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| special | alterego: I already have one (small) functionality patch to libcommhistory itself. Should we make an 'upstream' for it on github/nemomobile? | 04:55 |
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| w00t | special: that's probably a good idea, I'd assume you're probably going to end up with more over time, also? | 05:42 |
| special | yes. | 05:42 |
| special | a substantial part of the messages logic is in libcommhistory | 05:42 |
| w00t | I can add the repo easily, so | 05:43 |
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| ArtoH | http://www.digia.com/en/Home/Company/Press/2012/Digia-to-acquire-Qt-from-Nokia/ related news | 06:42 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 06:42 |
| Stskeeps | good news, i think | 06:42 |
| jonwil | I dont think QT on the desktop is going to die anytime soon, too many KDE users for that to happen. | 06:46 |
| jonwil | But I hope that the news means that QT on mobile doesn't die | 06:46 |
| jonwil | i.e. QT Mobility etc | 06:46 |
| lpotter | too bad they got rid of all the Qt mobile developers | 06:46 |
| jonwil | yeah that is bad | 06:46 |
| Stskeeps | still, embedded is very much going in same direction as mobile these days, same needs | 06:47 |
| * Stskeeps hopes good companies will hire the cool people that did qt mobile | 06:47 | |
| * lpotter hopes too. | 06:48 | |
| Sviox | is https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=meegotouch-home&project=CE%3AUX%3AMTF the meegotouch-home package used in Nemo? | 06:49 |
| jonwil | I doubt we will see any new smartphone that uses QT by default anytime soon (unless its some wierd experiment) | 06:49 |
| Stskeeps | Sviox: yes | 06:49 |
| Stskeeps | jonwil: BB10 | 06:49 |
| Stskeeps | jonwil: webos is technically qt based too | 06:49 |
| jonwil | webos is dead | 06:49 |
| Stskeeps | jolla.. | 06:49 |
| Sviox | then can I set bug https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=208 as already fixed? | 06:49 |
| jonwil | and I wasn't aware that RIM were using QT | 06:50 |
| Stskeeps | Sviox: is it version 1.3.2 ? | 06:50 |
| Stskeeps | jonwil: sure, go look at cascades | 06:50 |
| Sviox | I think.. | 06:50 |
| dcthang | yep, good news. Now Qt will be better than | 06:50 |
| Sviox | it has meegotouch-meegotouch-home-1.3.2-1.tar.gz as base | 06:50 |
| Stskeeps | Sviox: yes, sounds sane to close then | 06:50 |
| Stskeeps | lpotter: btw: connman bearer management, how complete is it? | 06:51 |
| jonwil | in any case, the N900/N9/N950 are still the best QT-running smartphones ever :) | 06:52 |
| lpotter | probably doesnt have stuff past profiles I think its called | 06:52 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 06:52 |
| Stskeeps | so it probably would have to get updated to connman 1.0 api i guess | 06:52 |
| lpotter | Stskeeps: but there was some work done on it | 06:52 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 06:52 |
| lpotter | wasnt doing that work, so I didnt pay attention | 06:53 |
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| Stskeeps | lpotter: second question, happen to have any youtube videos/blog posts about cool stuff done with qsensorgestures? | 06:53 |
| jonwil | my only wish is that cellular-qt existed on the N900 :( | 06:54 |
| lpotter | Stskeeps: I need too | 06:54 |
| Stskeeps | lpotter: i know what cool stuff can be done but it'd help to show to others for sure.. | 06:54 |
| lpotter | would be good advertising for me | 06:54 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: | 06:56 |
| Elleo | "6 | 07:01 |
| Elleo | oops | 07:01 |
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| alterego | digia getting Qt, well, I hope they don't f, it up. | 07:40 |
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| Andy80 | hi all | 07:50 |
| Stskeeps | heya | 07:54 |
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| Andy80 | it looks like we have good news about the future of Qt ;) | 07:56 |
| mike7b4 | morning all | 07:56 |
| w00t | Sage: what package is mc-tool from? | 07:57 |
| w00t | (or how do I find this out?) | 07:57 |
| Sage | w00t: telepathy-mission-control | 07:57 |
| Sage | w00t: rpm -qf `which mc-tool` | 07:57 |
| w00t | thanks | 07:57 |
| w00t | but it's not installed | 07:57 |
| w00t | I wanted to know what to install :-) | 07:57 |
| kallela | hi, I have a fixed meegotouch-controlpanelapplets package published in OBS in my branch. wiki guides to announce it here before continuing. so anything else to do than marking the bug fixed and submitting the package? works nicely on a device :) | 07:58 |
| kallela | fixes https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100 | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | submit it i guess, i don't think upstream is alive | 07:59 |
| Sage | kallela: make a git format patch with description what it does and then push to Project:MTF:Ux project to appropriate package | 08:00 |
| Sage | w00t: I though zypper what-provides x woudl have worked but apparently not | 08:01 |
| w00t | mc-tool list: Failed to connect to D-Bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-noHUGKc9HO: Connection refused | 08:01 |
| w00t | hmm... | 08:01 |
| w00t | dbus died? | 08:01 |
| Sage | w00t: not root :) | 08:02 |
| w00t | why should I need to be root to talk to dbus? | 08:02 |
| Sage | I do just su nemo; export DISPLAY=:0; mc-tool what ever | 08:03 |
| w00t | I'm logged in as nemo | 08:03 |
| w00t | restarting the session appears to have fixed it | 08:03 |
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| kallela | Stskeeps, Sage: right, thanks | 08:13 |
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| Sviox | hmm, I already found a fix for #219 and tried it with the nemo image, but how do get the URL for git to clone the stuff from https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=qmlcalc&project=CE%3AApps to myself? | 09:06 |
