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| iekku | morning | 03:04 |
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| Sage_ | oh, ffs... iekku ping :) | 06:18 |
| Sage_ | iekku: why can't I change multiple bugs from X to -> RELEASED ? | 06:18 |
| Sage_ | it gives me only RESOLVED - * | 06:18 |
| Sage_ | alrady clicked ~35 bugs in the search and now I can't do what I wanted :D | 06:19 |
| Sage_ | this is in nemo bugzilla | 06:19 |
| Sage_ | iekku: 471,368,390,384,250,394,147,319,396,431,258,378,322,272,495,470,433,326,362,369,253,475,268,181,220 | 06:21 |
| Sage_ | RELEASED plz | 06:22 |
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| niqt | morning all | 06:55 |
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| Stskeeps | morn niqt, romaxa | 06:55 |
| romaxa | Stskeeps: morning | 06:56 |
| romaxa | Stskeeps: do you know anything about possible browser strategy, what and how? | 06:57 |
| Stskeeps | romaxa: nemo's community, there's a couple :) | 06:57 |
| Stskeeps | romaxa: opera, helium mobile (qtwebkit), etc | 06:58 |
| iekku | Sage_, can't be released without resolved, that's why | 06:59 |
| iekku | nemo bug triage starting | 07:00 |
| Stskeeps | romaxa: so any offering welcome | 07:00 |
| romaxa | Stskeeps: is helium based on qtwebkit or webkit2-qt (qt5 only)? | 07:01 |
| Stskeeps | romaxa: qtwebkit i think | 07:01 |
| romaxa | Stskeeps: ough... | 07:01 |
| Stskeeps | qt5 offering is growing still | 07:01 |
| romaxa | Stskeeps: I think it would be nice to build simple nice and fast UI using EAL API | 07:02 |
| romaxa | Stskeeps: which would be possible smoothly run on different engines webkit/gecko, | 07:03 |
| Stskeeps | sure, i've seen your ipclite work | 07:03 |
| romaxa | Stskeeps: make sure that EAL api is async, and based on assumption that engine does multi-process, multi-threaded rendering | 07:03 |
| Stskeeps | looks quite interesting | 07:03 |
| romaxa | Stskeeps: so it would work only with webkit2 or Gecko-Multiprocess/Multrhead engine (similar to what N9 default browser does or Firefox on Android) | 07:04 |
| Sage_ | iekku: those all are resolved-fixed | 07:05 |
| romaxa | Stskeeps: qtwebkit (not-webkit2) - is dead end... even microb on N900 is better than that | 07:05 |
| Stskeeps | romaxa: i agree | 07:05 |
| Stskeeps | we're not browser experts though, so people are welcome to contribute | 07:06 |
| romaxa | Stskeeps: opera - is not gonna make anything useful before product released... they don't show any sources and in order to make product with them you have to create teleport to Norway first ;) | 07:06 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 07:07 |
| Stskeeps | opera was just contributing a build way back :) | 07:07 |
| iekku | Sage_, i need to check after bug triage | 07:08 |
| romaxa | Stskeeps: one possible and pretty quick solution is to build browser using Gecko multithreaded rendering approach, similar to Firefox Android. which would be pretty easy to implement, because most of functionality could be copied mostly one-to-one from Android Firefox... | 07:09 |
| romaxa | Stskeeps: but instead of Java UI build QML ui | 07:09 |
| Sage_ | w00t, special: any change the maliit compositing bug could be because of old xorg? | 07:10 |
| romaxa | Stskeeps: I'm not fun to productise UI for end-product, but simple test browser is kind of working already, using Qt native test UI | 07:11 |
| w00t | Sage_: no, I'm running new X | 07:11 |
| Sage_ | ok, thus me asking wasn't sure about that :) | 07:11 |
| Sage_ | w00t: worked ok so far? | 07:11 |
| w00t | haven't noticed any problems | 07:12 |
| romaxa | Stskeeps: mozilla people have implemented android browser from scratch almost for 6 month.. her it would be much easier | 07:12 |
| romaxa | because most of work already done and ready to copy paste on new platform | 07:12 |
| romaxa | Stskeeps: also if that looks good, it might get Firefox label at the end... | 07:13 |
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| romaxa | Stskeeps: question is only which UI tech more preferable, native Qt widgets (QGV) or QML | 07:17 |
| romaxa | Stskeeps: QML is kinda tricky because IIRC Qt4 and Qt5 qml api's kinda different | 07:18 |
| romaxa | Stskeeps: btw what is final target for Qt 4 or 5 ? | 07:18 |
| veskuh | romaxa, definitely QML UI, Qt Widgets are not really supported in Nemo. | 07:20 |
| Stskeeps | romaxa: so, nemo's made up of middleware and toolkits to make it easier to do handset UIs and devices, plus a community ui on top (apps, desktop, etc) | 07:21 |
| Stskeeps | romaxa: the current stack is qt4.8 | 07:21 |
| Stskeeps | romaxa: the future stack is being developed in http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Zephyr | 07:21 |
| romaxa | veskuh: does qt5 qml keep back-compat api for 4.8? | 07:23 |
| veskuh | romaxa, Don't know the official line, but in practice most stuff should work | 07:24 |
| romaxa | veskuh: Stskeeps: is there are template QML application for Nemo with custom C++ backed qml-view/widget implementation, so I can take that and back it up with gecko threaded rendering? | 07:25 |
| veskuh | w00t, ^ do you know of any app with custom widget? | 07:25 |
| romaxa | veskuh: hopefully with orientation change working and some others | 07:26 |
| w00t | romaxa: take a look at e.g. qmlmail.. shouldn't be too difficult anyway, QDeclarativeItem is what you need to work with when working on a custom item | 07:26 |
| veskuh | romaxa, embedding the view in qt-components page handles that nicely. And we definitely need to adapt the qt-components to qt5 when qt5 comes. | 07:27 |
| romaxa | w00t: ok, some time ago I made N9 browser UI working with gecko rendering backend... but N9 browser has ugly mix of Meegotouch,graphicsWidget and QDeclarativeItem... | 07:28 |
