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| Venemo_N9 | good morning guys | 06:40 |
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| kallaballa | good morning | 06:41 |
| Venemo_N9 | so, we've proven the concept | 06:42 |
| rantom | Morning | 06:42 |
| Venemo_N9 | I now have a working QML desktop | 06:42 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 06:43 |
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| Venemo_N9 | Stskeeps :) | 06:43 |
| timoph | any previews available? | 06:43 |
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| Venemo_N9 | timoph, some of it is available in my lipstick clone repo, but I haven't pushed the orientation change bits yet | 06:44 |
| timoph | screenshots? | 06:44 |
| timoph | video? | 06:44 |
| Venemo_N9 | sorry, it was very late when I finished yesterday | 06:45 |
| Venemo_N9 | but if you think I should, I'll make some videos when Iget home today | 06:45 |
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| timoph | cool | 07:02 |
| timoph | you might be able to score some contributions by 'advertising' the project with screenshots, etc. | 07:02 |
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| Venemo_N9 | timoph, ok, why not? :) | 07:21 |
| Venemo_N9 | brb | 07:21 |
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| Venemo_N9 | faenil, how's your bug MN | 07:34 |
| Venemo_N9 | faenil, how I'd your bug? | 07:34 |
| Venemo_N9 | meh, swype makes me cry sometimes | 07:36 |
| Venemo_N9 | w00t, yesterday I successfully implemented autorotation for lipstick | 07:40 |
| w00t | Venemo_N9: fun | 07:40 |
| Venemo_N9 | and I didn't even need to write any c++ for that | 07:40 |
| Venemo_N9 | anyway, there are still some things to be done before it's ready | 07:41 |
| Venemo_N9 | for example, I have no clue why it displays garbage on app switching | 07:42 |
| w00t | get me a video | 07:42 |
| Venemo_N9 | although that may be the issue of the swipe plugin, I'm not sure | 07:42 |
| Venemo_N9 | w00t, video will be the first thing when I get back home :) | 07:43 |
| Venemo_N9 | but when switching apps, it sometimes displays already closed windows or other windows in the background instead of the desktop | 07:44 |
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| w00t | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84 | 07:47 |
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| Venemo_N9 | w00t, so this is the same bug? | 07:49 |
| Venemo_N9 | hm. | 07:49 |
| w00t | sounds like it | 07:49 |
| Venemo_N9 | well then, I don't thinkit has anything to do with the desktop | 07:51 |
| Venemo_N9 | w00t, is it possible that the swipe plugin is responsible? | 07:52 |
| w00t | it's nothing to do with you | 07:53 |
| w00t | at least | 07:53 |
| w00t | I don't see how it can be plugin related, as the plugin has nothing to do with drawing | 07:54 |
| w00t | but I haven't had the time (or the tools) to sit down and poke at it yet | 07:54 |
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| Venemo_N9 | w00t, what kind of tools are you referring to? | 07:55 |
| Venemo_N9 | and how would you recommend starting to debug it? | 07:56 |
| w00t | I want to look at what xresponse (http://maemo.org/development/documentation/man_pages/xresponse/) has to say | 07:57 |
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| w00t | I'd also like to try expanding the animation duration in mcompositor to something exaggerated like 10 seconds to see what happens | 07:58 |
| aapo | Hi, I'm trying nemo on N900 from external sd card. I'm having that-sd-initialization-error (https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92). Is there any solution for that? If I buy new card, how I know which will work? | 07:58 |
| aapo | I have tested uboot-pr13 from extras-devel and http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/u-boot/ | 08:00 |
| Venemo_N9 | I personally have no clue about that | 08:01 |
| kimju | aapo, first thing to check: do you have the back cover of n900 in place (there is small magnet in the cover that acts as "a sd-card present"-switch) | 08:01 |
| kimju | gives similar errors if not present | 08:01 |
| aapo | kimju, I think I have. It can see Nemo kernel (which is in sd card) | 08:02 |
| kimju | bootloader doesn't check that. | 08:02 |
| aapo | ok. But I see different error when I removed back cover | 08:03 |
| Stskeeps | aapo: do you feel like learning about how to make images, branch packages and add a kernel patch? | 08:04 |
| aapo | "vfs: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block" | 08:04 |
| aapo | Stskeeps, yes. I already tested making i686 image | 08:05 |
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| Stskeeps | aapo: ok, CE:Adaptation:N900 kernel-adaptation-n900 , add patch into 'series' file and run 'make' | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | and osc addremove | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | branch that package, and then enable publishing from your repo | 08:12 |
| kallaballa | aapo: i bought a sandisk microSDHC Card, 8 GB (SDSDQM-008G-B35) and it works like a charm with my n900 and the latest nemo image | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | aapo: and then add that repo to your .ks | 08:14 |
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| faenil | good morning people :) | 08:21 |