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| Sage | Sviox: go with you favorite browser to the URL pointed in .spec and then check github instructions | 09:50 |
| Sviox | can you throw me a specific url? I'm feeling quite lost here.. | 09:52 |
| Sage | Sviox: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=qmlcalc.spec&package=qmlcalc&project=CE%3AApps&rev=c421409236f1fe6ee88d3a1fcc251edf there is URL field | 09:52 |
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| Sage | then when you open that in your browser you see the git clone url on the top part of the page | 09:53 |
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| Sviox | do I need to have account for github? or can I just fetch the package? | 09:56 |
| Sviox | also, the github url used debian packaging while nemo uses rpm - I'm not sure how to proceed.. | 09:57 |
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| Sviox | okay got the github cloned, created a local branch, commited change.. | 10:04 |
| Sviox | now what? | 10:06 |
| Sviox | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/GettingStartedInFixingBugs says to run "git format-patch" but I'm not sure if that did anything (at least no .patch file were generated) and next it says to "Branch the package" in OBS - how do I do that? | 10:07 |
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| Stskeeps | Sviox: if you do a git commit you can use git format-patch | 10:19 |
| Sviox | succeeded in doing the patch file, I was using wrong commit id... | 10:21 |
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| Sviox | But.. now osc says "Server returned an error: HTTP Error 401: basic auth failed".. How do I get the access? | 10:21 |
| Sviox | i can log into build.pub.meego.com, are these using different login information? | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | osc -A https://api.pub.meego.com ? | 10:23 |
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| Sviox | gives input instructions | 10:24 |
| Stskeeps | good, use login/pass there | 10:25 |
| Sviox | done that earlier | 10:25 |
| Sviox | (and I used wrong username in the first time so I modified it to ~/.oscrc) | 10:26 |
| Stskeeps | ok, and when documentation says osc, use osc -A https://api.pub.meego.com | 10:26 |
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| Sviox | I can manually log in to https://api.pub.meego.com/ via browser with the same credentials as in .oscrc | 10:30 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, and does osc -A https://api.pub.meego.com ls work? | 10:30 |
| Sviox | yes | 10:31 |
| Sviox | gives a huge list of projects | 10:31 |
| Stskeeps | good | 10:31 |
| Stskeeps | .. so where's the issue? :P | 10:32 |
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| Sviox | wait.. | 10:33 |
| Sviox | seems I wasn't working on a personal branch, trying again | 10:33 |
| Sviox | instructions say "osc add <patch>", what is the patch here, a relative path to the patch file? | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | put the .patch file together with .spec .changes and tarball | 10:35 |
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| Sviox | hmmm, now the add doesnt complain about auht error BUT says: "file 'home:sviox:branches:CE:home:sviox:branches:CE:Apps/qmlcalc/0001-Modified-.desktop-to-only-allow-one-instance-of-qmlc.patch' does not exist" | 10:36 |
| Stskeeps | does it exist? | 10:37 |
| Sviox | it does exist and in fact was entered using tabs so it should be written correctly | 10:37 |
| * Stskeeps ponders idly | 10:37 | |
| Stskeeps | try osc status | 10:37 |
| Sviox | Error: "/home/developer/osc_stuff" is not an osc package working copy. | 10:37 |
| Sviox | soo, I need to be inside the dir maybe :) | 10:38 |
| Sviox | okay, now we're talking.. seems to me like whoever wrote the osc CLI likes git a lot ;) | 10:39 |
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| alterego | Sviox: probably SVN to begin with ;) | 10:40 |
| Sviox | "Add the patch in .yaml file in the patches-section" hmmm, now to hunt the syntax from somewhere.. | 10:40 |
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| w00t | Patches:\n - filename-of-my-patch | 10:43 |
| w00t | fairly straightforward | 10:43 |
| Sviox | and I JUST found it myself :)) | 10:43 |
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| Sviox | this package had no patches before so I had to dig a bit futher | 10:43 |
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| Sviox | "Run specify to update .spec file" What's this step? | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | run 'specify' | 10:45 |
| Sviox | command not found :) | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | are you in mer platform sdk? | 10:45 |
| Sviox | yes | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | ok.. | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | sudo zypper in spectacle | 10:45 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: 'sudo' makes me remember.. is it a known issue that sudo is broken? | 10:46 |
| w00t | (on device) | 10:46 |
| Sviox | already installed | 10:46 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 10:46 |
| w00t | ok, i won't go file bug then | 10:46 |
| Stskeeps | Sviox: 'specify' should really really work then | 10:46 |
| Sviox | "No update candidate for 'spectacle-0.24-1.4.noarch'. The highest available version is already installed." | 10:47 |
| Sviox | MerSDK developer@MerEnv:~/osc_stuff/home:sviox:branches:CE:Apps$ speficybash: speficy: command not found | 10:47 |
| Sviox | can someone try to run "which specify" ? | 10:47 |
| Stskeeps | Sviox: speficy? | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:48 |