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| mikhas | iekku, got anyone in mind who could still help with bug 456? | 07:29 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 456 in Maliit "Maliit needs an upgrade (with significant changes)" [Normal,New] https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=456 | 07:29 |
| romaxa | w00t: ok will check qml apps later, I guess https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlmail is right source location | 07:30 |
| mikhas | someone who has time to write some patches and also test :-) | 07:30 |
| w00t | romaxa: yes | 07:30 |
| romaxa | ok, need go sleep... | 07:30 |
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| mikhas | iekku, my estimate would be that it might take 2-3 days, perhaps a week for someone new to the codebase … | 07:31 |
| VDVsx | w00t, btw about qmlmail would be nice to have qml files added as OTHER_FILES for easier editing on creator :) | 07:31 |
| w00t | VDVsx: toss a patch towards it by all means | 07:32 |
| w00t | it may be obvious that i don't use an IDE... :} | 07:32 |
| w00t | mikhas: triage meeting in progress, so everyone's a bit distracted atm | 07:33 |
| VDVsx | w00t, not for me :D | 07:33 |
| iekku | mikhas, need to think about that | 07:34 |
| mikhas | VDVsx, hey! go fix 456 then, the relevant code is 1) ugly, 2) Harmattan-ish. You should feel right at home ;-) | 07:34 |
| mikhas | VDVsx, perhaps you can add e-mail functionality to Maliit while you are at it. | 07:35 |
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| VDVsx | mikhas, lol, so you're calling your code ugly ? :P :D | 07:38 |
| mikhas | yes | 07:40 |
| mikhas | I have the confidence in saying so because I wrote it. | 07:40 |
| VDVsx | :D | 07:41 |
| w00t | doesn't everyone think their code is ugly? ;) | 07:41 |
| mikhas | Yes, but I for one also *know* that the particular code is ugly. It's more than an opinion. | 07:41 |
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| mikhas | w00t, self-compositing was always a Harmattan hack. A clever one (with lots of testing!) but still just a hack. | 07:42 |
| w00t | it's kind of unfortunate that transparency performs so badly. I'd really rather use it. | 07:43 |
| mikhas | w00t, wayland … | 07:44 |
| w00t | yeah, well ;) | 07:44 |
| mikhas | it's the damage protocol of X11 that makes transparency slow | 07:44 |
| mikhas | wayland gets that one bit right | 07:44 |
| w00t | it's coming, certainly, but we still have a lot of other fish to fry | 07:44 |
| mikhas | (by doing an inversion of control on said damage protocol) | 07:45 |
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| slaine | I love that captain symbol inspired logo | 07:48 |
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| slaine | https://twitter.com/realnorth/status/241530364189892609/photo/1/large | 07:49 |
| cckwes | the font is very nice! | 07:56 |
| Sage_ | grr... not my day... some nemo images were not synced properly to the repo :/ | 07:58 |
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| faenil | morning people | 08:00 |
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| pvuorela | mikhas: iekku, could take a look into that. | 08:04 |
| pvuorela | and regret later saying this :) | 08:05 |
| iekku | pvuorela, :D | 08:05 |
| pvuorela | and even without that, the state of the qml plugin is annoying me quite a bit. | 08:07 |
| mikhas | yes | 08:08 |
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| faenil | iekku o/ | 08:12 |
| iekku | faenil, \o | 08:13 |
| iekku | Sage_, about the released bugs, in which release they are released | 08:16 |
| iekku | Sage_, ping? | 08:20 |
| faenil | dead :) | 08:21 |
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| Sage_ | iekku: just mark them as released. | 08:22 |
| iekku | ok | 08:22 |
| iekku | Sage_, done | 08:23 |
| Sage_ | thx | 08:23 |
| Sage_ | I couldn't do that btw | 08:23 |
| iekku | Sage_, i need to check wht | 08:25 |
| iekku | why | 08:25 |
| faenil | commented on that | 08:25 |
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| iekku | Sage_, can i impersonate as you? | 08:27 |
| faenil | that bug isn't fixed.. | 08:27 |
| Sage_ | iekku: I guess :) | 08:30 |
| iekku | Sage_, ok. thanks | 08:30 |
| iekku | hmm, can't do that for some reason | 08:35 |
| iekku | Sage_, changed a bit your settings | 08:35 |
| cckwes | http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/0.20120920.1.NEMO.2012-10-07.1/images/nemo-handset-i586-vm/ the i586 vm img not up yet? | 08:35 |
| Sage_ | cckwes: coming soonish | 08:37 |
| Sage_ | sync failed to repo :/ | 08:37 |
| Sage_ | X-Fade: ^ can you resync that? | 08:37 |
| * faenil is changing the bug status , since he's being ignored :P | 08:37 | |
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| cckwes | thanks :) | 08:39 |
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| faenil | dm8tbr, your business card is looking at me...scary | 08:46 |
| faenil | better hide that one :P | 08:47 |
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| mikhas | pvuorela, hopefully some useful pointers to get started: https://bugs.maliit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=192 | 08:52 |
| Merbot | bugs.maliit.org bug 192 in Nemo Keyboard "Self-compositing does not work for QML plugins" [Normal,Confirmed] | 08:52 |
| mikhas | thanks Merbot, here, have a cookie | 08:52 |
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| dm8tbr | faenil: hehe | 08:59 |
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| faenil | lessons, bbl | 09:10 |
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| w00t | VDVsx: so, if messageserver is stuck using 100% CPU, is there anything i can easily do to get logs out of it or something? | 09:51 |
| VDVsx | w00t, by default logs should be going to the terminal that you're using or syslog | 09:54 |
