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iekku | morning | 03:36 |
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rantom | Morning, iekku | 05:48 |
rantom | And in general: morning | 05:48 |
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rantom | I didn't manage to remove modified moslo yesterday, for reasons unknown. | 07:06 |
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Sage_ | hi, anyone here with n950 (with sim card) and Nemo installed and would like to try ofono update with it? | 08:04 |
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rantom | Darn. I'd have the N950 and SIM-card but I have no money in my prepaid-card | 08:21 |
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rantom | I could though ask my operator to re-activate my dual-SIM... | 08:27 |
rantom | Err, they don't provide that service anymore.. | 08:32 |
rantom | Sage_: What kind of an update would it be, that needs testing? | 08:35 |
rantom | It'll cost me approximately 10 euros, if I restart my prepaid-card | 08:35 |
rantom | (Not going to ask that money back) | 08:35 |
Sage_ | rantom: no panic :) | 08:36 |
Sage_ | you can actually test a bit without sim as well. | 08:36 |
rantom | Oh, ok | 08:36 |
Sage_ | install ofono and ofono-tests from http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/sage:/branches:/Mer:/fake:/Core:/armv7hl/Mer_Core_armv7hl/armv7hl/ | 08:36 |
Sage_ | after installing "systemctl start ofono.service" (if ofonod not running after update) then /usr/lib/ofono/test/list-modems | 08:36 |
rantom | Alright, I'll try | 08:37 |
Sage_ | for me N950 responded at first but then stopped working, and N9 works fine | 08:37 |
rantom | Might take a moment since I had forgotten to re-install Nemo | 08:37 |
Sage_ | so pondering if my n950 is broken | 08:37 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: what PR do you have on it_ | 08:37 |
Stskeeps | ? | 08:37 |
Sage_ | 1.1 or 1.2 | 08:40 |
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Sage_ | rantom: I got already confirmation from one other that for him it works. :/ | 08:40 |
* Sage_ checks the pr version | 08:42 | |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: do you think that there might be difference in modem firmware or something between pr versions? | 08:42 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: yes | 08:42 |
Stskeeps | i know before 1.2 it was crap | 08:42 |
rantom | Sage_: Ah, ok | 08:43 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: oh... | 08:43 |
rantom | So I'm not needed? :P | 08:43 |
Sage_ | rantom: if you don't want to no :) | 08:43 |
rantom | Ok | 08:43 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: pr 1.1 :) | 08:43 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: worth a shot | 08:43 |
Sage_ | 1.3 is it ok? | 08:44 |
Stskeeps | pr1.2 is only one existing on n950 atm i think | 08:44 |
Sage_ | oh | 08:45 |
Sage_ | haven't checked in a whlie | 08:45 |
rantom | Hmm, I might've found a bug in Wifi | 08:46 |
rantom | I can't' seem to find a button to create a new network | 08:46 |
rantom | My network is hidden so from what I see now I can't connect to it | 08:47 |
rantom | Yeap, can't connect. I got the "Hello world" bug now | 08:48 |
rantom | Sage_: Can't help at the moment, sorry. I could SSH but it's a pain for me to set it up | 08:49 |
rantom | Are new images coming today? | 08:51 |
rantom | I'm about to file a bug about that "Create new"-missing but I'll assume Wifi is fixed since there's already a "RELEASED" status for bug 203 | 08:51 |
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rantom | Hmm, nevermind. The blank SSID is for new networks | 08:53 |
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Sage_ | Stskeeps: umm... where can one download the pr 1.2 for n950? | 08:59 |
Stskeeps | Sage_: OCF or something | 09:00 |
rantom | Sage_: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/release/N950/firmware/ | 09:00 |
Sage_ | rantom: thx | 09:01 |
rantom | Sage_: No problem. I tried to install the ofono-1.8-15.1 but I got "conflicts with file from package ofono-0.52-1.12.armv7hl" | 09:02 |
