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| LaoLang_cool | Hi, is there a website to search a package's information to check if nemo has it or not? | 00:23 |
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| dm8tbr | LaoLang_cool: you can get that information from COBS aka build.pub.meego.com | 05:11 |
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| LaoLang_cool | dm8tbr, oh, I don't realize that nemo is a real meego, thank you :) | 06:09 |
| LaoLang_cool | s/don't/didn't/ | 06:09 |
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| dm8tbr | LaoLang_cool: it is using meego community infrastructure | 06:19 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5430 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5430 | 06:25 |
| LaoLang_cool | dm8tbr, nemo has most of packages found on that page? | 06:25 |
| dm8tbr | LaoLang_cool: nemo has those packages that are in the nemo groups listed on that page | 06:27 |
| LaoLang_cool | dm8tbr, I can't find any string matching with 'nemo' on https://build.pub.meego.com/ | 06:29 |
| dm8tbr | https://build.pub.meego.com/search/search?search_text=nemo&commit=Search&project=1&package=1&name=1&attribute=&advanced=on&issue_tracker=bnc+%28Novell+Bugzilla%29&issue_name= | 06:31 |
| dm8tbr | really? | 06:31 |
| dm8tbr | although I'd recommend to start looking from this side:https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Main_Page | 06:32 |
| LaoLang_cool | dm8tbr, oh, I mean that page, not search 'nemo' the page provides :) anyway, the result is not so much.. | 06:32 |
| LaoLang_cool | dm8tbr, will read it, thank you | 06:32 |
| LaoLang_cool | I'm new to nemo at all :) | 06:32 |
| dm8tbr | .oO(not that the URL wouldn't have been in the topic...) | 06:33 |
| LaoLang_cool | Can't find a good place for detailed introduction to nemo | 06:33 |
| dm8tbr | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Main_Page | 06:33 |
| * Stskeeps offers dm8tbr coffee | 06:35 | |
| dm8tbr | thanks, I'm undercaffeinated | 06:36 |
| dm8tbr | *slurp* | 06:36 |
| LaoLang_cool | Is nemo based on linux? | 06:36 |
| dm8tbr | some people claim it's based on pink unicorns, rainbows and the nyan cat. | 06:37 |
| dm8tbr | I'm not sure I should believe them though. | 06:38 |
| Stskeeps | it's linux based, yes | 06:38 |
| LaoLang_cool | good | 06:39 |
| w00t | dm8tbr: that gives me a great idea for our next wallpaper | 06:41 |
| Stskeeps | nyan cat is CC SA? | 06:42 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 06:42 |
| dm8tbr | w00t: ZOMG OH NOEZ TEH HUMONITIEZ! | 06:44 |
| LaoLang_cool | which language do you say?? | 06:46 |
| Stskeeps | LaoLang_cool: they're just kidding around :) | 06:46 |
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| LaoLang_cool | Stskeeps, oh | 06:48 |
| Stskeeps | good morning dcthang, msalmela | 06:48 |
| dcthang | morning Stskeeps :) | 06:48 |
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| msalmela | Morning | 06:49 |
| msalmela | Sage: OK, I just needed to try compiling with qtcreator since there was .pro file. Also wikipages advised that it might be good for N900. Where you compile the controlpanel? In MerSDK? | 06:53 |
| Stskeeps | msalmela: we compile it on a lower level, with 'osc build', or on the OBS | 06:53 |
| Stskeeps | usually | 06:53 |
| msalmela | And osc is used outside MerSDK? | 07:01 |
| Stskeeps | inside | 07:01 |
| msalmela | Allright, I'll study that. Thanks. | 07:01 |
| Sage | msalmela: .pro file just says qmake not qtcreator ;) | 07:10 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5428 Rejected promotion request | 07:14 |
| dcthang | Do we have any web runtime to support html5 there? | 07:14 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: there's a cordova runtime floating about | 07:15 |
| dcthang | ok, I'll check it out | 07:16 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5429 Accepted promotion request | 08:07 |
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| Pauli_ | I am newbie with Nemo and I would try Nemo in Linux host that does not have CPU with SSSE3. Is it possible somehow ? | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | Pauli_: could you see how far you get with the current VM? does it boot? | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | we're working on a non-SSSE3 VM too | 08:33 |
