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| deztructor | mornnnn | 04:03 |
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| iekku | morning | 04:20 |
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| deztructor | Sage_: w00t special Stskeeps so, i forked meegotouch base theme from its lgpl version, checked there is no any license references inside media files, so all art is covered by lgpl v2. Now my dilemma is if smb. want to add there art under some CC license (more common for artworks) we'll get 'em mixed. To avoid any collision i want ot suggest to put all lgpl stuff into corrresponding subdir inside repo and all stuff licensed under other | 05:47 |
| deztructor | license terms - into dirs with corresponding names. So, there will not be any licensing issues and it will be possible to put there any available art. Also, it will allow: a) to separate 'em to subpackages under correspoding terms, or b) to put (if licenses are compatible) into single package | 05:47 |
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| Sage_ | deztructor: no idea | 06:20 |
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| Sage_ | stepiro: I ponder if the exopc problem is something that is in nemo or mer atm. | 06:30 |
| Sage_ | err.. Stskeeps ^ | 06:30 |
| Sage_ | w00t: have exopc or ideapad to try the nemo snapshot? | 06:31 |
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| deztructor | Sage_: can u check when u'll have a time (i am anonying, sorry :) SR 6926, it should go together /w controlpanel(applets) changes for flawless upgrade | 07:44 |
| Sage_ | deztructor: you still have the %clean there ;) | 07:45 |
| deztructor | Sage_: oops, forgot to remove, there was too much soap on me :) | 07:45 |
| deztructor | moment | 07:45 |
| Sage_ | otherwise it looks ok | 07:47 |
| Sage_ | though I'm not found of the ordering of things ;) | 07:47 |
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| Sage_ | but it is ok. I prefer %package and %description on the top not after %prep, %build, %install ;) | 07:47 |
| Sage_ | but as said that is ok as such | 07:47 |
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| deztructor | Sage_: i'll make spec cleaner in the next release, i promise ;) | 07:50 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: so what are the input issues with -next? | 07:51 |
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| deztructor | Sage_: SR 6939 :) | 08:07 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6941 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6941 | 08:49 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: no input issues | 08:52 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: with exopc I saw odd behaviour in the ui | 08:52 |
| Sage_ | like ghost picture all over the stuff | 08:52 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: sure it's mer core's fault? check with normal mer? | 08:53 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: not sure where it is | 08:54 |
| Sage_ | tested the vm's? | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | not yet | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | i have a phonecall in a bit | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | then i'll test it | 08:54 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6943 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6943 | 09:05 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6942 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6942 | 09:07 |
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| Sage_ | deztructor: accepted all your requests looked good | 09:08 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6943 Accepted promotion request | 09:09 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6941 Accepted promotion request | 09:10 |
| deztructor | Sage_: hurray :) | 09:10 |
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| w00t | Sage_: did the mlite changes cause any build failures? | 09:35 |
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| Sage_ | w00t: well boss rejected it and I fixed and resubmitted that | 10:04 |
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| Sage_ | checking build failures | 10:05 |
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| w00t | hmm | 10:05 |
| w00t | what did I break? | 10:06 |
| w00t | (sorry) | 10:06 |