Sage_ | rantom: rpm -Uvh ofono... | 09:03 |
rantom | ok | 09:03 |
rantom | *sigh* You can tell that I'm a bit rusty. "Failed dependencies" dbus-python and pygobject2" are needed for the -tests | 09:05 |
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rantom | --nodeps? | 09:06 |
Sage_ | rantom: zypper install dbus-python pygobject2 | 09:08 |
rantom | Yep, doing that now | 09:08 |
rantom | Thanks | 09:08 |
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Sage_ | rantom: you have pr 1.2 harmattan on your dev btw? | 09:09 |
rantom | Sage_: Yep | 09:09 |
Sage_ | ok, now I'm interested to hear what the result is | 09:09 |
rantom | :) | 09:09 |
Sage_ | pr1.0 works, pr1.1 doesn't (mine) and pr1.2 not tested yet :) | 09:09 |
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rantom | Ok, all files installed | 09:10 |
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rantom | How can I confirm that ofonod is running or not? | 09:11 |
rantom | top only comes to my mind | 09:11 |
Sage_ | ps aux | grep ofonod | 09:11 |
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rantom | Darn, so close | 09:13 |
Sage_ | ? :) | 09:13 |
rantom | Can't figure out how to type the pipe in N950 hw-kb | 09:13 |
rantom | :D | 09:13 |
Sage_ | well you can just type "systemctl restart ofono.service" to be sure | 09:13 |
Sage_ | doesn't matter if it is already running | 09:14 |
rantom | ok | 09:14 |
Sage_ | and then /usr/lib/ofono/test/list-modems | 09:14 |
rantom | But this does remind me that it probably was a feature in the virtual-bar that was shown in Harmattan, when using Terminal... | 09:14 |
rantom | ok | 09:14 |
rantom | restarted | 09:15 |
rantom | And done | 09:16 |
Sage_ | so does list-modems show somwthing? :) | 09:16 |
rantom | Yep | 09:16 |
rantom | Moment | 09:16 |
Sage_ | nice | 09:17 |
rantom | Sage_: http://pastebin.com/huSwEjWi expires in 1 hour | 09:18 |
Sage_ | yey | 09:18 |
Sage_ | ok, so now time to reflash my device and see if it comes alive | 09:18 |
rantom | And what I learned from this: set-up the damn SSH | 09:18 |
rantom | Had to type that output to gedit in my Ubuntu :D | 09:19 |
rantom | Luckily it wasn't a big output | 09:19 |
rantom | No worries, it's accurate to the output that I got on the device | 09:19 |
Sage_ | I'm not worried ;) | 09:20 |
rantom | :) | 09:20 |
rantom | But yeah, that's what I got with no SIM-card installed | 09:20 |
rantom | Next up would removing and later reinstalling modified moslo... | 09:21 |
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rantom | Sage_: FYI: you can type pipe in the virtual-keyboard in N950, when in Terminal. It's under numbers (?123), page 2 | 09:39 |
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Sage_ | # autopartition.sh check /dev/mmcblk0 | 10:19 |
Sage_ | /usr/bin/autopartition.sh: line 1: arithmetic syntax error | 10:19 |
the-boss | Sage_: Error: "autopartition.sh" is not a valid command. | 10:19 |
Sage_ | hmmp :D | 10:19 |
Sage_ | moslo gone bad ;) | 10:19 |
rantom | Heh | 10:21 |
rantom | I'm not a big fan of how it auto-starts the partitioning the device if you can't, for some reason, remove it | 10:21 |
Sage_ | marquiz_: did you have some guide how to recover the partitioning so that OCF can take over again? I think my partition table is gone ;) | 10:22 |
Sage_ | or if someone can boot n950 with modified moslo and usb connected and telnet in and show what "fdisk -l" shows | 10:23 |
marquiz_ | Sage_: in moslo console you can remove the partition | 10:23 |
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deztructor | Stskeeps: you asked about Lipstick :) I have nemo mobile installed on n950 | 10:24 |
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Stskeeps | deztructor: ok, moment, let me find the youtube video | 10:24 |
Stskeeps | you might know qml compositor for wayland.. but imagine that for x11 | 10:25 |
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marquiz_ | Sage_: telnet in | 10:25 |
Stskeeps | deztructor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuS00aA8QyM | 10:25 |
