritte this keyboard (https://gitorious.org/maliit/maliit-plugins/blobs/master/nemo-keyboard/org/nemomobile/EnglishPortrait.qml) with the french charachters would it help for the future ? I understand that righ now it is too hard to implemented | 13:23 |
| special | Mric_: not at the moment; it's going through a lot of other changes right now. Eventually we'll have a proper way to do keyboard layouts | 13:24 |
| Mric_ | special: alright thanks for the answer. Do you know any 'stupid' job where I could help by any change? | 13:25 |
| Mric_ | special: *chance | 13:25 |
| Khertan_works | special: what s the problem with it ? look like it can be changed easily ? | 13:25 |
| faenil | Venemo, via VM :P | 13:26 |
| Venemo | hm. | 13:26 |
| special | Khertan_works: I haven't looked into/thought about layouts, I've just been getting the keyboard itself to behave decently | 13:26 |
| special | but there is nothing right now that would handle multiple layouts for the QML keyboard. | 13:27 |
| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7116 Accepted promotion request | 13:27 |
| Khertan_works | special: i didn't have nemo here but the russian is working ? when changing from prefs ? | 13:28 |
| Khertan_works | //TODO - loader here? //RussianPortrait {} | 13:29 |
| Khertan_works | look like not :) | 13:29 |
| special | yeah, it's never referenced | 13:29 |
| Khertan_works | indeed :) | 13:30 |
| Khertan_works | anyway it s didn't hurt to create the layout, and when loader will be available it ll be useable | 13:30 |
| w00t | special: are your changes in a release yet? | 13:30 |
| Mric_ | special: You probalby know better than me ... But I was going to say that if you look in the keyboard folder their is 2 keyboards ... (russianportrait.qml and englishportrait.qml) | 13:30 |
| special | Khertan_works: Mric_: at the moment, I have a bunch of ongoing changes to all of that code (see https://gitorious.org/maliit/maliit-plugins/merge_requests/78), so it wouldn't be a great time to copy | 13:31 |
| special | also; I think we can do better than copying a couple hundred lines of QML for every keyboard layout. | 13:31 |
| special | that said | 13:32 |
| special | if you're interested, by all means, feel welcome to look into handling keyboard layouts, I'd be glad to assist | 13:32 |
| Khertan_works | special: yeah two qml file by language as layout isn't probably the best way to handle layout | 13:36 |
| Khertan_works | but i'm far to be a expert in this domain | 13:36 |
| faenil | they have to be read from external files | 13:37 |
| faenil | we just have to decide all the parameters | 13:37 |
| faenil | thus deciding the structure of the kb layout files :) | 13:38 |
| Khertan_works | yep | 13:38 |
| faenil | something like | 13:38 |
| Khertan_works | oh ... while some people are here, i ve a question about obs | 13:38 |
| faenil | number or rows, number of chars on the first row, number of chars on the second row | 13:39 |
| w00t | special: take a look at the C++ plugin | 13:39 |
| w00t | they have an xml format description I think | 13:39 |
| special | w00t: I'm not volunteering :p | 13:39 |
| faenil | but I don't know anything about maliit, so I don't know how flexible it is :) | 13:39 |
| w00t | special: didn't say you were | 13:39 |
| faenil | w00t, great, it's already there :) | 13:39 |
| w00t | but you're helping | 13:39 |
| w00t | so help guide people in the right direction :p | 13:39 |
| faenil | special, he cought you :P | 13:39 |
| faenil | caught | 13:39 |
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| Khertan_works | i ve a tool which create source package from a python code, plus a little script, this tool generate a debian .dsc, a .tar.gz, a debian .changes and a .spec so in same package obs create a deb for distribution using deb and a rpm for distribution using rpm | 13:40 |
| Khertan_works | now the problem is the .changes file, it s require a special format for debian | 13:40 |
| Xruxa | Mric_: special: there was way to switch between layouts, the russian one worked just fine | 13:40 |
| Khertan_works | and an other one for CE:App/Shared | 13:40 |
| special | Xruxa: did it look the same as the english one? | 13:41 |
| Khertan_works | (apps.formeego.com) | 13:41 |
| Xruxa | special: nope | 13:41 |
| special | Xruxa: it's probably switching to the default maliit keyboard (not the QML one) for non-english, then | 13:41 |
| Xruxa | special: looked like this https://dl.dropbox.com/u/42376952/20000102-041237.png | 13:41 |
| special | good to know that it works | 13:41 |
| Khertan_works | did you see any workarround to resolve that before i create too separate package in OBS with same sources but a different .changes | 13:41 |
| Khertan_works | ? | 13:41 |
| special | hmm. | 13:42 |
| Mric_ | special: I would love to help, but I shoud assit you and the opposit ;) | 13:43 |