| Sviox | umm | 10:48 |
| Sviox | :) | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | i think you typo'ed | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | time for coffee? ;) | 10:49 |
| Sviox | i think so too now :D | 10:49 |
| w00t | haha | 10:54 |
| w00t | happens to the best of us | 10:54 |
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| Sviox | hmm, i submitted the change and not obs says there are some errors | 11:05 |
| Stskeeps | progress :) | 11:05 |
| faenil | goooood morniiing :) | 11:07 |
| Sviox | seems the specify (did I get it right this time? ^^) did something.. luckily I spared the old .spec for comparison | 11:07 |
| w00t | "osc diff" and "osc rdiff" are also useful | 11:08 |
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| Sviox | the arm builds failed to "nothing provides %{_bindir}/desktop-file-install" error.. and this was something the specify added | 11:10 |
| Sviox | changed "BuildRequires: desktop-file-utils" to "BuildRequires: %{_bindir}/desktop-file-install" apparently | 11:11 |
| Sviox | any idea why? | 11:11 |
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| Sviox | and can I just manually change it back and check in the changes again? | 11:12 |
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| Stskeeps | yes | 11:14 |
| Stskeeps | it's a but in specify | 11:14 |
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| Sviox | should I have used the old version in changes file? | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, is fine | 11:38 |
| Stskeeps | its when upstream changes | 11:38 |
| Sviox | okay.. because I did change the version.. | 11:39 |
| Sviox | and I don't know what I did wrong this time, but obs now reports errors for all platforms :( | 11:40 |
| Sviox | oh.. except that.. after F5 it shows success | 11:40 |
| Sviox | anyhow, should I change the version back? | 11:40 |
| Stskeeps | check the build log perhaps? | 11:41 |
| sledges | hello | 11:43 |
| Stskeeps | moo sledges | 11:44 |
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| sivang | re all | 11:48 |
| sledges | I just recompiled on build.pub.meego.com the meegotouch-systemui using CE_UX_MTF_i586 (as it was also specified in the nemo-vm-i586 .ks file), but on Nemo virtualBox the `zypper install meegotouch-systemui-1.3.2-38.1.Project.MTF.UX.i586.rpm` (resulting .rpm file) says dependencies cannot be satisfied: http://pastie.org/4433243 | 11:48 |
| sledges | moin Stskeeps :) | 11:49 |
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| sledges | Ok, me must have initially gone to the wrong OBS project (Project:UX:MTF) instead of CE:UX:MTF ;) | 11:56 |
| sledges | ok, another getting lost in MW/UX, I think I should stick this next to my bed: http://sage.kapsi.fi/Mer/misc/Nemomobile-OBS-project-structure-draft.png :) | 12:08 |
| Stskeeps | that and an altar to sacrifice furry animals on.. | 12:08 |
| sledges | x) | 12:13 |
| Sviox | I'm about to release bug fix for Nemo#219 (instructions said I should announce this :) | 12:36 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 12:39 |
| sivang | so, I think I can see the blanking issue still with the latest image on virt-manager using qemu (not kvm) | 12:40 |
| sivang | can see mouse cursor but that's it, black background | 12:40 |
| sivang | darn, I need to run :/ | 12:40 |
| * sledges has just done zypper ref and zypper up, nemo has gone black during update process and after Ctrl+Alt+Del still stays black :{ onto working my way to work blind/ssh!..) | 12:41 | |
| sledges | (on VirtualBox) | 12:41 |
| * sivang -> bbl | 12:41 | |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5436 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5436 | 12:43 |
| Sviox | \o/ | 12:45 |
| Sviox | that's my fix :) | 12:45 |
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| Stskeeps | cool | 12:47 |
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| Sviox | Anyone want to translate to me what "can you please also file a pull request on github, seeing as it's a package we're the upstream for?" means in concrete steps? :) | 13:03 |
| Stskeeps | as in fork on github, send your change there and submit a pull request | 13:03 |
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| Sviox | what's a pull request? | 13:06 |
| Stskeeps | https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests/ | 13:07 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5440 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5440 | 13:43 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5438 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5438 | 13:43 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5441 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5441 | 13:43 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5439 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5439 | 13:44 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5442 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5442 | 13:44 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5437 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5437 | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | who's going crazy.. :P | 13:44 |
| phaeron | woah | 13:44 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5443 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5443 | 13:44 |
| * Sage is | 13:45 | |
| Stskeeps | ah, good point | 13:45 |
| Sage | pushing patterns finally like they should | 13:45 |
| sledges | is performing zypper refresh and zypper update a good idea? For me it fails with fresh install | 13:45 |
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| Hurrian | sledges, ATM it breaks a fresh install of nemo | 13:45 |
