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| Sazpaimon | can someone help me? I'm trying to get nemo to boot off of a chroot/pivot_root | 01:49 |
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| m4g0g | hi | 06:19 |
| m4g0g | did somebody try to install Nemo using this instraction: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=73146 | 06:23 |
| Stskeeps | only use what we have on the nemo pages | 06:28 |
| m4g0g | I try your instractions but it doesn't work :-( | 06:30 |
| m4g0g | If I havn't card reader - can I write nemo to sdcard from n900? | 06:32 |
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| niqt | has anyone replaced with maemo nemo? I use flasher, is that correct? | 06:55 |
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| m4g0g | When I try to start boot from mmc I got "Can't get kernel image" | 07:05 |
| m4g0g | do you have any ideas? | 07:07 |
| ssirkia | m4g0g: You are trying to "run mmcboot" in U-boot? I don't think that works. Just let it time out and it tries to boot from SD. | 07:11 |
| m4g0g | нуы | 07:11 |
| m4g0g | yes | 07:11 |
| m4g0g | I run mmcboot | 07:12 |
| m4g0g | and got error | 07:12 |
| m4g0g | I should only wait? | 07:12 |
| ssirkia | m4g0g: yes, just wait and let it time out :-) | 07:13 |
| ssirkia | Did you get a card reader? some sd cards come with a small 'converter' to USB. they generally work well. | 07:14 |
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| m4g0g | does slider should be open or not? | 07:18 |
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| Stskeeps | dont use mmcboot, just let it wait, remember to put back cover on | 07:20 |
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| m4g0g | fucking shit! | 07:20 |
| m4g0g | it booted | 07:20 |
| m4g0g | YEP | 07:20 |
| m4g0g | but how to go back from any application:-( | 07:24 |
| Stskeeps | make a line up gesture from the bottom | 07:25 |
| m4g0g | wow | 07:26 |
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| dcthang | Stskeeps: are you here? | 07:37 |
| dcthang | It looks like it has a problem with audio on N9 | 07:39 |
| m4g0g | hard ckeyboard doesn't work properly | 07:40 |
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| m4g0g | but nemo looks like very good os | 07:41 |
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| m4g0g | so. If I want to help I can open bugtracker and do what I can or there is any way? | 07:50 |
| Stskeeps | bugs.nemomobile.org :) | 07:51 |
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| dcthang | Sage: do you have any idea about audio/sound with Nemo on N9? | 07:55 |
| dcthang | it works with the old version. but with the newest it doesn't | 07:56 |
| m4g0g | why do you need Nemo on N9? | 07:56 |
| Sage | dcthang: it should work, there haven't been changed in that are so it should still work | 07:56 |
| Sage | m4g0g: because we can? ;) | 07:56 |
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| m4g0g | Sage: but N9 has the nemo parent =) | 07:57 |
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| dcthang | Sage: ook did reflash but wifi looks doesn't work | 08:26 |
| dcthang | we can't enable wifi for it from Settings. | 08:27 |
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| marquiz | jukkaeklund: good day | 09:57 |
| marquiz | jukkaeklund: i edited the n950/n9 a bit few days back | 09:57 |
| marquiz | jukkaeklund: added initial instructions for removing the alternative os partition | 09:57 |
| marquiz | i mean i edited the n950/n9 WIKI | 09:58 |
| dcthang | marquiz: do you have any problem with wifi on N9? | 09:58 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: what version? | 09:59 |
| dcthang | wait a sec | 09:59 |
| dcthang | this one : nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950-0.20120209.1.NEMO.2012-03-01.2 | 09:59 |
| dcthang | and I followed the guide from WIKI | 09:59 |
| dcthang | the problem is: I can't enable wifi from Settings | 10:00 |
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| marquiz | dcthang: to be honest, i haven't tried that | 10:04 |
| marquiz | dcthang: obviously, you do :( | 10:04 |
| marquiz | (have problems, that is) | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: is connman up? (ps aux) | 10:04 |
