| vdv | how can i close opened app in nemo? | 00:17 |
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| vdv | i don't see any gui elements for that | 00:17 |
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| mike7b4athome | vdv, swipe up | 03:45 |
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| mallat | good morning | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | good morning mallat | 08:33 |
| mallat | I finally managed to test my fix for NEMO#150 on something else than Harmattan so I'm planning to submit it | 08:34 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 08:36 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5563 Rejected promotion request | 08:37 |
| mallat | ooh boss doesn't like me | 08:40 |
| Stskeeps | it's not personal :) | 08:40 |
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| mallat | how do I figure out what went wrong? | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | it should give you an URL to the submit request in your email, i would think | 08:43 |
| mallat | ah ok, browser cache was getting in the way... | 08:45 |
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| mallat | when I update the .changes file, should I bump the version number also? or not? | 09:03 |
| Stskeeps | nah | 09:04 |
| Stskeeps | not if you don't upgrade the tarball itself | 09:04 |
| mallat | ok | 09:04 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5564 Rejected promotion request | 09:12 |
| mallat | hmm, now boss complains there are no new changelog entries, even if I did add a line to .changes... | 09:13 |
| Stskeeps | https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/5564 | 09:15 |
| Stskeeps | i think you need to add another changelog entry really | 09:15 |
| Stskeeps | you can do one with same version | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | well, do multiple with same version | 09:16 |
| mallat | ok! | 09:16 |
| mallat | I thought it would complain about that :D | 09:16 |
| mallat | well, one more iteration then | 09:16 |
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| vdv | mike7b4, got it | 09:21 |
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| rc_ | Stskeeps, jfyi while looking for qmf and imap i stumbled across http://trojita.flaska.net/ which also seems to provide a qml-based ui | 09:44 |
| rc_ | am currently trying to build trojita locally | 09:44 |
| rc_ | once that succeeds i will look into packaging it for nemo | 09:44 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't look very qmlish | 09:44 |
| rc_ | Stskeeps, at least in the source tree there is some Harmattan folder with some qml files | 09:45 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:45 |
| Stskeeps | license? | 09:45 |
| rc_ | GPLv2 | 09:46 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:46 |
| rc_ | according to the license file in the repository root | 09:46 |
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| rc_ | actually it's GPLv2 or optionally 3 | 09:48 |
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| rc_ | alright... with a little bit handcraft i could get the qml version of trojita to build and run at least on Harmattan... | 11:09 |
| rc_ | going to look into the packaging and *.pro files as there seem some things are going wrong | 11:10 |
| rc_ | the qml interface is pretty slick and simple btw and seems to only support one account right now | 11:12 |
| rc_ | hmm well, i event can't find how to send emails | 11:15 |
| rc_ | so, the qml ui is really in an very early stage | 11:15 |
| Stskeeps | does it use qmf? | 11:16 |
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| crnkoj | hi guys, i was wondering if its possible to isntall nemo mobile toa nokia n9, the thing is i can only find n950 images, so i wonder if those would work ? | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | check the wiki, there are instrcutions there | 11:23 |
| rc_ | Stskeeps, hmm, there is quite a lot of imap specific implementation in the sources.. it seems like they are building their own imap connectivity interface | 11:25 |
| rc_ | what would be an easy way to check for qmf usage? | 11:25 |
| crnkoj | Stskeeps, ye im jsut reading through it, it seems the n950 image is fine for the n9 as well, i have one more question, is there like a bugtracker/release notes of it what works and what not ? thanks | 11:26 |
| crnkoj | Stskeeps, i have one more question, i have already the dual boot kernel for nitdroid and nitdroid on my n9, do i first have to flash it stock and than do the procedure or can i just flash over this already? | 11:27 |
| rc_ | clicking through the sources i only see the "stock" qt classes and nothing that relates to qmf | 11:28 |
| Stskeeps | crnkoj: we only test towards stock harmattan sorry, custom bootloaders not good | 11:30 |
| crnkoj | Stskeeps, ok thanks for the warning | 11:32 |
| rc_ | well, unfortunately this seems to be a dead end then | 11:32 |
| rc_ | grep -ir qmail $TROJITA_REPO only shows some QMail*Codec related stuff | 11:33 |
| rc_ | if they were using qmf i would have expected much more "hits" | 11:33 |
| rc_ | Stskeeps, ^ | 11:34 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 11:37 |
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| Stskeeps | doesnt fit well into architecture | 11:37 |
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| rc_ | right | 11:46 |
| rc_ | will have a deeper look into qmf and see if it's feasible for me to start a simple email client from scratch.. | 11:47 |
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| Crnkoj | Stskeeps i have one more question is it possible to flash nemo mobile to a n9 running pr 1.3? thanks | 11:56 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5568 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5568 | 11:58 |