| Sage | Hurrian: how it breaks fresh install? | 13:46 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5444 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5444 | 13:46 |
| Hurrian | Sage, zypper somehow depends on udev, and isn't upgraded with it | 13:46 |
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| Sage | Hurrian: udev package is removed from new version so it is probably normal thing what you see | 13:46 |
| Hurrian | when udev is removed, new zypper wasn't installed yet, and breaks it | 13:46 |
| Sage | Hurrian: can you shoe me the log | 13:46 |
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| sledges | Sage: http://pastie.org/4433747 | 13:47 |
| Hurrian | Sage, I get thrown out of UX and into a shell | 13:47 |
| Hurrian | logged in with root:nemo, tried to continue the upgrade but zypper wouldn't budge | 13:47 |
| Sage | sledges: yes ssh stalls. know issue, see https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Updating | 13:47 |
| Hurrian | ...at least it didn't break while upgrading glibc. | 13:48 |
| Hurrian | Sage, btw, yes, I did the upgrade inside a screen session | 13:48 |
| sledges | Sage, but I did that previously from within a meego-terminal - whole nemo just crashed into black small screen, (probably just like Hurrian's ) and afterwards I mounted .vdi ran zypper it complained about missing libudev.so.0 so I did cd /lib; ln -s libudev.so.1 libudev.so.0 and it seemed to work, but did not do further tests afterwards yet | 13:49 |
| sledges | the installation would still stall at (big) black screen, i.e. Xorg loaded | 13:49 |
| Sage | nemo crashing is also "known issue" Just give it like 15mins to complete and reboot ;) | 13:49 |
| sledges | 8) ok, will keep playing | 13:50 |
| Sage | we need to improve the update process, but on package level it should be fine. | 13:50 |
| Hurrian | whelp. I'll reload a new fresh image, and try again. | 13:50 |
| Sage | SSH breaks as connman cuts connections on update and display breaks as some package causes X to restart and it doesn't reload properly. | 13:50 |
| Hurrian | Sage, not sure how that'd be, RPM is supposedly the best for dependency management | 13:51 |
| sledges | ok, Sage, so ideally I need to do it blindly from Host+Alt+F2 | 13:51 |
| Sage | Hurrian: well, we have probalby bad thing in some %post or %postun script and update doesn't go well. eg. something doesn't restart properly | 13:51 |
| Hurrian | mmhm. | 13:52 |
| Sage | Hurrian: as said package level it goes well. so it is just the scripts that are bad | 13:52 |
| Hurrian | ah. | 13:53 |
| Hurrian | By the way, are there any plans to pull in freemangordon's Thumb patch and make Nemo armv7thl again? | 13:53 |
| * dm8tbr would not recommend that | 13:55 | |
| Stskeeps | Hurrian: compared to maemo, we are much more likely to hurt on fps | 13:55 |
| Hurrian | I don't remember anything other than instability being the cause of it being pulled out. Anyone care to inform me about it? | 13:56 |
| dm8tbr | OMAP3 in the 34/35xx variety has broken thumbs | 13:56 |
| dm8tbr | I know freeman did a lot of work on it | 13:56 |
| dm8tbr | but I did not see conclusive proof that he /really/ managed to fix the problem | 13:57 |
| Hurrian | it's quite difficult to set up test case for it | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | Hurrian: the problem is the errata clears the branching cache | 13:57 |
| dm8tbr | it's nearly impossible | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | it's not impossible, just happens when you don't look | 13:58 |
| dm8tbr | yes | 13:58 |
| Stskeeps | Hurrian: which means branch prediction cache, which is really really bad for performance | 13:58 |
| dm8tbr | and would likely eat any possible performance gain from thumb | 13:58 |
| Hurrian | Stskeeps, time to compare benches then, I guess. | 13:59 |
| Stskeeps | Hurrian: the interesting part is that it's when system is semi-idle shit starts crashing :) | 13:59 |
| Stskeeps | regarding this bug | 13:59 |
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| Sage | another flood coming soon sry :) | 14:01 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5443 Accepted promotion request | 14:01 |
| Hurrian | alright, just copied a fresh Nemo image, time to try upgrading | 14:02 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5441 Accepted promotion request | 14:02 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5444 Rejected promotion request | 14:02 |
| sledges | Hurrian, best if you do it via the invisible terminal Host+Alt+F2 ;) | 14:02 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5440 Accepted promotion request | 14:02 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5439 Accepted promotion request | 14:03 |
| Sage | Sviox: your qmlcalc submit. You should have Requires: meegotouch-applauncherd in there otherwise it doesn't work if invoker doesn't exist. | 14:03 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5442 Accepted promotion request | 14:03 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5437 Accepted promotion request | 14:04 |
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| Sage | phaeron: ping. Some of nemo projects do not handle patterns properly | 14:18 |
| Sage | phaeron: CE:Apps, CE:Apps:MTF and CE:Adaptation:N900 | 14:22 |
| Sage | ah, empty obs requests? | 14:23 |
| Sage | err... responses | 14:23 |
| * Sage :headdesk: | 14:25 | |
| phaeron | Sage: hmm ? | 14:29 |
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| Sage | phaeron: forgot to add something to each pattern package | 14:34 |
| Sage | but those 3 projects failed | 14:34 |
| Sage | different thing | 14:34 |
| sledges | Sage, just ran zypper up from virtual terminal Host+Alt+F2 (blackscreen bug so working blindly), now no disc activity anymore after first 5min, should I wait another 15min ? | 14:35 |
| faenil | PR updated, 4 bugs fixed for qmlgallery :) | 14:36 |