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| dcthang | Stskeeps: it has | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | get .xsession-errors and file a bug | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | after trying to enable it in control panekll | 10:15 |
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| dcthang | ok, filed it already | 11:01 |
| dcthang | one more info is that: it doesnot have connman process at all (if I run it, it will crash (segmentfault)) | 11:01 |
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| faenil | didn't know veskuh wasn't working in Nokia anymore :( | 12:02 |
| m4g0g | sad but true | 12:09 |
| faenil | :( | 12:09 |
| faenil | and didn't know Nokia was so important for Nemo... | 12:09 |
| faenil | there's been almost no activity here in the last month | 12:09 |
| m4g0g | we should try to do this ourself | 12:13 |
| faenil | doesn't seem to be working :( | 12:16 |
| faenil | also w00t said he is busy | 12:16 |
| w00t | that doesn't stop other people from pitching in | 12:19 |
| w00t | quite the opposite | 12:19 |
| faenil | w00t, that's right, but you know, people don't just poop in if there's no "guide" | 12:20 |
| w00t | i'd hope they wouldn't poop anyway, tbh ;) | 12:20 |
| faenil | XD | 12:20 |
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| m4g0g | I want to help but doesn't know how. I should understand principles of work of nemo for this | 12:21 |
| faenil | at least I'm not encouraged to work on it if I see so low activity, I don't want to waste that little spare time I have into something that will probably disappear | 12:21 |
| w00t | m4g0g: the principle is: find something you want to make, or fix, and go for it, and ask for help if you need it | 12:21 |
| faenil | m4g0g, yeah | 12:21 |
| Sazpaimon | can someone help me? I'm trying to get nemo to boot off of a chroot/pivot_root | 12:28 |
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| Sage | Yeah, the thing is that most of the people that worked on UX level are more or less inactive. The Core is still going forward quite nicely in Mer, but UX is stuck atm. :( | 12:54 |
| Sazpaimon | w00t, any way you can help me with that? | 12:54 |
| w00t | Sazpaimon: no idea | 12:55 |
| Sazpaimon | blah | 12:55 |
| Sage | Sazpaimon: So what have you done so far and on what device? | 12:55 |
| Sazpaimon | Sage, N9, I applied the nemo patches to the harmattan kernel, and extracted nemo to a directory on my /home partition | 12:55 |
| Sazpaimon | I modified preinit to accept a volup button to chroot into the nemo directory and execute /sbin/init | 12:56 |
| Sazpaimon | for debugging, I added a telnet daemon to preinit to see what happens if i do it manually | 12:56 |
| Sazpaimon | basically, doing chroot /mnt/nemo /sbin/init gives me "Failed to open private bus connection: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory" and a problem about $DISPLAY not being set | 12:57 |
| Sazpaimon | the cgroup mounts seem to be getting set fine, as well as /dev and friends | 12:59 |
| Sage | Sazpaimon: nemo patches for harmattan kernel? Which one? Also did you enable the config changes that are needed for harmattan kernel? | 12:59 |
| Sazpaimon | anyway, after those errors, systemd kind of just sits there and does nothing | 12:59 |
| Sazpaimon | I did, yes | 12:59 |
| Sazpaimon | i applied all the patches on the CE repository | 12:59 |
| Sazpaimon | some of them were already applied it seems | 13:00 |
| Sazpaimon | i'm using the nitdroid PR1.2 kernel as a base kernel | 13:00 |
| Sazpaimon | basically trying to get a triple boot set up with a single kernel | 13:00 |
| Sazpaimon | android and harmattan boot from the same kernel just fine right now | 13:01 |
| Sage | Sazpaimon: http://pastie.org/3691594 <- options needed | 13:01 |
| Sazpaimon | Sage, yep, I applied all those i believe | 13:02 |
| Sazpaimon | i just took the config file in the /boot directory of my nemo folder and merged that with the config I had | 13:02 |
| Sage | http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/mer-kernel-checks.git;a=tree <- tool to check the config quite easily | 13:04 |
| Sazpaimon | only difference is that the android options are on | 13:04 |
| Sazpaimon | would that really be a huge issue? | 13:04 |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/3691610 | 13:04 |
