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| qwazix | morning | 05:24 |
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| faenil | o/ sup boys :) | 10:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: hi faenil ? | 10:21 |
| faenil | hey :) | 10:21 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I've forgtten to ask, but how was the sauna ? | 10:21 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, my Finnish host told me it was relaxing... | 10:23 |
| faenil | I was like....dieing in there :D | 10:23 |
| faenil | men always pouring water on stones | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | you get used to it | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:23 |
| faenil | I could not breath at a point because my nose was burning, I felt it :D | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | and its almost mandatory for doing business | 10:23 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, oh :D | 10:24 |
| Stskeeps | the important thing is to bring cold booze | 10:24 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:24 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 10:24 |
| faenil | :D | 10:24 |
| dm8tbr | and if you are a student (especially at an UT): sing! | 10:31 |
| faenil | it was me, with old Finnish men...I really felt like a real Finnish, lol | 10:32 |
| faenil | they couldn't even speak English, so it was only me listening to their strange words and thinking about my life, :D | 10:32 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: what did you figure out about your life then ? | 10:35 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, I came to nothing :D | 10:36 |
| faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, kept thinking that my heartbeat was going up :P | 10:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 10:38 |
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| faenil | bbl guys, canteen time :) | 10:49 |
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| qwazix | Where can I find the sources for the settings and packages applications? I tried github.com/nemomobile but I couldn't find anything that seemed relevant | 11:02 |
| Stskeeps | meegotouch-controlpanel maybe | 11:02 |
| qwazix | thanks. The packages application? | 11:03 |
| Stskeeps | it might be somewhere on gitorious mg-package-manager or something.. | 11:03 |
| qwazix | mtf probably... :( | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | mg-package-manager is qml afaik | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | control panel.. mtf | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | but some of the panels are qml | 11:04 |
| qwazix | yay it's qml | 11:04 |
| qwazix | thanks a lot. I'll go play :) | 11:05 |
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| faenil | back :) | 11:46 |
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| faenil | one thing about components, are we contributing changes back upstream? | 15:16 |
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| special | faenil: qt-components? | 15:19 |
| faenil | hey special :) yes | 15:19 |
| special | there is no active upstream for meego components, so we are the upstream | 15:20 |
| faenil | shouldn't we contribute back to https://qt.gitorious.org/qt-components/qt-components ? | 15:22 |
| special | that would be the inactive upstream | 15:22 |
| faenil | august doesn't seem very inactive...well at least someone must be looking at it :) | 15:23 |
| special | the last non-symbian commit was april | 15:24 |
| special | but more importantly, there's no contribution activity, etc | 15:24 |
| faenil | I see | 15:25 |
| faenil | special, anyway how are you :) | 15:26 |
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| special | it might be better if somebody put it under gerrit on qt-project, but I wouldn't expect much there for the qt4 version. | 15:27 |
| special | I'm fine, glad to be back in my chair after hiking all day yesterday. | 15:29 |
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| faenil | eh :) | 15:30 |
| djszapi_ | special: I am trying to push my contributions to gerrit. | 15:32 |
| djszapi_ | I have made a port to qt5. | 15:32 |
| djszapi_ | not excellent yet, but somewhat working on Harmattan. :) | 15:32 |
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| djszapi_ | the qtwebkit people were working on that before me. | 15:33 |
| djszapi_ | they had this qtquick2 branch. | 15:33 |
| djszapi_ | it is under discussion but it is not so simple as it was not the main focus until the beta1. | 15:33 |
| djszapi_ | and there are also 108 contributors according to "git shortlog -n -s | wc -l". | 15:34 |
| djszapi_ | so need to make sure everything is alright with the CLA, but since it was on gitorious it is most likely ok. | 15:34 |