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| Pauli_ | After selecting boot origin I don't see anything. Installation gives kernel panic. | 08:35 |
| Stskeeps | okay, that's a good start | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | how do you feel about being guinea pig for our first non-SSSE3 VM sometime tomorrow? | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | we have a new mer release imported and everything is rebuilding, so | 08:37 |
| Pauli_ | Sure, why not. | 08:38 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 08:38 |
| jussi | Morning all | 08:38 |
| Stskeeps | you're not the first person to talk about this problem :) what's the specs of your PC, out of curiousity? | 08:38 |
| Stskeeps | morn jussi | 08:38 |
| jussi | Hi there Stskeeps | 08:39 |
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| Pauli_ | I have AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 805 Processor CPU. | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 08:42 |
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| msalmela | Saga: Back to basics. So if compiling osc locally, the git clone doesn't work. It has to be taken with 'osc co'. Am i on a right track? What is the syntax for doing osc co for this settingsapplet? | 08:54 |
| msalmela | Does it work with gitorious? | 08:54 |
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| msalmela | Sage: Misspelled your nic. Look above | 08:57 |
| msalmela | Or if I try with OBS way. I found 15 match for meegotouch-controlpanelapplets, which one is correct? Or does it matter? | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/OBS | 09:00 |
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| Ionakka | would someone happen to know whether there is some ui design guidelines around and whether somebody would be doing ui design? | 09:15 |
| Pauli_ | Stskeeps: Update on my PC spec. Host is Vista. I have also tried image with LLVMpipe but no luck with it. | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | Ionakka: i think there's not any direct guidelines around, http://developer.meego.com/guides/meego-handset-ui-design-guidelines is old ones | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | but doesn't include our 'gesture to switch' | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | Pauli_: should be fine | 09:18 |
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| LaoLang_cool | oh,, I took 1h 10min to bunzip2 the nemo img... | 09:27 |
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| msalmela | Quick check. I branched package meegotouch-controlpanelapplets on Project:MTF:UX and then osc -A https://build.pub.meego.com co Project:MTF:UX/meegotouch-controlpanelapplets | 09:57 |
| msalmela | But I get HTTP Error 404: Not Found | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | api.pub.meego.com | 09:58 |
| msalmela | All-right, that's looking better | 09:59 |
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| * Sage ponders if anyone is interested of maintaining peregrine for nemo anymore. | 10:32 | |
| Sage | the contacts app by special will replace that soon though I guess in functionality so not really needed at least. | 10:33 |
| w00t | is the upstream still alive, even? | 10:34 |
| w00t | twio commits in 2012 | 10:35 |
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| w00t | doesn't look promising | 10:35 |
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| alterego | I doubt it | 10:38 |
| alterego | Peregrine was a project by basysKom funded from Nokia to test telepathy functions. | 10:38 |
| alterego | When MeeGo died so did that project tbf, and when MeeGo/Harmattan died it died again. | 10:38 |
| alterego | Then Meltemi | 10:39 |
| lbt | 1000 cuts :) | 10:39 |
| Sage | I would personally vote about dropping peregrine if nobody is maintaining it. | 10:40 |
| Sage | it doesn't compile with the latest telepathy packages so would need some maintaining anyway | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:43 |
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| alterego | Maybe they'll want it back in when the platform takes off a bit more. | 10:46 |
| sp3000 | jbos was poking at it once upon a time I think, he's around in #mer and such | 10:47 |