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| faenil | w00t, still no luck with the views | 08:25 |
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| faenil | mmm could this be a bug in components/qt impl we're using? Page reports width854 height388 in Portrait mode...width480 height746 in Landscape...they really seem to be switched to me... | 09:06 |
| faenil | and it could be related to the problem I'm experiencing... | 09:06 |
| faenil | alterego, ^ any idea? | 09:06 |
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| faenil | or anyone else... | 09:11 |
| faenil | ok nothing | 09:19 |
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| alterego | faenil: that's minus status bar. | 09:31 |
| faenil | alterego, sure I meant the swapped values | 09:31 |
| alterego | 54px | 09:31 |
| faenil | width should be 854 in landscape, not in portrait | 09:32 |
| alterego | Oh, hrm .. | 09:32 |
| faenil | but it was my fault, don't bother | 09:32 |
| alterego | lol | 09:32 |
| w00t | what did you do? :-) | 09:32 |
| alterego | Probably just got his w/h variables mixed up :P | 09:32 |
| faenil | was playing with onOrientationChangeStarted, aboutToStart, Finished, and that stuff | 09:32 |
| faenil | and forgot they were in the wrong place :P | 09:32 |
| faenil | so I was reading portrait values in landscape mode | 09:33 |
| faenil | and viceversa | 09:33 |
| faenil | anyway, this freaking bug is driving me crazy | 09:33 |
| faenil | I'm also forcing the listview to display the index I want it to | 09:33 |
| faenil | but you can still see the flickering of the wrong image it autoselects in the background | 09:34 |
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| faenil | I just don't want it to do its freaking computations, because it doesn't know how to handle rotation! screw that... argh | 09:34 |
| faenil | XD | 09:35 |
| faenil | it's got its fixup method which causes problems... | 09:35 |
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| faenil | I'll try one more time, again with GridView this time, and then I will be needing ideas guys :P | 09:36 |
| w00t | keep what special said in mind about custom view/positioning being an option | 09:39 |
| faenil | w00t, yeah, that's the other option... | 09:40 |
| faenil | I really couldn't think qml didn't offer anything for this use case.. | 09:41 |
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| faenil | it is also strange that the problem only shows when going from landscape to portrait, and not viceversa... | 09:43 |
| faenil | and whyyy would SnapMode be the cause of such problem...I can't just leave it there...I want to understand :) | 09:45 |
| * faenil digging into qdeclarativelist.cpp looking for a treasure | 09:46 | |
| faenil | w00t, do you know any listview expert I could ask? | 09:49 |
| w00t | not really, no | 09:49 |
| faenil | ok...I'll try understand all the math tricks they do in there | 09:50 |
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| faenil | if anyone feels like having fun, http://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qt/blobs/4.8/src/declarative/graphicsitems/qdeclarativelistview.cpp#line1305 | 09:54 |
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| faenil | w00t, give this a look please,http://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qt/blobs/4.8/src/declarative/graphicsitems/qdeclarativelistview.cpp#line2861 | 10:08 |
| faenil | am I wrong or that could be THE line? | 10:09 |
| w00t | I very much doubt that your listview is set in right to left mode | 10:12 |
| faenil | holy crap, am I blind or what | 10:13 |
| w00t | it happens :-p | 10:13 |
| faenil | :) | 10:14 |
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| faenil | so, I got disconnected with no notice... | 10:31 |
| faenil | I had to read it from the chat log! :D | 10:31 |
| Stskeeps | welcome to the internet | 10:31 |
| faenil | xD | 10:32 |
| jukkaeklund | so when is the next nemo release coming? | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | good question | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | did we release the tear-less n9 version yet? | 10:33 |
| faenil | jukkaeklund, welcome back ^^ | 10:35 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, if 02-07 is the latest version, then no, that one has tearing on | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:37 |
| faenil | it also has first version gallery, old wifi panel, ecc | 10:38 |
| jukkaeklund | sounds like a full release is in order | 10:39 |
| jukkaeklund | btw, I tried zypper update from may or june and it just died | 10:40 |
| faenil | like what? | 10:40 |
| jukkaeklund | not booting anymore | 10:40 |
| faenil | ouch | 10:40 |
| jukkaeklund | need to write latest release and try zypper then | 10:40 |
| faenil | mine turned black, had to shut it off with the long press | 10:41 |
| jukkaeklund | that tearing fix is easy to do in terminal | 10:41 |
| faenil | but I was on latest release | 10:41 |
| faenil | yeah it is | 10:41 |
| jukkaeklund | nice to see many bugs I wrote in spring getting fixed :) | 10:42 |
| jukkaeklund | need to do another round of bug writing.. | 10:42 |
| faenil | :) | 10:42 |