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| Sage_ | nothing just so old package that boss has got strickter after previous submit :) | 10:06 |
| Sage_ | not used Makefile in the packaging | 10:06 |
| Sage_ | nothing seems to broke after that | 10:07 |
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| w00t | ah | 10:12 |
| w00t | well that's nice | 10:12 |
| w00t | need to do the same to meegotouch too, I suppose | 10:12 |
| Sage_ | http://pastie.org/4914035 | 10:12 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: telepathy-glib test fails on armv7l | 10:13 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6920 Accepted promotion request | 10:13 |
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| antero | could someone remind me which package for nemo has '/bin/less' =) ? | 10:21 |
| Sage_ | probalby noting | 10:21 |
| antero | wow k | 10:22 |
| * w00t just tends to use more, or pipe stuff to file and deal with vim | 10:22 | |
| Sage_ | use more ;) | 10:22 |
| Sage_ | :nod: or vim ;) | 10:22 |
| Sage_ | with busybox at some point we will get most of that "crap" ith ;) | 10:23 |
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| w00t | i never thought i'd say this | 10:23 |
| w00t | but yay busybox | 10:23 |
| anYc | what's wrong with busybox? | 10:24 |
| w00t | i don't remember, i suppressed most of those memories | 10:24 |
| w00t | i suspect i'll find out soon enough | 10:25 |
| antero | k thanks for the wisdom, Sage_ and w00t! | 10:25 |
| Sage_ | some cmdline options missing mainly I guess ;) | 10:25 |
| anYc | thought it's made for constrained devices. :) | 10:25 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6945 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6945 | 10:37 |
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| * w00t drowns sage in SRs | 10:58 | |
| w00t | VDVsx: any luck on the QMF issues btw? | 10:59 |
| VDVsx | w00t, yes, pkgconfig is broken, just that it installs to someting like /lib/pkgconfig at least in my ubuntu it does not look there | 11:01 |
| VDVsx | w00t, all installation paths are a bit weird :) | 11:01 |
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| w00t | so, mer's package installs it to /lib/pkgconfig? | 11:02 |
| VDVsx | w00t, upstream version, same as the last mer | 11:02 |
| w00t | QMAKE_PKGCONFIG_LIBDIR = $$target.path | 11:02 |
| w00t | target.path += $$QMF_INSTALL_ROOT/lib | 11:02 |
| Stskeeps | if it installs into /lib/pkgconfig somebody needs to get their hands broken | 11:03 |
| w00t | do we set QMF_INSTALL_ROOT to /usr? | 11:03 |
| w00t | we need to do that when running qmake | 11:03 |
| VDVsx | w00t, this is in my ubuntu, haven't check what happens in mer, but here install root is not /usr is / | 11:03 |
| w00t | by default, it's empty | 11:04 |
| VDVsx | so everything goes to funny places | 11:04 |
| w00t | so the above will evaluate to /lib | 11:04 |
| w00t | you need to actually set it when running qmake | 11:04 |
| w00t | e.g. qmake -r QMF_INSTALL_ROOT=/usr | 11:04 |
| VDVsx | w00t, yeah that was exactly my problem, since before I was always setting it to other place(shadow build), but should it be set to a sensible default ? looks like most of the qt stuff do that | 11:06 |
| VDVsx | does* | 11:06 |
| w00t | QMF_INSTALL_ROOT=%{_prefix} \ | 11:06 |
| w00t | the packaging sets it | 11:06 |
| w00t | (in Mer) | 11:06 |
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| VDVsx | so just my issue then, but my question still stands, should it be like that, or by default qmf should use /usr ? | 11:07 |
| w00t | as for "should there be a sensible default"... I think qmake actually has variables we can access to give us the correct install directories, and we should probably use that instead of QMF_INSTALL_ROOT | 11:07 |
| VDVsx | ok, gonna take a action point to look at that | 11:07 |
| w00t | it's not all that urgent though, so long as the packages work (phew) | 11:08 |
| * w00t was a little worried :) | 11:08 | |
| VDVsx | w00t, ofc it works :D something is not easy for other people to use it, that's the problem, should be easy issue anyway | 11:09 |
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| VDVsx | still have very annoying issue with qml apps resolution in my laptop, bottom part is cut and it does not allow me to resize the window, grrr | 11:12 |
| w00t | wow, you have a low resolution or? | 11:13 |
| VDVsx | is like 16:9 (1366x768) | 11:15 |