| VDVsx | w00t, is that new qmf or the old one from November ? | 09:54 |
| w00t | mm I'm not seeing anything, this is on my mac though | 09:54 |
| w00t | not mer | 09:54 |
| VDVsx | w00t, did you start it in a separated shell ? if so there was something printed there on startup ? | 09:55 |
| w00t | no, nothing printed | 09:56 |
| Sage_ | cckwes: images synced now | 09:56 |
| VDVsx | w00t, do you have this one your qmake: DEFINES+=QMF_ENABLE_LOGGING ? | 09:56 |
| cckwes | got it, thanks | 09:57 |
| w00t | VDVsx: nope :) | 09:57 |
| w00t | I'll try add it | 09:57 |
| VDVsx | w00t, if logs are working you should see some prints on startup of the daemon | 09:58 |
| w00t | hmmph | 10:00 |
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| Sage_ | w00t: you have the xorg update on your n950/n9? | 10:30 |
| w00t | yes | 10:30 |
| Sage_ | w00t: can you test if tv-out works on it | 10:30 |
| w00t | no.. i have no tv :P | 10:30 |
| Sage_ | ah :D | 10:30 |
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| Sage_ | well, I guess time to reinstall the xorg stuff then ;) | 10:31 |
| w00t | has that made it through review yet? | 10:33 |
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| Sage_ | w00t: not yet as Stskeeps haven't started creating new snapshot yet | 10:44 |
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| Sage_ | g10 | 11:01 |
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| Sage_ | w00t: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=libdeclarative-grilo.spec&package=libdeclarative-grilo&project=home%3Amsameer%3Agrilo&rev=6d9ff85638909ed6359cce87793e2986 should this be named nemo-qml-plugins-grilo? | 11:46 |
| Sage_ | after all it installs file %{_libdir}/qt4/imports/org/nemomobile/grilo/* | 11:46 |
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| w00t | it would match more with everything else, yes | 11:46 |
| Sage_ | ok that it will be then | 11:57 |
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| Sage_ | g9 | 12:08 |
| * Sage_ ponders why the space is always on the wrong place ;) | 12:08 | |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6963 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6963 | 12:53 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6964 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6964 | 13:09 |
| veskuh | Any idea what package should provide QtMultimedia? I though I had all related stuff installed but cant find libQtMultimedia | 13:10 |
| Stskeeps | qt mobility? | 13:10 |
| veskuh | have it | 13:10 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 13:10 |
| veskuh | that one is multimediakit I think | 13:10 |
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| veskuh | Argh, apparently you should no longer use QT+=multimedia in .pro | 13:17 |
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| cckwes | help needed, booting on virtualbox freeze after "process timed ....." just the same as shown here https://twitter.com/DicksonBeta/status/255285023643668481/photo/1/large | 13:40 |
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| VDVsx | Sage_, any idea ^ just got the same result with latest image | 14:15 |
| w00t | phdeswer_: you know a thing or two about mce, right? | 14:15 |
| Stskeeps | host-alt-f2 , rpm -qa | grep vesa | 14:15 |
| phdeswer_ | w00t, not really that much. But I can try to help out | 14:16 |
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| w00t | phdeswer: in particular wondering what it does re: screen locking | 14:17 |
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| phdeswer | w00t, afaik the screen lock itself is systemui. | 14:17 |
| w00t | it was, now it's lipstick, I know the UI part of it, and I know that mce asks the UI to lock itself | 14:18 |
| phdeswer | And mce tracks inactivity and will signal when the screen needs to be locked. | 14:18 |
| w00t | what I don't know is why mce needs to know why the screen is locked itself | 14:18 |
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| phdeswer | I think that has to do with turning off certain sensors and react differently to buttons etc | 14:19 |
| Sage_ | oh, ffs. the vesa driver didn't make to the image | 14:19 |
| Stskeeps | argh | 14:19 |
| * Sage_ ponders what the heck went wrong | 14:20 | |
| w00t | phdeswer: hmmm, ok | 14:20 |
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| Vesuri | w00t: which part of the screen locking are you referring to? I may remember some explanations for some things :) | 14:21 |
| phdeswer | w00t, not 100% sure but I can try to find out | 14:21 |
| w00t | https://github.com/nemomobile/mce/blob/master/tklock.c#L1021 doesn't seem to actually do a lot, is all | 14:21 |
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| w00t | apart from attempt a relock if it explicitly got an error | 14:22 |
| w00t | (I guess that's what setup_tklock_unlock_timeout does) | 14:22 |
| Vesuri | is that the thing that gets called by system-ui (the callback)? | 14:23 |
| Sage_ | phaeron: any possibility to find out why https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=pattern-x86-vm&project=CE%3AAdaptation%3Ax86-generic didn't update pattern properly? | 14:23 |
| w00t | I don't know for sure, but I'm thinking so yes | 14:23 |
| * w00t wasn't familiar with this code before now | 14:23 | |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: code is there but obs just didn't update the pattern :/ | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:24 |
| Vesuri | w00t: I'm not sure I understand your question up there ("what I don't know is why mce needs to know why the screen is locked itself") | 14:24 |
| w00t | Vesuri: why does mce need a callback? | 14:25 |
| Stskeeps | to turn off touch input? | 14:25 |
