#nemomobile log for Tuesday, 2012-09-18

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iekkumorning03:19
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zchydemmorning05:25
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zchydembtw, I uploaded a video about QuickFlickr running on Nemo/N950. If you have seen the app before, there's nothing new, but it runs pretty well on the device.05:34
zchydemVideo: https://vimeo.com/4959179505:34
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Stskeepslooks great :)05:39
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zchydemthanks:)05:47
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* zchydem needs more coffee06:53
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dcthangthat looks nice07:16
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dcthangbut I think if you can make it with more animation, it will be nicer07:16
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faenilo/ morning people :)09:55
faenilseems like iekku went on a triaging spree yesterday :)09:57
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niqthi faenil10:07
faenilhey niqt :)10:08
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iekkufaenil, ?10:16
iekku:D10:16
faenilmorning :) talking about the bugtriage which was held yesterday :) received a bunch of emails :)10:16
faenilyou know nothing right? :D10:17
iekkunoo, haven't heard a thing :)10:19
faenil:)10:19
faeniliekku, are you in a weird timezone or do you really wake up at 4am all days? :D10:21
iekkufaenil, 5:45 today10:21
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iekkufaenil, 5:00 yesterday10:21
faeniliekku, wow, that's early :)10:22
tadzikmadness10:23
iekkui like to have time to wake up before i go to bus10:24
w00tnah, i'm pretty sure that's madness10:24
w00t:P10:24
w00tthe day does not start before 10am and I'm sticking to that story10:24
iekkuand i need to leave home before 7 to be at office 810:24
faenilw00t, +1 :D10:25
iekkuw00t, i have healthy papers from shrink, do you? :P10:25
* cybette agrees with w00t10:25
iekkuumh :(10:25
w00tiekku: ah, you see, i've never needed to see one in the first place since there haven't been doubts about my sanity :D10:25
lbtreally ?10:25
iekku:D :D :D10:25
faenil:D10:25
w00tok, maybe that wasn't the best thing to say..10:26
w00t:P10:26
cybette:D10:26
iekkuwell, i think mental healthcare in the country w00t is living isn't so good anyways10:26
iekkuso...10:26
iekkuok, now i stop before i say something insulting someone10:26
faenillol10:27
w00t:(10:27
faeniljust read iphone4s and 5 have dual-channel RAMs...10:28
faenilbut that's completely OT :)10:28
faeniljust wanted to share :P10:28
iekkufaenil, i feel your pain *there there*10:29
faenilxD10:29
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anYciekku: 2 hours a day for traveling to/from work?10:47
iekkuanYc, yep10:47
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niqti have 4 hours :(10:51
iekkuuh10:52
iekkuthat's hard10:52
anYcuh okay, I already have a bad feeling about traveling 1h in the future (instead of 15 minutes per bike now)10:53
niqtnext year in formula1 :)10:54
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iekkuanYc, i walk 20 mins or bike 10, afer that 35mins at bus and walking to office10:55
iekkudistance 36 km10:55
faenilbbl10:56
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anYcmust be a fulfilling job :)10:59
iekkuhmm?11:03
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anYcI could not motivate myself to travel that long every day :)11:31
Stskeepsi travel from my bed to my next door offie11:31
Stskeepsoffice11:31
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anYchehe, that sounds desirable. although being forced to get out of home every day, might be better for my social skills ;)11:38
lpotterisnt that what twitter and facebook are for? :)11:39
* w00t is still trying to work out what this "outside" thing is11:40
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w00tbeing sick for the past half week and barely being able to move didn't help11:40
specialthat's when you optimize your commute even further, and have the office in bed.11:41
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anYc:)11:48
Stskeepsspecial: sounds like a bordello11:48
Stskeeps:P11:48
special..I guess I should put a shirt on now.11:49
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w00tspecial: that's pretty much how things went up until today12:06
w00tI made it out of bed today.12:06
w00tand now I'm tempted to go back into it, now I see what a mess the cats have been making the past day.12:06
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#6753 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/675313:27
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crevetormorning all13:56
Stskeepsmorn crevetor13:59
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Sage_deztructor: about your sr's lets break the packaging to pieces now when at it.15:47
