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| Stskeeps | good morning simosagi | 07:15 |
| simosagi | morning! | 07:15 |
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| simosagi | Is bluetooth supposed to be working on N950? | 07:21 |
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| Venemo_N9 | good morning :) | 07:22 |
| aaporantalainen | is there place for bugs in virtualbox images? | 07:29 |
| Stskeeps | yes, x86 adaptation | 07:29 |
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| Venemo_N9 | I learned a lot of things yesterday | 07:32 |
| Stskeeps | simosagi: hmm, that's a good question. where are you seeing it's not? | 07:33 |
| simosagi | I see that device e.g. shows BT address, but I cannot enable it in settings | 07:34 |
| Venemo_N9 | for example, DBus has its own sessions which don't work properly through SSH | 07:34 |
| timoph | you can source the env | 07:35 |
| Venemo_N9 | indeed | 07:35 |
| rcg | morning | 07:35 |
| Venemo_N9 | I need to check the current DBus session id on the device and export it in my SSH session | 07:35 |
| Venemo_N9 | another thing is that one needs to set an X window property to tell sysuid about the current orientation of the window | 07:37 |
| Venemo_N9 | and interestingly, an issue similar to bug 84 happens when opening the status menu from lipstick | 07:38 |
| Venemo_N9 | and for some reason, the status menu's window appears in my task switcher... :D | 07:39 |
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| simosagi | I have a question on package submission | 08:01 |
| Stskeeps | simosagi: i think the control panel is broken, can you maybe bring it up with rfkill/hcitool? | 08:02 |
| simosagi | Stskeeps: I'll try it | 08:03 |
| Stskeeps | you're not the first to run into that issue, i think | 08:03 |
| simosagi | About packages: yesterday my fix oin CE:UX:MTF was declined by Sage as I did not submit it first to Project:MTF:UX. Now I sent it there. Can I reopen the first request or shoud I wait that fix in Project is accepted? | 08:05 |
| Sage | simosagi: I will forward it to CE:UX:MTF from the Project:MTF:UX | 08:07 |
| simosagi | Sage: ok | 08:07 |
| Sage | it is a bit confusing structure atm. but will be improved when we restructure the stuff :) | 08:07 |
| simosagi | So anyway all fixes get submitted only in Project? | 08:08 |
| simosagi | Stskeeps: 'hcitool scan' doesn't find anything. In dmesg hci_h4p has 2 lines: Registering and requesting firmware | 08:12 |
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| Sage | simosagi: for projects that have Project counter part, for projects that don't have are submitted as such. | 08:19 |
| jussi | does flasher need to be run as root? | 08:21 |
| jussi | Picked ape-algo from a FIASCO file | 08:21 |
| jussi | Suitable USB interface (bootloader/phonet) not found, waiting... | 08:21 |
| jussi | USB device found at bus 002, device address 015. | 08:21 |
| jussi | Device identifier: (null) (SN: N/A) | 08:21 |
| jussi | Error claiming USB interface: Operation not permitted | 08:21 |
| Sage | jussi: yes | 08:22 |
| jussi | Sage: ok, thanks | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | simosagi: hmm, can you check if /lib/firmware contains the right thing, should also be in harmattan | 08:23 |
| simosagi | Stskeeps: what do you mean? /lib/firmware/ti1273.bin is a blob of 40kB of data. I'm not sure what should I check. | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | simosagi: i'm just wondering if the firmware gets loaded properly, usually a good place to look first :) | 08:27 |
| jussi | Sage: can you point me to the correct nemo image? | 08:27 |
| Sage | jussi: you should find all the info from http://wiki.merproject.com/wiki/Nemo/Installing if you don't then we need to improve our guide | 08:28 |
| jussi | Sage: Im there, and yes, the guide needs improving. | 08:28 |
| Sage | ok, what are you missing? | 08:29 |
| jussi | ok, I go here, but I dont see images for N9... http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/0.20120614.1.NEMO.2012-07-02.1/images/ | 08:29 |
| w00t | Sage: did you look at the messaging/accounts SRs yet? | 08:29 |
| Sage | w00t: accounts pointed to wrong url at least did you fix that already? | 08:30 |
| Sage | jussi: N950/N9 use same images | 08:30 |
| w00t | Sage: I didn't know, as the request is still open I think | 08:30 |
| w00t | Sage: any problems with messaging? | 08:30 |
| Sage | w00t: that was ok. accepted | 08:31 |
| w00t | ok | 08:32 |
| w00t | will look at accounts now | 08:32 |
| Venemo_N9 | hi w00t | 08:32 |
| w00t | hi | 08:32 |
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| jussi | Sage: I only need the .tar.bz 2, right? | 08:33 |
| simosagi | Stskeeps: when I run bluetoothd on command line I get a "Can't init device hci0: Operation not possible due to RF-kill (132)". But where is rfkill command? | 08:34 |
| Stskeeps | simosagi: hmm.. | 08:35 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 08:35 |
| Stskeeps | might be connman fooling around with stuff | 08:35 |
| Sage | jussi: as the guide says ;) | 08:35 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5357 Accepted promotion request | 08:35 |
| jussi | after umount I can just reboot the device, right? | 08:35 |
| Stskeeps | can you check /var/lib/connman/settings and see if it has anything about bluetooth? | 08:35 |
| Sage | jussi: instructions in guide yes | 08:36 |
| jussi | Sage: the guide does not say that ;) | 08:36 |
| Sage | jussi: yes it does | 08:36 |
| simosagi | Stskeeps: it has a nice [Bluetooth] section with Enable=false :) | 08:36 |
| Sage | jussi: oh, dual boot missing part of text. single boot said it :) | 08:37 |
| jussi | Sage: not meaning to be annoying, but it doesnt in that section.. | 08:37 |
| jussi | hehe | 08:37 |
| Stskeeps | simosagi: hmm, ok | 08:38 |
| * Sage goes to modify guide | 08:38 | |
| jussi | and we have nemo, thanks Sage, Stskeeps and jukkaeklund | 08:38 |