Stskeeps | deztructor: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/qml/ is all the qml needed for that | 10:25 |
marquiz_ | Sage_: then autopartition.sh delete /dev/mmcblk0 | 10:26 |
deztructor | Stskeeps: thx! checking | 10:27 |
deztructor | Stskeeps: it is compact :) good | 10:28 |
Sage_ | marquiz_: none of those worked, got that arithmetic syntax error | 10:28 |
Sage_ | went in and created 4 partitions with fdisk and now got one exported via usb | 10:29 |
Stskeeps | deztructor: lipstick is basically a homescreen framework, with ability to use composited windows as qml elements | 10:29 |
marquiz_ | Sage_: did you try the delete command? | 10:30 |
Sage_ | delete check create | 10:31 |
Sage_ | all failed to that | 10:31 |
deztructor | Stskeeps: and WindowPixmap is just a snapshot or live window composited? | 10:32 |
Sage_ | marquiz_: well, I did delete first and it succeeded (sort of at least) then removed moslo and tried to install pr1.2 which failed. | 10:32 |
Stskeeps | hmm, i need to ask w00t but i think it might actually be live | 10:32 |
Stskeeps | it's not as powerful as wayland compositor naturally | 10:32 |
alterego | If you like lipstick, eye liner is a new replacement for MeeGo Compositor, allowing you to make qml decorated compositors :) | 10:33 |
deztructor | Stskeeps: is this element going from Pyro? | 10:33 |
Stskeeps | deztructor: windowpixmap comes from lipstick itself, the framework, afaik | 10:33 |
Sage_ | marquiz_: http://pastie.org/4243021 then installed moslo back and tried to get something alive :) | 10:33 |
alterego | Sage_: you requested my presence? :p | 10:34 |
deztructor | Stskeeps: but in SwitcherItem qml there are only 2 imports: QtQuick and Pyro | 10:34 |
Sage_ | marquiz_: what I did was create 4 partitions 2G,2G,2G,rest and installed nemo to the last and now nemo boots. However I didn't get pr1.2 installed as I would have liked to | 10:35 |
Sage_ | alterego: yes, ofono is ready for you :) | 10:35 |
alterego | Cool | 10:35 |
marquiz_ | Sage_: install pr1.2 emmc data with --erase-mmc=quick | 10:35 |
Stskeeps | deztructor: hmm | 10:35 |
alterego | You mean ready for me, as in it works with N950 now? | 10:36 |
marquiz_ | Sage_: i have to take a look at moslo, i guess if it fails | 10:36 |
Sage_ | alterego: well if you have pr1.0 or pr1.2 on your n950 it should :) | 10:36 |
Stskeeps | deztructor: w00t's out buying his first house, i'll let him answer :) | 10:36 |
alterego | Sage_: no, got no Harmattan on my N950 | 10:36 |
deztructor | Stskeeps: :) | 10:36 |
Sage_ | alterego: well, it is not that, but mainly what firmware you had in it before as the modem firmware in pr1.1 seems to be buggy | 10:37 |
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alterego | Sage_: ah, that explains things. So if I flash the cmt firmware from >1.2 I should be fine? | 10:38 |
Sage_ | alterego: yes pr1.1 didn't work for me at all | 10:39 |
Sage_ | now after I got cmt from pr1.2 it works | 10:39 |
alterego | I might try the latest cmt I have, which should be >pr1.3 | 10:39 |
alterego | See if that works :) | 10:40 |
w00t | deztructor: it's live, more or less | 10:40 |
deztructor | w00t: can you just point me to the current Lipstick repo? | 10:41 |
alterego | w00t: have you heard about my eyeliner project :p | 10:41 |
w00t | deztructor: github.com/nemomobile is canonical.. I'm more leaning towards experimenting with qtwayland for future-based things, though, as there's a lot more freedom on that path | 10:42 |
w00t | alterego: no (t that I can remember) | 10:42 |
Sage_ | alterego: pr1.2 is the latest for n950 and it works fine | 10:42 |
alterego | qml version of meego compositor :) | 10:43 |
alterego | w00t: I thought the name suited it's combination with lipstick for qml ux development :p | 10:43 |
alterego | Sage_: I have later images | 10:44 |
deztructor | w00t: I have not found lipstick itself there :-o | 10:44 |
Sage_ | alterego: well probably fine then :) | 10:44 |
w00t | alterego: fun, i started experimenting with that back around the same time as lipstick, but decided it really wasn't worth the bother | 10:44 |