| * w00t hugs his 1680x1050 mbp | 11:15 | |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6947 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6947 | 11:31 |
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| deztructor | w00t: Sage_ can u create nemomobile/nemo-theme-default @ github? | 11:55 |
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| Sage_ | deztructor: done | 12:01 |
| deztructor | Sage_: thank you | 12:01 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6947 Accepted promotion request | 12:06 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6948 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6948 | 12:09 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: will debug vm in a bit.. i forgot to install virtualbox | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | when reinstalling laptop | 12:31 |
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| w00t | Sage_: any issues with my forking libmeegotouch @ github (and ripping out themedaemon, to replace with the new no-MTF one)? | 12:38 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6950 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6950 | 12:42 |
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| faenil | good afternoon everyone :) | 12:52 |
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| w00t | rozhkov: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1276817&postcount=355 | 12:57 |
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| rozhkov | w00t: hm... i need a hidden wlan | 13:09 |
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| w00t | qmlmail lives on device \o/ | 13:52 |
| w00t | i can't configure it yet, but it's a start | 13:52 |
| phako | \o/ | 13:52 |
| faenil | \o/ | 13:52 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | \o/ | 13:53 |
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| Sage_ | w00t: nice | 13:58 |
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| VDVsx | w00t, ++ :) | 14:12 |
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| w00t | got an account configured with qmf-examples accounts tool | 14:13 |
| w00t | i can't actually seem to read any of my email, which is a little weird | 14:13 |
| VDVsx | w00t, open then or view them ? | 14:14 |
| VDVsx | them* | 14:14 |
| w00t | view | 14:14 |
| w00t | the body is empty | 14:14 |
| w00t | I noticed this on desktop too during a sync | 14:14 |
| VDVsx | I've exactly the same issue on desktop | 14:14 |
| w00t | but it fixed itself up once the sync ended | 14:14 |
| w00t | and it doesn't seem to have happened here.. | 14:15 |
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| w00t | .. | 14:15 |
| w00t | and i restart mail and it's fixed | 14:15 |
| w00t | not nice | 14:15 |
| w00t | still, it's a start | 14:16 |
| VDVsx | one thing in that accounts tool, there's a download limit, so big emails will not show | 14:16 |
| VDVsx | can be changed ofc | 14:17 |
| w00t | yes | 14:17 |
| w00t | not the case, they're small text ones | 14:17 |
| w00t | but \o/ it feels awesome to have email at all | 14:17 |
| w00t | :P | 14:17 |
| VDVsx | :) | 14:18 |
| Sage_ | g 9 | 14:18 |
| w00t | who wants to be the first recipient? :) | 14:19 |
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| VDVsx | w00t, I've a suggestion stephen.elop@n... :P | 14:20 |
| VDVsx | kidding :D | 14:20 |
| w00t | hahah | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | "HELLO, GUESS WHAT YOU OPEN SOURCED" | 14:20 |
| VDVsx | LOLOL | 14:20 |
| w00t | "Hi Stephen. How's that windows phone going for you? I'm writing from the future." | 14:20 |
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| VDVsx | humm, looks like my mac at home wakes up from time to time, or I've a intruder :) | 14:22 |
| timoph | ghost in the machince | 14:24 |
| timoph | -c | 14:24 |
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| w00t | quiet night tonight | 21:33 |
| w00t | o/ VDVsx | 21:33 |
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| ljp | shhhhh | 21:54 |
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| w00t | moin ljp | 21:59 |
| ljp | hola | 21:59 |
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| faenil | w00t, yup, quite quiet | 22:04 |
| * w00t tags another qmlmail release | 22:05 | |
| faenil | w00t, read your bug today, you meant slideshow can start when there are no items in gallery? | 22:06 |
| w00t | yes | 22:06 |
