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| quixote | Just tried the latest nemo (8-16.......8-31). Incredible job, folks! Looks good. Map function is the best I've seen on any phone. | 02:40 |
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| quixote | The biggest problem I had was with shutdown. Tap battery icon, get poweroff dialog, tap yes, and nothing happens. Pushed power button, got a "system not responding" do you want to shut down? Hit yes. Nothing happens. Pushed power button for 15 sec, still wouldn't power down! Had to take the battery out. (I have n900) | 02:43 |
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| quixote | I should've read yesterday's log. I see the power off problem is a bug others have run into. I can confirm it on n900! | 03:42 |
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| Timmy | is making phone call posible in nemomobile on n900? | 05:17 |
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| iekku | "can't init device hci0: Operation not possible due to RF-kill (132) " | 08:34 |
| blahboo | iekku, okay, one more try :). Let me go priv. | 08:34 |
| iekku | :nod: | 08:35 |
| alterego | Stskeeps: there's a great bit in Doctor Who about Eggs :P | 08:46 |
| alterego | Talking of which. I need some breakfast. | 08:47 |
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| neochapay | hi, i dot`n have any sound on my n900 on last image of nemo, it`s normal ? | 08:49 |
| iekku | zypper doesn't work on my n900 | 08:59 |
| * iekku goes to see bz | 08:59 | |
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| iekku | nothing in bz | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | define 'deosn't work' | 09:03 |
| iekku | gives list of errors | 09:04 |
| Stskeeps | blahboo: the problem is that the UART that bluetooth sits on goes idle at a bad point | 09:04 |
| Stskeeps | and hence not all initialization goes through | 09:04 |
| blahboo | Stskeeps, okay, that explains it. | 09:05 |
| Stskeeps | any patches welcome but we got understaffed in kernel developers after feb11 hit | 09:05 |
| Stskeeps | so it's possible to get working naturally, but.. | 09:05 |
| iekku | sorry for copy paste, but: | 09:06 |
| iekku | [root@localhost nemo]# zypper up | 09:06 |
| iekku | error: rpmdb: Thread/process 688/1077891072 failed: Thread died in Berkeley DB library | 09:07 |
| iekku | error: db4 error(-30974) from dbenv->failchk: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery | 09:07 |
| iekku | error: cannot open Packages index using db4 - (-30974) | 09:07 |
| iekku | error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm | 09:07 |
| iekku | Target initialization failed: | 09:07 |
| iekku | Rpm Exception | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | iekku: looks funny, what image is it? | 09:07 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, does this explain what i ment? | 09:07 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, latest | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | interesting | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: ^ | 09:07 |
| iekku | i file a bug | 09:07 |
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| iekku | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430 | 09:20 |
| Merbot | Bug 430: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, Zypper doesn't work | 09:20 |
| blahboo | Stskeeps, iekku, is there a bug already for the bluetooth power problem? I imagine bug #299 is for the control panel applet only. | 09:33 |
| Merbot | Bug https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=299 task, Low, ---, marko.saukko, RESOLVED FIXED, upgrade dbus-python to recent version 1.0.0 | 09:33 |
| Stskeeps | blahboo: i'm not 100% sure but i thought i saw one | 09:33 |
| blahboo | Stskeeps, there it is: bug #149 | 09:34 |
| Merbot | Bug https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149 major, Undecided, ---, need-triage, RESOLVED INVALID, Wifi not available or bluetooth | 09:34 |
| Stskeeps | right, but i thought i saw more details than that, hmm.. | 09:36 |
| tadzik | good morning | 09:40 |
| Stskeeps | blahboo: log.06-30-2011:[21:24:06]<kimju> and problem is that the uart it's using for communication is shutting down when cpu is idle for n seconds. and while wakeup is working, the uart is loosing first incoming character. | 09:41 |