| * Sage kicks mer wiki to give it a bit more speed | 08:38 | |
| faenil_pingme | good morning guys :) | 08:38 |
| jukkaeklund | jussi, congrats! | 08:38 |
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| Stskeeps | simosagi: | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | Install connman-test from repo | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | run command *test-connman enable bluetooth* | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | it might be called connman-tests | 08:39 |
| Venemo_N9 | w00t, do you have an idea about my status menu issue? | 08:40 |
| Stskeeps | simosagi: in /usr/lib/connman/tests | 08:40 |
| simosagi | Stskeeps: ok | 08:40 |
| Stskeeps | simosagi: let me know if that works | 08:40 |
| w00t | Venemo_N9: I don't know what your issue is :-) | 08:41 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5364 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5364 | 08:42 |
| Venemo_N9 | when I open the status menu from lipstick, the thing that appears below it isn't how the desktop actually looks | 08:42 |
| jussi | can I ssh in via USB? | 08:42 |
| w00t | Venemo_N9: got a photo/screenshot? | 08:43 |
| Venemo_N9 | for example when I open it in landscape once, it will always paint that landscape-rendered desktop below it | 08:43 |
| Venemo_N9 | interestingly, the issue doesn't appear when I'm on the task switcher | 08:44 |
| Venemo_N9 | w00t, sorry, I don't have screenshots, and I don't have the device with me | 08:44 |
| Venemo_N9 | but you can reproduce by cloning my lipstick repo | 08:45 |
| simosagi | Stskeeps: bluetoothd doesn't complain anymore, but control panel still doesn't allow to enable BT | 08:45 |
| Stskeeps | simosagi: i think the control panel didn't get updated with newest connman api upgrade | 08:45 |
| Stskeeps | that's a bug for sure | 08:45 |
| Venemo_N9 | jussi, yes you can | 08:46 |
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| simosagi | Stskeeps: so should I file a bug to which component? control-panel? | 08:47 |
| faenil | w00t, open app, minimize app, click on status bar.... | 08:47 |
| Venemo_N9 | jussi, you may have to configure it manually on your machine | 08:47 |
| jussi | Venemo_N9: could you provide a little more info on how to go about that? | 08:47 |
| Venemo_N9 | faenil, indeed its similar to that | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | simosagi: yes | 08:48 |
| faenil | Venemo_N9, must be the same issue we've talking about in the last days, but none has looked into yet :) | 08:48 |
| faenil | we've been* | 08:48 |
| faenil | Venemo_N9, have you got any idea why the status bar pixmap also includes the background of the whole screen? | 08:50 |
| Venemo_N9 | jussi, I plug in the N950, then I edit the connection in nm-connection-editor | 08:50 |
| Venemo_N9 | faenil, it doesn't | 08:50 |
| Venemo_N9 | and I know that for a fact | 08:50 |
| faenil | Venemo_N9, didn't you say that 2 days ago? | 08:50 |
| Venemo_N9 | no | 08:51 |
| faenil | :/ | 08:51 |
| jussi | Venemo_N9: ok, but what is it I need to edit there/where can I find this info? | 08:51 |
| Venemo_N9 | it contains both the landscape and portrait status bars on one image | 08:51 |
| faenil | ohhhh, ok | 08:52 |
| Venemo_N9 | jussi, you need to set the IP address to manual and it should be 192.168.2.14 | 08:52 |
| faenil | from you sentence it was unclear :) | 08:52 |
| Venemo_N9 | faenil, sorry. | 08:52 |
| faenil | np :) | 08:52 |
| jussi | Venemo_N9: thank you, I now have connection. | 08:53 |
| faenil | but still, when the status bar is painted, the whole screen is updated, with the wrong background (old one) | 08:53 |
| Venemo_N9 | jussi, IP of the device will be 192.168.2.15 | 08:53 |
| Venemo_N9 | jussi, you can also use wifi | 08:54 |
| jussi | Venemo_N9: I guessed that, as well as the nemo/nemo | 08:54 |
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| jussi | :D | 08:54 |
| jussi | but thank you | 08:54 |
| jussi | now I just need to remember file copy/scp commands... | 08:54 |
| Venemo_N9 | faenil, are you certain? | 08:54 |
| faenil | Venemo_N9, nope, just my idea based on what I see | 08:55 |
| Venemo_N9 | jussi, 'scp yourfile nemo@192.168.2.15:/home/nemo' | 08:55 |
| jussi | Venemo_N9: thanks! | 08:55 |
| faenil | Venemo_N9, how can you write that much with a vkb? I admire you :D | 08:55 |
| Venemo_N9 | I use Swype | 08:56 |
| faenil | yeah I know :) but still ^^ | 08:56 |
| Venemo_N9 | faenil, I think that the compositor doesn't repaint the desktop correctly and that's the problem | 08:56 |
| faenil | Venemo_N9, well yes, that is the problem of course | 08:56 |
| faenil | in mcompositor, mostlikely | 08:56 |
| Venemo_N9 | maybe it needs to be told about it somehow. | 08:56 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5365 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5365 | 09:06 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5363 Rejected promotion request | 09:06 |
| Venemo_N9 | anyway, I'll be back later | 09:08 |
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| wellu | hi all! | 09:26 |
| wellu | Where do I find the source code for e.g https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=234 | 09:28 |
| * w00t clicks | 09:29 | |
| faenil | wellu, wait a sec ;) | 09:30 |
| faenil | w00t, me first me frist | 09:30 |
| faenil | lol | 09:30 |
| w00t | that one is https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugins/tree/master/thumbnailer | 09:30 |
| w00t | john is 'special' on IRC if you have any questions, btw | 09:30 |
| wellu | thanks. | 09:31 |
| wellu | was looking under merproject... Still confused with all the "projects" | 09:31 |
| jussi | is there a text editor included by default on mer/nemo? | 09:32 |
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| jussi | oh... vim... | 09:33 |