| faenil | special, ^ | 14:36 |
| faenil | feel free to review&merge when you have some time...and please keep me posted :) thanks ^^ | 14:37 |
| faenil | w00t, ^ | 14:38 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5438 Accepted promotion request | 14:38 |
| w00t | faenil: cool, thanks | 14:38 |
| Sage | sledges: there is workaround for the blackscreen bug btw. https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=501#c2 | 14:39 |
| faenil | w00t, np :) I changed the commit msgs and added the commit for coding style fixes, feel free to add more advices ;) | 14:39 |
| sledges | this fixes only UX temrinal black screen, BTW mesa-llvmpipe-dri-swrast-driver is not found anymore in repos | 14:39 |
| sledges | also not applicable to my case to run zypper up, because as you said yourself: display breaks as some package causes X to restart | 14:40 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5447 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5447 | 14:46 |
| faenil | can I close the bug I fixed on the bugtracker myself? just to speed things up | 14:46 |
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| sledges | Sage, apparently zypper up finished! halt -p shut down the whole vm. BUT after restart I am getting constant bootloader loop - kernel is not in :{ | 14:50 |
| Sage | ah, that problem | 14:51 |
| Sage | ah, didn't realize that you were updating x86 | 14:51 |
| * Sage is feeling slow today | 14:51 | |
| sledges | lack of information ($ARCH) from my side too :) | 14:52 |
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| faenil | who can I ask to about the bugtracker thing? | 14:53 |
| faenil | without the "to" ;P | 14:53 |
| Stskeeps | just RESOLVED/FIXED when you've fixed an issue | 14:53 |
| Stskeeps | and SR# number | 14:53 |
| Sviox | Sage: good catch | 14:54 |
| Sviox | I'll see what I can do about that tomorrow | 14:55 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, you mean I can change the "status" or just write RESOLVED and SR number in the comments? | 14:56 |
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| sledges | Sage, I [Tab] edited extlinux bootloader's string to match the existing kernel (from 3.0.0-2.1-... tp 3.0.0-2.2-...) but it still loops in :( | 14:58 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5448 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5448 | 14:58 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5450 Rejected promotion request | 15:00 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5451 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5451 | 15:01 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5452 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5452 | 15:01 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5453 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5453 | 15:02 |
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| sledges | how can I run Nemo in a VM and it not being i586 ?... tried everything on this bootloader break, even copied kernel which worked before an update - no luck | 15:10 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: [14:56] <Stskeeps> http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/nemo-handset-i586-vm-0.20120614.1.NEMO.2012-08-05.2-sda.raw.bz2 | 15:11 |
| Stskeeps | [14:56] <curiosity> thanks! | 15:11 |
| Stskeeps | it says i586 but it's i486 | 15:11 |
| Stskeeps | [14:56] <Stskeeps> bunzip2, install virtualbox, VBoxManage convertfromraw file.raw file.vdi --format vdi | 15:11 |
| Stskeeps | [14:56] <Stskeeps> and add as first virtual harddisk in a virtual machine according to nemo instructiosn | 15:11 |
| Stskeeps | [15:02] <dm8tbr> but it says 586? isn't that SSSE3? I thought the naming convention was 486 for non-ssse3 | 15:12 |
| sledges | shoot, IRC logs seem to be the best reference (checked bugzilla and mailing list :)) thank you Stskeeps | 15:12 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5456 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5456 | 15:13 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5457 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5457 | 15:25 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5458 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5458 | 15:26 |
| faenil | where are the sources of hw adapt? | 15:31 |
| faenil | should I look for them on the obs? | 15:32 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5436 Rejected promotion request | 15:32 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5457 Accepted promotion request | 15:32 |
| faenil | like here https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=kernel-adaptation-n950&project=CE%3AAdaptation%3AN950-N9 | 15:32 |
| faenil | or is there another place? | 15:32 |
| Sage | faenil: CE:Adaptations: projects in cobs yes | 15:33 |
| faenil | ok thanks | 15:33 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5456 Accepted promotion request | 15:33 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5451 Accepted promotion request | 15:33 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5453 Accepted promotion request | 15:34 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5458 Accepted promotion request | 15:34 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5448 Accepted promotion request | 15:35 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5452 Accepted promotion request | 15:35 |
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| mrudulpen | is it possible to find information about this submit request https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/3949 | 15:39 |
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| alterego | What kind of request? :P | 15:45 |
| alterego | mrudulpen: Erm, what kind of information even. | 15:45 |