| Xruxa | special: been long time ago, things change. The switching IIRC was working by sliding the keyboard layout to side, but one has to be lucky to hit the space between keys AFAIK | 13:43 |
| Mric_ | Xruxa: so I understand right ... it is working but it is not very coding effiency ? | 13:43 |
| special | Xruxa: hmm, I doubt that works anymore. | 13:44 |
| special | meaning, in current nem | 13:44 |
| special | nemo* | 13:44 |
| Xruxa | Mric_: Well, English and Russian have different layouts, and those are position and size hardocoded, they share graphics and buttons and such | 13:44 |
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| special | for QML at least, the russian keyboard isn't ever loaded and there's no side-to-side swiping | 13:45 |
| * Xruxa would need to charge N950 to give it a go ... | 13:45 | |
| Xruxa | special: it was there, maybe I didn't commit everything to maliit GIT | 13:46 |
| Xruxa | special: your are right, it is not there, see PortraitVKB.qml, commented out the switching | 13:50 |
| Mric_ | Xura: sorry for newbie question, but what is the goal with the keyboards ? creating the different layouts for the different langages and the rest shared ? | 13:50 |
| w00t | we really shouldn't be defining layouts in the keyboards, long term | 13:50 |
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| w00t | otherwise it's going to explode pretty out of control | 13:51 |
| special | agreed. | 13:51 |
| Xruxa | Mric_: it was just a test. Typically one can get around latin languages with 2-5 layouts. Cyrillic and such are different case | 13:51 |
| faenil | must be easy for other people to add layouts too | 13:52 |
| faenil | so it can't be in QML code, imho | 13:52 |
| tanuk | Sage_: pulseaudio 2.1 was accepted to Mer. Is now the right time to submit pulseaudio stuff to Nemo? | 13:53 |
| Xruxa | QML as as good/bad as other ways of doing it I have seen so far. Cryptinc config files, XMLs or QMLs - who cares :) | 13:53 |
| w00t | Xruxa: doing it in QML means copy-pasting the implementation into each seperate keyboard, which means you get to fix bugs in each seperate keyboard - i'd say that's pretty much the definition of bad, so i care :) | 13:54 |
| special | w00t: to be fair, most of the code can still be shared | 13:54 |
| faenil | ^ | 13:54 |
| special | but I still agree, QML is not the best way to define a keyboard. | 13:55 |
| w00t | special: ok, then we'll just do that | 13:55 |
| special | I'm not saying anything about what we'll do | 13:55 |
| w00t | special: you're the new maintainer of nemo-keyboard, of course you are | 13:56 |
| special | as I said before, I haven't looked at layouts, I just happen to be peripherially involved in the keyboard | 13:56 |
| w00t | he who last touched it, owns it, etc | 13:56 |
| Venemo | lol | 13:56 |
| special | ah, but I'm a clueless american | 13:56 |
| special | I know nothing of other languages or cultures, I wouldn't know where to begin with keyboard layouts. | 13:56 |
| Mric_ | Xruxa: I defenetively the wrong person to undertake this project ... my knowledge is too poor. | 13:56 |
| special | w00t: you, on the other hand, use a norwegian keyboard too.. | 13:57 |
| w00t | no | 13:57 |
| Xruxa | Mric_: I defenetively the wrong person to undertake this project ... spend too much time biking and drinking :) | 13:57 |
| w00t | Xruxa: haha | 13:57 |
| w00t | that just means you're the perfect candidate | 13:57 |
| w00t | you have a real world knowledge of mobile keyboards in action | 13:57 |
| Mric_ | Xruxa: this is where I could help you ... I know french, spanish , italian, and a bit of german enough to make the keyboard layouts | 13:58 |
| Mric_ | Xruxa: haha I'm sure you can manage it ... ;) | 13:59 |
| Xruxa | Mric_: I guess anyone with QML skills can generalize the English layout and then we come up with a way to supply it with the 'characters' for those keys - after all that is like 6 lines of QML/JS constants | 13:59 |
| Khertan_works | and i can be the guy which introduce nasty bugs | 13:59 |
| Venemo | Khertan_works: hehe | 14:00 |
| Khertan_works | Xruxa: and some little modification for some specifics need | 14:00 |
| Xruxa | why do I always pop in here to just to see work coming my direction ... | 14:01 |
| Mric_ | Xruxa: Are you the man ? ;) | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | Xruxa: it does explain all the idlers here | 14:02 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:02 |
| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7118 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7118 | 14:02 |
| Xruxa | this is what slow websites do to people, they go check IRC | 14:02 |
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| Venemo | special: you don't need to know anything about other cultures to make different keyboard layouts | 14:04 |
| Venemo | special: it is enough to know that now everyone lives in America and some weird people out there use different layouts | 14:04 |
| Venemo | s/now/not | 14:04 |