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| faenil | <faenil> thatbloke, long story short, it works if I don't set SnapMode | 10:52 |
| faenil | <thatbloke> don't use snapMode then? | 10:53 |
| faenil | w00t, ^^ | 10:53 |
| faenil | fair enough, lol | 10:53 |
| w00t | lol. | 10:53 |
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| faenil | w00t, oh look at what we have here https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-21758 | 11:00 |
| faenil | special, ^ | 11:02 |
| faenil | and here it seems it still affects Qt5 https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-25528 | 11:05 |
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| phaeron | rzr: file:///opt/redak/qml/redak/meego/main.qml:88:5: Type BrowsePage unavailable ... | 11:24 |
| phaeron | file:///opt/redak/qml/redak/meego/BrowsePage.qml:6:1: module "Qt.labs.folderlistmodel" is not installed ... | 11:24 |
| phaeron | rzr: package missing dep ? | 11:24 |
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| phaeron | rzr: missing dep on libqtdeclarative4-folderlistmodel it seems | 11:46 |
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| bennypr0fane | Hello, I'm having problems booting Nemo on N900 from SDcard. Actually, I only just succeded booting it, but not as described in the Wiki. | 12:19 |
| bennypr0fane | In the wiki, it says to install U-Boot and if SDcard with Nemo image is present, powering on N900 should boot nemo | 12:20 |
| bennypr0fane | On my current setup though, Maemo is booted from nand | 12:20 |
| bennypr0fane | to boot Nemo, I had to 1. power on with keyboard open 2. enter U-Boot console 3. run sdboot to boot from sdcard. However, my current setup is according to instructions in Nemo wiki, except I have Maemo stock kernel and power Kernel 51 in U-Boot boot menu, maybe there affects boot process to not automatically read from sdcard | 12:23 |
| bennypr0fane | Anyway, just giving you a heads up that maybe the N900 section of the Wiki needs to be updated, possibly because U-Boot has undergone changes. | 12:24 |
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| dm8tbr | bennypr0fane: sounds like you have a uboot+kernelpower combination installed. that may behave differently. the instructions are for regular uboot | 12:42 |
| bennypr0fane | yes, I think that must be it | 12:43 |
| bennypr0fane | the regular uboot does not get along with kernel power | 12:43 |
| bennypr0fane | Pali made a different uboot for that, and a kernel bootimg, which is what I have right now | 12:44 |
| bennypr0fane | maybe I would be a good idea to add instructions for the Pali-Uboot used by users with kernelpower | 12:45 |
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| bennypr0fane | I guess that many N900 users have one or the version of kp installed, which means if they want to test Nemo, they either have to lose the power kernel or use the newer uboot | 12:46 |
| bennypr0fane | would it be a good idea to make a quick note to whoever takes care of the wiki? | 12:47 |
| dm8tbr | feel free to add notes for those users somewhere | 12:47 |
| dm8tbr | it's a wiki | 12:47 |
| bennypr0fane | you mean in the wiki? | 12:47 |
| bennypr0fane | well I thought that was only open to Nemo developers | 12:47 |
| bennypr0fane | I'm not one | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | it's open to everybody, just make a bugs.merproject.org account | 12:48 |
| bennypr0fane | It looks very cleanly and all, and I haven't seen changes ther in months | 12:48 |
| bennypr0fane | so I figured they wouldn't want just anyone to mess with their stuff :-) | 12:48 |
| Stskeeps | wiki.merproject.org has a lot of changes.. :P | 12:48 |
| Stskeeps | Nemo is fairly stable though | 12:49 |
| Stskeeps | feel free to edit and help out | 12:49 |
| bennypr0fane | I know | 12:49 |
| bennypr0fane | just stuff missing, but not unstable | 12:49 |
| Stskeeps | yep | 12:49 |
| bennypr0fane | right now, I can't get the wifi up though | 12:49 |
| Stskeeps | what image do you use? | 12:50 |
| bennypr0fane | from 02.07. | 12:50 |
| bennypr0fane | on sdcard | 12:50 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 12:50 |
| Stskeeps | soon there'll be a new image that solves a lot of issues | 12:50 |
| bennypr0fane | I see. Will have to update via 3G then... | 12:51 |
| * w00t wonders when our next release is | 12:52 | |
| w00t | would be nice to have messaging included in it, I think | 12:52 |
| bennypr0fane | I don't need to update by remounting the newer image, do I? just zypper up will suffice? | 12:53 |
| Stskeeps | we try to have that working but it doesn't always work | 12:53 |
| Stskeeps | as there's cases we don't catch manually | 12:53 |
| w00t | (if they happen, please beat people) | 12:54 |
| bennypr0fane | is it more reliable with the packages application? | 12:54 |
| bennypr0fane | is there a way to unlock the screen on N900 other than with power button? | 12:58 |
| w00t | by 'unlock' you mean 'turn on', or what? | 13:02 |
| bennypr0fane | yes | 13:02 |
| w00t | not that I know of | 13:02 |
| bennypr0fane | when it's off, black. To turn it back on, I need to press power button and then swipe the little lock icon into the box | 13:03 |
| bennypr0fane | I was wondering if there's another method | 13:03 |
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| w00t | Sage: so when's next release? | 13:11 |