| mrudulpen | alterego: wanted to see what was the code that was submitted. | 15:46 |
| mrudulpen | alterego: in that request :) | 15:46 |
| alterego | mrudulpen: best to look at the packages revision. | 15:47 |
| mrudulpen | alterego: ah ok. thanks. well it was all there few clicks away :) | 15:48 |
| alterego | special: I've forked libcommhistory and commhistory-daemon | 15:52 |
| alterego | I'll be sticking my changes up soon and hope to have some packages this weekend as well for us to get stuff moving along :) | 15:52 |
| special | alterego: forked where? | 15:54 |
| alterego | https://github.com/tswindell/libcommhistory | 15:54 |
| alterego | Will get w00t to move it in to the nemomobile area when he can. | 15:55 |
| special | okay. I've got one patch to it already | 15:56 |
| alterego | Cool, well, push away :) | 15:57 |
| w00t | alterego: special: created | 16:00 |
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| alterego | w00t: have you given me admin rights on it? | 16:01 |
| alterego | w00t: also potentially need commhistory-daemon repo. | 16:02 |
| special | yes, daemon too | 16:03 |
| w00t | alterego: done | 16:06 |
| alterego | Thanks | 16:06 |
| alterego | special: use those now ;) | 16:10 |
| special | great | 16:10 |
| alterego | w00t: also, I'm thinking the commhistory-declarative-plugin I'm doing should be in nemo-qml-plugins? | 16:13 |
| alterego | special: can you tell me what you've done already? o I don't redo it. :P | 16:15 |
| alterego | ~S | 16:15 |
| special | alterego: nothing big, I just found a crash when I was playing with it last night | 16:15 |
| special | alterego: https://github.com/special/libcommhistory/commit/17efab59f523e786b5748268be458e4f9a997726 | 16:15 |
| special | on that note: If the QML wrapping is done as a plugin, those models will have to be created from and used from QML, correct? Or is there a way to manage them from C++ as well? | 16:17 |
| alterego | special: either will work, you link to the library if you want to create them in C++, but you'll have to qmlRegisterUncreatableType to do so. | 16:18 |
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| alterego | Otherwise using plugin will allow the instantiation in QML to happen. | 16:18 |
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| special | mm, okay | 16:19 |
| special | that will work | 16:19 |
| special | brb. | 16:20 |
| alterego | Basically, you should be making your application C++ code as dumb as possible, literally just handle opening and closing the window. All the model orientated logic should be stored in a plugin, and most of the controller logic should be in your QML. | 16:20 |
| special | my story is a little different | 16:22 |
| special | I have to tie telepathy in as well | 16:23 |
| alterego | Ah, because of telepathy? | 16:23 |
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| alterego | Yeah, declarative telepathy would be a PITA .. | 16:23 |
| special | but much of the telepathy logic might end up in plugins somewhere too | 16:24 |
| alterego | I hope so :P | 16:24 |
| faenil | guys | 16:47 |
| faenil | after updating with zypper, I have the black screen again | 16:47 |
| faenil | ssh session that was active doesn't respond anymore | 16:48 |
| faenil | anything I can do before forcing it to shut off and reboot? | 16:48 |
| faenil | usb connection got disconnected | 16:49 |
| faenil | and I see the screen is on but it's black | 16:49 |
| faenil | ok...no answer, I guess I'll just shut it off and reboot | 16:54 |
| alterego | faenil: did you do the update over SSH? | 16:55 |
| faenil | alterego, nope, on device with screen | 16:55 |
| alterego | When connman gets installed it buggers the usb connection. | 16:55 |
| faenil | it was connected over SSH, but I started the update from the phone, and now it's black | 16:55 |
| alterego | Anyway, I gave up updating the latest release, I just built and installed the image myself. | 16:55 |
| Stskeeps | are people starting to appreciate how well SSU works for you on other phones? | 16:55 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:55 |
| alterego | lol | 16:55 |
| faenil | lol | 16:56 |
| alterego | Stskeeps: I just think we need to have a couple of testers before it goes live ;) | 16:56 |
| alterego | Maybe 5 people should test updating at the least. | 16:56 |
| faenil | I disconnected and reconnected the usb cable and the usb connection is ok now, but the screen is still black | 16:56 |
| faenil | though it doesn't let me connect to 192.168.2.15 | 16:57 |
| alterego | Hrm, might be trying to reboot and got stuck. After updating mine didn't reboot or power off cleanly. | 16:57 |
| special | I did a forced reboot, but it was fine after that | 16:58 |
| alterego | special: by forced, do you mean you did a hard power off? | 16:58 |
| faenil | special, I did a forced reboot last time...but this is not a good updating system xD | 16:58 |
| alterego | faenil: WIP :) | 16:58 |
| faenil | alterego, yes, I had to do that too last time I zypper-updated | 16:58 |
| faenil | I think Sage wanted me to test something with the black screen, but it was too late | 16:58 |
| alterego | Anyway, I like my images customised, I like to install lots of crazy things from my own repos. | 16:58 |
| faenil | :) | 16:59 |
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| faenil | I still have to dive into OBS | 16:59 |
| alterego | It's a lot of fun. | 16:59 |
| alterego | And mic for image creation is cool, when you have your own custom image ideas. | 16:59 |
| special | I've been playing with it over the past day or two | 16:59 |
| special | obs is interesting, but there is definitely a learning curve. | 16:59 |
| faenil | Sage, if you want me to do something, do it now :D | 17:00 |
| faenil | mmm he's probably busy, I'll try checking the chatlog to see what he wanted me to do last time this happened | 17:05 |