| alterego | w00t: when were you planning on doing new qmlcontacts and nemo-qml-plugins release? | 11:58 |
| w00t | alterego: sometime today | 12:00 |
| alterego | awesome | 12:00 |
| alterego | I've just submitted latest dialer. | 12:00 |
| alterego | w00t: I've done a commhistory declarative interface, which obviously relies on libcommhistory, was wondering how you'd feel about having that in nemo-qml-components? | 12:01 |
| alterego | Or should we keep it separate? | 12:01 |
| alterego | I think it sort of makes sense having it there .. | 12:02 |
| w00t | perhaps, i don't really know that much about it | 12:02 |
| alterego | libcommhistory is an interface to tracker much the same as your contacts stuff. | 12:03 |
| alterego | It creates a EventModel that you use to query for past communication events. | 12:03 |
| alterego | commhistory-daemon, uses libcommhistory to push events it receives from telepathy. | 12:04 |
| alterego | My commhistory declarative plugin just wraps libcommhistory's model in a more declarative friendly way through a QSortProxyModel. | 12:04 |
| alterego | And does the normal declarative initialization. | 12:04 |
| w00t | sounds interetiting, certainly | 12:07 |
| alterego | Basically, dialer requires it for history, and sms requires it for similar purpose. | 12:08 |
| alterego | s/sms/messaging/ .. | 12:09 |
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| iekku | eeeh | 13:19 |
| iekku | 65 triage-needed bugs | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | heh | 13:19 |
| iekku | how long my vacation was? | 13:20 |
| iekku | :P | 13:20 |
| iekku | happy to see that there has been active people :) | 13:22 |
| iekku | but i think 1h slot isn't enough to get all triaged | 13:22 |
| w00t | two meetings? | 13:23 |
| iekku | let's figure it out tomorrow | 13:25 |
| iekku | going to have very busy week next week | 13:25 |
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| Crnkoj | Stskeeps one question about nemomobile and the n9 i have left :) after im done with testing nemomobile can i just flash the stock images or do i have to first do the image recovery adn than flash stock images? thanks | 13:33 |
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| Stskeeps | hello pvuorela :) | 13:46 |
| pvuorela | hi! | 13:47 |
| pvuorela | hey, regarding nemo installation on i586 virtual machine, the wiki says it's currently "recommended" to have ssse3 unless wanting a black screen after boot. does this mean i'm out of luck testing it on amd machine? | 13:49 |
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| Venemo_N9 | hi | 14:02 |
| alterego | Aloha | 14:03 |
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| Stskeeps | pvuorela: ask me in 2h and i'll give it to you | 14:05 |
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| pvuorela | alright. | 14:06 |
| Stskeeps | i have a specially crafted image so | 14:07 |
| Venemo_N9 | specially crafted image? of what? | 14:10 |
| Stskeeps | i486 nemo | 14:10 |
| alterego | If only I could detect when headphones are plugged in :/ | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | ohm would normally | 14:12 |
| alterego | Yeah, I'm sure there's a GPIO | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | or input device | 14:13 |
| alterego | hmm | 14:14 |
| Venemo_N9 | why not x86_64? | 14:14 |
| alterego | Well, I have the ECI input device mapped. | 14:14 |
| Venemo_N9 | ok, I'll shut up | 14:14 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo_N9: feel free to make it | 14:14 |
| Venemo_N9 | :) | 14:16 |
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| Venemo_N9 | Stskeeps, can I ask you something? I think you'll know, I've been out of the loop for a while. | 14:19 |
| Venemo_N9 | Stskeeps, is the Qt mobility sensors implementation in Nemo still based on polling? | 14:20 |
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| Venemo_N9 | I'd like to know because my new home screen Qt mobility for orientation. | 14:21 |
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| Stskeeps | Venemo_N9: just use whatever qtsensors is using and dont rotate when screen is off? | 14:23 |
| Venemo_N9 | Stskeeps, sure, but I'm unsure what it's using in Mer. | 14:24 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't really matter to homescreen | 14:24 |
| Stskeeps | lower level stuff | 14:24 |
| Venemo_N9 | Stskeeps, but it does. the home screen is always running. if it uses something that polls a sensor, it's gonna drain battery. | 14:25 |
| Venemo_N9 | Stskeeps, I know it directly polled a sysfs entry in fremantle. | 14:25 |
| Venemo_N9 | not sure how it works on Nemo. | 14:26 |
| Venemo_N9 | I also tried searching for its code, but didn't find it | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | it isn't | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | it talks to sensorfw | 14:26 |
| Venemo_N9 | and what does sensorfw do? | 14:27 |
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| Stskeeps | reads an input device | 14:27 |
| Venemo_N9 | ok, but you still haven't answered the question. | 14:30 |
| Venemo_N9 | is it based on polling? | 14:30 |
| Stskeeps | yes, but it is not under your control it does it | 14:36 |
| Venemo_N9 | :( | 14:41 |
| Venemo_N9 | whose control is it under? | 14:41 |
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| Figure | polling is bad but it all depends how the sensors are connected | 14:46 |
| Figure | there just might be that you actually dont have interrupt to use | 14:46 |