| alterego | w00t: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=declarative-barcode-reader-plugin&project=home%3Atswindell%3ACE%3AApps | 13:11 |
| alterego | w00t: maybe integrate that in to contacts? :) | 13:11 |
| w00t | Project not found: "homeAtswindellACEAApps" | 13:12 |
| alterego | w00t: actually this is better: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=qrencode-declarative-plugin&project=home%3Atswindell%3ACE%3AApps | 13:12 |
| w00t | yeah, that one works :) | 13:12 |
| w00t | what is it? | 13:12 |
| alterego | It's a QRCode generator. | 13:12 |
| alterego | Well, you set data to what you want to encode, and it's a declarative item that represents the data as a QRCode | 13:13 |
| Sage | w00t: zypper up works so use that ;) | 13:13 |
| w00t | Sage: more wondering for everyone not me ;) | 13:13 |
| w00t | and deadlines for integration and such | 13:14 |
| w00t | alterego: fun.. could quite well go in nemo-qml-plugins I guess :) | 13:14 |
| alterego | Yeah, I think that might be good. | 13:14 |
| alterego | It still requires "qrencode" though :P | 13:14 |
| alterego | But would be nice to have this stuff kind of available and integrated. | 13:15 |
| alterego | w00t: there's also a companion, zbar based reader declarative plugin I did, so we can read & write them :) | 13:18 |
| w00t | alterego: i agree | 13:18 |
| alterego | w00t: also, the declarative item as a "save" method :) So you can save it, at any specified size. :) | 13:19 |
| alterego | And you can change the foreground/background colors :) | 13:19 |
| alterego | https://gitorious.org/project-grande/qrencoder-declarative-plugin/blobs/master/src/qrcodeitem.h :) | 13:19 |
| alterego | w00t: should I look in to getting it put into nemo-qml-plugins? | 13:33 |
| alterego | w00t: but it will add zbar and qrencode dependencies to that package. | 13:33 |
| w00t | alterego: yeah, sure, file a pull request and we'll take a look | 13:33 |
| w00t | alterego: provided they offer .pc files (which they should), we can make them optional dependencies (and just make sure we build with them in nemo) | 13:33 |
| w00t | I'm fine with that | 13:33 |
| alterego | m'kay | 13:34 |
| w00t | the trick there: | 13:34 |
| w00t | CONFIG += link_pkgconfig, packagesExist(pc-file-name-here) { PKGCONFIG += pc-file-name-here } else { warning("dependency foo missing") } | 13:35 |
| alterego | Doesn't look like zbar has pkgconfig, but qrencode does. | 13:36 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5345 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5345 | 13:37 |
| alterego | Well, I sent an SR for qrencode to CE:Apps, ^ | 13:37 |
| alterego | I'll look at at least putting the qrencode plugin in to nemo qml plugins | 13:37 |
| w00t | are you sure? googling zbar pkg-config gets a lot of hits | 13:37 |
| alterego | And then I'll investigate the zbar issue a bit later. | 13:37 |
| alterego | Yeah, but it probably wont even work :P | 13:38 |
| alterego | So I need to clean that up a bit. | 13:38 |
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| alterego | w00t: what obs project is nemo-qml-plugins in ? | 13:41 |
| w00t | CE:MW:Shared, iirc | 13:42 |
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| * w00t has Messages running on nemo | 13:46 | |
| faenil | w00t, \o/ | 13:47 |
| Sage | w00t: nice | 13:48 |
| alterego | Cooo | 13:48 |
| Sage | anyone debugged telepathy? Mainly wondering if there is some log file to enable where one could see errors that happen? | 13:49 |
| w00t | Sage: what sort of thing are you after | 13:50 |
| Sage | I have rakia/sofia-sip packaged and I would like to test if it can go online | 13:53 |
| w00t | mc-tool is what you'll need to use to add the account and try bring it online | 13:53 |
| w00t | http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/Debugging is useful too | 13:53 |
| Sage | w00t: I tried also on my f17 but also there getting error that network not setup properly | 13:53 |
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| Sage | w00t: yes, but http://pastie.org/4359268 | 13:55 |
| w00t | FOO isn't really meant to be FOO ;) | 13:55 |
| w00t | e.g. you probably want RAKIA_DEBUG=all RAKIA_PERSIST=1 | 13:55 |
| Sage | pah :) | 13:55 |
| alterego | w00t: should I add a new SubPackage? | 13:56 |
| w00t | alterego: yeah | 13:56 |
| w00t | one .so/package per functionality | 13:56 |
| Sage | w00t: well doesn't quit but nothing is printed | 13:56 |
| alterego | Ah, so why don't you have one for contacts? | 13:56 |
| alterego | Or is that not in mer yet? | 13:56 |
| alterego | s/mer/nemo | 13:57 |
| w00t | alterego: it's in git, and my home:, but not submitted yet | 13:57 |
| w00t | doing testing on it today, will submit it tonight | 13:58 |
| Sage | w00t: http://pastie.org/4359368 | 13:58 |
| alterego | Hrm, I should probably forget that then ;) | 13:58 |
| alterego | Editing the .yaml file. | 13:58 |
| w00t | Sage: hrm. | 14:01 |
| w00t | ironically i'm having similar problems, atm ;) | 14:01 |
| w00t | ah, there we go. got online on gtalk, I think.. | 14:02 |
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| alterego | w00t: where are you stashing your packaging files? | 14:05 |
| alterego | Or is it just in obs? | 14:05 |
| w00t | if i committed, cobs, if i didn't, my SDK checkout | 14:06 |