| w00t | wellu: the basic split is that mer covers basic middleware to get things booting and things that could be shared across many projects (Qt, etc).. UX-specific middleware, the UX itself, and applications belong elsewhere - in our case, nemo, but there's also e.g. plasma active, .. | 09:33 |
| jussi | :/ | 09:33 |
| wellu | w00t: seems logical | 09:34 |
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| timoph | o_O | 09:39 |
| timoph | vesse: o/ | 09:39 |
| vesse | timoph: well hello there | 09:40 |
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| faenil | special, you there? | 10:20 |
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| w00t | faenil: he's north-america based, so not yet | 10:22 |
| faenil | w00t, thanks, precious info :D | 10:22 |
| faenil | wanted him to try the latest version, we'll do it later ;) | 10:23 |
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| lockywolf | hello | 10:26 |
| lockywolf | why does specify create wrong .spec's? | 10:26 |
| faenil | I should also have an update pinching algo I wrote back in january for the gallery, but I forgot where it is, and I never committed...-.- | 10:26 |
| Stskeeps | lockywolf: wrong? | 10:27 |
| lockywolf | just a second | 10:27 |
| lockywolf | i cloned qmlfilemuncher in obs | 10:33 |
| lockywolf | added myfix.patch to the patches section | 10:33 |
| lockywolf | I run specify: | 10:33 |
| lockywolf | I get: | 10:33 |
| lockywolf | Warning: !!! Current spectacle version is lower than the one used for this package previously | 10:33 |
| lockywolf | 0.24.1 instead of 0.24 | 10:34 |
| lockywolf | how could qmlfilemuncher be created with a spectacle of higher version? | 10:36 |
| Stskeeps | somebody using a later version not in sdk | 10:37 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5366 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5366 | 10:42 |
| priyan | Stskeeps: I am unable to install my custom meegotouchcp-datetime rpm package on device. Its a lock error. It seems Sudo is not working. Any clue? | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | priyan: su , password nemo | 10:44 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: it is in the sdk, just in the -next sdk | 10:44 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: and unfortunately, BOSS bitches whenever anything that isn't using 0.24.1 is submitted | 10:44 |
| lockywolf | how can I tell zypper to use my obs repo? | 10:47 |
| Stskeeps | zypper ar | 10:47 |
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| w00t | don't forget to enable publishing | 10:54 |
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| jussi | woot, picphone installed :D (and working). | 11:02 |
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| Venemo | hey | 11:07 |
| Stskeeps | hey Venemo | 11:08 |
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| lockywolf | yes | 11:09 |
| lockywolf | congratulate me | 11:09 |
| lockywolf | i fixed a bug | 11:09 |
| Stskeeps | congratulations :) | 11:09 |
| lockywolf | #153 | 11:09 |
| the-boss | lockywolf: Error: "153" is not a valid command. | 11:09 |
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| lockywolf | number 153 | 11:10 |
| lockywolf | So, I created a package on my own repo | 11:10 |
| Venemo | hi Stskeeps :) | 11:10 |
| lockywolf | how do I ask to include my patch in the upstream? | 11:10 |
| w00t | lockywolf: submit a pull request on github | 11:11 |
| w00t | (as that's code we maintain) | 11:11 |
| Venemo | so | 11:12 |
| Venemo | for whatever reason, mcompositor fails to render the desktop correctly when either animations are running or transculent windows are on top | 11:13 |
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| lockywolf | mmm .. how do I do it? | 11:16 |
| lockywolf | i have a github account | 11:16 |
| w00t | lockywolf: seen https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests/ ? | 11:22 |
| Venemo | lockywolf: can I ask what you're doing exactly? | 11:25 |
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| Venemo | w00t: do you have any thoughts on that bug? I'm almost sure that it's mcompositor's fault. it's also possible that we are using it wrong. | 11:26 |
| w00t | Venemo: i'm a bit busy at the moment, can I come back to you in 20-30 mins? | 11:26 |
| Venemo | w00t: sure you can | 11:26 |
| w00t | (= can't divert brainpower atm) | 11:26 |
| faenil | :) | 11:26 |
| Venemo | no problem :) | 11:26 |
| faenil | Venemo, that bug is annoying isn't it :D | 11:26 |
| Venemo | faenil: the bug isn't, the fact that we haven't fixed it is. | 11:27 |
| faenil | I hate it when it flashes wrong screens :P | 11:27 |
| Venemo | ok, I admit I hate it too | 11:28 |
| Venemo | very interesting thing is that it doesn't happen as much when I'm on lipstick's task switcher | 11:28 |
| faenil | mm | 11:28 |
| Venemo | and I know for a fact that the task switcher will update(=repaint) itself when it receives damage events for its pixmaps. | 11:29 |
| Venemo | this is why I'm guessing that the issue comes from the desktop not being redrawed sometimes. | 11:29 |
| Venemo | so the solution _may_ be to make the desktop redraw itself at the proper times. | 11:29 |
| Venemo | but it still needs investigating how and when | 11:29 |
| lockywolf | looks like I got it | 11:33 |
| lockywolf | Cloned a Git and Sent to nemomobile/qmlfilemuncher a merge request | 11:33 |
| lockywolf | Who can check if I have done everything correctly? | 11:35 |
| faenil | I received an email :) so the request should be ok :) | 11:35 |
| lockywolf | If the bug is really fixed and the bug in th bugzilla can be closed? | 11:35 |
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| faenil | lockywolf, yes if it's really fixed it can be closed | 11:37 |
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| w00t | faenil: where do you turn those mails on? | 11:38 |
| faenil | w00t, I don't remember...I don't think I have actually ever asked for those emails :) | 11:39 |
| faenil | I CCed myself on nemo's bugzilla, but not on github | 11:40 |
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| faenil | w00t, don't you receive them? | 11:41 |