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| Sage | faenil: umm... video support for gallery. GO! | 17:15 |
| * Sage smiles | 17:16 | |
| special | haha | 17:16 |
| mrudulpen | does anyone know if there is seperate application like sms app that captures notification about calls or is it the notifications in systemui that takes care of it? | 17:16 |
| faenil | Sage, ahahah you didn't even read :D | 17:17 |
| faenil | okay I'll just make a forced reboot | 17:17 |
| faenil | Sage, anyway, black screen problem after running zypper up | 17:18 |
| Stskeeps | mrudulpen: dialer sits in background at least | 17:18 |
| special | commhistory-daemon has something to do with notifications as well | 17:19 |
| Sage | faenil: sry. Had to do that as you asked if there is something I want you to do ;) | 17:20 |
| mrudulpen | Stskeeps: hmm, i thgt by the name "dialer" it is supposed to do dialing and call history atleast meego usecases says that way http://wiki.meego.com/Project/Dialer | 17:21 |
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| mrudulpen | special: let me look at commhistory-daemon as well, how is it different from headless dialer? | 17:21 |
| special | I'm not sure where it fits in for voice calls exactly | 17:22 |
| special | other than that it does log calls, and that it does notification for SMS. | 17:22 |
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| faenil | Sage, :D | 17:23 |
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| faenil | Sage, so videos in galley is your favourite bug? :D | 17:24 |
| alterego | mrudulpen, special: commhistory is about tracking, storing and marking "read" communication history. Dialer tracks new calls and will popup on a new call. systemui displays notifications on missed calls. | 17:28 |
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| mrudulpen | altergo: hmm thats interesting. | 17:41 |
| mrudulpen | altergo: and also gives me good overview of the structure | 17:41 |
| Sage | faenil: well, it is the "last" big features that is in MTF apps that we don't have in qml ;) | 17:42 |
| mrudulpen | alterego: so dialler equivalent in nemo is voicecall is that correct? | 17:46 |
| alterego | Yes | 17:47 |
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| mike7b4athome | Is there any way whe can get touchvibration working on nemo on N9xx devices? | 18:04 |
| Stskeeps | technically all thw hw is there | 18:06 |
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| Stskeeps | and support | 18:06 |
| mike7b4athome | How about kernel drivers are they in place? | 18:08 |
| faenil | Sage, oh didn't know about that :) (sorry for the late answer) | 18:08 |
| faenil | have to create a new model using c++ for that | 18:12 |
| faenil | qml doesn't offer anything like that (a model with both pictures and videos) | 18:12 |
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| Stskeeps | mike7b4athome: think so | 18:20 |
| mike7b4athome | Stskeeps, ok | 18:22 |
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| macmaN | awesome, virtualbox image boots up with no problems | 20:10 |
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| macmaN | kinda struggling with keyboard control | 20:14 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, the compositor issue is really irritating | 20:15 |
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| special | faenil: merged the gallery changes | 20:38 |
| faenil | special, I just read the email, I could do it right now | 20:38 |
| faenil | special, ok | 20:38 |
| special | whenever you like | 20:38 |
| faenil | anyway, for the style fixes, there should be a guide... | 20:39 |
| special | yes, there should | 20:39 |
| faenil | it is really needed, I've seen there are lots of comments on many PRs which are about coding style...a wiki page would avoid all that | 20:39 |
| faenil | reviewers shouldn't be writing a lot of comments about style, the devs should just read the page and make sure their code is ok before sending the PR | 20:41 |
| sivang | macmaN: no blanking anymore? | 20:42 |
| faenil | special, for example, I like using more than one blank line for the sake of readability...if that isn't ok, I just need to know it :) | 20:42 |
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| macmaN | sivang: not sure, depends on what exactly blanking means | 20:44 |
| macmaN | this is my first nemo boot | 20:44 |
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| sivang | macmaN: ah sorry, in previous images the 'display' (whatever that means in vm) would go blank after some interactions and would not go back | 20:45 |
| sivang | macmaN: I heard that was solved, so I guess you're validating this. | 20:45 |
| faenil | special, anyway thanks for reviewing and merging :) is there anything I can do to help speed things up? | 20:46 |
| faenil | I mean to make it so that the changes I committed reach "public" :) | 20:46 |
| special | faenil: a PR for one change is a lot easier to review than a PR for five changes | 20:46 |
| faenil | special, sure :) I meant for the packaging side | 20:47 |
| special | ah | 20:47 |
| faenil | what's left to do before those fix reach zypper repo? | 20:47 |
| faenil | fixes* | 20:47 |
| special | making a release, getting it on OBS, and submitting a SR there | 20:48 |
| macmaN | hmm "installer-shell" tells me no hard disk at "leat" 3000MB to install MeeGo | 20:48 |
| macmaN | i thought this was Nemo | 20:48 |
| special | generally w00t's domain | 20:49 |
| faenil | special, ok, need more details about the OBS side, but don't want to bother now with that thing ;) | 20:49 |
| faenil | yeah guessed that :) | 20:49 |
| special | I'm still learning myself :p | 20:49 |
| faenil | I remember :) | 20:49 |
