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| iekku | morning | 05:04 |
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| Tofe | Hello ! | 10:00 |
| Stskeeps | wello | 10:01 |
| Tofe | I wondered, with this brand new home screen, is there still a dependancy on nokia opengl extensions like EGL_NOK_image_shared ? They are not implemented on the Tegra2 driver, unfortunately... | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | not afaik | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | that's more of a thing for libmeegotouch | 10:05 |
| Tofe | yes, that's also what I thought | 10:05 |
| Tofe | ok, well, I'll give it a try on my lil' old tablet :) | 10:05 |
| Tofe | I'll even try to use zypper... we'll see! | 10:06 |
| iekku | :) | 10:15 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6815 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/6815 | 10:26 |
| deztructor | sage: 6815 - with generic kbd plugin | 10:29 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6815 Accepted promotion request | 10:48 |
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| phako | so - how do I a) add my shiny new tracker to my SDK and b) find all reverse deps of tracker to fix their build? | 10:53 |
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| Tofe | So far, update goes well. Using screen was absolutely necessary, as the X session got terminated in the process... | 11:14 |
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| phako | oh, forget a) | 11:21 |
| phako | osc is quite clever I see | 11:21 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: meego graphicssystem still requires it | 11:21 |
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| phako | grmbl | 11:58 |
| phako | the qtsparql build system is still unbelievably annoying | 11:58 |
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| phako | why were the patches against qtcontacts-tracker not even tried to be upstreamed? | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | you'd have to ask the people who did those.. | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:16 |
| phako | qtcontacts-tracker-4.19.2-fix-field-extended-address-reference.patch | 12:18 |
| phako | interesting "fix" | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | also keep in mind that for many things, upstream is dead as a doornail | 12:19 |
| phako | yeah well. | 12:21 |
| phako | suppose we would be happy to merge bugfixes and roll a release if someone shows some interest | 12:22 |
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| Stskeeps | yes | 12:23 |
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| phako | Do I increase the release version if I change the package? | 12:37 |
| Stskeeps | nah, don't bother | 12:37 |
| phako | meh, should've asked that earlier then ;) | 12:38 |
| w00t | phako: if you spot obviously suspect/incorrect patches anywhere (and don't have time/will to fix them), please file a bug at least | 12:42 |
| phako | that particular patch just disable extension addresses without any reasoning | 12:43 |
| w00t | i've seen quite a lot of questionable stuff dating back to intel, but unless someone touches that package and takes a look, it won't get noticed if it still functions | 12:43 |
| phako | w00t: how do I find out when this patch was added? | 12:43 |
| w00t | actually | 12:44 |
| w00t | I think I know the story about that one | 12:44 |
| * w00t smacks alterego around a bit | 12:44 | |
| w00t | phako: extended address doesn't exist in upstream mobility | 12:45 |
| phako | ah | 12:45 |
| w00t | so if it isn't patched out, it won't build | 12:45 |
| phako | that I figured | 12:45 |
| * phako goes planting coffee while compiling qtcontacts-tracker | 12:46 | |
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| phako | so how do I build an image now with my modified packes? | 13:04 |
| Stskeeps | platform sdk | 13:06 |
| Stskeeps | add repo to .ks | 13:06 |
| Stskeeps | mic | 13:06 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:06 |
| w00t | .ks being the file that describes how to build the image, mic being the image creation tool you run in the sdk :) | 13:07 |
| phako | ok, where's the nemo ks? | 13:08 |
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| w00t | Sage_: ^ | 13:10 |
| phako | next to the images | 13:14 |