| w00t | not afaik | 11:41 |
| faenil | I thought I received them because I am a "Member of the organization" on github...but you are too | 11:42 |
| faenil | w00t, check this out https://github.com/settings/notifications | 11:43 |
| faenil | that must be it | 11:43 |
| w00t | everything is enabled there | 11:44 |
| faenil | :/ | 11:45 |
| faenil | w00t, and do you see lockywolf PR here? https://github.com/inbox/notifications | 11:45 |
| w00t | nope | 11:46 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5369 Rejected promotion request | 11:46 |
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| faenil | mmm | 11:46 |
| w00t | tried adding myself to the developers team, maybe that'll fix it :) | 11:46 |
| faenil | :) | 11:47 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5370 Rejected promotion request | 11:53 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5371 Rejected promotion request | 11:57 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5372 Rejected promotion request | 12:02 |
| faenil | great! no problems with landscape while zoomed in :) | 12:04 |
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| Venemo | faenil: in the gallery? | 12:15 |
| faenil | Venemo, yes | 12:26 |
| faenil | Venemo, but I'll just reset zoom when rotating, that's what all viewers do | 12:27 |
| Venemo | faenil: that's OK | 12:27 |
| faenil | thinking about optimizations at the moment, while I wait for special to come alive :D | 12:28 |
| lockywolf | how can I see if the submit request has passed the automatic review? | 12:28 |
| lockywolf | is it worth upgrading spectacle to 0.24.1 by hand? | 12:42 |
| aaporantalainen | I'm planning to branch meegotouchcp-datetime (from Project:MTF:UX). How sould I do it? I tested to branch it to my home-project, but then it misses another packages (e.g. meegotouch). | 12:45 |
| * Stskeeps looks | 12:46 | |
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| Stskeeps | aaporantalainen: what branch way did you use? | 12:46 |
| aaporantalainen | I don't understand question | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | aaporantalainen: well, how did you branch it :) | 12:47 |
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| aaporantalainen | "Home project" -> "Packages" -> "Branch package from other project " | 12:48 |
| aaporantalainen | this is the way how I have successed branching | 12:49 |
| aaporantalainen | success means: a) package is compiled and it goes to the repository + b) I can see it via osc | 12:50 |
| Stskeeps | ok, can you try to remove the branches:Project:MTF:UX project and then try https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=meegotouchcp-datetime&project=Project%3AMTF%3AUX and "branch package" instead? | 12:51 |
| Stskeeps | the repos look really odd in your branch | 12:51 |
| Stskeeps | we're importing a new mer release right now, so don't be surprised if it's a bit slo atm | 12:52 |
| aaporantalainen | how about my repos now? I removed every testing branches, and now there are only home-project left. | 12:53 |
| aaporantalainen | For me it shows four repositories. | 12:54 |
| Stskeeps | try to do what i said, verify repository look same as in Project:MTF:UX | 12:54 |
| aaporantalainen | but is my initial state currently ok? | 12:55 |
| lockywolf | >>we're importing a new mer release | 12:55 |
| lockywolf | sorry | 12:56 |
| Stskeeps | aaporantalainen: much better now | 12:57 |
| aaporantalainen | ok. now I done that another way to branch: [search] -> select package -> "Branch package" | 12:58 |
| aaporantalainen | how to access it via osc? | 12:58 |
| aaporantalainen | answering myself: osc co home:aaporantalainen:branches:Project:MTF:UX | 13:11 |
| w00t | alterego: btw, https://github.com/nemomobile/qmldialer still looks very much out of date, didn't you say you were going to fix that? | 13:14 |
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| alterego | w00t: that package is redundant. | 13:16 |
| alterego | That's meego-handset-dialer | 13:17 |
| w00t | yes, because at the time, that was the dialer we had | 13:17 |
| * w00t still has no idea where the magical new dialer lives, where the package is, or why it's all seperate from everything else we're maintaining, which is a bit of a problem when I'll need to touch it to look at contacts stuff :P | 13:17 | |
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| alterego | I told you, it's in gitorious :P | 13:18 |
| alterego | The package is in CE:Apps | 13:18 |
| w00t | that isn't useful at all (where? gitorious is huge), and it's not useful from a process POV | 13:18 |
| alterego | voicecall | 13:18 |
| w00t | we can't tell new developers "here's our bugs, go fork a package and send us a pull request" when it doesn't all fit into that model | 13:18 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: btw, one recurrent theme.. can we enforce having in .spec files where the upstream git or tarballs are? | 13:18 |
| w00t | if you don't want to use github, that's fine, but that's a discussion that everyone needs to have, not just one part of the UI | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: people are having difficulties finding where our actual sources are | 13:19 |
| alterego | w00t: in the .spec it references the git project | 13:20 |
| w00t | ok, so here's the thing, I'm saying that from the perspective of ease of workflow for everyone, that isn't really good enough | 13:20 |
| w00t | we decided a long time ago to use github for shared projects, everything in one place, one workflow, etc | 13:20 |
| w00t | why are you not doing that? | 13:21 |
| alterego | Well, I did say I'd move to github, I've just not had the time. | 13:22 |
| alterego | If I do it now, will that make you happy? :P | 13:22 |
| w00t | I've already delt with a lot of people who didn't know where our source was, and being able to say "it's on github at http://github.com/nemomobile, send a pull request" is a lot easier than "well actually it's on github unless you're working on XYZ" :P | 13:22 |