| faenil | ok ;) | 22:06 |
| qwazix_ | can I send sms with nemo, I mean for everyday use? | 22:12 |
| qwazix_ | the messages application says "no accounts" | 22:13 |
| special | what device? | 22:13 |
| qwazix_ | N950 | 22:13 |
| special | up to date? | 22:13 |
| qwazix_ | couple of weeks old, | 22:13 |
| qwazix_ | first image with lipstick preinstalled | 22:14 |
| faenil | can't I store a null inside a qml property? a guy in another channel is saying it is returned as undefined | 22:14 |
| qwazix_ | ok more than couple of weeks old, it's 31/8 | 22:14 |
| qwazix_ | which I see now that it's the latest | 22:15 |
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| special | faenil: yes, but it may depend on the type of the property | 22:16 |
| special | null and undefined are similar in javascript, too. | 22:16 |
| special | not the same, but similar | 22:16 |
| special | qwazix_: does /etc/xdg/autostart/ensure-tpring-account.desktop exist? | 22:17 |
| faenil | special, variant... | 22:18 |
| qwazix_ | special, no | 22:18 |
| special | qwazix_: if you update (there are more recent test images, or you can just zypper up) you'll get that and it'll create the SMS account | 22:19 |
| special | or you could create it manually. | 22:19 |
| special | faenil: it will hold null, but again, the difference between null and undefined is subtle. | 22:20 |
| faenil | yeah | 22:20 |
| qwazix_ | ok, I'll try zypper up, thanks. I'd love to switch to main phone to nemo, and that was one of two blockers. The other one is browser, is there any installable fennec anywhere? even old one? | 22:20 |
| faenil | special, problem is, the guys says it has undefined after you assign null to it | 22:21 |
| special | qwazix_: do you want me to release the package manager with your last PR, by the way? | 22:22 |
| qwazix_ | Yes, please do | 22:22 |
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| special | will do shortly, should be approved by tomorrow | 22:23 |
| special | faenil: that's vague, I can't debug by proxy. Note that a null value may == undefined (but shouldn't === undefined) | 22:23 |
| faenil | yeah that's clear, to me at least | 22:24 |
| qwazix_ | I'll try and put some more work to it next week. I have to set up a proper dev environment though, ssh'ing qml's to the device can't cut it anymore. | 22:24 |
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| faenil | special, here's the example, "var obj = { nicename: root.qmlproperty }, if qmlproperty is a variant with null, it vanishes" | 22:28 |
| faenil | so if you do property variant a : null, and then console.log(typeof foo) you get undefined | 22:32 |
| faenil | is that a normal behaviour? | 22:32 |
| faenil | sorry typeof a | 22:32 |
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| special | wouldn't surprsie me | 22:34 |
| faenil | how does that come? it's null | 22:35 |
| faenil | if it's null, typeof should return null | 22:35 |
| faenil | sorry object | 22:35 |
| faenil | not undefined | 22:35 |
| faenil | otherwise, it holds undefined, not null... | 22:36 |
| special | obligatory https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat | 22:36 |
| faenil | what is that? I'm going to bed :D | 22:37 |
| faenil | ahahah lol, watching it xD | 22:37 |
| special | it's a few minutes long, showing some quirks of the type systems in ruby and javascript | 22:37 |
| special | conventional logic does not apply | 22:37 |
| faenil | ahahaahh | 22:39 |
| faenil | omg xD | 22:39 |
| faenil | ok, so he just has to make do with it | 22:41 |
| special | yup. | 22:41 |
| faenil | or maybe it's worth filing a qml bug? | 22:41 |
| special | it's likely not a bug | 22:41 |
| faenil | ok ;) | 22:42 |
| faenil | special, before I go to bed, some discussion about bugs, do you feel like it? :D | 22:42 |
| special | feel free | 22:43 |
| faenil | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=397 | 22:44 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 397 in Photos/Gallery "Going to full screen mode and back isn't possible when user has zoomed image" [Normal,New] | 22:44 |
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| faenil | onTap: wait for doubleclick timer to end, if a doubleclick isn't issued, enable/disable fullscreen mode | 22:44 |
| faenil | that's my idea to make doubleclick and clicktofullscreenandback coexist | 22:45 |
| w00t | qwazix_: helium is a lot faster to start if you update btw | 22:45 |