| Vesuri | w00t: http://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/meegotouch-systemui/blobs/master/src/systemui/screenlock/screenlockbusinesslogic.cpp#line144 gets called when the user unlocks the lock screen | 14:25 |
| Stskeeps | or to turn off after a while | 14:25 |
| Vesuri | w00t: mce needs to know that it shouldn't switch the screen off anymore in 5 seconds | 14:26 |
| Vesuri | like it does when the touch screen lock is on | 14:26 |
| w00t | I'm talking about lock activation | 14:26 |
| w00t | not deactivation | 14:26 |
| w00t | I understand why that requires a notification | 14:26 |
| Vesuri | there is no callback being called during activation, just a return value | 14:26 |
| Vesuri | I may have given you an impression that there is? :S | 14:27 |
| w00t | no, never mind, I understand it now | 14:27 |
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| khertan | Hello | 14:57 |
| khertan | is there a spec expert in the room ? | 14:57 |
| khertan | i m trying to add the functionnality to PyPackager to generate spec files for cobs | 14:57 |
| khertan | so a same script to create dsc/specs/sources.tar.gz | 14:58 |
| khertan | but i'm fighting against spec auto magic features :) | 14:58 |
| khertan | i didn't understand where does this cd come from https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=PyPackager&project=home%3Akhertan&repository=Mer_Core_armv7l | 14:58 |
| khertan | the spec file is here :https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=pypackager_3.6.0-5.spec&package=PyPackager&project=home%3Akhertan&rev=657a82780765aa4aec36a20610ec6397 | 14:59 |
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| Sage_ | khertan: it is the %setup that does that | 14:59 |
| w00t | phdeswer: by the way, did you reproduce the USB-makes-stuff-slow issue? | 14:59 |
| khertan | Sage_, thx | 15:00 |
| phdeswer | Not yet, noticed a bug in my kernel work and spent the whole evening fixing that. | 15:00 |
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| w00t | phdeswer: ok | 15:03 |
| phdeswer | w00t, any links to that -next image you used in case I cannot reproduce it with the release I have? | 15:04 |
| w00t | it should be the latest release, I think Sage_ made a release today | 15:05 |
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| phdeswer | ok. will check it later. Just flashed it. | 15:10 |
| phdeswer | w00t, good and bad news. Good news I got it reproduced, bad news no clue yet. | 15:18 |
| w00t | well at least you can reproduce | 15:18 |
| w00t | (and i'm not going crazy) | 15:18 |
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| * phdeswer wonders if it has to do with all those power_supply notifications | 15:21 | |
| w00t | hmm, but they aren't constant, are they? | 15:22 |
| faenil | should the wifi autoconnect? | 15:25 |
| phdeswer | w00t, just wonder why the debugging is enabled. And there seems to be a lot of activity there. | 15:32 |
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| phdeswer | Hmm, we have iotop but no kernel support to run it. | 15:45 |
| Stskeeps | feel free to add | 15:46 |
| Stskeeps | does it cause a perf slowdown? | 15:46 |
| phdeswer | Stskeeps, might be a small hit. IO accounting. | 15:47 |
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| Stskeeps | ok | 15:47 |
| Stskeeps | just note it in changelog | 15:47 |
| phdeswer | Stskeeps, will first take a look at the impact | 15:48 |
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| Sage_ | phdeswer: it should be added to the -debug kernel bte | 15:55 |
| Sage_ | btw* | 15:55 |
| Sage_ | we have separate -debug kernel | 15:55 |
| phdeswer | Sage_, ah ok. LEt me grab that one then. | 15:55 |
| Sage_ | though it might not be up to date compared to the normal kernel atm. but anyway things like those should go to the -debug kernel config so that those do not give perfomance hit for normal use | 15:56 |
| Sage_ | phdeswer: there is a catch in that | 15:56 |
| Sage_ | phdeswer: you need to branch the kernel-adaptation-n950 from the CE:Adaptation:N950-N9 and then do local linkpac from kernel-adaptation-n950-debug to that package locally there | 15:56 |
| phdeswer | And that would be? | 15:56 |
| Sage_ | there are two .spec files and which one is built depends on the obs package name | 15:57 |
| phdeswer | Sage_, well at first I would just get iotop to work to see if something weird is happening there in regard to the usb/slowness issue | 15:58 |
| Sage_ | sure | 15:58 |
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| faenil | still getting Additional rpm output: | 16:23 |
| faenil | Failed to get D-Bus connection: No connection to service manager. | 16:23 |
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| faenil | when I update packages in SDK's n950 target | 16:23 |
| faenil | openssh, plymouth-lite, bluez, boardname...which is in some cases result in "erase failed" | 16:25 |
| faenil | I'm just ignoring errors, but is that wanted? I remember we already talked about this in the past | 16:27 |
| faenil | and there was a solution proposed iirc | 16:28 |
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| phdeswer | w00t, about the mystery bug. Seems it is unrelated to any usb modules being loaded. Usb-moded seems to be innocent too. But no IO, nothing. I am stumped. Need to sleep over it to think about a good approach to find this weird behaviour | 16:45 |
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| anYc | is armv7tnhl only (possible?) for n9/n950? | 17:08 |
| faenil | ouch, after updating packages, gallery now shows no pictures... | 17:11 |
| faenil | and I get MDeclarativeStatusBar "The name com.meego.core.MStatusBar was not provided by any .service files" | 17:11 |
| faenil | in the log files | 17:11 |
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| faenil | any idea anyone? | 17:14 |