| alterego | Also, what do I do with the contents of that project now? | 13:22 |
| w00t | well, you said it's called voicecall? | 13:22 |
| alterego | Do I just git rm it all, and lose my history? | 13:22 |
| w00t | we'll just dump a new repository there | 13:22 |
| w00t | is the old one ok to dump completely? | 13:23 |
| alterego | Hmm, | 13:23 |
| w00t | (removed from nemo?) | 13:23 |
| alterego | Yes | 13:23 |
| w00t | *poof*, repository gone | 13:23 |
| alterego | WAIT! | 13:23 |
| alterego | lol | 13:23 |
| Venemo | lol | 13:24 |
| w00t | https://github.com/nemomobile/voicecall | 13:24 |
| w00t | push at will | 13:24 |
| alterego | done :P | 13:25 |
| w00t | \o/ | 13:26 |
| alterego | Now, about my question :) | 13:29 |
| alterego | avatar and name, by number :) | 13:29 |
| lockywolf | how can i get URLS of zypper repositories? | 13:29 |
| w00t | alterego: did you forget push --tags btw? | 13:29 |
| Stskeeps | lockywolf: /etc/zypp/repos.d | 13:30 |
| w00t | alterego: right now, you can't do that, list only.. I guess that's for incoming calls, right? | 13:30 |
| alterego | Yeah | 13:31 |
| alterego | And history | 13:31 |
| alterego | w00t: no tags yet. | 13:31 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: yes, there are bugs in bugzilla about wrong urls. | 13:31 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: but every package should have URL that points to upstream git or website where it is found. | 13:31 |
| alterego | I'll start tagging for each release from now on. | 13:31 |
| w00t | you made releases - without tags? *tsk* :) | 13:31 |
| w00t | yeah | 13:32 |
| alterego | I was very rushed in to release and it was late w:P | 13:32 |
| w00t | minor detail, but useful to know at a glance what code was in each release | 13:32 |
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| alterego | So, I'm guessing that I'll need to iterate through every contact and match myself? | 13:32 |
| w00t | please don't | 13:33 |
| w00t | I'll come up with something for you | 13:33 |
| alterego | I didn't say I want to .. | 13:33 |
| w00t | if you can delay that part for now that'd be good :-p | 13:33 |
| w00t | you only need to search by number? | 13:33 |
| * alterego ponders | 13:33 | |
| alterego | Well, yes, but it has to be a fuzzy search | 13:34 |
| Venemo | fuzzy how? | 13:34 |
| w00t | I know that number searching is .. complex | 13:34 |
| w00t | dealt with it before to some extent | 13:34 |
| alterego | country code prefixes. | 13:34 |
| w00t | and a lot more | 13:34 |
| Venemo | ah, right. | 13:34 |
| Venemo | good luck :) | 13:34 |
| w00t | e.g. you might save numbers locally with 333 - 222 - 111 formatting or god knows what else... | 13:34 |
| alterego | Nokia cheated in one dialer version I remember seeing them just match the last 6 digits. | 13:34 |
| w00t | abustany: did qct have code to handle this in lookups, or do I misremember? | 13:34 |
| alterego | I don't remember it having that. | 13:35 |
| w00t | you wouldn't see it, unless you looked at the actual implementation | 13:35 |
| alterego | I basically copied Nokias cheat and did a full list iteration and match for the prototype | 13:35 |
| abustany | alterego: last 7 actually | 13:35 |
| abustany | but it's configurable | 13:35 |
| alterego | abustany: yeah, was wondering if it was 7 :P | 13:36 |
| abustany | we do store a normalized version of the number yes | 13:36 |
| abustany | and actually there might even be a branch with much smarter code | 13:36 |
| abustany | but we never got the right to merge it for nokia | 13:36 |
| abustany | the much smarter version checks against the DB of country codes, and strips that if found | 13:36 |
| abustany | instead of doing a blind string.right(7) | 13:36 |
| abustany | we also strip all the formatting in the normalized version of course | 13:36 |
| w00t | abustany: is the normalised version accessible from QtContacts? (please say yes, please say yes, please say yes...) :) | 13:36 |
| abustany | and if you use qct to do a number lookup, use the right MatchFlags | 13:37 |
| abustany | aka MatchPhoneNumber | 13:37 |
| abustany | if you need to normalize in other apps, the qct lib has methods for that iirc | 13:37 |
| sledges | hello | 13:37 |
| abustany | in the end it's not bullet proof, but it works okayish | 13:37 |
| w00t | I'd rather not do that, because we'll have a model with this info already in it | 13:37 |
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| w00t | so was thinking to find out where the lookup is done and look into exporting it via -extensions | 13:37 |
| abustany | I don't remember if a QContactFetchRequest returns the normalized phone number | 13:37 |
| sledges | an easy one (hope so): on VirtualBox, says Process ohmd (pid: 365, ti=f2a8a000 ... and the boot halts (latest nemo release) | 13:38 |
| w00t | pretty sure it doesn't.. | 13:38 |
| abustany | the lookup is done in tracker | 13:38 |
| abustany | we store the normalized version in maemo:localPhoneNumber | 13:38 |
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| abustany | iirc | 13:38 |
| w00t | k | 13:38 |
| abustany | when fetching I'm not sure if you get that field back | 13:38 |
| abustany | it'd be trivial to add it if not | 13:38 |
| abustany | (note, if we only had country code prefixes it'd be great. You also have region prefixes, false prefixes which makes that two numbers are equal even if they look different, etc.) | 13:39 |
| w00t | yeah.. | 13:39 |
| abustany | if you have the info in the model, you could obviously have a QHash<normalizedPhoneNumber, localId> | 13:40 |
| w00t | *nod* | 13:40 |
| abustany | but it'd be good to fetch the normalized version from tracker in this case | 13:40 |
| abustany | and not compute it on each contact | 13:40 |
| abustany | although it should not be too expensive, as a first draft | 13:40 |