| special | if qt-components as seen in the master branch on gitorious is under gerrit, that'd be great | 15:35 |
| special | a qtquick2 version won't help for nemo for now | 15:35 |
| djszapi_ | sure | 15:35 |
| djszapi_ | I do not think there would be a lot of interest about qtquick1 to be honet. | 15:35 |
| faenil | special, Stskeeps told Qt5 will be in by monday-tuesday | 15:35 |
| djszapi_ | and it is also a lot of maintainance unfortunately. | 15:35 |
| djszapi_ | in my work, I dropped the Symbian support totally. | 15:35 |
| special | faenil: we're not porting nemo applications to Qt5 any time soon | 15:36 |
| djszapi_ | since that is also dropped in qt5 itself. | 15:36 |
| faenil | special, yeah that's a different thing :D | 15:36 |
| djszapi_ | so what I am trying to arrange the uptream qtquick2 branch + my port towards the desktop components qt5 branch | 15:36 |
| djszapi_ | so essentially a common repository for the component in case qt5. | 15:36 |
| djszapi_ | that is the ongoing effort now. | 15:37 |
| djszapi_ | for the components* | 15:37 |
| djszapi_ | yeah, that is not going to help the current nemo state if you use qtquick1. | 15:37 |
| faenil | special, though isn't gitorious one the "official" repo for components? | 15:38 |
| djszapi_ | faenil: it is. | 15:39 |
| djszapi_ | that is where we have developed those under the Nokia umbrella. | 15:39 |
| djszapi_ | we have begun that way before the gerrit tool in the history. :D | 15:39 |
| special | faenil: that doesn't mean much if nobody can review (or is reviewing) and merge contributions, not to mention making releases | 15:39 |
| special | and it's covered under the CLA, which makes things complicated. | 15:40 |
| djszapi_ | so is gerrit | 15:40 |
| special | complicated in the sense that not just anybody can be reviewing on gitorious | 15:40 |
| djszapi_ | in general, you need to sign CLA for Qt contribution yes. | 15:41 |
| djszapi_ | but I am sure, I were able to comment on merge requets before sending my first contribution. | 15:41 |
| djszapi_ | I left comments like "this would be nice to get in" when I felt so. | 15:42 |
| special | anyway, it's not a situation I'm worried about right now, because our changes to components are minimal and there's no apparent effort to continue development on qtquick1 meego anywhere else. | 15:42 |
| djszapi_ | indeed | 15:42 |
| special | it would be great if there was a qtquick2 version developed under qt-project that we could eventually use | 15:42 |
| special | stress on *eventually* | 15:43 |
| djszapi_ | that is what I have been pushing forward now. :) | 15:43 |
| djszapi_ | hacking and contacting the ex-webkit maintainers. | 15:43 |
| djszapi_ | to get this into gerrit. | 15:43 |
| djszapi_ | there was a common agreement (lazy consensus) before about a common repository, but the desktop components project is now on its own. | 15:44 |
| djszapi_ | I hope this all can be figured out soon, but this was not really important until the beta1 for the paid developers. | 15:44 |
| djszapi_ | they had to get the beta1 out. | 15:44 |
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| Kypeli | I am running Nemo in Virtualbox. I want to start the Terminal app in order to find out my IP (if any) but I only get a black screen. | 16:01 |
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| Kypeli | What's the right way to know the IP addrss and/or why am I getting just a blank terminal screen? Some other apps I tried seem to work ok | 16:02 |
| Stskeeps | Kypeli: host alt f2 | 16:02 |
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| qwazix | I modified the main qml page of the packages application to look like this http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=197 and the navigation to be more intuitive and consistent with other apps | 16:59 |
| qwazix | The code is now in https://github.com/qwazix/mg-package-manager, what is the process of QA and inclusion? | 17:00 |
| faenil | qwazix, I don't know about the recent OBS changes...but the thing usually goes on like this | 17:03 |
| faenil | 1) create pull request to the official repo | 17:04 |
| faenil | 2) someone reviews and merges the PR | 17:04 |
| phaeron | you should also try to build it in OBS and make sure it still works as expected | 17:04 |
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| faenil | 3) fork project on OBS and update sources | 17:06 |
| faenil | 4) build it and test it on device | 17:06 |
| qwazix | faenil, this was hosted on gitorious, do the pull requests there go somewhere or they fall into the void? | 17:06 |
| faenil | ouch...I don't know who has access to that one | 17:07 |
| faenil | qwazix, anyway nice work on the graphics :) | 17:08 |
| faenil | are you a designer or just do that as a hobby? | 17:08 |