| faenil | fixed, I was root :P | 17:15 |
| faenil | though the MDeclarativeStatusBar "The name com.meego.core.MStatusBar was not provided by any .service files" | 17:16 |
| faenil | is a new error... | 17:16 |
| faenil | cos-, pinching has problems... :P | 17:21 |
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| special | faenil: it shows up now because of a patch I did to qt-components, it's not dangerous. | 17:26 |
| faenil | special, alright, thanks ;) | 17:26 |
| special | before, it would waste time on startup checking if the service existed | 17:27 |
| faenil | special, so is it normal that there is no topbar at the moment, right | 17:27 |
| faenil | it is* | 17:27 |
| special | are you running over ssh? | 17:28 |
| special | over ssh, you have to set the dbus session or there has never been a statusbar (and a lot of other things get confused, including tracker) | 17:28 |
| faenil | special, yeah just wanted to confirm that it was the same behaviour as before | 17:31 |
| faenil | ok ;) | 17:31 |
| special | I think w00t has a good script for that | 17:31 |
| faenil | special, ok I'll ask him, thanks ;) | 17:32 |
| faenil | special, what about no files on root user? why does that happen? | 17:32 |
| special | different tracker database | 17:32 |
| faenil | oh alright | 17:32 |
| faenil | and why isn't root's updated? | 17:33 |
| special | because nothing is ever supposed to run as root :p | 17:33 |
| faenil | :D | 17:33 |
| faenil | and just out of curiosity, how can you update it? | 17:33 |
| special | well, it probably wouldn't index the same files anyway (there's a file under ~nemo that tells tracker what to index) | 17:34 |
| special | but something with tracker-control | 17:34 |
| faenil | ok | 17:34 |
| special | -f maybe? | 17:34 |
| faenil | doesn't matter ;) | 17:34 |
| faenil | special, have you already read cos-'s patch? | 17:36 |
| faenil | or are you planning to? | 17:36 |
| special | I glanced at it, I haven't had time to look at it properly yet | 17:36 |
| faenil | ok | 17:36 |
| special | should be able to sometime today | 17:36 |
| faenil | I just left a comment, pinching needs work | 17:36 |
| faenil | alright, thanks ;) | 17:36 |
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| cos- | faenil: ok.. what's wrong? | 18:42 |
| faenil | cos-, commented the PR ;) | 18:42 |
| cos- | faenil: i already fixed some of the stuff in my branch | 18:42 |
| cos- | ok, i'll check it tomorrow | 18:42 |
| faenil | I pulled last updates from your online branch this afternoon | 18:43 |
| faenil | don't know if you're talking about local changes | 18:43 |
| cos- | then you should have them. | 18:44 |
| faenil | yes | 18:46 |
| faenil | did you read the new comment on the PR? | 18:46 |
| cos- | not yet.. | 18:51 |
| faenil | that's what I'm referring to ;) | 18:51 |
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| cos- | i'll have to check it out. does exopc even support rotation? | 18:54 |
| faenil | cos-, no idea about that, sorry | 18:55 |
| cos- | that's the only device i tested yesterday | 18:55 |
| faenil | eh :) | 18:55 |
| cos- | i probably don't have time to work on the bug at least for a couple of days. i coded all weekend an have some other stuff to do this week. | 18:57 |
| cos- | i just hope fling/pinch work the same way on different devices.. otherwise it'll be difficult to fix | 18:57 |
| faenil | no problem, keep me updated ;) I'll be working on other bugs in the meanwhile, hoping not to cause problems with the new structure | 18:59 |
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| faenil | about different devices, it should... | 18:59 |
| faenil | I've always only tried it on my n950 though | 19:00 |
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| cos- | i have a spare N900 but i use it as my work phone currently | 19:01 |
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| faenil | I see... | 19:01 |
| faenil | back in 1h, see you later ;) | 19:01 |
| w00t | pinch won't work on the n900 | 19:01 |
| faenil | w00t, right, that's for sure | 19:02 |
| w00t | it isn't mt | 19:02 |
| faenil | nope | 19:02 |
| cos- | yeah.. it has single touch | 19:02 |
| faenil | and about that, a zoom slider is still missing in the gallery | 19:03 |
| faenil | for singletouch devices | 19:03 |
| cos- | can singletouch be detected in qml? | 19:03 |
| faenil | mm no idea | 19:04 |
| w00t | it's not something i'd worry about [too much] at this point | 19:04 |
| cos- | it would be trivial to implement though | 19:04 |
| cos- | (the slider) | 19:05 |
| faenil | w00t, not a priority, but there aren't many big issues with gallery atm (that I know of) | 19:05 |
| w00t | faenil: so find more interesting challenges - there's plenty of other things to do :) | 19:05 |
| faenil | w00t, :D | 19:05 |
| faenil | w00t, but as of now, "once upon a time" episode! :D | 19:06 |
| faenil | bbl ;) | 19:06 |
| cos- | working xorg & booting kernel would be a nice features :-) | 19:06 |
| w00t | cos-: talking about x86 specifically? well.. we don't have loads of people working on x86, so somewhat unfortunately, it lacks attention imo | 19:07 |
| w00t | kernel boots afaik provided you don't try upgrade it | 19:07 |
| cos- | yep, i was talking about the upgraded kernel | 19:09 |
| * w00t thinks we have a bug about that someplace | 19:10 | |
| w00t | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=179 | 19:10 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 179 in x86-generic "Device doesn't boot after kernel update" [Normal,New] | 19:10 |
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| gena2x | hello. just simple question, is it possible to use gsm calls on n900 with nemo? | 19:52 |
| tadzik | yes | 19:52 |
| gena2x | i mean to call/receive calls | 19:52 |
| tadzik | yes, it works fine | 19:52 |