w00t | deztructor: https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick ? | 10:44 |
Stskeeps | w00t: think no mtf dep of compositor.. | 10:44 |
w00t | Stskeeps: yess, that part wasn't so hard, someone else hacked it out (leaving it C++) | 10:45 |
w00t | I don't remember who now though | 10:45 |
alterego | w00t: I've mostly finished it. Wasn't that much bother. the worst bit was working out what it did :) | 10:45 |
deztructor | w00t: oops, sorry I was in mer-cor :)) | 10:45 |
Stskeeps | w00t: yeah, but not for a modern | 10:45 |
Stskeeps | w00t: mcompositor | 10:45 |
w00t | alterego: yeah... having one massive "compositor manager" class certainly didn't help with understanding things, either | 10:46 |
Sage_ | rantom: could you check if you n950 finds the modem after you reboot :) | 10:46 |
alterego | w00t: but imagine being able to implement proper swipe ui in QML, and QML transitions for window events :D | 10:47 |
Sage_ | rantom: I got mine working but after I rebooted the modem is gone again :P | 10:47 |
alterego | It's coooool :) | 10:47 |
rantom | Sage_: Just in time, I was about to clean it | 10:47 |
faenil | guys, what's the current status of Nemo, taking into account the news about jolla? | 10:47 |
faenil | will you guys still support it? | 10:47 |
alterego | Yes | 10:48 |
alterego | Ne | 10:48 |
Stskeeps | faenil: jolla's involved with mer and nemo, i don't see what has changed | 10:48 |
alterego | Nemo isn't going anywhere | 10:48 |
Sage_ | faenil: nemo is still community project, why would it stop? :) | 10:48 |
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Stskeeps | but obviously jolla can't do images for n900/n950/n9 | 10:48 |
faenil | Stskeeps, the fact that jolla's OS is probably something different from nemo | 10:48 |
alterego | If anything it'll make things stronger. | 10:48 |
Stskeeps | as is clearly said on twitter | 10:48 |
faenil | so supporting nemo requires resources | 10:48 |
faenil | yes | 10:48 |
faenil | that's clear | 10:49 |
alterego | Well they can do images like we can, can't use it commercially though | 10:49 |
faenil | Sage_: my question wasn't clear, it's something more like "are you Sage_ Stskeeps going to spend time on nemo, now that you've got something more important to do?" | 10:49 |
faenil | probably better now :D | 10:49 |
Stskeeps | faenil: if it's okay, i don't want to comment that, just look at our actions instead | 10:50 |
Stskeeps | faenil: nemo is hardly dead | 10:50 |
alterego | I'd prefer it if Nemo stayed distinct as a vendor testing ground. | 10:50 |
Stskeeps | on how jolla does things, stay tuned | 10:50 |
faenil | ok :) | 10:50 |
alterego | faenil, like mer, any good progress we make in Nemo space Jolla can utize too, | 10:51 |
alterego | And they'll contribute upstream where they make improvements in FOSS projects | 10:51 |
faenil | I'm going to have some spare time in August, just wanted to know whether turning that shit of current image gallery I made into something usable was a clever activity or not :D | 10:52 |
faenil | oops, s**t :D | 10:52 |
faenil | alterego, right | 10:52 |
alterego | faenil: any improvements are welcome. Nemo is the only chance we have for N9/50/00 | 10:52 |
faenil | I'd love to make it usable, but keeping both uni and developing hobbies is a hard task, at least here | 10:53 |
faenil | I have never updated it yet xD feel sorry about that, and feel ashamed of the current status of the gallery, but yeah, better than nothing XD | 10:54 |
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rantom | Was there a bug about the assisting keyboard missing/asked as a feature in Nemo bugzilla, as of yet? | 10:54 |
alterego | You shouldn't feel ashamed :p any effort is very much appreciated. Don't feel ashamed :p | 10:55 |
rantom | The one with pipes and tabs and so forth | 10:55 |
alterego | In the terminal? | 10:55 |
rantom | Yes | 10:55 |
faenil | alterego, eheh | 10:56 |
rantom | I _think_ it was present in MeeGo CE | 10:56 |
faenil | gtg guys, bbl | 10:56 |
alterego | not sure, but I noticed that yesterday | 10:56 |
Sage_ | alterego: actually the ofono works only within the first startup of ofono 1.8 | 10:56 |