| alterego | m'kay | 14:06 |
| alterego | w00t: what build depends did you add for contacts? | 14:09 |
| w00t | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=nemo-qml-plugins&project=home%3Aw00t%3Abranches%3ACE%3AMW%3AShared | 14:11 |
| alterego | Hopefully QtContacts .. | 14:11 |
| alterego | Ah, I'll increment to 0.04 then ;) | 14:11 |
| alterego | 0.0.4 :P | 14:11 |
| w00t | version numbers are based off git tags | 14:12 |
| alterego | Okay, I'll leave that, I'm going to send an SR to your project and I'll send a pull request on github. | 14:12 |
| alterego | Well, I'll send the SR, if you like the pull request. | 14:13 |
| w00t | sounds good | 14:14 |
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| alterego | w00t: PR sent https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugins/pull/1 | 14:23 |
| w00t | alterego: will look in a bit, catching up on a forgotten lunch | 14:28 |
| alterego | Okay | 14:32 |
| * alterego showers | 14:32 | |
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| mike7b4athome | trying play with nemomobile on my N9, but still no succes. When pressing volumedown N9 just turns off? And when I turn it on manually it boots harmattan? Any hint what can be wrong? | 14:35 |
| w00t | mmm, what instructions are you following? | 14:41 |
| mike7b4athome | w00t, Single Boot by Loading The Kernel | 14:45 |
| mike7b4athome | in: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing | 14:46 |
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| * w00t wonders who knows about n9 boots.. | 14:50 | |
| alterego | w00t: sorry, buggered that .pro up :P | 14:52 |
| w00t | can you remove the CONFIG += ordered too? (just noticed that) | 14:53 |
| w00t | that will prevent make from parallelizing examples/src there | 14:54 |
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| alterego | okay, done that. | 14:55 |
| alterego | Hurp, I thought it was LGPL already. | 14:58 |
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| alterego | w00t: updated | 15:10 |
| w00t | looking better | 15:13 |
| alterego | Updated again :P | 15:13 |
| w00t | I think that's all my comments now (sorry) :P | 15:14 |
| alterego | With that last one about guarding. | 15:14 |
| alterego | Doesn't it make more sense just not building it if the dependency isn't found? | 15:14 |
| w00t | no, because then apps that might (optionally) use this become unusable because the import will be missing | 15:15 |
| alterego | hmm | 15:16 |
| w00t | e.g. if I include a QR code in the contact card, the entire contact card won't load because of the missing import | 15:16 |
| w00t | (yes, QML kind of sucks at this thing, I'm just trying to make the best of a bad situation) | 15:16 |
| alterego | Would it be okay if I just encapsulated the entire plugins slots in the ifdef ;) | 15:20 |
| alterego | It'll load but wont do anything :) | 15:20 |
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| rantom | Was there a new release of Nemo Mobile today? | 15:21 |
| rantom | The Twitter-feed gave that impression for me | 15:22 |
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| alterego | w00t: updated | 15:28 |
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| w00t | alterego: yes, that's fine | 15:31 |
| w00t | (re: ifdef basically everything) | 15:31 |
| w00t | will check soon | 15:31 |
| alterego | Well, I minimalized it :) | 15:32 |
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| * faenil snapping his way through modes...lol | 15:43 | |
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| Guest64323 | what's up, guys? i was wondering - is there any cooperation between nemo and jolla? | 15:54 |
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| alterego | Guest14005: yes, Jolla will be using things we use in Nemo. | 16:08 |
| alterego | And they are helping to improve those shared parts. | 16:08 |
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| Stskeeps | dick-van-dyke: Jolla uses bits and pieces from Nemo and contributes to it, but Nemo does not reflect what Jolla UI contains | 16:10 |
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| faenil | about to go to a wedding...cya tomorrow people :) | 16:23 |
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| dick-van-dyke_ | Stskeeps, I wouldn't expect the two to be so narrowly connected. i just like to see as little fragmentation as possible :) | 16:23 |
| Stskeeps | dick-van-dyke_: :nod: | 16:23 |
| dick-van-dyke_ | faenil, enjoy the wedding | 16:24 |
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| faenil | w00t, my custom snap mode works better than Qt's imho :D | 16:29 |
| alterego | w00t: what's the pkgconfig for libqtsparql and libqtsparql-tracker ? | 16:29 |
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| w00t | faenil: custom how? | 16:30 |
| w00t | alterego: not sure, rpm -ql | grep .pc on the -devel packages? | 16:30 |
| faenil | w00t, I'm using Flickable + Row now, so there was no snapmode :) | 16:30 |
| dick-van-dyke | one more question, if i may - does the current version of nemo place calls on the n9? | 16:30 |
| alterego | dick-van-dyke: sort of ;) | 16:31 |
| alterego | It makes and receives calls, but we're having issues with audio at the moment. | 16:31 |
| radiofree | w00t: what version of qtsparql? | 16:31 |