| faenil | in a zoomed image | 22:45 |
| faenil | and that has to be also applied when the image is zoomed out to add doubleclick-to-zoom-in | 22:46 |
| qwazix_ | w00t, I'm updating now and I'll check it out. But it's not the slowness that bothers me, most of the times pages don't load at all with helium for some reason. It gets stuck in about 20% forever | 22:46 |
| w00t | qwazix_: USB networking? | 22:47 |
| qwazix_ | wifi | 22:47 |
| w00t | mmm | 22:47 |
| w00t | could be that it isn't the browser that's your problem | 22:47 |
| w00t | wifi on n950 is a bit unreliable for reasons that should really be researched a bit more | 22:47 |
| qwazix_ | could be, but zypper works fine (a bit slow but it doesn't timeout) | 22:47 |
| faenil | qwazix_, it does timeout here, most of the times | 22:48 |
| qwazix_ | faenil, zypper or helium? | 22:48 |
| faenil | zypper | 22:48 |
| w00t | turn power saving mode off and it'll probably help a bit | 22:48 |
| w00t | but that isn't a real solution | 22:49 |
| special | faenil: I actually favor reworking the toolbar so that fullscreen is not an explicit "mode" | 22:49 |
| qwazix_ | it's already off | 22:49 |
| faenil | w00t, yeah I do that when I have problems | 22:49 |
| faenil | special, how would that help? | 22:49 |
| w00t | https://github.com/nemomobile/qt-components/commit/02b6b3a1da10578fc8ee3dbd3bcbcf10758a129f is delicious | 22:50 |
| faenil | w00t, eh, like the last sentence :D | 22:50 |
| faenil | w00t, anyway well done :D | 22:50 |
| special | w00t: something I didn't notice during review: neither actually ever uses UIConstants | 22:51 |
| w00t | special: dammit | 22:51 |
| w00t | I fixed that on device but forgot when I was changing git | 22:51 |
| special | faenil: what I'm imagining (which is open to discussion, it's just an idea) is to always be fullscreen when viewing images | 22:52 |
| faenil | and fullscreen in slideshow? | 22:52 |
| special | using a semitransparent toolbar that is visible only when needed and something clever for the back button | 22:53 |
| special | I think there is a bug on this | 22:53 |
| special | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=218 | 22:53 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 218 in Photos/Gallery "Full image view toolbar should autohide." [Enhancement,New] | 22:53 |
| faenil | yeah that's autohide, but if it hides and you need it, you're back to the start :D | 22:53 |
| special | per the comments there, you tap to show it again | 22:54 |
| faenil | and that's what happens | 22:54 |
| faenil | atm | 22:54 |
| special | ah, I see | 22:54 |
| faenil | (it doesn't autohide "yet" but you tap to show/hide it) | 22:54 |
| faenil | problem is, using the tap to show/hide the toolbar is in conflight with using double-tap to zoom in and out | 22:55 |
| faenil | conflict | 22:55 |
| special | right. how long is that timer? | 22:55 |
| faenil | 0.3 or 0.4, don't remember, but that's the standard time for doubleclick | 22:56 |
| special | sounds like a decent solution | 22:56 |
| faenil | ok good :) | 22:56 |
| faenil | in this way, you tap, and if you don't do a second tap within 0.4, the toolbar shows | 22:57 |
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| special | mm | 22:57 |
| faenil | otherwise, you zoom-in/out and leave the toolbar as it is | 22:57 |
| special | with an autohiding toolbar, we might want to change that, actually | 22:57 |
| faenil | special, feedback welcome...atm I think autohiding toolbar included a tap-to-show/hide toolbar | 22:58 |
| faenil | includes* | 22:58 |
| special | in that case, I'd want the tap to immediately show the toolbar, and double tap to still zoom out | 22:58 |
| faenil | eh | 22:59 |
| special | but that wouldn't make sense right now. | 22:59 |
| faenil | and how do you recognize double tap from single tap? | 22:59 |
| faenil | you would see the toolbar appearing and disappearing, and the zoomout | 22:59 |
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| special | by only doing it on a single-tap? | 23:00 |
| faenil | of course, getting the toolbar to show immediately is the ideal behaviour, if we find a way not to make it show when the user wants to perform a doubletap | 23:00 |
| faenil | that wouldn't work... | 23:01 |
| faenil | let's suppose you have the image zoomed in | 23:01 |
| w00t | use a timer! | 23:01 |