| Figure | best would be to set some boundaries to actual hw and it would send irq when those bondaries are exceeded | 14:47 |
| Venemo_N9 | agreed | 14:47 |
| Venemo_N9 | there should be an interrupt for this | 14:47 |
| Figure | and I'm sorry that I didn't answer your question but to put it simple I dont know enough from nemo yet :) | 14:47 |
| Figure | I think it depends on the hw | 14:48 |
| Venemo_N9 | we need someone with adequate knowledge of the hw then | 14:48 |
| Figure | e.g. N9,N950,N900 can have different censors | 14:48 |
| Venemo_N9 | if sensorfw is open, we could even fix it | 14:49 |
| Figure | and nokia hasn't published the block diagram of the how.. which is bad for opensource :( | 14:49 |
| Figure | sensorfw seem to be open | 14:49 |
| Figure | http://gitorious.org/sensorfw/sensorfw | 14:49 |
| Figure | more uptodate one http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-middleware/sensorfw | 14:51 |
| Venemo_N9 | mhm | 14:51 |
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| mallat | does bossbot get stuck sometimes? I submitted https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5565 before going out and now several hours later it's still "Under automated review"... | 15:53 |
| w00t | mallat: can you please file a github pull request for things we maintain? (i.e. that would be one example) | 15:55 |
| * alterego wonders if sage is around to do SRs today :) | 15:56 | |
| mallat | w00t: ok | 15:56 |
| * w00t works on unbricking nemo | 15:56 | |
| alterego | lol | 15:56 |
| Stskeeps | pvuorela: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/nemo-handset-i586-vm-0.20120614.1.NEMO.2012-08-05.2-sda.raw.bz2 | 15:57 |
| Stskeeps | pvuorela: bunzip2, VN | 15:57 |
| Stskeeps | VBoxManage convertfromraw it into a vdi file | 15:58 |
| Stskeeps | and add as first virtual harddisk on the vm | 15:58 |
| pvuorela | thanks! | 15:58 |
| Stskeeps | instead of iso | 15:58 |
| Stskeeps | np, we will prolly make it a standard build | 15:58 |
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| tryedit | so, I tried nemo latest release on n900. this time I was smart and didn't try to be faster then nemo, cause this leads to "application does not react... close yes/no" or something. anyway, wireless worked in this release so I tought about updating it. only wireless died after sometime and the gui didn't allow a reconnect, only restart and then again only for some time wifi. I lol'd at this. somehow the update finished a few hours | 16:11 |
| tryedit | so much fail. | 16:11 |
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| w00t | so the udev upgrade seems to have screwed things up a bit | 16:17 |
| alterego | indoodle | 16:20 |
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| Stskeeps | w00t: show me exact error | 16:24 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: problem boils down to soname bump of libudev.so, my upgraded qt-mobility is somehow wanting .so.0, new systemd and stuff wants .so.1 | 16:25 |
| Stskeeps | ah, so it's not built against new libudev? | 16:25 |
| w00t | apparently.. | 16:25 |
| w00t | i don't know how that happened | 16:25 |
| Stskeeps | check your own repo? | 16:25 |
| pvuorela | Stskeeps: boots better now :) | 16:26 |
| Stskeeps | pvuorela: good :) | 16:26 |
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| * w00t throws connman under a bus | 16:30 | |
| Stskeeps | w00t: i think we need to work a bit on nemo SSU | 16:30 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:30 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: you might say that | 16:31 |
| Stskeeps | did your qt-mobility not build, or something? | 16:31 |
| w00t | I don't know | 16:31 |
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| w00t | connman keeps dying before I can actually look at the problem | 16:31 |
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| w00t | I think one of these days I'm going to snap and try figure out why it's such a steaming pile of shit on n950 | 16:31 |
| Stskeeps | dying? sure it's not just getting upgraded? | 16:32 |
| w00t | as in my connection starts, I can ssh, and then it dies a horrible flaming death | 16:32 |
| w00t | and restarting it doesn't work at all | 16:32 |
| w00t | (and no, nor does PSM, before you say it) | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | crash or? | 16:33 |
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| w00t | not sure, the whole thing locked up, and now I'm not getting a UI | 16:33 |
| w00t | I think it might be time to write this image off | 16:33 |
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| faenil_away | good evening people :) | 19:46 |
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| * faenil reading the backlog...mmm | 19:46 | |
| faenil | w00t, are you investigating the black screen problem you get when updating via zypper?^ | 19:56 |
| w00t | no | 19:56 |
| faenil | ok, seemed like it :) | 19:56 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5568 Accepted promotion request | 20:16 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5499 Accepted promotion request | 20:51 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5595 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5595 | 20:51 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5596 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5596 | 20:52 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5584 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5584 | 20:56 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5594 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5594 | 20:57 |
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