| Stskeeps | either way, if it regresses and no obvious maintainer is around, drop temporarily | 10:47 |
| Stskeeps | and note it in release notes | 10:48 |
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| LaoLang_cool | hi, I have nemo installed | 11:18 |
| LaoLang_cool | But I don't even know how to use it at all, how to close calculator... | 11:19 |
| LaoLang_cool | ctrl-backspace doesn't work as n900 | 11:19 |
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| tadzik | try sliding from bottom to top | 11:20 |
| tadzik | or something of this sort | 11:20 |
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| alterego | Hmm, latest image on my N950 is a bit glitchy | 11:22 |
| LaoLang_cool | The response is a bit slow, n900... | 11:27 |
| Stskeeps | it's always slow at first, tracker.. | 11:28 |
| LaoLang_cool | sliding from right to left will bring me to task manager view, how to close a app except click the x botton at the top right? | 11:29 |
| Stskeeps | close app is done in task manager view | 11:30 |
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| LaoLang_cool | hi, number lock mode is unavailable? I press '->' key twice, but still just input the alpha key | 11:31 |
| LaoLang_cool | shift lock mode is unavailable too | 11:32 |
| LaoLang_cool | any setting need to be done? | 11:32 |
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| LaoLang_coo_ | oh, I got disconnected | 11:36 |
| LaoLang_coo_ | shift lock mode is unavailable? | 11:36 |
| mike7b4athome | what speed does n900 SPIbus using, or more exacly is it a point buying a 30Mb/s microsdcard? like this one: http://www.dustinhome.se/product/5010640726/sandisk-microsdhc-mobile-ultra-class-10-8-gb/ | 11:36 |
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| dm8tbr | mike7b4athome: I'd hope that the SD is not connected to SPI but SDIO... | 11:38 |
| mike7b4athome | ah ok, but still :) | 11:38 |
| LaoLang_coo_ | oh, lick terminal icon, then nothing happened... | 11:39 |
| LaoLang_coo_ | s/lick/click/ | 11:39 |
| dm8tbr | mike7b4athome: the interesting bit is to find a card that has good random-io performance | 11:39 |
| msalmela | My N900 stopped booting up, it gets stuck on blue screen with Nemo text. Do I need to rewrite stuff into sd card or how I can reset the device? | 11:44 |
| alterego | w00t: well, it would work, but for some reason telephony isn't working in latest nemo image .. | 11:44 |
| Stskeeps | msalmela: just rewrite it | 11:44 |
| LaoLang_coo_ | A question, how to reboot n900? | 11:46 |
| LaoLang_coo_ | When I click refreshing Cache, it says: Unknown State :( | 11:46 |
| alterego | What package is systemd-journalctl in? | 11:46 |
| alterego | I can't seem to find it, doesn't appear to be in systemd-tools .. | 11:47 |
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| Hurrian | Hey guys. w00t referred me to here, so I guess I'll be helping out from now on/ | 11:51 |
| alterego | woo! :) Welcome Hurrian | 11:52 |
| Hurrian | I just loaded up the newest Nemo build on my N900, and I'm impressed - it's progressed a lot towards being Harmattan-like. | 11:53 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: journalctl | 11:53 |
| Stskeeps | it's called | 11:53 |
| Stskeeps | Hurrian: welcome onboard | 11:53 |
| Stskeeps | (do you say that in a submarine..?) | 11:53 |
| Hurrian | Thanks, Stskeeps, alterego. | 11:53 |
| LaoLang_coo_ | hi | 11:53 |
| LaoLang_coo_ | How to use nemo... | 11:54 |
| LaoLang_coo_ | How to lock shift key? How to reboot n900? How to open a xterm? | 11:54 |
| Hurrian | LaoLang_coo_: the terminal's like, right there | 11:54 |
| Hurrian | I don't think double-pressing Shift or BlueArrow work on anything other than Maemo | 11:55 |
| LaoLang_coo_ | Hurrian, It's nothing happen when I click xterm's icon :( | 11:55 |
| LaoLang_coo_ | Hurrian, hmm... | 11:55 |
| Hurrian | I noticed Nemo sorely lacked proper icons, so I joined in. | 11:57 |
| Hurrian | By the way, Stskeeps, which source tree does Nemo follow for the kernel? | 11:59 |
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| LaoLang_coo_ | Hurrian, how do you run xterm? here the icon doesn't work | 12:01 |
| Hurrian | It just works. Did you install Nemo fresh? | 12:01 |