| faenil | you want to zoom out, so you perform two taps in fast sequence | 23:01 |
| special | we use a timer to detect double taps now | 23:01 |
| faenil | w00t, ^ | 23:01 |
| special | for the first tap, regardless of anything else, show the toolbar | 23:01 |
| w00t | use another timer. | 23:01 |
| special | if a second tap arrives while the timer is active, zoom out, do not touch the toolbar. | 23:01 |
| faenil | special, so you change toolbar state in every case? | 23:02 |
| faenil | that doesn't sound ideal :/ | 23:02 |
| w00t | special: that doesn't make sense, you need to delay touching the toolbar, otherwise you can't "do not touch the toolbar" | 23:02 |
| special | as I said, it wouldn't make sense now, but it does if we do an autohiding overlaid toolbar (rather than our not-autohiding opaque one) | 23:02 |
| qwazix__ | If I'm not mistaken qml by default registers both single and double taps when you double tap and you have to discard the first one | 23:02 |
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| special | w00t: do not touch the toolbar *again*. | 23:03 |
| w00t | mmm. | 23:03 |
| faenil | xD | 23:03 |
| special | I don't mind always showing the toolbar when doing double-tap-to-zoom-out, I even like it (as long as we have a semitransparent toolbar) | 23:03 |
| special | all you have to prevent is showing it and hiding it on the second half of a double tap, which is trivial. | 23:03 |
| special | anyway, it doesn't matter until that hypothetical autohiding toolbar exists, so just do the timer delay thing now. | 23:04 |
| faenil | of course | 23:04 |
| faenil | special, well I think I'm going to add the autohiding toolbar at the same time | 23:04 |
| faenil | should be straight forward | 23:05 |
| faenil | - | 23:05 |
| w00t | famous last words | 23:05 |
| faenil | w00t, +1 | 23:05 |
| special | then you should play with it and see what feels natural | 23:05 |
| faenil | special, :) | 23:05 |
| faenil | I'll also see how harmattan does it, I wouldn't be able to tell it now :) | 23:06 |
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| faenil | okay so this is done | 23:07 |
| faenil | one more thing (should be shorter) | 23:07 |
| faenil | about https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196 | 23:07 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 196 in Photos/Gallery "Opening photo from file muncher doesn't start gallery" [Normal,New] | 23:07 |
| qwazix | Harmattan shows the toolbar only on single-tap | 23:07 |
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| special | just a matter of modifying the desktop file correctly | 23:08 |
| qwazix | double-tap just zooms | 23:08 |
| faenil | qwazix, what does it do when you doubleclick? | 23:08 |
| faenil | special, that's not the question ;) | 23:08 |
| faenil | qwazix, so it doesn't change the toolbar status right? | 23:08 |
| faenil | special, question is, what if the picture isn't in one of the tracker scanned folders, i.e. doesn't appear in gallery's grid view? | 23:09 |
| qwazix | when you doubleclick it just zooms. Toolbar remains hidden | 23:09 |
| faenil | qwazix, what if the toolbar is shown? | 23:09 |
| qwazix | it remains visible | 23:10 |
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| special | faenil: technically should be displayed anyway. | 23:11 |
| qwazix | and if you continue zooming and unzooming the toolbar goes away after the timeout anyway | 23:11 |
| faenil | special, alright, and what happens when the user hits back? it gets to the grid view where that picture isn't shown? | 23:11 |
| special | would be acceptable | 23:12 |
| qwazix | In harmattan it gets to the grid and the picture that you were viewing animates a bit (zoom in) | 23:13 |
| faenil | qwazix, image not zoomed, toolbar shown, you double click, it zooms in...don't you see any toolbar animation while it's zooming? | 23:13 |
| faenil | special, that means I should also block the list view | 23:13 |
| qwazix | No, not at all. | 23:13 |
| special | would also be acceptable | 23:13 |
| qwazix | toolbar ignores double tap completely | 23:14 |
| faenil | special, looking for your opinion of the ideal behaviour, more than acceptable :D | 23:14 |
| faenil | qwazix, ok thanks :) | 23:14 |
| qwazix | yw | 23:14 |
| faenil | bad news for me then :D | 23:14 |
| faenil | does toolbar shows immediately | 23:15 |
| special | ideal behavior is that nothing is ever missing from (or late to) being indexed, we can't guarantee ideal | 23:15 |