| w00t | hmm: | 13:41 |
| w00t | http://qtl.me/x51.txt | 13:41 |
| abustany | yeah so it does not fetch it | 13:41 |
| abustany | but adding it is monkey copy paste :) | 13:41 |
| abustany | oooh, convertToLatin, I had forgotten this one :) | 13:41 |
| abustany | because you also get hindi and parsi numbers :p | 13:42 |
| abustany | *farsi | 13:42 |
| w00t | hehe... | 13:44 |
| w00t | I guess we could add it as a new field | 13:44 |
| alterego | lol | 13:44 |
| w00t | QContactPhoneNumber::FieldNormalizedNumber, or something | 13:45 |
| abustany | yep | 13:46 |
| alterego | Well, next question, how do you invisage making a call? | 13:47 |
| alterego | You need to have a way of select call provider (gsm,sip,google,blah) | 13:47 |
| abustany | in Harmattan this was all going through telepathy | 13:47 |
| abustany | but iirc you're using ofono? | 13:48 |
| alterego | We have a direct ofono backend, but I'm going to be moving to telepathy. | 13:48 |
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| abustany | so TP on top of ofono? | 13:48 |
| alterego | Yes | 13:49 |
| w00t | alterego: kind of depends on how we decide to do accounts | 13:49 |
| w00t | in harmattan, it was done by looking for all accounts that supported call capabilities | 13:49 |
| abustany | well, libaccounts and libsso are open source :) | 13:49 |
| abustany | (and canonical is backing them, actually Alberto, the creator, is working for them now) | 13:49 |
| w00t | they are, yes | 13:49 |
| w00t | and we'll likely look at that | 13:49 |
| w00t | the point being that at the moment it's not really defined | 13:50 |
| abustany | not sure if the mission control patches to use sso are though | 13:50 |
| w00t | I seem to remember some parts of all that were closed, at least | 13:50 |
| w00t | sasl login doodads or whatever | 13:50 |
| abustany | which is kind of braindead | 13:50 |
| abustany | you have two OSS components, and the patch to make them interact is closed | 13:50 |
| abustany | but well | 13:50 |
| alterego | lol | 13:51 |
| faenil | xD | 13:51 |
| alterego | Well, I guess my dialer will act as the filter for call providers. | 13:51 |
| alterego | As it does that naturally. | 13:51 |
| w00t | alterego: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=300 | 13:52 |
| alterego | Okay, cool. | 13:52 |
| alterego | What I'm going to do, is add a "defaultProvider" property to my declarative interface. | 13:53 |
| alterego | For now, just use that and you'll get calls for free :D | 13:53 |
| alterego | So to call you'd do something like: vcm.dial(vcm.defaultProviderId, msisdn); | 13:56 |
| alterego | w00t: also, about app configuration. What do you think I should use, GConf or .ini files? | 13:58 |
| alterego | I'm thinking ini files for now .. | 13:58 |
| sledges | found vital typo in Mer's ..wiki/Nemo/Testing_with_Virtualbox: a vm image needs to be used, otherwise ohmd crashes and boot halts (will correct there now: s/nemo-handset-i586-***.img/nemo-handset-i586-vm-***.img) | 14:02 |
| w00t | alterego: QSettings won't give you built-in notifications like gconf will | 14:02 |
| alterego | Hmm | 14:03 |
| w00t | so if they're user-settable, that might not be the best choice | 14:03 |
| alterego | Yeah, good point. | 14:03 |
| faenil | in case it's not already known, when I maximize an app I get | 14:03 |
| faenil | X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 | 14:03 |
| faenil | Extension: 150 (Uknown extension) | 14:03 |
| faenil | Minor opcode: 1 (Unknown request) | 14:03 |
| faenil | Resource id: 0x0 | 14:03 |
| alterego | w00t: much better than using a QFileSystemWatcher ;) | 14:03 |
| faenil | and when I minimize it I get | 14:04 |
| faenil | Meego graphics system destroyed | 14:04 |
| faenil | X Error: BadDamage (invalid Damage parameter) 165 | 14:04 |
| faenil | Extension: 150 (Uknown extension) | 14:04 |
| faenil | Minor opcode: 2 (Unknown request) | 14:04 |
| faenil | Resource id: 0x1a00031 | 14:04 |
| alterego | faenil: yeah, think everyone gets that ;) | 14:04 |
| faenil | is that related to the famous ohmd problem? | 14:04 |
| alterego | no | 14:04 |
| alterego | mcompositor | 14:04 |
| faenil | ok | 14:05 |
| faenil | nokia gained +9% yesterday, and it's at +9% today too! | 14:05 |
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| abustany | 9% is like what, 1 euro cent? | 14:09 |
| faenil | it went from 2.10 to 2.60 in 2 days...now 2.50 | 14:11 |
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| w00t | yeah | 14:18 |
| w00t | because someone said lenovo was going to buy them | 14:18 |
| w00t | but lenovo said that's a pile of crap, so time for it to plummet back down | 14:18 |
| faenil | :O srsly? | 14:19 |
| faenil | I was told it's because Elop bought a loooooot of stocks | 14:19 |
| abustany | ah, now it was lenovo? | 14:19 |
| w00t | http://www.zdnet.com/lenovo-executive-buy-nokia-lol-7000001958/ | 14:19 |
| abustany | last time was the rumor was about samsung | 14:20 |
| w00t | I'm in retrospect very glad I sold right after february 11 | 14:22 |
| alterego | lol | 14:23 |
| iekku | w00t, good boy :) | 14:23 |
| w00t | iekku: ;) | 14:24 |
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| [ol] | Can this be because Nokia is closing its manufacturing in Finland? | 14:29 |
| alterego | I think it's mainly the Microsoft deal | 14:33 |
| alterego | Nokia used to stand for innovation, now it doesn't know what it's doing. | 14:34 |
| alterego | And it can look forward to just designing the looks of a mobile device. | 14:34 |
| alterego | Which isn't something that they're that great at .. | 14:34 |
| [ol] | Now it's obvious that one malicious CEO has destroyed the company. But what I don't understand is why shareholders dont sue him for that. | 14:36 |
| sledges | hello. I just installed Nemo on VirtualBox, all shiny nice! But whenever a on-screen-keyboard should be visible, the screen goes black (bug #104). Host+F2 for virtual terminal is also black, so no way to interact with it... | 14:36 |