| LaoLang_coo_ | And How to power off the machine? long press the power key as usual? | 12:02 |
| alterego | LaoLang_coo_: yeah, for 3 seconds | 12:02 |
| alterego | Try not to do it for 10 .. | 12:02 |
| LaoLang_coo_ | Hurrian, I installed it fresh | 12:03 |
| LaoLang_coo_ | It's the first time I go to nemo world | 12:03 |
| Hurrian | LaoLang_coo_, try to wait for it, it's a bit slow right after bootup | 12:04 |
| LaoLang_coo_ | After I power off for the first time, I can't reboot to nemo again... | 12:07 |
| LaoLang_coo_ | I have to remove sd card to boot to maemo | 12:08 |
| LaoLang_coo_ | will try again | 12:08 |
| Hurrian | Are you using uboot-pr13? | 12:08 |
| LaoLang_coo_ | Hurrian, yes | 12:08 |
| Hurrian | it checks the SD card to boot an OS every boot | 12:09 |
| Hurrian | Try using Pali's bootmenu | 12:09 |
| LaoLang_coo_ | Hurrian, kernel-power with Pali's uboot? | 12:10 |
| Hurrian | yeah | 12:10 |
| Hurrian | that way you don't need to take out your SD card | 12:10 |
| LaoLang_coo_ | Hurrian, ok, will try to install them | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | Hurrian: n900, 2.6.37 + a lot of patches, n950, 2.6.32 | 12:12 |
| Hurrian | Stskeeps, I noticed, yeah. They're in the MeeGo OBS with patches all strewn about with no README, right? | 12:13 |
| Hurrian | There are even some incomplete patch sets for what looks like 3.0 | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | Hurrian: pretty much - feb11 hit the paid kernel team a -lot- | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | so this is about as good as it gets with best experience | 12:13 |
| Hurrian | At least it boots with SGX drivers. That's as good as we're going to get kernel-side, I think. | 12:14 |
| Stskeeps | the problem is really power management | 12:14 |
| Hurrian | I'll see if I can manage to figure out which patches are needed, and try to build it with freemangordon's Thumb patches. | 12:14 |
| Stskeeps | you don't want something that warms your hands. | 12:14 |
| Hurrian | DVFS looks done though, and any further PM will have to come from userspace | 12:15 |
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| Hurrian | (Integrate the Smartreflex patches from Fremantle, maybe?) | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, but DVFS isn't the whole story | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | we had the actual people who worked on n900 original PM and still it was bizarrely hard | 12:16 |
| Hurrian | I assume said PM is for the harder stuff such as radios and peripheral components? | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 12:18 |
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| msalmela | I'm now doing first OBS change test and osc ci -> HTTP Error 403: Forbidden no permission to delete package meegotouch-controlpanelapplets in project Project:MTF:UX | 12:28 |
| msalmela | Aren't my changes going to my branch or do I need to define something | 12:28 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5431 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5431 | 12:30 |
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| alterego | w00t: how would you like to handle dialer errors when it fails to make a call? | 12:31 |
| alterego | w00t: I'm thinking the dialer ui should show and display the error, but if you have an error dialog yourself I can use that .. | 12:32 |
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| alterego | w00t: trying to reduce duplication, so I think using the dialer ui would be best, certainly easier from 3rd party apps point-of-view. | 12:32 |
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| Sage | alterego: follow 5431 ;) | 12:38 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5431 Accepted promotion request | 12:47 |
| alterego | Cool | 12:50 |
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| LaoLang_coo_ | What does this mean: Bad media attach point: http://repo.pub.meego.com/CE:/Apps/CE_MW_Shared_armv7hl/ | 13:07 |
| LaoLang_coo_ | When `zypper up` | 13:07 |
| LaoLang_coo_ | Should I ignore it? | 13:07 |
| Hurrian | LaoLang_coo_, that's weird | 13:09 |
| Hurrian | what package are you updating? | 13:09 |
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| msalmela | Stskeeps: Any guess where my forbidden error might come from when doing osc ci? I'm following quite well instructions on merproject wikipages. | 13:18 |