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| phako | or do I regenerate them from yaml? | 13:16 |
| Stskeeps | just edit the .ks directly | 13:16 |
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| phako | mic create(cr) fs: no such option: --compress-disk-image | 13:28 |
| phako | is that too old/new? | 13:29 |
| Stskeeps | mic cr raw -A armv7hl .ks | 13:29 |
| Stskeeps | if n900 | 13:29 |
| phako | n9 | 13:29 |
| Stskeeps | then fs instead | 13:30 |
| phako | ah, thx | 13:31 |
| * phako tried "auto" | 13:31 | |
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| Tofe | Well, the big zypper update went quite well | 13:56 |
| Tofe | lipstick works very well, I just lost the wifi but it may well be my fault. Apart from that, it's really ok. | 13:58 |
| w00t | good to hear you like it | 13:59 |
| Tofe | I think that some little details could be improved a little bit | 13:59 |
| Tofe | in lipstick, a big long swipe is needed to change the current desktop, I would prevent a more efficient swipe | 14:00 |
| Tofe | in the software keyboard, there is no "tab" key ==> unusable for the terminal, omho | 14:01 |
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| w00t | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=200 | 14:04 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 200 in libmeegotouch "Terminal does not show toolbar" [Normal,New] | 14:04 |
| w00t | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=349 | 14:04 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 349 in Home "Panning between launcher and switcher is hard." [Normal,New] | 14:04 |
| Tofe | :) I'm quite the average user, eh | 14:05 |
| Tofe | I'm not sure: do the N9 apps for somehow "out of the box" on Nemo ? They are supposed to use the Meego API, even if it is a Maemo/Harmattan underneeth | 14:11 |
| Tofe | s/for/work/ | 14:11 |
| Venemo | Tofe, yep, most Harmattan apps work on Nemo with very little or no extra work | 14:15 |
| Venemo | Tofe, eg. irc-chatter and puzzle-master are two such examples which needed no extra work | 14:16 |
| phako | Tofe: Depends if they use harmattan API/services or not | 14:16 |
| phako | but what Venemo said | 14:16 |
| phako | ugh, need to talk to tbf if we can merge that uberugly contactsd hotfix plugin properly | 14:26 |
| w00t | phako: my understanding is that it isn't necessary anymore, since the bug was fixed properly as well.. hotfixes was just to clean up the db for cases where it was already messed | 14:26 |
| phako | ok, get rid of it one way or another | 14:27 |
| w00t | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=436 | 14:27 |
| Merbot | Nemo bug 436 in .Other "contactsd does not require HotFixesPlugin" [Task,New] | 14:27 |
| phako | ah | 14:27 |
| phako | where does that ***&%&% still get the tracker-sparql-0.10 reference from | 14:28 |
| w00t | hmm? | 14:29 |
| phako | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=contactsd&project=home%3Ajensgeorg%3Abranches%3ACE%3AMW%3AShared&repository=Mer_Core-next_armv6l | 14:30 |
| phako | pretty sure I patched everthing I could find | 14:30 |
| w00t | hmm.. it's not even a direct dependency of hotfixes, according to grep | 14:31 |
| w00t | oh, though this is make -j, so i might be confused | 14:31 |
| w00t | phako: you never apply patch3 in contactsd.spec | 14:32 |
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| phako | w00t: -.- | 14:32 |
| w00t | see the %prep section | 14:32 |
| phako | w00t: I hate .spec | 14:32 |
| phako | thanks | 14:32 |
| w00t | phako: ^ example of something that spectacle does not let you fuck up | 14:32 |
| w00t | (since you don't need to repeat the patches in two places) | 14:33 |
| phako | w00t: yes. it's in the list of things I noticed " - convert to yaml" | 14:33 |
| w00t | bah | 14:33 |
| w00t | wrong hilight again | 14:33 |
| w00t | phaeron: ^^ | 14:33 |
| phako | how do I add my CE:MW repository to https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Ajensgeorg%3Abranches%3ACE%3AApps ? | 14:35 |
| w00t | that's a very good question, and unfortunately not one I know the answer to | 14:36 |
| w00t | Sage_: ^ Stskeeps ^ | 14:36 |
| phako | I vaguely remember doing sth like that for Harmattan | 14:36 |
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| phaeron | w00t: what .. ? :D | 14:38 |