Sage_deztructor: lets say someone wants the bluez plugin but session plugin breaks the system15:49
Sage_deztructor: see https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=contextkit-meego&project=CE%3AMW%3AShared15:49
Sage_deztructor: also contextkit-plugin-n950-n9 should be really called contextkit-plugin-n950-n9-battery that provides contextkit-plugin-battery or so.15:49
Sage_deztructor: so master package can be called contextkit-plugin-n950-n9 that can be empty but the battery should be in separate subpackage with suffix -battery15:50
deztructorSage_: there will be other plugins15:52
deztructorSage_: we discussed yesterday and it looks like everybody agreed there will be 2 packages: ck-nemo and ck-nemo-n950-n915:55
Sage_deztructor: yes, but don't put them all to one single package as we will have problems from that at some point.15:55
Sage_deztructor: yes I agree about that still. But plugins should be separate rpm subpackages still :)15:55
Sage_ck-nemo with sub packages -bluetooth, -session, -profile, etc.15:55
deztructorSage_: ok, i understood15:55
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deztructorwhy not :)15:55
Sage_We had a mess and problems before so I don't want to do the same mistake again15:55
Sage_contextkit-meego had all plugins in one rpm. We used only 1 and when installed all stuff segfaulted to the ones not used :)15:55
deztructorSage_: it makes sense therefore15:55
deztructorto separate. i'll do it15:55
Sage_so only one plugin in one rpm package. Sources can be same that i don't care so much. as long as you can only install one plugin at the time15:55
Sage_deztructor: also this make it possible for different packages depending on stuff they need. eg. systemui needs contextkit-internet, contextkit-bluetooth etc. for the indicators for example15:56
Sage_We dont want to do "Require: everything you can give me (tm)" even if only 1 file is needed. ;)15:56
deztructorSage_: :)15:57
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Sage_deztructor: can we kill also contextkit-meego-* and merge those to the ck-nemo or so?16:00
Sage_good that someone give more love to that as there is lots to cleanup :)16:00
deztructorSage_: later, i am doing small steps. to integrate small pieces step by step16:01
deztructorSage_: i will take 'em under care :)16:01
deztructorSage_: and separate platform part from it16:03
Sage_deztructor: sure, thx :)16:03
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Sage_deztructor: also we need to remember that when renaming stuff you need to do Provides: and Obsoletes: fields properly for updates16:04
deztructorSage_: this is very good remark, thx! i moved packages forth&back, renamed, discussed etc. and forgot about this important thing16:05
Sage_deztructor: it is always good to take old image and add repo that contains new stuff and check that zypper up installs new and removes old without doing "zypper install newpkg" explicitly16:06
Sage_deztructor: if it doesn't get installed automatically with zypper up then something is wrong. Also remember to check the rpmlint errors when package is built as it spots at least the most generic errors people do with that stuff.16:07
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Sage_deztructor: i've learned this stuff the hardway ;)16:09
Sage_i.e., breaking the update process for everyone ;)16:09
deztructorSage_: it is important. i touched rpm less frequently than apt/deb so think checkpoints are very useful16:10
Sage_which reminds me that we should make rpmlint more strict in Mer (cc: lbt, Stskeeps)16:11
lbtyep16:11
Sage_http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/rpmlint-mini.git;a=tree o_0 why is desktop-file-utils-0.17.tar.bz2 in rpmlint-mini?16:12
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Sage_lbt: http://pastie.org/4748111 snowball compared to template, and pandaboard http://pastie.org/474813416:20
lbt%{kernel_target_hw} is supposed to be a macro :(16:21
Sage_?16:21
lbthttp://pastie.org/474811116:22
Sage_lbt: it is calculated by lua at some point16:22
Sage_anywya I'm quite happy with the template atm. as it works now for me :)16:23
lbtyep16:23
Sage_there are those small hacks that are needed at times but the basics work nicely16:24
lbtand a few more to do git-based too16:24
Sage_n900 and x86 kernels would need to be rebased to that but I would like someone else to do those so that we would get a bit experience from others as well.16:25
Sage_those two have still the legacy meego kernel packaging mess16:26
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lbtI'll take x86 one16:34
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Sage_that should be updated to 3.5.x or so as well16:36
Sage_with the sensor for exopc ;)16:37
w00t\o/16:37
Sage_lbt: while doing that can you fix the README for the example how one can do oldconfig for kernel with osc16:39
Sage_lbt: cubox diff against the template http://pastie.org/474825016:42
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