| gena2x | cooool | 19:52 |
| gena2x | installing =) | 19:52 |
| tadzik | I just installed the fresh image on my n900 | 19:53 |
| gena2x | what is the base of nemo btw? debian or something handcrafted? | 19:54 |
| gena2x | like openembedded? | 19:54 |
| faenil | gena2x, Mer, which is based on MeeGo | 19:54 |
| gena2x | so it has own package system? | 19:55 |
| gena2x | (sorry, i never tried meego yet) | 19:55 |
| special | Mer uses RPM, and we use zypper | 19:55 |
| tadzik | setting time and date still doesn't seem to work | 19:57 |
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| gena2x | should not be a problem | 19:58 |
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| faenil | tadzik, it worked here today :/ | 19:59 |
| tadzik | :( | 19:59 |
| faenil | no wait, I just changed timezone | 19:59 |
| tadzik | that worked, yes | 19:59 |
| faenil | ok | 19:59 |
| tadzik | and region, or so | 19:59 |
| tadzik | yeah, Region format works | 20:00 |
| special | time and date should be set automatically as soon as you're on a network | 20:00 |
| tadzik | okay, awesome | 20:01 |
| tadzik | btw, why is it Personalise/Wallpaper2 and not Wallpaper? | 20:01 |
| gena2x | 2.6.37? where you guys got this kernel? | 20:03 |
| gena2x | =) | 20:03 |
| tadzik | when I try to enter wifi password, on-screen keyboard covers most of the screen, even if I slide out the keyboard :| | 20:03 |
| w00t | gena2x: what device? | 20:04 |
| gena2x | n900 | 20:04 |
| w00t | I don't remember, then | 20:05 |
| Sage_ | gena2x: it was build for MeeGo for N900, why? | 20:05 |
| tadzik | yeah, I have the same one | 20:06 |
| gena2x | on maemo it's 6.28 | 20:06 |
| tadzik | I don't think there's a need for a new one just for the sake of having a new one :) | 20:06 |
| Sage_ | gena2x: yes we needed newer for MeeGo.com times ;) | 20:06 |
| tadzik | is "on-screen keyboard is always on" bug known? | 20:06 |
| w00t | tadzik: i'd guess same root cause as https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48 | 20:07 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 48 in Maliit "VKB does not open when closing HWKB while textfield has focus" [Normal,New] | 20:07 |
| gena2x | oh, i want to use f2fs soon =) | 20:07 |
| tadzik | w00t: yep, looks like this one, tanks | 20:07 |
| gena2x | so new one would be desired... | 20:07 |
| tadzik | thanks, even | 20:07 |
| Sage_ | There is currently effort gettin 3.x kernel for N9 see https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/N9_Kernel_update_project | 20:07 |
| gena2x | i'm on n900 =) hope to buy something new from that jolla guys soon | 20:08 |
| tadzik | nemo is so white and bright that I see all the dirt on my sceen:P | 20:08 |
| gena2x | i don't know is it some of you guys or not, but still =) | 20:09 |
| * w00t no longer has a working n900, as it died a premature death | 20:09 | |
| w00t | (RIP) | 20:09 |
| * Sage_ just found his n900 again today when packing | 20:09 | |
| slate | w00t: usb port? | 20:10 |
| w00t | slate: no, it just stopped booting one day | 20:10 |
| w00t | then it started a few months later | 20:10 |
| w00t | then it stopped again, completely | 20:10 |
| * gena2x 's freerunner still functional | 20:11 | |
| w00t | the first time it died was around two days before I was supposed to demo with it on stage, I was not amused | 20:11 |
| faenil | what if I buy a fast response display and plug it to the n950, replacing its original display? | 20:11 |
| faenil | should that work? :D | 20:11 |
| slate | premature demo-effect | 20:11 |
| tadzik | new packages app is nice, but it seems to forget my selections when I get to the category view | 20:13 |
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| special | tadzik: file a bug :) | 20:16 |
| tadzik | I shall :) | 20:18 |
| tadzik | I still forgot to either hack on qmlcontacts or file a bug I wanted to | 20:18 |
| tadzik | maybe this month I'll get it to compile :) | 20:18 |
| tadzik | I already rebooted to nemo, I'll report the bug properly tomorrows | 20:20 |
| tadzik | erm, to maemo | 20:20 |
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| w00t | tadzik: if you have problems, just ask | 20:22 |
| w00t | and stop rebooting :-) | 20:22 |
| tadzik | :P | 20:22 |
| gena2x | bzipped raw image, meh. | 20:22 |
| tadzik | I'll stop rebooting when I have my contacts and battery status :) | 20:22 |
| tadzik | and I think I'm capable of fixing contacts | 20:23 |
| w00t | tadzik: what's wrong with contacts? | 20:23 |
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| tadzik | w00t: importing files cleverer than clicking every single one | 20:23 |
| w00t | tadzik: battery status works on n900 also, as far as I remember.. | 20:23 |
| tadzik | not for me :/ | 20:23 |
| tadzik | I don't wish to click, like, 100 files :) | 20:23 |
| gena2x | which fses supported in your kernel guys? | 20:23 |
| gena2x | to put on sd | 20:24 |
| gena2x | wow, 3 partitions in raw image | 20:25 |
| w00t | tadzik: for importing? | 20:25 |
| w00t | tadzik: install qmlcontacts-tools, use vcardconverter | 20:25 |
| tadzik | o :) | 20:25 |
| tadzik | rebooting | 20:26 |
| w00t | vcardconverter *.vcf in a directory should work | 20:26 |
| tadzik | is vCard 3.0 ok? | 20:26 |
| w00t | should work | 20:27 |
| gena2x | ok, it's easier to dd it... | 20:28 |
| tadzik | if it works, I'll spend the entire tomorrow on nemo :) | 20:29 |
| w00t | brave man | 20:30 |
| w00t | :) | 20:30 |
| tadzik | is there a working mp3 player? | 20:31 |
| gena2x | what can be source of applications for nemo? is it possible to install software from fedora/arm? from android? java apps? from meego? does it have X11 support? | 20:32 |
| tadzik | also: can I trust the alarm clock? :P | 20:32 |
| tadzik | I need to get to work somehow | 20:32 |