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| w00t | phaeron: in .spec, when adding a patch, you need to remember to list it, and to apply it - in spectacle, you just list the patches in order in one place, and spectacle takes care of listing them and applying them - no worry about forgetting | 14:39 |
| phako | w00t: Are you sure you didn't mix up the mix up? | 14:39 |
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| phaeron | what about -p option and the .applied-foo flags | 14:39 |
| phaeron | that %patch gives you | 14:39 |
| w00t | phako: no, an earlier conversation we've had | 14:40 |
| phako | w00t: ah | 14:40 |
| phako | w00t: that confuses me :) | 14:40 |
| w00t | phaeron: %patch -p? isn't that just the same as -p<num> for the command line patch tool? | 14:41 |
| phaeron | yes | 14:42 |
| * w00t doesn't see how it helps, then | 14:42 | |
| phaeron | if you have patches that need different -p levels | 14:43 |
| w00t | ah, you're saying that it's not possible to pass parameters to %patch with spectacle? | 14:43 |
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| w00t | that is certainly true | 14:44 |
| w00t | it wouldn't be too hard to support such a thing syntactically, I've just never had the need for it | 14:45 |
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| phako | w00t: ah, apparently via Advanced -> Meta | 14:59 |
| phako | or not | 15:01 |
| phako | hm | 15:01 |
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| phako | ahhh, right | 15:19 |
| phako | Repositorys->Add->advanced | 15:19 |
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| phako | hrm | 15:34 |
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| phako | fixed that, now how do I tell mic to pick up my qmlmessages which unfortunately has a different version | 15:34 |
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| Stskeeps | phako: if you had branched it it should be fine with version? | 15:36 |
| phako | Stskeeps: hm, maybe my .ks is too old? | 15:36 |
| phako | it looks for 1.2, by branching resulted in 2.1 | 15:36 |
| phako | took the one from http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/0.20120816.1.NEMO.2012-08-31.1/images/nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950/ | 15:37 |
| phako | s/by/my/ | 15:37 |
| Stskeeps | phako: ok, and it doesn't pick up your package? | 15:38 |
| phako | no | 15:38 |
| phako | I get | 15:38 |
| Stskeeps | show me your .ks in pastie.org | 15:38 |
| phako | Error <creator>: Failed to build transaction : qmlmessages-0.0.5-1.2.Nemo.Apps.armv7hl requires libtracker-sparql-0.10.so.0 | 15:38 |
| phako | sec | 15:38 |
| phako | http://pastie.org/4861000 | 15:40 |
| phako | just slapped the two repos there | 15:40 |
| phako | works well for the other stuff | 15:40 |
| phako | just not for qmlmessages | 15:40 |
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| phako | Stskeeps: any idea? | 16:14 |
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| phako | ahhhhhhhh | 16:20 |
| phako | wrong arch | 16:20 |
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| Stskeeps | it solved itself? | 16:35 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:35 |
| phako | Stskeeps: yeah | 16:36 |
| Stskeeps | good | 16:36 |
| phako | Stskeeps: missed a "h" in the repository config | 16:36 |
| Stskeeps | ah :) | 16:36 |
| phako | can I just add a spec file to my harmattan app to build it for nemo? or will that annoy the harmattan builder? | 16:37 |
| Stskeeps | should be fine | 16:37 |
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| w00t | phako: *can*? you *must* in these parts *g* | 16:43 |
| phako | w00t: what I meant was "can I just use the same repo for both or will OBS explode" | 16:44 |
| phako | s/repo/project/ | 16:44 |
| w00t | yeah, I know | 16:44 |
| w00t | I'm just being playful | 16:44 |
| phako | I know :-P | 16:45 |
| w00t | phako: tried recent nemo out, btw? | 16:48 |
| phako | w00t: nope | 16:48 |
| w00t | you should | 16:48 |
| phako | been a while, was still quite meego-handsetish | 16:48 |
| phako | on it | 16:48 |
| w00t | there's quite a bit of change | 16:48 |
| phako | Is there a list of things that goes into "Group" in yaml? | 16:49 |
| phako | spec | 16:49 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't really matter atm | 16:49 |