| Stskeeps | log.06-30-2011:[21:39:12]<kimju> and I've understood that the uart eats the firts incoming character after wakeup, even it has already been powered up before the character is received, not only if the wakeup is happening due received character. | 09:41 |
| Stskeeps | log.07-11-2011:[10:46:02]<kimju> and just small clarification, the uart misses first incoming character at/after wakeup, not entire message. but the h4+ protocol implementation doesn't cope with that | 09:41 |
| Stskeeps | so that's why bluetooth doesn't work on n900 :) | 09:41 |
| Stskeeps | http://pastie.org/4650029 as well for more details | 09:42 |
| blahboo | Stskeeps, good to know. I guess it would be useful to add this information in #149 for future reference. | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | i think it's fixable in userland with a bit of careful testing | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | which makes me wonder who make hci_h4p in the first place.. | 09:47 |
| blahboo | Stskeeps, that discussion was a year ago :) | 09:49 |
| blahboo | Stskeeps, mind if you cut-paste the pastebin content into the bug? | 09:49 |
| blahboo | s/you/I/ | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | it was, but kernel development stopped around then ;) | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | and yes, sure | 09:50 |
| blahboo | ok | 09:50 |
| neochapay | i create l10n repo of nemo :) https://github.com/neochapay/nemo-l10n and tranlate all on russian ! | 09:51 |
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| blahboo | Stskeeps, Ville Tervo seems to the guy who did hci_h4p | 10:03 |
| blahboo | (nokia) | 10:03 |
| kimju | Stskeeps, h4p, or h4+ is a Nokia extension to h4 protocol. It has not made its way into any mainline kernel, I'm not sure if it ever has even been submitted for inclusion. | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | kimju: ah | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | so it's a custom patch of ours | 10:04 |
| kimju | someone could have a look and check if it has anything that couldn't be handled with the stock hci_h4 driver.. | 10:07 |
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| Stskeeps | morning mruk :) | 10:35 |
| * rantom grabs the new Nemo-image to his N900 | 10:39 | |
| * mike7b4_home playing with LED lights on hwkbd on N900 running Nemo | 10:58 | |
| rantom | Odd, I think my SD-card just broke | 10:58 |
| rantom | Device not configured with dd and can't format it | 10:59 |
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| rantom | Any recommendations for relativy good micro-SD-cards? USB/SD-adapters too | 11:13 |
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| rantom | relatively* | 11:13 |
| rantom | I think approx. three of my four adaptors/readers are broken | 11:14 |
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| qwazix | Good morning (ehm, little late, but I just woke up). Is the new messaging application supposed to send sms? I can't figure it out. | 11:17 |
| Stskeeps | UGT functions here | 11:18 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:18 |
| Stskeeps | rantom: just means you've used nemo a fair bit | 11:18 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:18 |
| rantom | Stskeeps: Yeah. :) | 11:27 |
| rantom | I should probably try to find a set of 10 cards for relatively cheap value | 11:27 |
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| rantom | The new UI is just... wow | 11:34 |
| rantom | A massive improvement | 11:34 |
| iekku | +10000000 | 11:35 |
| rantom | Quite odd lock screen though. Red background with white date: 01/01/1970 | 11:38 |
| w00t | rantom: it'll change | 11:39 |
| rantom | w00t: Thought so :) | 11:39 |
| w00t | see https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick-colorful-home/tree/master/src/qml/components/Lockscreen.qml | 11:39 |
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| alterego | w00t: the code that handles flicking from edges, where is that? Is it a plugin or part of mcompositor? | 12:21 |
| alterego | It interferes with the edges of my app that needs to handle an edge flick/swipe. | 12:21 |