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| Stskeeps | tadzik: alarm clock? | 20:32 |
| Stskeeps | how do you feel about rolling your own? ;p | 20:32 |
| tadzik | hehehe | 20:32 |
| tadzik | fair enough :) | 20:33 |
| tadzik | but I need to wake up at 7 tomorrow and I don't feel like hacking now :) | 20:33 |
| tadzik | I could roll out some sleep $n && mplayer stuff, but... ;) | 20:33 |
| gena2x | but you need mplayer i guess | 20:34 |
| tadzik | or just ask some girlfriend to call me | 20:34 |
| gena2x | you still need a girlfriend... | 20:34 |
| tadzik | doesn't need to be mine | 20:34 |
| tadzik | ;) | 20:35 |
| gena2x | good idea. i think it wakes. | 20:35 |
| tadzik | te-he | 20:35 |
| gena2x | and refreshing | 20:35 |
| faenil | ahhaah | 20:37 |
| w00t | hahaha | 20:39 |
| tadzik | hrm. I just made a phone call and it was on loudspeaker | 20:41 |
| faenil | woot :D | 20:42 |
| gena2x | wow it boots. | 20:43 |
| gena2x | so easy | 20:43 |
| gena2x | what's with charging? | 20:44 |
| w00t | gena2x: what about it | 20:45 |
| gena2x | it told me 'charging is not started' or smth like this | 20:45 |
| gena2x | i see no charging indication | 20:46 |
| w00t | what device? | 20:46 |
| gena2x | n900 | 20:46 |
| w00t | ignore the banner (subscribe to https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13 if you're interested) | 20:46 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 13 in SystemUI "Charging not started -message after boot" [Normal,New] | 20:46 |
| tadzik | does battery status work? | 20:46 |
| gena2x | i am usure does it work, i see indicator | 20:47 |
| gena2x | with 1 small line inside | 20:47 |
| gena2x | does that mean work or not? | 20:47 |
| w00t | last I knew, it was workign | 20:47 |
| w00t | working* | 20:47 |
| w00t | whether the indicator works or not, I don't know | 20:48 |
| gena2x | ok | 20:48 |
| w00t | it works on n9/n950 as of very recently | 20:48 |
| gena2x | i can make calls | 20:48 |
| gena2x | but i also have no sound | 20:48 |
| faenil | w00t, though no animation when charging :D | 20:48 |
| w00t | faenil: it works fine | 20:48 |
| faenil | w00t, should there be an animation? | 20:48 |
| gena2x | is this expected? | 20:49 |
| w00t | faenil: if you update, yes... | 20:49 |
| gena2x | how should i update? | 20:49 |
| faenil | updated today...didn't see that.. | 20:49 |
| w00t | gena2x: you're using n900, I'm talking to faenil, not you | 20:49 |
| w00t | different hardware means different hardware-specific integration | 20:49 |
| tadzik | bah. I cannot access maemo files from nemo, and when I connect it to mass storage it shows maemo files | 20:49 |
| special | tadzik: you can mount it manually | 20:50 |
| special | /dev/mmcblk* iirc | 20:50 |
| w00t | faenil: did you reboot afterwards? | 20:51 |
| faenil | w00t, yup, always do | 20:51 |
| special | w00t: does homescreen still not update status properly? | 20:51 |
| faenil | but I'd better try again...I may have not noticed the animation...who knows | 20:51 |
| w00t | special: still broken | 20:51 |
| faenil | confirm | 20:52 |
| special | right, so see if it works when in an application | 20:52 |
| faenil | it was plugged to usb till now, need to make it discharge a bit now :) | 20:53 |
| faenil | let's download something | 20:53 |
| gena2x | but what about sound in calls? should i have it? =) | 20:53 |
| faenil | if the browser doesn't crash :D | 20:53 |
| gena2x | i mean i can't hear either side... | 20:54 |
| w00t | gena2x: generally speaking, stuff on the n900 may not work. there's not enough people with devices testing things (and fixing them) (imnsho) | 20:54 |
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| w00t | now, obviously, common sense dictates that audio in a call should work | 20:54 |
| w00t | so if it doesn't, search for a bug, and file one if you don't find one | 20:54 |
| gena2x | oh | 20:54 |
| w00t | for bonus points, fix it, too | 20:54 |
| gena2x | oh | 20:55 |
| faenil | lol | 20:55 |
| gena2x | oh | 20:55 |
| gena2x | somehow i think that it would not be easy... | 20:55 |
| gena2x | sound is quite complicated topic | 20:55 |
| gena2x | on n900 | 20:55 |
| gena2x | afaik | 20:55 |
| w00t | you'd be surprised how much can be fixed with some small tinkering | 20:55 |
| gena2x | i fixed some stuff on freerunner | 20:56 |
| gena2x | you would be amazed which stuff | 20:56 |
| gena2x | ... | 20:56 |
| gena2x | so now i want some basic things working =) | 20:56 |
| gena2x | not start from fixing kernel... | 20:56 |
| gena2x | and suspend... | 20:57 |
| w00t | well, what i mean is, stuff like that _used_ to work :) | 20:57 |
| w00t | so it shouldn't have broken too badly, one would hope | 20:57 |
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| faenil | last words :D | 20:59 |
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| gena2x | what i can do with bonus points btw? get a cookie? | 21:00 |
| w00t | haha | 21:00 |
| w00t | it means it's easier to bribe other people to help you with things ;) | 21:00 |
| faenil | :D | 21:01 |
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| gena2x | oh opensource... mutual bribery =) | 21:02 |
| Stskeeps | yep | 21:02 |
| Stskeeps | and icecream | 21:02 |
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| faenil | Stskeeps, you seem to be particularly happy this last few days, wonder what's going on inside that company :P | 21:09 |
| faenil | these* | 21:09 |
| * faenil is teasing himself | 21:10 | |
| Stskeeps | faenil: free lsd injections as part of healthcare plan! | 21:11 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, :D | 21:11 |
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| tadzik | sending sms-es doesn't seem to work, aye? | 21:15 |
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| special | tadzik: n900? no idea. | 21:15 |