| sledges | for now will try to gut maliit out via mounting /dev/sda1 externally.. | 14:38 |
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| faenil | w00t, I've just tried zooming a hires image...(4k x 3k) ... can't be done :P we can't allow 100% zoom | 14:46 |
| faenil | it's very laggy | 14:46 |
| faenil | probably doesn't fit in video memory? | 14:46 |
| abustany | alterego: well, nokia devices in terms of hardware are still lightyears ahead of for example a samsung galaxy | 14:47 |
| lbt | w00t: that headline/photo pairing is hilarious | 14:56 |
| Stskeeps | sledges, host-alt-f2 | 14:57 |
| alterego | abustany: harder when the internals are defined by Microsoft. | 14:58 |
| alterego | Well, selected. | 14:58 |
| abustany | indeed | 14:58 |
| lockywolf | same thing as sledges | 15:01 |
| lockywolf | ctrl--alt-f2 works in libeiso version on VMWare | 15:02 |
| lockywolf | *liveiso | 15:02 |
| lockywolf | Hmm... | 15:02 |
| lockywolf | BuildService API error: can't verify packages due to lack of GPG keys | 15:02 |
| lockywolf | during osc build | 15:02 |
| lockywolf | what is it? | 15:03 |
| sledges | Stskeeps ( lockywolf ) , alt apparently is optional, Host+Alt+F1 switches to Nemo UI, Host+Alt+F2 (or without Alt) still switches to black screen. I am typing commands blindly now :) is there ssh running? currently NATted eth card does not even allow itself to be pinged, so i'm in progress to make it a bridged one instead | 15:03 |
| sledges | Host+[Alt]+F2 gives black screen, but apparently there -is- a live vt | 15:03 |
| lockywolf | there is | 15:04 |
| w00t | lbt: :-p | 15:04 |
| lockywolf | which version are you running? | 15:05 |
| lockywolf | from .img or from virtual drive? | 15:05 |
| lockywolf | What to do with GPG keys? | 15:05 |
| sledges | latest nemo release -vm-, renamed to .iso, installed to /dev/sda1 (using https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/index.php?title=Nemo/Testing_with_Virtualbox#i586_Virtual_Machine ), virtualbox 4.1.18 | 15:06 |
| lockywolf | skip installing | 15:06 |
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| lockywolf | if you boot it from img-siso | 15:07 |
| lockywolf | ctrl-alt-f works fine | 15:07 |
| sledges | lockywolf, yes, the non-installed version had nice vt available (how else would I have installed it visually, if I cannot use terminal due to maliit black-screen bug? :) ) | 15:07 |
| lockywolf | ztrl-alt-f2 | 15:07 |
| lockywolf | blindly? | 15:07 |
| lockywolf | :-) | 15:07 |
| sledges | why, if vt was working. stops working after installing | 15:08 |
| lockywolf | for me, too | 15:08 |
| sledges | well there we are, on the same page now :) | 15:08 |
| lockywolf | the mailing list says, it's due to lack of mesa-llvmpipe-dri-swrast-driver | 15:08 |
| lockywolf | try installing it blindly in the terminal | 15:09 |
| lockywolf | ant tell us the result :-) | 15:10 |
| lockywolf | 8and | 15:10 |
| lockywolf | *and | 15:10 |
| lockywolf | What to do with the GPG keys? | 15:10 |
| lockywolf | How can I run osc local builds? | 15:10 |
| sledges | this channel is a bit slow today (at this moment at least) :) | 15:10 |
| sledges | thank you lockywolf , rebooting in progress | 15:11 |
| sledges | lockywolf, no effect. I can confirm mesa-llvmpipe-dri... having installed successfully, just by executing blindly zypper install and pressing "Y" on keyboard, then watching relevant icons lit up at the bottom virtualbox bar :))) | 15:12 |
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| sledges | HEYYY, but the keyboard black-screen problem is gone! | 15:12 |
| lockywolf | where? | 15:12 |
| sledges | brilliant, thank you lockywolf :) I will update the bug 104 | 15:12 |
| sledges | everywhere, I launched the terminal, and I see it, it is not black screen anymore | 15:13 |
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| sledges | Host+Alt+F2 is still black, but the whole nemo UI is usable now after installing mesa-llvmpipe-dri-swrast-driver, great success ;) | 15:15 |
| sledges | lockywolf, where in the [mer-general] mailing list did you find mentioning of mesa-llvmpipe-dri-swrast-driver ? | 15:18 |
| fralik | sledges: http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg00635.html | 15:20 |
| sledges | why doesn't this find it, fralik ? : http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=mesa-llvmpipe-dri-swrast-driver&l=mer-general%40lists.merproject.org | 15:21 |
| fralik | I also have the issue with Host+Alt+F2, though it is not that critical since I am able to use terminal in UX. | 15:21 |
| sledges | yes, after the mesa-llvmpipe fix ;) | 15:21 |
| fralik | I do not know, maybe the index have not been updated yet. | 15:22 |
| lockywolf | didn't work for me | 15:22 |
| lockywolf | terminal is still black | 15:22 |
| sledges | ok, thanks fralik | 15:23 |
| fralik | one more tip: if you see black screen in terminal you can still click in the right upper conner of the terminal (where the two buttons of the terminal are) | 15:23 |
| fralik | this will bring up settings window, but you will see the terminal | 15:24 |
| sledges | which terminal lockywolf ? you need to Host+F2:root<ENTER>:nemo<ENTER>:zypper install mesa-llvmpipe-dri-swrast-driver<ENTER>y<ENTER><WAIT>sync<ENTER>reboot :) | 15:24 |
| fralik | using this technique you can use terminal slowly, but not blindly | 15:26 |
| sledges | true :) | 15:26 |
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| fralik | another option: mount your .vdi disk, chroot there and install the package from your main/host machine. :) I installed mesa-llvmpipe-... this way | 15:30 |
| lockywolf | hmm, i just connected through ssh :-) | 15:33 |
| sledges | ;D so many ways | 15:33 |
| lockywolf | but zypper in mesa-llvmpipe-dri-swrast-driver tells me: | 15:33 |
| lockywolf | target initialization failed: | 15:33 |
| sledges | *install | 15:33 |
| lockywolf | failed to chache rpm database | 15:33 |