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| Sage | well we haven't verified those so it might be that as well, can't be sure as it has not been really tested as said in the config check tool | 13:05 |
| Sage | I recommend checking with the tool your current kernel at least what it says | 13:06 |
| Sage | er... config | 13:06 |
| Sage | also you might need to mount some things before doing the chroot inside the chroot | 13:06 |
| Sazpaimon | doesnt systemd handle all that? | 13:07 |
| Sazpaimon | http://pastebin.com/Tmje2PHQ here's my output | 13:08 |
| Sazpaimon | strange that some of these reccomended options are disabled in the nemo kernel config I have | 13:08 |
| Sazpaimon | I was looking at config-2.6.32.20112201-12.5.Nemo.Adaptation.N950.N9-adaptation-n950 as a base | 13:08 |
| Sage | hmmp... on nemo those all should be set properly | 13:09 |
| * Sage checks his n950 | 13:09 | |
| Sazpaimon | grep CONFIG_TMPFS_POSIX_ACL /home/nemo/boot/config-2.6.32.20112201-12.5.Nemo.Adaptation.N950.N9-adaptation-n950 | 13:09 |
| Sazpaimon | # CONFIG_TMPFS_POSIX_ACL is not set | 13:09 |
| the-boss | Sazpaimon: Error: "CONFIG_TMPFS_POSIX_ACL" is not a valid command. | 13:09 |
| Sage | that is needed | 13:10 |
| Sage | as well as CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT | 13:10 |
| Sazpaimon | well why isn't it set in the config? | 13:10 |
| Sage | wait a sec | 13:10 |
| Sazpaimon | same with CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT | 13:11 |
| Sazpaimon | unless the config file that they put in /boot doesnt match the real kernel config | 13:11 |
| Sage | it should match | 13:12 |
| Sazpaimon | and if I mount /dev manually before chroot, CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT really doesnt matter | 13:12 |
| Sage | hmmp... you are right. | 13:13 |
| Sage | n950 doesn't have all the options | 13:13 |
| Sazpaimon | also, does nemo need the /lib/modules directory to have the organized kernel layout? | 13:14 |
| Sazpaimon | because i just copied over harmattan's /lib/modules directory, which has all the .ko files in one folder, and ran depmod | 13:15 |
| Sage | not sure about that but it shouldn't affect the boot at that level at least | 13:16 |
| Sazpaimon | and when I run init, no modules seem to get loaded anyway | 13:16 |
| Sazpaimon | I don't know systemd too well, so i don't know where all that happens | 13:17 |
| Sazpaimon | i assume all the modprobing happens from some rc scripts (or whatever the equivalent is here) | 13:17 |
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| * Sage ponders what does the /run -> /var/run mount on boot | 13:20 | |
| Sazpaimon | yeah that kinda has me stumpped too | 13:21 |
| Sage | Sazpaimon: try to so symbolic link from /var/run to /run | 13:22 |
| Sazpaimon | Sage, make /run the link to /var/run or the other way around? | 13:23 |
| Sazpaimon | because /var/run has stuff in it | 13:23 |
| Sage | err... systemd should do that automatically | 13:24 |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/3691708 | 13:25 |
| Sazpaimon | yeah I have that too | 13:25 |
| Sage | you could try without the android options if that would help. But atm. I don't have any other ideas | 13:26 |
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| Sazpaimon | Stskeeps, maybe you could help me with this, if you're around? | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | mm? | 14:49 |
| Sazpaimon | whats the process for booting nemo from a chroot or pivot_root environment | 14:49 |
| Sazpaimon | preferably from harmattan's preinit script | 14:49 |
| Stskeeps | you have to exec and get actual init process with PID 1 going | 14:50 |
| Sazpaimon | i set up a telnetd daemon on preinit to manually try and mount and chroot an extracted nemo rootfs and run /sbin/init, but it isn't working | 14:50 |
| Sazpaimon | Stskeeps, shouldnt that all be handled from chroot /mnt/nemo /sbin/init | 14:51 |
| Stskeeps | not really, read up on fork/exec | 14:52 |
| Sazpaimon | so something like: exec chroot /mnt/nemo sh -c "exec /sbin/init" | 14:53 |
| Sazpaimon | no wait, that wont give me PID 1 | 14:54 |
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| Sazpaimon | Stskeeps, well, actually, if I run that from preinit, which has a PID of 1, wont init then have a PID of 1? | 14:56 |