| Stskeeps | mcompositor plugin | 12:22 |
| Stskeeps | AFIK | 12:22 |
| Stskeeps | +A | 12:22 |
| alterego | m'kay | 12:23 |
| alterego | Found it, mcompositor-gestures | 12:24 |
| alterego | I suppose I could just remove the plugin for my tests, well, move the plugin out. | 12:25 |
| Venemo | hey guys | 12:29 |
| Venemo | alterego, you might be interested in https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=366 | 12:30 |
| Merbot | Bug 366: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, Swipe lock doesn't work with Nemo's mcompositor gesture plugin | 12:30 |
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| alterego | Cool | 12:32 |
| alterego | Yeah, we need an XProperty to disable edge overriding. | 12:33 |
| alterego | In my case I only really want one edge, and the other three should be handle by mcompositor, which makes things even more tricky ;) | 12:33 |
| Venemo | alterego, the harmattan way works exactly like that. | 12:34 |
| Venemo | you can enable "swipe lock" for specific edges of the screen | 12:34 |
| alterego | Does it? I thought the harmattan way was all edges or none. | 12:34 |
| alterego | Oh, interesting | 12:34 |
| Venemo | alterego, http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Developing_for_Harmattan_Enabling_swipe_lock_Example_of_a_manual_swipe_lock.html?tab=3&q=swipe&sp=all | 12:34 |
| alterego | Ah, well that's a different issue, my issue is I want the gesture plugin to send the input events to the application, where as now there's a 10 pixel border around the screen that apps can't use. | 12:35 |
| Venemo | alterego, yep, you want a swipe lock for that edge. | 12:35 |
| Venemo | don't you? | 12:35 |
| alterego | No, I want to disable swipe gesture plugin :P | 12:36 |
| Venemo | zypper remove | 12:36 |
| Venemo | :P | 12:36 |
| alterego | So I moved the plugin and restarted mcompositor to test my app which needs edge :P | 12:36 |
| alterego | Sure, but that's not a real solution :) | 12:36 |
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| alterego | But I imagine that plugin will have some work done to it soon. | 12:36 |
| alterego | Maybe even by me :P | 12:36 |
| Venemo | yup, solving 366 would be _the_ solution | 12:36 |
| Venemo | I'll be back later | 12:37 |
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| mruk | Stskeeps: morning :) | 12:52 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: commented on the bug about the rpm database thingy. Sounds like something corrupted the database. For my n950 it was ok at least. | 14:23 |
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| Fawz | could anyone give me a pointer towards exploring the reasons for the sometimes incredibly slow response of nemo on the n900? once youre in a menu everything seems smooth, but screen presses sometimes seem to take ages to register | 15:30 |
| ZogG_laptop | neochapay: found russian translator? | 15:34 |
| ZogG_laptop | or u the one tranlating? | 15:34 |
| ZogG_laptop | neochapay: anyway if help needed, you can ping me. | 15:35 |
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| tadzik | bah, Fawz's gone already | 15:45 |
| tadzik | I wonder if anyone else experiences Xorg process to be a memory hog | 15:46 |
| Stskeeps | tadzik: how badl? | 15:46 |
| tadzik | Stskeeps: ~40% sometimes | 15:46 |
| tadzik | that was on the previous build though, didn't occur to me yet on the new one | 15:46 |
| Stskeeps | tadzik: some of it may be shared pixmaps etc | 15:46 |
| tadzik | I'm yet to give it a day-long go though | 15:47 |
| tadzik | wonder how that'll turn out | 15:47 |
| tadzik | so far I couldn't import contacts from vcf | 15:47 |
| tadzik | how do you guys usually develop applications from nemo? qemu with the x86 image inside? | 15:48 |
| Stskeeps | virtualbox, or on device | 15:48 |
| Stskeeps | virtualbox has a compositor issue though | 15:48 |
| tadzik | on a device? Interesting. What language is that then? | 15:49 |
| Stskeeps | ah, we use mer platform sdk | 15:51 |
| Stskeeps | and sometimes qt creator | 15:51 |
| Stskeeps | for sdk, then use a target (virtualbox, device, etc) | 15:51 |
| tadzik | hm, curious | 15:51 |
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