| Venemo | lol | 14:04 |
| special | Venemo: that was just a desperate attempt to get back at w00t by passing it off to him :p | 14:05 |
| Venemo | :P | 14:05 |
| Mric_ | Venemo: haha | 14:05 |
| w00t | hahah | 14:05 |
| faenil | does anyone know maui? maui-project.org | 14:06 |
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| Xruxa | faenil: the visuals at the webpage are very similar to the ones at http://qwazix.github.com/nemomobile.github.com/ | 14:09 |
| Venemo | whoever thought these icons are a good idea? http://qwazix.github.com/nemomobile.github.com/#iconography | 14:11 |
| Venemo | they look very ugly | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | not terribly constructive comment, go a bit deeper? :P | 14:12 |
| * faenil wonders why his name was highlighted :D | 14:12 | |
| faenil | xD | 14:12 |
| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7119 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/7119 | 14:17 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps: well, when I look at them, some thoughts come to mind which are too harsh even for a public IRC channel | 14:18 |
| Venemo | as I already said many times, I don't think we need a border or a background around our icons at all. especially not an ugly and bevelled one. | 14:19 |
| Venemo | I would prefer simple icons, like in Fremantle | 14:19 |
| Venemo | they should be elegant and not overly cluttered. | 14:19 |
| Xruxa | Venemo: +1 for now, unless we change visual style | 14:20 |
| Venemo | whatever visual element is not necessary, it should be removed | 14:20 |
| w00t | there's really no point fighting it on IRC, either you come up with the artwork and explanation for a counterproposal and convince qwazix and mruk, or you accept that you don't win that fight | 14:20 |
| w00t | just like you do a piece of code you disagree with | 14:20 |
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| Venemo | w00t: I'm not fighting. but if anyone sees this, they likely won't want to try out Nemo. | 14:21 |
| Venemo | BUT | 14:22 |
| w00t | Venemo: well, both of the people working on design apparently disagree with you, and afaik both of them are actual designers | 14:22 |
| w00t | so i'm not sure i agree with your assessment | 14:22 |
| Venemo | there are lots of actual designers who agree with me | 14:22 |
| Venemo | but none of them work on open source projects | 14:22 |
| w00t | they aren't working on nemo | 14:22 |
| Venemo | anyway | 14:22 |
| Venemo | the UX will be themeable | 14:22 |
| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7118 Accepted promotion request | 14:22 |
| w00t | like i said, if you want, come up with a counterproposal | 14:22 |
| w00t | but saying "this is shit" doesn't benefit anyone in any way, and it hurts the motivation of the people working on it | 14:22 |
| w00t | how would you like it if I said "your code is shit, but I won't patch it"? | 14:23 |
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| * Stskeeps anticipates many different uis based on nemo middleware/toolkits | 14:23 | |
| Venemo | I think I presented a bunch of useful arguments about a month ago | 14:23 |
| w00t | arguments aren't useful | 14:23 |
| Venemo | all of them seem to have been accepted at the time | 14:23 |
| w00t | in a meritocracy, doing things is useful | 14:23 |
| Venemo | but as I said, even the default home screen will be themeable | 14:23 |
| w00t | it already is | 14:23 |
| Venemo | really? | 14:23 |
| Venemo | hm. | 14:23 |
| w00t | icons are part of themes | 14:23 |
| w00t | if you don't like it, install a new icon theme | 14:24 |
| Venemo | I was referring to the other UI elements as well | 14:24 |
| w00t | wallpaper comes from the theme | 14:24 |
| w00t | (now) | 14:24 |
| Venemo | :) | 14:24 |
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| faenil | changed wifi ap... | 14:26 |
| * w00t glues faenil to the channel | 14:26 | |
| faenil | :) | 14:27 |
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| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#7119 Accepted promotion request | 14:31 |
| w00t | xsacha: o/ | 14:31 |
| faenil | welcome xsacha :) | 14:32 |
| faenil | you can ask your questions regarding nemomobile's focus and stuff here ;) | 14:32 |
| xsacha | so is there a build for my phone? :) | 14:32 |
| faenil | xsacha: which phone? | 14:33 |
| xsacha | n9 | 14:35 |
| faenil | then yes, you can put Mer+Nemo on it | 14:35 |
| xsacha | is there a wiki/instructions page? | 14:36 |
| xsacha | this one? https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing | 14:36 |
| faenil | yup | 14:36 |
| faenil | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Nokia_N9 | 14:36 |
| w00t | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing | 14:36 |
| faenil | didn't know N9 didn't have a dualboot solution working :/ | 14:39 |
| xsacha | ive been dual-booting for quite a while | 14:39 |