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| Sazpaimon | so I guess the issue is that Im running it from a telnetd just to get output | 14:56 |
| Sazpaimon | the problem is if I do it from preinit I get no real output to go with, and the phone just shuts down | 15:00 |
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| Stskeeps | silly question, can you kexec that early? | 15:07 |
| Sazpaimon | i probably can, but I wanted to avoid using kexec if possible | 15:08 |
| Sazpaimon | since the kernel I built should, if im correct, work on both nemo and harmattan | 15:09 |
| Sazpaimon | also trying exec telnetd -l/bin/sh from causes a kernel panic, kinda expected that | 15:10 |
| jukkaeklund | marquiz, thanks for the wiki updates | 15:11 |
| marquiz | np | 15:11 |
| marquiz | i started implementing a menu to moslo, to be able to choose even "remove altos partition" | 15:11 |
| Sazpaimon | so, when I do exec chroot /mnt/nemo /sbin/init </dev/console >/dev/console 2>&1 from preinit, nothing shows up on the framebuffer console, yet the device reboots spontaneously | 15:23 |
| Stskeeps | Sazpaimon: trick, > /some.log | 15:23 |
| Sazpaimon | so exec chroot /mnt/nemo /sbin/init </dev/console > /out.log 2>&1 | 15:24 |
| Sazpaimon | ? | 15:24 |
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| Sazpaimon | because i think i tried something like that before, and got a 0 byte log file | 15:25 |
| Sazpaimon | i even tried /usr/bin/strace -o /init.strace.log -f -s 128 /usr/sbin/chroot /mnt/nemo /sbin/init > /out.log 2>&1 just for kicks and got a 0 byte out.log and init.strae.log | 15:25 |
| Sazpaimon | which is odd because doing the same thing on an android chroot works fine | 15:26 |
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| Sazpaimon | Stskeeps, can netcosnole be made to work with g_ether? | 16:22 |
| Sazpaimon | or vice versa | 16:22 |
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| marquiz_ | Stskeeps: would you be willing to take the moslo stuff (for n950) from my home project to some more "official" area? | 17:30 |
| Stskeeps | sure, should we just dump it into the n950-n9 adaptation? | 17:31 |
| marquiz_ | yeah, but there's some additional stuff to moslo | 17:32 |
| marquiz_ | that is, busybox, kexec-tools, parted2, at least | 17:33 |
| Stskeeps | should be fine | 17:33 |
| marquiz_ | and fb_text2screen | 17:33 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: any objections to moving those in there? | 17:33 |
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| Sazpaimon | ugh | 17:45 |
| Sazpaimon | i cant get g_serial to build | 17:45 |
| Sazpaimon | drivers/usb/gadget/f_acm.c:326: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type | 17:45 |
| Sazpaimon | Stskeeps, you ever run into this? | 17:46 |
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| marquiz_ | Sazpaimon: yeah, seems it doesn't compile | 18:29 |
| Sazpaimon | i ended up commenting out the code that uses that tty variable | 18:30 |
| Sazpaimon | it isnt in mainline anyway | 18:30 |
| marquiz_ | Sazpaimon: ok, does it work? | 18:32 |
| Sazpaimon | maybe not, my kernel isnt working anymore | 18:33 |
| marquiz_ | ah :( | 18:34 |
| Sazpaimon | even though im not sure how changing a couple lines of code would break it | 18:34 |
| Sazpaimon | like, none of the modules are loading anymore, it seems | 18:34 |
| Sazpaimon | because i have a script in preinit that detects volup and voldown and does an action, and that isn't responding to my buttonpresses | 18:35 |
| marquiz_ | hmm, stupid question: do you have the correct modules directory? | 18:37 |
| marquiz_ | i mean one that is named after your kernel | 18:38 |
| Sazpaimon | yeah I do | 18:40 |
| marquiz_ | and you don't get any modules loaded?? | 18:40 |
| marquiz_ | what if you try to load one manually with insmod or modprobe? | 18:41 |
| Sazpaimon | well I cant actually do that because i cant get to my device | 18:41 |
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| marquiz_ | ah, argh | 18:43 |
| Sazpaimon | weird, not even my backup kernel (with a different version number and seperate modules directory) isnt loading | 18:47 |
| marquiz_ | hmm, sounds really strange | 18:47 |