| faenil | special, what's your advice for the pic+videos model? I was thinking about a QAbstractListModel based model | 20:50 |
| special | getting data from where? I would stick to DocumentGalleryModel if at all possible. | 20:50 |
| faenil | special, but you can only set one DocumentType... | 20:51 |
| faenil | so either pictures or videos | 20:51 |
| faenil | can't use both | 20:51 |
| special | that type can be 'File', which I assume would encompass both Image and Video (and many other things). Maybe you'd be able to filter it down from there. | 20:52 |
| macmaN | hmm, i launched terminal | 20:52 |
| macmaN | now screen is black | 20:52 |
| faenil | yeah that's another option, but that way you lose all automatic filetype handling | 20:52 |
| special | maybe not. | 20:52 |
| special | the gallery filters operate on "meta-data properties" - I would assume that each file has some property that would tell you if it's an image or video. | 20:53 |
| faenil | special, aha, that could be doable, if there are no conflicts | 20:54 |
| faenil | and much easier to implement | 20:54 |
| faenil | though that would require having an always active filter...which is not a nice idea...I think we need a QProxyModel | 20:55 |
| faenil | or something like that | 20:55 |
| special | why is a filter not a nice idea? | 20:56 |
| faenil | special, I'm reading doc, there's an intersection filter, ok then it's doable ;) | 20:56 |
| faenil | special, I thought you could only have one active filter at a time...in that case, having the "filetype filter" always active would not let you use other types of filter | 20:57 |
| special | ah | 20:57 |
| special | yeah, it has intersection and union | 20:57 |
| faenil | yes :) | 20:58 |
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| special | I'll just leave quietly before you start thinking about thumbnailing video :) | 20:59 |
| * sivang finally creates an arm7hl image for N950 | 21:00 | |
| faenil | special, ahahah :D I wasn't thinking about that... | 21:00 |
| faenil | holy crap :( | 21:01 |
| faenil | xD | 21:01 |
| special | I would avoid worrying about it for as long as possible, and we'll figure out a library or something to handle it later. | 21:01 |
| faenil | I see, so the whole video thing won't be possible up to that moment | 21:02 |
| special | there's no reason you can't implement the rest of it | 21:02 |
| faenil | well ofc, but the model thing is an easy one :) | 21:03 |
| faenil | ok, we can display big numbers instead of the video thumbnails, lol | 21:03 |
| faenil | mm wait, Sage said the video feature was already available in the mtf gallery... | 21:06 |
| faenil | look what I found "Qt Multimedia 5.0 has QAudioProbe and QVideoProbe for this" | 21:06 |
| special | we're not using qt5 | 21:07 |
| faenil | yeah I know, but we probably will | 21:07 |
| special | not any time soon | 21:08 |
| faenil | http://www.maemonokian900.com/maemo-news/using-tumbler-in-client-applications/ | 21:08 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5469 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5469 | 21:14 |
| phaeron | the-boss: leave me alone | 21:14 |
| the-boss | phaeron: Error: "leave" is not a valid command. | 21:14 |
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| faenil | does nemo include ffmpeg? | 21:56 |
| special | zypper search seems to say no | 21:57 |
| faenil | mm ok | 21:58 |
| special | it's in a lot of home repos on obs though | 21:59 |
| faenil | ffmpeg creates thumbnails | 21:59 |
| special | ffmpeg could be used by things that would create thumbnails | 21:59 |
| special | as someone who works with it professionally, trust me, it doesn't come anywhere near by itself :) | 21:59 |
| faenil | special, ok :D I read of commands like ffmpeg -i /tmp/video.avi -r 1 -ss 60 -r 1 foo-%03d.jpeg` | 22:00 |
| faenil | which should create thumbnails | 22:00 |
| special | the commandline tool can do it relatively easy for most things, doing it in code is a lot more complicated. | 22:01 |
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| faenil | special, commandline could be a temp approach :) | 22:02 |
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| Sage | faenil: not having thumbnails, but static image would be temp solution ;) | 22:03 |
| special | a video placeholder would be fine for now, yeah. | 22:03 |
| faenil | Sage, well yeah | 22:03 |
| special | don't get hung up on thumbnailing, concentrate on the model and on playback | 22:04 |
| faenil | special, have you ever used QML Video? I haven't heard good things about it | 22:04 |
| special | briefly and never in any serious context, but it might be suitable for this case at least | 22:04 |
| faenil | sure it might, I just hope it will work as one would expect :D | 22:05 |
| special | if it doesn't, you probably need to get gstreamer plugins installed | 22:05 |
| faenil | will work on it tomorrow ;) heading to bed now...good night Sage and special :) | 22:05 |
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| faenil | also found http://code.google.com/p/ffmpegthumbnailer/ | 22:13 |
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| faenil | that one could be a nice thing, but we need ffmpeg for that | 22:21 |
| faenil | anyway, good night :) | 22:22 |
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| Hurrian | It seems that the bizarre problem someone was experiencing here with zypper (something regarding mount points) has something to do with certain cards running on EXT4... while not in writeback data mode. Bizarre. | 23:55 |
| Hurrian | I'll have to do some more testing before filing a bug report, but it seems that without data=writeback, zypper and rpm continually break the DB and cause bizarre stuff to happen such as make / read-only. | 23:57 |
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