| xsacha | i was actually interested to know if there's a tri-boot available | 14:39 |
| faenil | I don't know about N9...I have N950 and I'm using dualboot with Harm + Nemo | 14:39 |
| xsacha | i currently dual-boot meego and android | 14:40 |
| xsacha | by the way, which image should i be using: http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/0.20120920.1.NEMO.2012-10-07.1/images/ | 14:40 |
| xsacha | n950? | 14:40 |
| faenil | yeah I think so | 14:41 |
| xsacha | i've forgotten how to do this but there's some trick you have to do when flashing the kernel so that you dont get the 'your warranty is void' message every time you startup | 14:42 |
| xsacha | that thing is annoying because it takes another 5 seconds to boot up | 14:42 |
| faenil | I have that :) | 14:42 |
| Stskeeps | i consider it a mark of pride | 14:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:43 |
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| xsacha | i think it'd be useful to use this: http://forum.nitdroid.com/index.php?topic=685.0 (touchscreen dual-boot selection) | 14:46 |
| xsacha | looks pretty simple to mod to tri-boot | 14:48 |
| faenil | xsacha: feel free to contribute :) | 14:49 |
| faenil | marquiz is the guy who worked on the current modified bootloader | 14:49 |
| xsacha | tri-boot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz-tRdC0IX4 | 14:51 |
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| faenil | nice | 14:53 |
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| xsacha | here's the part to remove warranty boot message: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84659 | 14:57 |
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| xsacha | faenil: you should use this: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83189 | 15:05 |
| xsacha | much better instructions, has triboot too | 15:05 |
| faenil | xsacha: :O) | 15:06 |
| faenil | xsacha: :) | 15:06 |
| xsacha | the touchscreen one was better though | 15:07 |
| faenil | that's basically the same method | 15:08 |
| faenil | plus dualboot once you choose harmattan | 15:08 |
| faenil | but it's marquiz's bootloader | 15:09 |
| xsacha | yeah the vol up/vol down one | 15:10 |
| xsacha | the installation is explained a bit better | 15:10 |
| faenil | is it | 15:11 |
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| faenil | back in 1 hour ;) cya | 15:14 |
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| Mric_ | Xruxa: any new though about the keyboard? should I come back in few days/weeks and when the default layout in written I could only add the french keyboard ? | 17:53 |
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| Xruxa | Mric_: I will be traveling till 2.11. You might not want to wait for me ;) | 18:29 |
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| Mric_ | Xruxa: can you recommend someone that could be the actual programmer and I'm just helping me ? (I have time but not too much I have to go to uni and study ...) | 18:31 |
| Mric_ | Xrura: *helping him | 18:33 |
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| Mric_|2 | nobody intersted ? | 18:42 |
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| phaeron | Mric_|2: not everyone looks all the time on IRC, please send your suggestions and ideas to the mailing list | 18:52 |
| Xruxa | Mric_|2: well, you can take the current English and Russian KB layouts and see on top of which one, and how, would you layout characters for French keyboard | 18:53 |
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| Mric_|2 | phaeron: Xruxa: yep I'll do that I will think about it and than when I have something will expose it. btw what is the e-mail list ? | 19:11 |
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| phaeron | I think everyone uses the mer mailing list ? | 19:13 |
| Xruxa | mer-general@lists.merproject.org ? Where did Nemo list go? | 19:13 |
| Mric_|2 | Xruxa: phaeron: so by mailling this e-mail all the developers are going to recieved my E-mail ? | 19:15 |
| phaeron | Xruxa: I don't remember if there was one .. | 19:15 |
| phaeron | one second I will check | 19:15 |
| phaeron | yeah the thread about nemo artwork was on merproject mailing list | 19:16 |
| Xruxa | okay then | 19:16 |
| Mric_|2 | Xruxa: phaeron: thanks, btw this is probably a stupid question but could nemo ever ever support big apps like 'skype' for eg. Skype would not support officialy nemo but could some talented developers develop an app ? | 19:20 |
| Xruxa | Mric_|2: I do not think there is a limit. Get user base, developers will come. | 19:21 |
| Mric_|2 | Xruxa:yes I agree with you but not totally ;) Take Nokia for example has a big user base but less applications are develop for symbian .. (for example if I take skype again, the ios, android user have video but not the symbian users) (but maybe this is political to push user to use WP). | 19:26 |
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