Sage_ | after that modem "disappears" | 10:56 |
alterego | toolbar changed, it's now a funky set of xml files to define toolbars :) | 10:56 |
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alterego | Sage_: scht :/ | 10:56 |
rantom | alterego: Alright. You can still type pipe with vkb. Noticed that after I had needed it | 10:57 |
rantom | If need for one | 10:57 |
alterego | Sage_: I'll let you know if it acts any different for newer cmt | 10:57 |
Sage_ | alterego: but well, phonesim works so you can use that for some basic UI tests :) | 10:57 |
alterego | Either way, this isn't great :/ | 10:58 |
Sage_ | true | 10:58 |
deztructor | w00t: how do you think, is it ok to add some qml types e.g. for operator, battery etc. into lipstick itself? or better to provide some additional library? | 10:59 |
w00t | deztructor: the idea - more or less - behind lipstick as-is was that it was just going to provide a basic building block.. anyone doing anything serious with it would take it and rip it to pieces, adding what they needed | 11:00 |
deztructor | w00t: I agree :) | 11:01 |
w00t | I never got around to splitting it into the parts that should be shared (window pixmaps etc) and everything else (qml theme, addons where you'd add in e.g. battery/operator stuff) | 11:01 |
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alterego | Is the cmt firmware for N9 compatible w/ N950? | 11:06 |
Stskeeps | doubt it | 11:06 |
alterego | w00t: I was planning on doing that sometime "soon" ;) | 11:06 |
Stskeeps | should flash whole images | 11:06 |
arcean | alterego: N950 uses the same cmt firmware as the N9 | 11:07 |
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alterego | Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. | 11:08 |
alterego | So maybe PR1.3 cmt firmware might help with this ofono issue. | 11:08 |
* alterego tests | 11:08 | |
w00t | alterego: yeeeah | 11:08 |
* w00t has a whole list of "RSN™" stuff :-/ | 11:08 | |
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alterego | So, who knows how important libresource is in nemo? | 11:16 |
alterego | I'm thinking of offing it from dialer. | 11:16 |
Stskeeps | very | 11:17 |
Stskeeps | it controls audio policy | 11:17 |
alterego | They don't use it in IVI | 11:17 |
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Stskeeps | use it, for sure | 11:17 |
Stskeeps | yes, because they aren't amobile phone | 11:17 |
alterego | Hmmm | 11:17 |
w00t | (could always make it optional) | 11:17 |
alterego | Well, libresource is seemingly what's causing the dialer break at the moment (other than ofono being broken now) | 11:18 |
Stskeeps | alterego: in which way? | 11:18 |
Stskeeps | and on what device | 11:18 |
alterego | N950 | 11:18 |
* rantom should headdesk | 11:18 | |
rantom | No wonder I couldn't remove modified moslo yesterday, I forgot the sudo | 11:19 |
rantom | *sigh* | 11:19 |
alterego | And in the way that it can't make outgoing calls, or handle incoming calls because it's "resource proxy" instance doesn't every call back saying it's aquired permission to control the call "resource". | 11:19 |
Stskeeps | hmm intersting | 11:19 |
Stskeeps | can you comapre n n900? | 11:19 |
Sage_ | I broke that most probably | 11:21 |
Sage_ | I updated libresource to latest git at some point which might have caused that | 11:21 |
Stskeeps | do we have a older version anywhere? | 11:21 |
Sage_ | no since we don't have static releases atm. | 11:22 |
Stskeeps | ok | 11:22 |
Stskeeps | can we make a older version? | 11:22 |
alterego | That would help a lot. | 11:22 |
Sage_ | It was this SR https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/4908 | 11:23 |
Sage_ | I can do repository that has those old versions of those three packages | 11:24 |
Stskeeps | would be good | 11:24 |
alterego | Sage_: do you know what the previous version of libresource was? | 11:26 |
Sage_ | same version different build | 11:29 |
Stskeeps | ok | 11:29 |
Sage_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3ACE%3AMW%3AShared | 11:29 |
Sage_ | building there the older one | 11:29 |