| qwazix | faenil, thanks. I do graphics at work, mostly too. But it started as a hobby. I studied civil engineering in the first place... | 17:10 |
| faenil | :) | 17:10 |
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| djszapi_ | qwazix: opengl too? | 17:11 |
| w00t | qwazix: ask me tomorrow and I'll look at moving it to github.. not feeling great today, so i'm avoiding anything that looks like effort | 17:12 |
| qwazix | djszapi_, no, web graphics mostly | 17:12 |
| djszapi_ | okay | 17:13 |
| qwazix | w00t, ok will do. | 17:13 |
| qwazix | I'll give a try to steps 3 and 4 as faenil said | 17:14 |
| Kypeli | Stskeeps: Thanks! But not sure what that should do. On host it takes me to the F2 terminal, on Nemo VM it doesn't do anything. | 17:19 |
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| Kypeli | Stskeeps: Ah, host-F2. Thanks | 17:29 |
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| zchydem | Good evening... Playing around bit nemo mobile / SDK... Can I have qt5 & qt4 both in the same target parallel, without making messing up things? I mean that can I have qt4-qmake and qt5-qmake both? | 18:03 |
| zchydem | another question... How stable Qt5 is on nemo? | 18:03 |
| Stskeeps | not terribly, yet, adding beta1 monday-tuesday | 18:06 |
| Stskeeps | you cannot coexist development headers of qt4 and qt5 at same time, sadly | 18:06 |
| zchydem | Ok, then I don't dive that swamp yet:) | 18:09 |
| qwazix | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=PackMan&project=home%3Akyranto is this the package I should fork, or is there another one more recent? | 18:10 |
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| deztructor | w00t: can you check and add to nemomobile@github deztructor/contextkit-battery-n950-n9@github | 19:53 |
| w00t | huh? | 19:54 |
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| deztructor | w00t: battery plugin /w open bmeipc inside | 20:10 |
| deztructor | fork 2 nemomobile @ github | 20:11 |
| w00t | I don't understand what you want me to do, you have a repository, you have push access, so just push? | 20:12 |
| deztructor | w00t: push access to nemomobile proj? | 20:12 |
| w00t | yes.. :) | 20:13 |
| deztructor | i have repo @ deztructor but when i want to fork it 2 nemomobile it says i can't create repos @ nemomobile | 20:14 |
| w00t | the repo got created earlier, didn't it? just add it as a remote, and push there | 20:14 |
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| deztructor | w00t: no, repo 4 contextkit-nemo w/o battery plugin, and this package is a standalone battery plugin | 20:15 |
| deztructor | so i separated it. i can, of course, leave it in the contextkit-nemo repo too | 20:16 |
| deztructor | and just build separate package from it | 20:17 |
| w00t | that sounds good, I don't see much point in splitting it | 20:17 |
| w00t | hm | 20:17 |
| w00t | the repository didn't get renamed as Sage_ wanted, I'll do that | 20:18 |
| w00t | https://github.com/nemomobile/contextkit-nemo-n950-n9 | 20:18 |
| deztructor | w00t: a good part /w separate repo is that it does not depend on anything except contextsubscriber-devel and qt | 20:19 |
| deztructor | and can be easily built separately | 20:20 |
| deztructor | to build full contextkit one need to install misc *-devel packages (mce, dsme sensorfw etc.) | 20:21 |
| w00t | i don't see that as much of a problem, though i'm not on top form for this discussion atm (still not well) | 20:22 |
| deztructor | w00t: i.e., IMO, dvelopment of battery plugin should not depend on anything not related to it | 20:24 |
| w00t | I'd take the view that it's more convenient since then when you want to modify/write plugins for a new device target, it's a bit easier since you just hack up one repo, and you're done - that also means you won't end up with a bunch of repositories per device, and it also matches the way things are done previously (contextkit-maemo for instance) - in a single source tree | 20:29 |
| deztructor | w00t: ok, maybe you are right :) | 20:32 |
| * w00t goes to fetch more painkillers | 20:33 | |
| deztructor | w00t: you are in trouble? | 20:33 |
| deztructor | ru ok? | 20:33 |
| w00t | a slightly bitchy case of flu, i'll live, it's just not making life fun | 20:35 |
| deztructor | w00t: definitely, take a tea /w raspberry for a sleep | 20:36 |
| * w00t has to stay up another 30 minutes or so at least, having my cats delivered back to me | 20:40 | |
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| ljp | via UPS? | 21:36 |
| w00t | via family member :) | 21:37 |
| w00t | and they arrived ok | 21:37 |
| ljp | meow | 21:37 |
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| niqt | w00t: i sended pull request for nemo-qml-plugins | 22:05 |
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