| faenil | or you wait about half a second before it does? | 23:15 |
| faenil | special, well I meant ideal in our case :P | 23:15 |
| faenil | we know what tracker scans, we don't want to rewrite everything or create burdains for it | 23:16 |
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| special | what I said was acceptable above is what we should do for the forseeable present | 23:16 |
| qwazix | You are talking about behavior when opening image from another program, am I right? | 23:17 |
| special | there's no sense in trying to get singular images into the grid and so forth now. | 23:17 |
| faenil | special, ok ;) | 23:18 |
| faenil | qwazix, yes | 23:18 |
| faenil | supposing the image we're opening isn't part of the current gallery database | 23:18 |
| qwazix | In harmattan, there is no back button in this case, and I think that's a sane solution to this | 23:18 |
| faenil | and isn't in any of the folders which tracker scans | 23:18 |
| faenil | qwazix, definitely | 23:18 |
| faenil | qwazix, that's the easy way to get rid of the problem :P | 23:19 |
| qwazix | There is a gallery icon in it's place which does the same thing, but informs the user that it isn't imperative that he will see the picture in the grid, exactly because it might be untracked just as you said | 23:19 |
| faenil | special, okay, thanks for the discussion ;) | 23:19 |
| faenil | qwazix, just what I wanted to do :P | 23:19 |
| faenil | w00t, want to add anything? since you maybe followed the thread :) | 23:20 |
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| w00t | a/me didn't follow it enough | 23:20 |
| faenil | alright ;) | 23:20 |
| w00t | that "gallery icon" is called a "deep link icon" in platform terminology | 23:21 |
| w00t | not that it matters much | 23:21 |
| faenil | w00t, always learning here ;) | 23:21 |
| special | remember, we're not rebuilding harmattan :p | 23:22 |
| qwazix | off topic, the meegotouch timepicker is much better than the qml one, is there a qml clone of it anywhere? | 23:22 |
| faenil | special, nope, we're going further, lol :D | 23:22 |
| w00t | qwazix: it's part of qt-components | 23:22 |
| special | and differently, I hope. | 23:22 |
| w00t | src/meego/extras/DatePickerDialog.qml | 23:22 |
| faenil | special, got your point ;) | 23:23 |
| w00t | (+ TimePickerDialog) | 23:23 |
| qwazix | that one is the slotmachine one, the one I'm saying is inferior to meegotouch one | 23:23 |
| w00t | yes, so go fix it ;) | 23:23 |
| w00t | that's all there is | 23:23 |
| qwazix | That's what I'm thinking :) I just didn't want to start a duplicate effort | 23:24 |
| w00t | submit a pull request when you've got something and i'll be extremely happy to look at it, because i hate it too | 23:24 |
| qwazix | ok | 23:24 |
| faenil | :D | 23:25 |
| faenil | well, good night people :) see you tomorrow ;) | 23:25 |
| qwazix | G'night! I'll be going too. | 23:26 |
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| qwazix | special, after update /ensure-tpring-account.desktop still isn't there, how can I add sms account manually? | 23:35 |
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| special | /etc/xdg/autostart/ensure-tpring-account.desktop | 23:38 |
| special | does messages still say there is no account? | 23:38 |
| special | and have you rebooted? | 23:38 |
| qwazix | yes and yes, it seems zypper up didn't update telepathy ring, doing that now | 23:39 |
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| qwazix | Ok now I can see the account but the messages just disappear when I click send. | 23:46 |
| w00t | check commhistory-daemon is installed | 23:46 |
| special | it was a software upgrade.. should be | 23:48 |
| qwazix | It's installed. I just noticed that now I don't have cellular at all. | 23:48 |
| special | yeah | 23:48 |
| special | the other cause for those messages not appearing is that ring can't open a channel, probably because it has no connection to the modem | 23:48 |
| special | there's a bug for that | 23:49 |
| qwazix | Before installing telepathy-ring it was ok | 23:49 |
| qwazix | i'll try rebooting ok | 23:49 |
| qwazix | s/installing/upgrading/ | 23:49 |
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| qwazix | nah... anyway I give up for now. Goodnight. | 23:52 |
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