| w00t | yeah, we're mildly terrible at doing those | 16:50 |
| w00t | we really should try figure out what to do with them | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | i suggest a drinking game | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | put the package in the right group | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:50 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: every time someone asks what to do with package groups, drink? | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | no, each time they guess wrong | 16:50 |
| w00t | ah.. oh boy | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | goes quite well together with distribution jenga | 16:50 |
| w00t | two shots if you're the one submitting? | 16:51 |
| w00t | if so i think i'd be in getting my stomach pumped by now | 16:51 |
| Venemo_N9 | lol | 16:51 |
| Stskeeps | i think we have a game for the jolla x-mas lunch now | 16:51 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:51 |
| phako | lol | 16:51 |
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| phako | hrm | 17:43 |
| phako | mic didn't tar the image | 17:43 |
| Stskeeps | --compress-to=foo.tar.gz ? | 17:45 |
| Stskeeps | you can probably rsync -aHx the dir though | 17:45 |
| phako | trying the tar | tar thing | 17:47 |
| Stskeeps | also plausible | 17:48 |
| phako | hm | 17:50 |
| phako | black screen | 17:50 |
| phako | ah | 17:51 |
| phako | psychedelic screen | 17:51 |
| Stskeeps | that's a good step | 17:51 |
| phako | w00t: huh, nice | 17:53 |
| phako | that's way better then it was | 17:53 |
| w00t | hehe | 17:54 |
| phako | contact saved with tracker 0.14 \o/ | 17:55 |
| Stskeeps | \o/ | 17:55 |
| w00t | I guess the other side to test is image/video indexing.. special'd know details about that | 17:56 |
| special | what details? | 17:56 |
| w00t | special: he upgraded tracker | 17:56 |
| special | not much to know, really; put images in ~/Pictures and see if tracker-info/Gallery finds them | 17:58 |
| phako | the missing ngf is lightly awkward when you're used to it | 18:00 |
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| phako | the animation when you swipe stuff away is awkward | 18:03 |
| phako | somewhat similar to windows 8 | 18:03 |
| phako | doesn't feel natural as it doesn't follow the finger movement | 18:03 |
| Stskeeps | well, we can't use swipe for obvious reasons | 18:04 |
| Stskeeps | but yeah, animations can improve | 18:04 |
| phako | should account creation work? | 18:05 |
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| w00t | hmm | 18:19 |
| w00t | what doesn't work about it? | 18:19 |
| w00t | you should be able to create telepathy accounts, yes | 18:19 |
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| phako | mc-tool failed, QProcess returned something | 18:33 |
| phako | "Account creation failed mc-tool waitForFinish failed, QProcess says: 0" | 18:35 |
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| w00t | ah.. erm | 18:42 |
| w00t | you probably don't have mc-tool installed on device | 18:43 |
| * w00t coughs quietly | 18:43 | |
| w00t | does it make this less bad if i note that we will hopefully have a real accounts UI sometime? | 18:43 |
| w00t | :P | 18:43 |
| phako | slightly ;) | 18:44 |
| phako | should the screensaver show 2:00 am 1/1/1970 and be bright red? | 18:45 |
| special | I don't know w00t, should it? | 18:46 |
| * w00t glares at special | 18:46 | |
| phaeron | date bug is fixed already in recent mer and connman | 18:46 |
| phaeron | bright red .. well it's to keep you awake :D | 18:46 |
| w00t | phako: different bug titled "lockscreen looks crappy" | 18:46 |
| w00t | phaeron: ^^^ argggh | 18:47 |
| w00t | i'm only used to having one p in here | 18:47 |
| w00t | :P | 18:47 |
| w00t | phako: it was a tech demo, and unfortunately i haven't yet had time to replace it with something nicer | 18:47 |
| w00t | if you're interested in QML, I can point you at the code/how to poke it | 18:47 |
| phaeron | https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlaccounts-ui w00t this one ? | 18:48 |
| w00t | phaeron: i believe so | 18:48 |
| w00t | phako: do you mind a few questions dating back to the dark days of qtcontacts-tracker? | 18:50 |
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| phako | you can try | 18:55 |