| dick-van-dyke | alterego, issues with what, pulseaudio? | 16:32 |
| radiofree | I can't remember exactly when, but the pkgconfig stuff was only fixed by later 0.0.x versions... | 16:32 |
| alterego | dick-van-dyke: yes, it's dying after reboot | 16:32 |
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| radiofree | w00t: also, the only package that will provide pkgconfig entry will be libqtsparql-dev | 16:38 |
| w00t | radiofree: -devel | 16:38 |
| w00t | which is, coincidentally, what I said ;) | 16:38 |
| radiofree | ah, sorry, was replying to the wrong person | 16:39 |
| radiofree | also (again depending on the version), i would hope you're not using libqtsparql-tracker over the tracker-direct, unless you're doing lots of inserts! | 16:40 |
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| radiofree | alterego: ^ | 16:41 |
| w00t | we don't use -direct yet, but there's a bug for that | 16:41 |
| * alterego has no idea | 16:41 | |
| w00t | I'm fairly sure that's a matter of a wrong dependency somewhere | 16:41 |
| alterego | I'm just trying to build a package :P | 16:41 |
| w00t | I just haven't had time to look.. | 16:41 |
| radiofree | generally the direct driver is much better | 16:42 |
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| dick-van-dyke_ | alterego, bummer. i'd like to help, but that's a tad too low level for me :( | 16:43 |
| alterego | dick-van-dyke_: we'll get it fixed soon :) | 16:44 |
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| Venemo_N9 | good afternoon everyone :) | 17:12 |
| w00t | hi Venemo_N9 | 17:12 |
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| alterego | w00t: error: 'PreferNicknameKey' is not a member of 'QctSettings' | 17:18 |
| alterego | Seen that before? | 17:18 |
| alterego | I'm guessing something has changed .. | 17:18 |
| w00t | what are you doing? | 17:18 |
| alterego | Attempting to build libcommhistory | 17:18 |
| alterego | That's in qtcontacts-tracker, but probably not anymore. | 17:19 |
| w00t | it is | 17:19 |
| w00t | it's probably not in our qtcontacts-tracker | 17:19 |
| alterego | Oh | 17:19 |
| w00t | which is probably out of date | 17:19 |
| * alterego sighs | 17:19 | |
| alterego | Should I update it? | 17:19 |
| w00t | Aard: was it you who said you were investigating that? | 17:20 |
| Aard | jb#1791 and children | 17:22 |
| Venemo_N9 | hey w00t & alterego :) | 17:22 |
| alterego | Hi Venemo_N9 :) | 17:22 |
| Venemo_N9 | what's up? | 17:22 |
| Aard | and jb#1794 and children | 17:22 |
| alterego | What should I do then? | 17:23 |
| Aard | alterego: looks like all your remaining tasks depend on commhistory? | 17:25 |
| Aard | alterego: if so, go for updating qtcontacts-tracker | 17:29 |
| Venemo_N9 | next up is fixing some minor issues that remained in lipstick | 17:29 |
| alterego | Okay | 17:30 |
| Venemo_N9 | did you know it actually looks cool now? | 17:30 |
| alterego | :P | 17:30 |
| alterego | Are you mocking my QML Venemo_N9 :P | 17:31 |
| Venemo_N9 | alterego, I wasn't referring to your QML | 17:31 |
| Venemo_N9 | the structure remains the same, but it feels nicer :) | 17:32 |
| alterego | got any videos? :P | 17:34 |
| Venemo_N9 | I'll make one when I get home :) | 17:35 |
| alterego | coooool | 17:35 |
| w00t | yes, please do | 17:35 |
| Venemo_N9 | :) | 17:37 |
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| Venemo_N9 | brb | 17:44 |
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| alterego | cubi 0.1.17... not found | 17:58 |
| alterego | Old libcubi .. | 17:58 |
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| Venemo | hey! | 18:27 |
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| Venemo | how can I adjust the lockscreen timeout on Nemo? | 18:30 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5348 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5348 | 18:42 |
| Sage | Venemo: the setting for that doesn't work atm. feel free to file bug if there isn't one | 18:50 |
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| Venemo | Sage, I'm okay with setting a gconf key manually or anything like that, if possible | 18:52 |
| Sage | well, there is key for that but I think that it doesn't work. Check gconftool-2 -R /system/osso/dsm/display | 18:57 |
| Venemo | ok, thanks | 18:58 |
| Venemo | I'll try | 18:58 |
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| mallat | Hello all | 19:14 |
| Venemo | hi | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | hello mallat, cool work on exif parser | 19:14 |
| mallat | Thanks! | 19:14 |
| mallat | I'm wondering why virtualbox seems to be unusably slow on my desktop pc. It is an old AMD, but still... can't really run anything on it. | 19:15 |
| mallat | Does anyone know if virtualbox has any AMD-specific issues? | 19:16 |
| Venemo | is it possible that your CPU doesn't support hardware virtualization? | 19:16 |
| mallat | Perhaps... I haven't checked that yet | 19:18 |
| Venemo | if that is the case, it's unlikely to improve. but maybe someone else here can suggest something useful. | 19:19 |
| mallat | My cpu is Athlon 64 x2 which should support it according to wikipedia | 19:20 |
| beford | make sure its enabled on the BIOS | 19:20 |
| mallat | ah, good point | 19:21 |
| beford | most manufacterers ship it disabled | 19:21 |