Sage_ | there is one older than that if even that doesn't work. | 11:29 |
alterego | Cool | 11:30 |
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alterego | Sage_: so any idea why libresource would break? | 11:33 |
Sage_ | No | 11:33 |
alterego | Well, I guess I've got something to look at then :/ | 11:34 |
Stskeeps | remember a reboot after installing new libresource | 11:34 |
Stskeeps | for good measure | 11:34 |
alterego | m'kay | 11:34 |
alterego | Sage_: do you know when you last updated resource-qt? | 11:37 |
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Sage_ | alterego: 6weeks ago and the previous was 8 months ago :) | 11:47 |
alterego | Hrm, the problem may be resource-qt or libresource it seems. I'll be looking in to this when I add support for libresource in my new dialer code. | 11:48 |
alterego | Which is now pretty high on the to-do list :) | 11:49 |
alterego | Anyone got any opinions on different UML designing apps? I used to use dia but is umbrello any good? | 11:51 |
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rantom | Since Nemo Mobile can be single-installed to the N950 (AFAIK) can one disable the warranty void warning when in that mode? | 12:04 |
rantom | Or is it limited to one time shown only? | 12:04 |
rantom | Where as when dual-booting it is shown twice when booting Harmattan and once for Nemo | 12:04 |
Sage_ | rantom: I don't think that can be removed :/ | 12:05 |
rantom | Yeah, thought so too. For stock Harmattan, without modified moslo, it can be removed, but not after that | 12:06 |
rantom | e.g. when modified moslo is in the field | 12:06 |
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rantom | Well I've been trying to get that warning out now for two days, I think. On the plus side though I have the freshest OS's that I can flash on my N950 so :) | 12:12 |
rantom | Might go and remove Harmattan alltogether since I don't really need it, I think.. | 12:13 |
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w00t | Stskeeps: do we have an integrated qtquick2 version of components? | 20:21 |
Stskeeps | not yet | 20:21 |
* w00t searches for a bug for that.. | 20:22 | |
w00t | none found, I'll open one | 20:23 |
w00t | that's bug #210 | 20:31 |
w00t | #211: pinch to zoom in helium.. | 20:34 |
the-boss | w00t: Error: "211:" is not a valid command. | 20:34 |
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* w00t files bugs for faenil :-) | 20:36 | |
faenil | w00t, I have never updated it, I'm sorry about that | 20:37 |
faenil | I don't even know if it's worth filing bugs about it, given its current state :) | 20:37 |
faenil | but anyway, thanks :) | 20:38 |
w00t | faenil: it's usable, and a start | 20:38 |
w00t | that's fine | 20:38 |
faenil | I will have some time in August | 20:38 |
w00t | I may find some time to help you, we'll see | 20:38 |
faenil | unfortunately I can't find time for it while studying... | 20:38 |
faenil | I'm currently thinking about sending the CV to jolla though ^^ | 20:38 |
faenil | w00t, anyway, the app wasn't ready for landscape iirc :D | 20:40 |
faenil | but keep filing please, so that I won't forget to fix those things at least ;) | 20:40 |
faenil | thanks ^^ | 20:40 |
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w00t | that's the principle | 20:41 |
w00t | it doesn't mean you did something wrong | 20:41 |
w00t | it just means it needs addressing sometime | 20:41 |
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faenil | :) | 20:42 |
faenil | is there any nemomobile version with Qt5? | 20:52 |
faenil | pinch to zoom of the image gallery depends on that... | 20:52 |
w00t | "depends" isn't strictly right, it already works, after all | 20:55 |
w00t | it's just a little jagged, and yes, it's ok that that isn't your fault | 20:55 |
w00t | anyway, qt5 is there, qml components for qt5 aren't yet | 20:55 |
w00t | real soon now™ probably as i'll want them there very quickly | 20:55 |
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faenil | w00t, sorry didn't notice your answer :) ok ;) | 21:18 |
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