| phako | I can always delegate to tbf ;) | 18:55 |
| w00t | i'm looking at contactdetailschema.cpp trying to figure out which field in QContactOnlineAccount contains the local account path and the remote contact id.. any pointers? | 18:58 |
| w00t | nco:hasIMAddress seems related on the tracker side.. but figuring out how that code maps the two is proving an interesting exercise | 18:59 |
| phako | er | 19:02 |
| phako | *massive swap action* | 19:02 |
| w00t | tell me about it... | 19:03 |
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| w00t | phako: any ideas? | 19:18 |
| phako | still trying to get in | 19:18 |
| w00t | k | 19:18 |
| w00t | i don't get the setPropertyChain stuff at all | 19:19 |
| phako | that's tracker stuff | 19:20 |
| phako | er | 19:21 |
| phako | stupid inverse properties | 19:21 |
| phako | I've had a sparql query for the testers | 19:22 |
| phako | let me see if I can find that | 19:22 |
| w00t | phako: well, maybe i didn't explain it properly.. i need to access account path / contact id from QtContacts, but I can't see how nco:hasIMAddress (which seems to be the right property) is mapped into QContactOnlineAccount | 19:23 |
| phako | IIRC the path is on a different tracker "object" | 19:23 |
| phako | that's why that doesn't map directly | 19:24 |
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| special | w00t: actually, I have a contact with nco:hasAffiliation leading to an object with nco:hasIMAddress | 19:31 |
| special | nco:hasContactMedium also exists there with the same value. | 19:31 |
| w00t | honestly, none of this is really helping | 19:33 |
| phako | w00t: you have some contact and are looking for telepathy:/org/freedesktop/Telepathy/Account/gabble/jabber/fb_40jensge_2eorg0 ? | 19:33 |
| w00t | phako: yes | 19:34 |
| phako | which is the telepathy account that "drags in" the contact | 19:34 |
| phako | That should end up as detaulUri in the non-standard field AccountPath | 19:35 |
| phako | detailUri even | 19:35 |
| * w00t wonders how on earth you figured that out | 19:36 | |
| phako | wading through my phone's contacts | 19:36 |
| w00t | special: ^ looks right? | 19:38 |
| phako | maybe the detailsUri path is wrong | 19:38 |
| phako | *part | 19:38 |
| phako | the property chain in tracker is sth like | 19:39 |
| phako | ?contact nco:hasIMAddress ?address . ?account nco:hasIMContact ?address | 19:39 |
| phako | and due to the contact the tracker-urn of ?account is that telepathy URI | 19:40 |
| phako | meh | 19:40 |
| phako | *contract | 19:40 |
| * w00t twitches | 19:40 | |
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| Jake9xx | is there an action to export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS to some file in nemo? | 19:56 |
| Jake9xx | or is the only way to dig that by looking into session bus dbus-daemon ? | 19:56 |
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| w00t | Jake9xx: sec.. | 20:13 |
| w00t | Jake9xx: http://qtl.me/yQn.txt | 20:14 |
| Jake9xx | w00t: exactly, you can also look at dbus-daemon 's session bus instance in similar way | 20:15 |
| Jake9xx | w00t: we could export it to /var/run so apps could export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=$(cat /var/run/dbus-session-busÃ) | 20:17 |
| Jake9xx | sorry for the extra chars. my xubuntu on this pandaboard gives me hard time sometimes | 20:17 |
| w00t | it would be nice to have a less hacked up way to do it.. but how would you do that export? | 20:20 |
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| Jake9xx | w00t: with dbus-daemon's startup script? | 20:23 |
| Jake9xx | w00t: of course if the daemon is restarted, the address is changing.. hmm.. and existing apps would need to have some mechanism to refresh bus address | 20:24 |
| Jake9xx | w00t: but isn't that as it is today already, there is no notification to clients that daemon restarted | 20:24 |
| Jake9xx | w00t: apart having internal mechanism to check for org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply and in that case renewing | 20:26 |
| Jake9xx | w00t: need to think about it but the answer to my q was 'no'. I'm off for the night, tnx | 20:27 |
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| w00t | night | 20:33 |
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