| Stskeeps | mallat: the problem might be SSSE3 related :/ | 19:21 |
| Stskeeps | please make a bug that we should provide x86 virtual machines too | 19:21 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps, any chance of getting doube tap to wake up on Mer/Nemo? | 19:22 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: hm, i'm not sure where the handling is done | 19:23 |
| Stskeeps | but i think new mce should support it | 19:23 |
| Venemo | :) | 19:24 |
| Venemo | so, anyone who wants to peak at the updated lipstick but is too lazy to compile: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zg0NvSaXmY | 19:26 |
| Venemo | it now has a working status bar and automatic rotation | 19:28 |
| Venemo | and it's cool | 19:28 |
| w00t | Venemo: nice! | 19:33 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: good work :) | 19:33 |
| Venemo | thanks w00t & Stskeeps :) | 19:33 |
| alterego | Yeah, looks good Venemo :) | 19:33 |
| Venemo | there is still work needed | 19:35 |
| Venemo | :) | 19:35 |
| Venemo | but anyway, it's a good start indeed | 19:35 |
| Venemo | and what a surprise, I've already hit a known mcompositor bug - qt-components apps rotate back to portrait when they go to the task switcher. | 19:36 |
| alterego | Yeah, I hate that. | 19:37 |
| alterego | It's even broken in Harmattan. | 19:37 |
| Venemo | indeed. | 19:37 |
| Venemo | interestingly, the settings app rotates back to landscape when it goes to the task switcher | 19:38 |
| alterego | lol | 19:38 |
| w00t | that's technically not a bug, well, I'd consider it one | 19:39 |
| w00t | but they actually wrote code to force that | 19:40 |
| Venemo | lol :D | 19:40 |
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| w00t | we should probably patch it out.. | 19:42 |
| w00t | as it is quite annoying even on an n9 | 19:43 |
| Venemo | well, I'd rather it was replaced with a QML-based alternative, like the rest of the remaining MTF crap. | 19:43 |
| Sazpaimon | curious, is the moslo kernel capable of booting nemo | 19:44 |
| w00t | I was talking about qt-components | 19:44 |
| Sazpaimon | or is it missing a bunch of config settings that nemo needs | 19:44 |
| Venemo | w00t, ah, yeah. | 19:44 |
| Venemo | w00t, agreed on that. | 19:44 |
| mallat | Heh, my mini-itx multimedia box (with Intel core i5) runs virtualbox much better than my desktop. Whatever works I guess | 19:45 |
| Venemo | mallat, interesting. | 19:45 |
| w00t | mallat: hardware virtualisation is turned on? | 19:46 |
| * w00t had a sony laptop that had disabled VT, and it made a world of difference enabling that... | 19:46 | |
| mallat | it should be on on the desktop, at least kvm module doesn't complain on loading | 19:47 |
| mallat | well, I'll double check the bios anyway on next boot | 19:47 |
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| mike7b4athome | hmm, qemu is dogslow on my miniitx, maybe I should check my bios too.... | 19:48 |
| w00t | Venemo: so, when are you going to replace meegotouch-home? ;-) | 19:48 |
| mallat | time to zzz, bye for now | 19:49 |
| alterego | Soon, hopefully :) | 19:49 |
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| Sazpaimon | so anyone know? how does moslo differ from the nemo kernel? | 19:51 |
| Sazpaimon | (if at all) | 19:51 |
| alterego | w00t: error: 'FieldExtendedAddress' is not a member of 'QtMobility::QContactAddress' | 19:51 |
| alterego | >_< | 19:52 |
| alterego | I'm going to have a fit in a minute .. | 19:52 |
| w00t | uhh | 19:52 |
| w00t | that may need a patch | 19:52 |
| * w00t looks | 19:52 | |
| alterego | I've already had to modify the sources, | 19:52 |
| special | is that for libcommhistory? | 19:52 |
| w00t | yeah, that will need a patch one of two ways | 19:53 |
| w00t | either we re-revert this for Mer: | 19:53 |
| alterego | special: don't even mention that name in my company anymore :P | 19:53 |
| w00t | http://qt.gitorious.org/qt-mobility/contacts/commit/cc06a8abc7266b46779a8da510006e8b9f7e6326/diffs | 19:53 |
| alterego | Along with pulseaudio | 19:53 |
| w00t | or we remove the use of FieldExtendedAddress | 19:53 |
| Sage | Sazpaimon: see https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=moslo&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3ACE%3AAdaptation%3AN950-N9 | 19:53 |
| Venemo | w00t, I'm working on that :) | 19:54 |
| w00t | alterego: I'd go with "patch out the use of FieldExtendedAddress" for now | 19:54 |
| w00t | file a bug, though | 19:54 |
| w00t | because we may want to revisit it | 19:54 |
| Sazpaimon | Sage, urgh, you're gonna make me work aren't you | 19:54 |
| Sazpaimon | ;) | 19:54 |
| alterego | file a bug where? | 19:54 |
| w00t | alterego: mer, qt-mobility | 19:54 |
| Sage | Sazpaimon: well, I don't have time to do everything ;) | 19:54 |
| w00t | mention what package you patched it out of | 19:54 |
| alterego | kay | 19:54 |
| w00t | and what I said above about re-reverting that sha | 19:55 |
| alterego | This stuff is killing my boner .. | 19:57 |
| Sage | hmmp... I think we need to say in front page of nemo bugzilla please update your image before reporting bugs ;) | 19:57 |
| w00t | Sage: heheh... is that the one i just commented on? | 19:57 |
| w00t | (281) | 19:57 |
| Sazpaimon | Sage, there doesn't appear to be a kernel here | 19:58 |