| Stskeeps | msalmela: i think you need to check out the branched project? | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | (how did you branch it?) | 13:19 |
| msalmela | osc -A https://api.pub.meego.com/ co Project:MTF:UX/meegotouch-controlpanelapplets | 13:19 |
| msalmela | And I believe I created a branch | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | okay, you branch with osc -A https://api.pub.meego.com branch Project:MTF:UX meegotouch-controlpanelapplets | 13:20 |
| msalmela | I'll try again | 13:21 |
| msalmela | => branch target package already exists | 13:23 |
| alterego | Well, there seems to be whole new interesting ofono issue O_O | 13:23 |
| alterego | It seems to be segfaulting whenever it's attempted to recieve dbus messages. | 13:23 |
| alterego | Well, whenever it's send dbus messages. | 13:24 |
| Stskeeps | good, then try.. osc -A https://api.pub.meego.com checkout home:msalmela:branches:Project:MTF:UX meegotouch-controlpanelapplets | 13:24 |
| Hurrian | heads up: it seems that the latest zypper refresh; zypper up takes out udev | 13:24 |
| Hurrian | …and zypper mysteriously depends on udev, for some reason | 13:24 |
| alterego | why?! WHHHHY!?!?!?! | 13:25 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: are we still doing /latest/ .ks'es in nemo? | 13:25 |
| msalmela | Okay, progressing | 13:26 |
| LaoLang_coo_ | I suspect that running nemo on sd card will shorten life of sd card quickly | 13:28 |
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| Stskeeps | LaoLang_coo_: not terribly much | 13:29 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: yes as we don't have static repos still | 13:31 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: okay | 13:31 |
| Stskeeps | Hurrian: udev is now part of systemd fwiw | 13:31 |
| Hurrian | Stskeeps, still have to put in a libudev.so.0 to get Nemo started again | 13:32 |
| Stskeeps | Hurrian: hrrm | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | Hurrian: it should have upgraded zypper too | 13:33 |
| Hurrian | Grabbing one from the original Aug5 image. | 13:33 |
| LaoLang_coo_ | Any where I can get the news about nemo? At current stage, I think I'm not suit for testing it | 13:34 |
| Hurrian | Stskeeps, it seems that the new udev is there, it's just that zypper bombed out before upgrading | 13:36 |
| Stskeeps | Hurrian: ah, fun | 13:36 |
| Hurrian | I also found out that Nemo uses up an inordinate amount of battery power. | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | it's been worse | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | are you on n900 or n950/n9? | 13:37 |
| Hurrian | N900. | 13:37 |
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| Stskeeps | still, it's been worse - i actually have it stretching in idle over a day | 13:37 |
| Hurrian | Idling over a day is stretching it? | 13:40 |
| Hurrian | At that rate, it noms through battery life thrice as fast as Maemo. | 13:41 |
| Stskeeps | sure | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | maemo is productised | 13:42 |
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| Stskeeps | Hurrian: did you ever see lipstick, btw? | 14:42 |
| Hurrian | Stskeeps, yup | 14:42 |
| Stskeeps | it might be a literal playground for you as well | 14:43 |
| Hurrian | Stskeeps, I'll look into it. Might even get me to learn QML. | 14:43 |
| Stskeeps | it took so bloody many manhours to make hildon-desktop in the past.. and now someone with half a brain can do it in 48 hours | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:44 |
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| msalmela | My change on OBS built successfully, but hmm, where I can download the package? Download center => 404 - Not Found | 15:01 |
| msalmela | Found | 15:02 |
| Stskeeps | msalmela: since it's a branch, publishing is disabled at first to save bandwidth | 15:03 |
| Stskeeps | you can enable it under repositories | 15:03 |
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| msalmela | Yes, I found that flag and changed it. Got some file from 'detailed information ...' | 15:04 |
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| Stskeeps | alright | 15:04 |