| Stskeeps | tadzik: shoould work | 21:15 |
| tadzik | Stskeeps: nothing happens on screen when I press "Send" | 21:16 |
| tadzik | the entered text disappears and girlfriend doesn't get a message :) | 21:16 |
| w00t | tadzik: check if telepathy-ring is installed | 21:17 |
| faenil | tadzik, and she gets mad at you not sending the goodnight sms :D | 21:17 |
| gena2x | and it reboots then i open/close kbd | 21:17 |
| gena2x | not funny | 21:17 |
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| special | w00t: if he has a Ring account in messages (which it sounds like), it's installed | 21:17 |
| tadzik | worse. No one'll wake me up for $work :) | 21:17 |
| tadzik | special: I went to contacts and clicked "sms" | 21:18 |
| tadzik | I have no account in Conversations eg | 21:18 |
| special | if you go into messages, press +, does it list "Ring" as an account? | 21:18 |
| tadzik | nope. No accounts | 21:19 |
| special | okay, then check if you have the telepathy-ring package installed | 21:19 |
| Stskeeps | gena2x: rebooting when opening kbd sounds like a hw issue.. | 21:19 |
| gena2x | Stskeeps, i have no issues in maemo | 21:20 |
| gena2x | Stskeeps, no single hw issue. never | 21:20 |
| Stskeeps | yea, but this is a more modern kernel | 21:20 |
| Stskeeps | maemo was productized | 21:20 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:20 |
| gena2x | more modern kernel sounds like sw issue | 21:20 |
| gena2x | :P | 21:21 |
| Stskeeps | Aard: you may find this interesting.. https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/251223_3811604933586_1309929322_n.jpg | 21:21 |
| Stskeeps | Aard: room names at facebook hq | 21:21 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:21 |
| faenil | good night peeps :) | 21:22 |
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| gena2x | ok, on second boot sound works | 21:26 |
| gena2x | through loudspeaker | 21:26 |
| tadzik | I installed telepathy-ring and nothing changed | 21:27 |
| tadzik | maybe I need to restart something | 21:28 |
| special | reboot | 21:29 |
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| Jukk | Anyone here? | 21:30 |
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| tadzik | yes | 21:30 |
| Jukk | Well Hi | 21:30 |
| Stskeeps | wello | 21:30 |
| Jukk | I need a bit help if that's possible | 21:31 |
| Jukk | Whenever I'm trying to install the nemo rootfs, it won't extract the files into my N9. | 21:32 |
| slate | which os you are installing it from | 21:33 |
| Jukk | linux (Ubuntu) | 21:33 |
| slate | errors? | 21:33 |
| tadzik | yay, I sent sms :) | 21:33 |
| Jukk | Show's nothing after the command... | 21:34 |
| tadzik | and received on | 21:34 |
| tadzik | I guess telepathy-ring should be included in installation image :) | 21:34 |
| special | it is on n9(50), apparently n900 doesn't | 21:34 |
| slate | Jukk: takes few mins to copy. how long did u wait | 21:34 |
| Aard | nice :) | 21:34 |
| special | should be* | 21:34 |
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| Jukk | Iv'e waited few mins 'till the command line poped again | 21:35 |
| Jukk | but it didn't show it was extracting the files | 21:35 |
| gena2x | it's so slow on n900 | 21:36 |
| gena2x | beyond usability point =( | 21:36 |
| gena2x | why? | 21:36 |
| w00t | you have the n900, you tell me | 21:37 |
| w00t | or if you won't, at least tell me what you're talking about first | 21:37 |
| Jukk | I managed to get it work once but it didn't boot completely.. Dialer and other stuff didn't work. | 21:37 |
| Jukk | I managed to get it work once but it didn't boot completely.. Dialer and other stuff didn't work. | 21:38 |
| gena2x | w00t, i see reaction to any my action (like select application in menu, press number in dialer) only in may be 1-3 seconds | 21:38 |
| special | check 'top' | 21:39 |
| gena2x | w00t, dialer's 'touch' sound comes delayed too | 21:39 |
| special | that is a known bug | 21:39 |
| gena2x | top is ok | 21:40 |
| gena2x | except one small thing... | 21:40 |
| gena2x | no it's ok too | 21:40 |
| gena2x | swap is 1M | 21:40 |
| gena2x | 11M | 21:40 |
| gena2x | 76M cached | 21:40 |
| gena2x | so memory is ok | 21:40 |
| gena2x | top is 1.6% cpu (quite huge for n900 i think), but still this means that kernel is not busy somewhere in interrupt handling | 21:41 |
| gena2x | that's the root password by the way? | 21:43 |
| gena2x | *what | 21:43 |
| w00t | nemo | 21:44 |
| gena2x | heh | 21:44 |
| gena2x | i tried god... | 21:44 |
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| gena2x | hm | 21:59 |
| gena2x | that's really funny | 22:02 |
| gena2x | it crashes reproducible than i am closing keyboard while i am in dialer =) | 22:02 |
| gena2x | outside dialer it's fine | 22:02 |
| gena2x | problem with launching apps is that is misdetects swipe vs click, so need to adjust threshold somewhere | 22:03 |
| gena2x | still, it seems almost working =) so let's see how mer would work on jolla's phone. i'm going to buy one... | 22:04 |
| w00t | gena2x: please file bugs if nothing else so issues are known | 22:04 |
| gena2x | w00t, ok | 22:04 |
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| gena2x | w00t, one: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=503 | 22:20 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 503 in Other "pin code window: text temporary turns into black squares while clicked" [Normal,New] | 22:20 |
| gena2x | heh | 22:20 |
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| gena2x | i need to recheck my problem with dialer&poweroff. may be it is related to battery discharge | 22:21 |
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| gena2x | meh, g2sleep | 22:23 |
| gena2x | report rest tomorrow | 22:23 |
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