| Venemo | w00t, you know, I could replace meegotouchhome right now, but I don't think that this alone would make a difference. | 19:58 |
| w00t | Venemo: the way we work here is in small iterations | 19:58 |
| w00t | if it's usable now, then go for it :) | 19:59 |
| Venemo | w00t, yes, and I agree with small iterations | 19:59 |
| w00t | and it looks quite usable | 19:59 |
| Venemo | I think it already beats the meegotouchhome that was in Nemo | 19:59 |
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| Sage | Sazpaimon: check BuildRequires ;) | 20:00 |
| w00t | Venemo: i'm biased, but i think so too ;) | 20:00 |
| alterego | w00t: I'm getting a head ache .. | 20:01 |
| w00t | Venemo: how's resource consumption compare? | 20:01 |
| w00t | (run free -m without it started, start it, run free -m after) | 20:01 |
| w00t | alterego: eheh... what now? | 20:01 |
| alterego | Same thing really, just loads of other "not a member of" errors :/ | 20:01 |
| w00t | which member? | 20:01 |
| alterego | error: 'gender_other' is not a member of 'Cubi::Resources::nco' | 20:02 |
| Venemo | w00t, I'm not competent to compare them | 20:02 |
| alterego | gender_other, it's like a bad joke. | 20:02 |
| w00t | alterego: you need to update cubi as well | 20:02 |
| w00t | (cubi is a dependency of qtcontacts-tracker) | 20:02 |
| w00t | there's two packages to it, afair | 20:02 |
| w00t | yeah.. | 20:03 |
| w00t | http://gitorious.org/cubi is the source for both | 20:03 |
| alterego | w00t: I've already updated cubi, it's the latest version | 20:06 |
| w00t | and the ontologies? | 20:06 |
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| * w00t watches osc vomit a traceback all over the commandline | 20:22 | |
| w00t | pretty! | 20:22 |
| w00t | Sage: do you want to look at the initial qmlmessages submission? | 20:24 |
| special | :> | 20:24 |
| * w00t is also hacking up a quick and horrible "frontend" to mc-tool | 20:28 | |
| w00t | for test purposes | 20:28 |
| alterego | w00t: should I just update QtContacts to include the extended address? | 20:44 |
| alterego | This is all so f'ing messy -_- | 20:44 |
| w00t | alterego: you'll be blocked a very long time if you do that | 20:45 |
| w00t | I'm still waiting for my qtcontacts update to get reviewed | 20:45 |
| w00t | (+ into mer) | 20:45 |
| alterego | hurp | 20:45 |
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| mike7b4athome | any quick guide howto port harmattan app to nemo? Escpecially RPM packaging? | 20:58 |
| Venemo | mike7b4athome, what toolkit do you use in your app? | 21:04 |
| mike7b4athome | Qt | 21:05 |
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| Venemo | mike7b4athome, obviously. | 21:08 |
| Venemo | mike7b4athome, I meant, is it a QML app (qt-components) or MTF, or something else? | 21:09 |
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| mike7b4athome | Its, qt-components. So I just want to create an RPM for it. | 21:10 |
| Venemo | I see. | 21:10 |
| Venemo | I can point you to some articles that help and then feel free to ask the guys here to fill in the blanks | 21:11 |
| Venemo | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/A_Short_RPM_Tutorial | 21:11 |
| Venemo | and a not so short one: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_an_RPM_package | 21:11 |
| Venemo | the first one explains quite nicely how RPM packaging basics work | 21:12 |
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| mike7b4athome | Venemo, great | 21:12 |
| Venemo | then if you like, you should get yourself familiarized with OBS (the build system behind Mer's repos) | 21:13 |
| mike7b4athome | Venemo, I have to check that also ASAP :) | 21:13 |
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| Venemo | I'm not yet proficient with the OBS myself, but there are other people here who can help :) | 21:14 |
| mike7b4athome | yep :) | 21:14 |
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| alterego | w00t: why doesn't libcubi have a .so O_O | 21:30 |
| w00t | it does | 21:30 |
| w00t | [root@localhost nemo]# rpm -ql libcubi | 21:31 |
| w00t | /usr/lib/libcubi-0.1.so.0 | 21:31 |
| w00t | /usr/lib/libcubi-0.1.so.0.114.0 | 21:31 |
| alterego | Sorry, I meant libcubi-tracker-ontologies | 21:31 |
| alterego | It's created a .pc with: Libs: -L${libdir} -lcubi-0.1-tracker-0.10-ontologies | 21:31 |
| alterego | and the lib doesn't exist. | 21:31 |
| w00t | the .pc is a lie | 21:32 |
| alterego | ffs, does it just need the headers? | 21:32 |
| w00t | afair that package is just a set of compiled headers generated with the ontology parser | 21:32 |
| alterego | ffs. | 21:32 |
| phaeron | damn lies | 21:32 |
| phaeron | :D | 21:32 |
| special | alterego: remind me to buy you a drink; I'm glad you're suffering so I don't have to. | 21:32 |
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| alterego | special: just send my family some flowers when I eventually lose all will to live and top myself :P | 21:33 |
| alterego | Ah shit, that felt like it was in bad taste. | 21:33 |
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| * alterego waits for libcubi to build, for the 100th time. | 21:36 | |
| alterego | So I can then attempt to build qtcontacts-tracker, for the 101th time :) | 21:36 |
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