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| mike7b4athome | I must have fuckedup my sb2 install can create dir in sb2 $HOME as normall user? | 16:01 |
| mike7b4athome | can't* | 16:05 |
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| alterego | mike7b4athome: chown -R $USER /path/to/sb2/target-root | 17:22 |
| mike7b4athome | alterego, I had forgotten to mount sb2 before login | 17:23 |
| alterego | Ah :) | 17:24 |
| alterego | You mount sb2? | 17:24 |
| alterego | Are you talking about mer-sdk-chroot? | 17:24 |
| mike7b4athome | alterego, yeah I meant mer-sdk.-chroot :) | 17:24 |
| mike7b4athome | forgot: mer-sdk-chroot mount | 17:25 |
| alterego | Sage: do you think we could have the people icon replace conversations? Think I'd prever that. Or maybe the web quick launch icon | 17:26 |
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| msalmela | Does the settings app actually use libmeegocontrol libs? Even if I delete those libs, the settings app works. | 17:29 |
| Sage | msalmela: controlpanel is based MTF yes | 17:31 |
| Sage | but not sure about the libs | 17:32 |
| Stskeeps | msalmela: first i've heard of libmeegocontrol | 17:32 |
| alterego | msalmela: because the home screen also uses MTF, those libs are still in memory. | 17:32 |
| alterego | So just because the files aren't there, doesn't mean that the libs aren't loaded. | 17:32 |
| msalmela | Even after boot | 17:32 |
| alterego | interesting | 17:32 |
| msalmela | I have messed something | 17:33 |
| Stskeeps | msalmela: maybe its an obsolete api | 17:36 |
| Stskeeps | that none of the panels are using | 17:36 |
| alterego | w00t: submited a pull request for the dial contact integration. | 17:38 |
| msalmela | OK, I'm quitting for the day. This was fun. | 17:38 |
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| special | alterego: how is commhistory coming? | 20:23 |
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| tadzik | is there any guide for booting nemu with bootmenu? | 20:41 |
| tadzik | ISTR there were some issues with uboot vs kernel-power | 20:41 |
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| Sage | special: it is in CE:MW:MTF now | 21:00 |
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| special | I saw, I'm wondering how his usage of it is going :) | 21:00 |
| Sage | special: I did some work to get telepathy updated to latest version, got most of it packaged, but missing some things here and there. | 21:00 |
| special | I might be attacking that for messages pretty soon | 21:01 |
| Sage | special: need to ask alterego :) | 21:01 |
| special | anything you want from me to help with telepathy? | 21:01 |
| Sage | I spent more time today with kickstarter stuff than I originally planned so the telepathy didn't get much attention. | 21:01 |
| Sage | special: well testing stuff from https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3ACE%3AMW%3AShared is always welcome. Note that it depends on glib 2.32.0 that is not in Mer yet thus glib is there and not sure if that can break other stuff when installed. | 21:02 |
| special | I'll give it a try when I get a chance | 21:05 |
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| rc_ | w00t, thanks for the comments in github | 21:06 |
| Sage | special: well atleast the sip seems to work with those packages | 21:07 |
| rc_ | will try to address these once i find the time | 21:07 |
| Sage | special: did you have mc-tool lines for google talk jabber accont creation at hand? | 21:07 |
| special | Sage: mc-tool add gabble/jabber string:account=x@gmail.com string:password=x | 21:07 |
| special | iirc. | 21:07 |
| Sage | so no servers or nothing needed? | 21:08 |
| Sage | oh... | 21:08 |
| special | the server comes from the domain | 21:08 |
| Sage | err... sry sip didn't work wrong terminal ;) | 21:09 |
| special | killing mission-control and running it in a terminal with MC_DEBUG=1 MC_TP_DEBUG=all mission-control-5 can be very enlightening | 21:10 |
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| tadzik | is nemo on ext3 these days? | 21:12 |
| Sage | special: http://pastie.org/4408008 :) | 21:12 |
| special | well, that's terrifying | 21:13 |
| Sage | so my glib packaging is missing something propably | 21:13 |