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| marquiz_ | compile the g_ether or g_nokia gadget into the kernel (not module) so that you can ssh in see what's happening | 18:48 |
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| Sazpaimon | marquiz, that would still need to ifconfig up the usb0 device | 18:49 |
| marquiz_ | Sazpaimon: you're running nemo, right? | 18:50 |
| Sazpaimon | no, harmattan | 18:50 |
| Sazpaimon | at the moment | 18:50 |
| marquiz_ | argh, ok it doesn't work, then | 18:50 |
| Sazpaimon | hm, strangely, when i load the rescue initrd and kernel, i get a bad usb device | 18:50 |
| Sazpaimon | shouldnt it export a mass storage device? | 18:51 |
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| Sazpaimon | it just gives me a device that windows reports as "malfunctioned" | 18:53 |
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| Sazpaimon | marquiz_, any idea why that may be? | 18:54 |
| marquiz_ | really strange, which hw? | 18:59 |
| Sazpaimon | N9 | 18:59 |
| Sazpaimon | im just going to reflash the rootfs | 19:00 |
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| marquiz_ | Sazpaimon: sounds like a good idea :/ | 19:01 |
| Sazpaimon | but as long as you know the rescue initrd doesnt seem to work on an N9 | 19:02 |
| Sazpaimon | in case nobody ever tried it before | 19:02 |
| marquiz_ | where did you take that? | 19:03 |
| marquiz_ | from? | 19:03 |
| Sazpaimon | http://stskeeps.subnetmask.net/n950liberator/ | 19:03 |
| Sazpaimon | specifically http://stskeeps.subnetmask.net/n950liberator/vmlinuz-2.6.32.20112201-11.2-adaptation-n950-bootloader and http://stskeeps.subnetmask.net/n950liberator/initrd.img-rescue-2.6.32.20112201-11.2-n950 | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | Sazpaimon: it doesn't in some cases, are you on PR1.2 yet? | 19:04 |
| Sazpaimon | yeah | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 19:04 |
| Sazpaimon | if you can fix it up, i'd be happy to test and avoid a potential reflash | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | shoudld work | 19:05 |
| Sazpaimon | i mean, it starts up, but it exports a malfunctioning USB device | 19:05 |
| Sazpaimon | it should me a mass storage device, right? | 19:05 |
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| marquiz_ | Sazpaimon: yeah | 19:07 |
| Sazpaimon | werid that it doesnt properly enumerate, then | 19:07 |
| marquiz_ | yes | 19:09 |
| Sazpaimon | maybe i can try moslo, doesnt that at least set up a telnet daemon | 19:10 |
| Sazpaimon | or does that automatically repartition my emmc without being able to stop it | 19:10 |
| marquiz_ | well, currently it automatically repartitions the device :( | 19:11 |
| marquiz_ | i'm under the work of fixing/improving that, but not there yet :( | 19:12 |
| Sazpaimon | :( | 19:12 |
| Sazpaimon | ill just remove the autopartition.sh file | 19:12 |
| Sazpaimon | that should at least make the process fail and dump to telnet | 19:13 |
| marquiz_ | Sazpaimon: yeah, if you build the moslo yourself | 19:13 |
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| marquiz_ | gotta get to bed | 19:21 |
| marquiz_ | c ya guys | 19:21 |
| marquiz_ | Sazpaimon: i hope you get your device up and running | 19:21 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps, marquiz: I think that is ok to move those to the n950-n9 project. Need to check packaging but sure | 19:29 |
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| Sazpaimon | alright im in | 19:47 |
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| Sazpaimon | great, managed to restore my old modules and kernel and everything | 19:55 |
| Sazpaimon | looks like its booting up fine again | 19:55 |
| Sazpaimon | dodged a bullet there | 19:55 |
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| Sazpaimon | alright, got it all up and running again, and g_serial seems to work, it enumerates a device | 21:22 |
| Sazpaimon | but i cant actually get any messages from it | 21:22 |
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| Sazpaimon | how do I specify a kernel command like that *wont* cause my device to shut down immediately? | 22:45 |
| Sazpaimon | ive tried copying /proc/cmdline from a working device verbatim, and it still dies on me | 22:45 |
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