| sledges | hmmmm | 15:34 |
| sledges | can you ping google.com ? | 15:34 |
| denism | thanks everybody! I have added mesa-llvmpipe-dri-swrast-driver to .ks file and terminal starts to work | 15:34 |
| lockywolf | yes | 15:34 |
| sledges | do you have enough space under / or /var ? | 15:34 |
| sledges | annd are you root :) | 15:34 |
| lockywolf | sure | 15:34 |
| lockywolf | :-) | 15:35 |
| sledges | ok ;) | 15:35 |
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| sledges | denism, good stuff Wish you were the official maintainer of Nemo releases :)) I think that's Sage who got married :) | 15:36 |
| denism | :) :) :) | 15:36 |
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| lockywolf | got it | 15:40 |
| lockywolf | rpm --rebuilddb | 15:40 |
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| sledges | nice, congrats lockywolf :) | 15:44 |
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| Sage | sledges, denism: nice find. Need to add that to the configs and next image. | 16:07 |
| Sage | or well, not so much to the configs but actually to the package group for x86 adaptation | 16:08 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: please hold on that | 16:09 |
| Stskeeps | it reduces perf a lot | 16:10 |
| Stskeeps | and not the right solution | 16:10 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: oh | 16:11 |
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| sledges | Sage, yes, it is only a workaround (as indicated in bug #501 ) | 16:15 |
| Stskeeps | i guess its ok to add as a temp workaround | 16:18 |
| Stskeeps | and add in warnings | 16:18 |
| Stskeeps | in doc | 16:19 |
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| special | Sage: mission-control seems broken after updating from the repository you linked on the -ring bug. | 16:35 |
| special | at the moment, it won't launch even gabble, and launching it manually gives "no conncetions, and timed out" | 16:36 |
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| Sage | special: hmmp... there might be other things missing from there. Need to update the whole telepathy stack and glib2 to test it | 16:38 |
| Venemo_N9 | w00t, do you have some time later today to help me diagnose my favourite bug? | 16:42 |
| special | Sage: could it be connman related? | 16:43 |
| w00t | Venemo_N9: if it's the compositor flicker, not really, that's probably going to take some time of digging around to figure out | 16:43 |
| Venemo_N9 | :( | 16:43 |
| Venemo_N9 | tomorrow? | 16:44 |
| w00t | I want it gone, but I have a lot of other things I need to sort out | 16:44 |
| w00t | I can't promise anything | 16:44 |
| w00t | if you want to start digging around patching mcompositor with debug, that would be a helpful start, at least | 16:44 |
| Sage | special: connman related? | 16:44 |
| w00t | I was going to wait with that until xresponse is packaged so that I don't have to do quite so much digging | 16:44 |
| Venemo_N9 | what's xresponse? | 16:45 |
| special | Sage: random guess; I was looking over mission-control debug output. It tries and fails to find connman over dbus, and later won't connect my gabble account because "mcd_kludge_transport_get_transport_status: we are allegedly offline" | 16:46 |
| w00t | Venemo_N9: http://maemo.org/development/documentation/man_pages/xresponse/ | 16:47 |
| Sage | special: oh, I didn't think telepathy cares about connman | 16:48 |
| lockywolf | where lies the source for meegotouch-controlpanel? | 16:48 |
| Venemo_N9 | w00t, I haven't a clue how that may help with this | 16:49 |
| Venemo_N9 | anyway, I think I'll take a nap | 16:49 |
| w00t | Venemo_N9: -m watches for damage events, I want to see whether the screen is redrawing in the right places | 16:49 |
| lockywolf | i didn't find it on github | 16:49 |
| Venemo_N9 | w00t, hmmm | 16:51 |
| Venemo_N9 | makes sense | 16:51 |
| * w00t => dinner | 16:51 | |
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| * Venemo_N9 'll take a nap now | 16:52 | |
| Venemo_N9 | brb | 16:52 |
| special | Sage: anyway; anything you want me to do to help? | 16:53 |
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| Sage | special: everything is possible? :D | 16:56 |
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| fralik | Sage, regarding the Nano: so the 'proper fix' will be to wait until nemo-utils will get their own OBS package? Or small patch on Gitorious right away? | 18:47 |
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| Sage | fralik: you can send patch to gitorious already. Add nano to the package and increate the version number of that specific file (see Version: in yaml) and submit. | 18:49 |
| Sage | fralik: the upcoming packages will use same sources eventually sry for confusion | 18:49 |
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| fralik | Sage, I see, no problem. Made another request on Gitorious. | 19:01 |
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| rcg1 | evening | 19:15 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5358 Rejected promotion request | 20:05 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5345 Rejected promotion request | 20:08 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5366 Accepted promotion request | 20:10 |
| Sage | w00t: accounts-ui accepted | 20:10 |
| Sage | sry for taking so long | 20:10 |
| rcg1 | btw Sage, sorry for submitting FingerTerm without checking properly whether the package already exists before | 20:15 |
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| Sage | rcg1: np. It happens :) | 20:22 |
| w00t | Sage: ta | 20:22 |
| * w00t goes to bed and hopes he feels better tomorrow | 20:22 | |
| rcg1 | :) | 20:24 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5364 Accepted promotion request | 20:26 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5376 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5376 | 23:12 |
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