| Sage | gsettings is replacing gconf right? | 21:14 |
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| special | I know nothing at all about it | 21:15 |
| tadzik | eh, no luck. If anyone knows how to have nemo and maemo/kernel-power along each other, please drop me a note | 21:16 |
| Sage | special: I think we need http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gsettings-desktop-schemas/ | 21:27 |
| special | mm | 21:32 |
| Sage | or maybe I could disable gsettings stuff as it seems new thing | 21:38 |
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| Sage | special: disable gsettings thingy and now it seems better | 21:56 |
| Sage | at least I can create the accounts now | 21:58 |
| special | I'm curious to see if they actually work | 21:59 |
| Sage | Can't get sip or jabber online | 22:04 |
| special | yeah, what I was seeing is that mc refuses to bring anything online because it thinks connman is reporting no connection | 22:05 |
| Sage | oh | 22:06 |
| Sage | I have connman turned off atm. :D | 22:06 |
| special | I'm not positive any of that is true, it was just my assumption from the mc log I had | 22:06 |
| Sage | well, we could just disable connman integration for now as well just to test it | 22:08 |
| special | I believe it was also applying that logic to ring, which would be a problem. | 22:08 |
| Sage | ok, I'll disable it now so we can exclude that | 22:09 |
| Sage | special: then there is still upower thing ;) | 22:22 |
| special | hmm? | 22:23 |
| Sage | Suspend tracking with UPower.: yes | 22:24 |
| Sage | if upower acts up then it might cause problems | 22:25 |
| Sage | anyway the connman is disabled in my branch now | 22:25 |
| special | ah, wasn't aware of the upower thing | 22:28 |
| Sage | (process:1144): mcd-DEBUG: account_reconnect: doing nothing (enabled=T, valid=T and combined presence=1) | 22:31 |
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| Sage | G_MESSAGES_DEBUG=all GABBLE_PERSIST=1 GABBLE_DEBUG=all /usr/libexec/telepathy-gabble <- should print gabble debug right? | 22:32 |
| Sage | getting nothing on reconnect thus asking | 22:33 |
| special | yes | 22:33 |
| special | make sure there isn't another gabble process somehow | 22:33 |
| special | but that's what I was seeing before with the upgrade too | 22:34 |
| Sage | hmmp | 22:34 |
| special | mc won't even ask them to connect, and they have little to do until they are connected | 22:34 |
| Sage | yes, it doesn't seem mc sends anything | 22:35 |
| * special updates | 22:36 | |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/4408370 is only thing I get to mc with G_MESSAGES_DEBUG=all MC_DEBUG=1 MC_TP_DEBUG=all /usr/libexec/mission-control-5 | 22:37 |
| special | Sage: try mc-tool auto-connect gabble/jabber/marko_2esaukko_40gmail_2ecom0 on | 22:39 |
| Sage | \o/ | 22:40 |
| special | reconnect might (correctly) not do anything if auto-connect is off and there's no immediate use of the account | 22:40 |
| special | from what I am reading | 22:40 |
| Sage | http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/VkO5bjcZyFTsATRc3B0N <- just read about this and tried auto-precense with segfaulted :P | 22:41 |
| Sage | special: nice spot. | 22:41 |
| Sage | ok, jabber and sip both online now | 22:41 |
| Sage | sry, jabber online, sip available | 22:42 |
| Sage | ok, now both online :) | 22:42 |
| * Sage hugs special | 22:43 | |
| special | excellent | 22:43 |
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| Sage | special: not sure if you use telepathy-qt4 but it has some api changes apparently | 22:47 |
| Sage | so something you might want to check with the qmlmessages etc. | 22:47 |
| special | I do use it | 22:48 |
| special | I've been working off of the lastest docs, so it shouldn't be an issue | 22:48 |
| special | but I will test | 22:48 |
| special | have to run out for dinner at the moment | 22:49 |
| Sage | 2am so I probably should go to sleep :D | 22:51 |
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| Guest5739 | is this good for use? Samsung microSDHC Class 10 Plus 16GB | 23:02 |
| lbt | Guest5739: probably | 23:03 |
| Guest5739 | yeah to boot nemo that is | 23:04 |
| Guest5739 | i read on forums that some samsung have problems :) | 23:05 |
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