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Aard | how can you leave the settings application? :) | 07:08 |
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Stskeeps | make a sliding gesture at the bottom or the side, causes task switcher to come up | 07:08 |
Stskeeps | we've had this feature for ages, it's surprising people first see it now :) | 07:08 |
Stskeeps | gesture up, that is | 07:09 |
Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eak4T649uDg | 07:09 |
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Aard | you're not using the accounts framework at all on nemo currently? | 07:13 |
Stskeeps | correct | 07:14 |
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Aard | any reason for that? | 07:15 |
Stskeeps | for starters, the ui for accounts wasn't OSS as far as i recall and that we didn't have terribly much use for it at that point | 07:16 |
Stskeeps | the api's probably fine, we just haven't integrated it | 07:17 |
Stskeeps | as there was much more glaring problems at the time and low amount of ui engineers :) | 07:17 |
Aard | yes, ui is not open source, though is a terrible meegotouch mess, so not a big loss. I quite like the accounts concept, though, that's why I'm asking | 07:18 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 07:18 |
Stskeeps | the question is also how the situation looks like as we move to qml and qt5 | 07:18 |
Aard | the accountsframework is ui-agnostic, the ui is closed source -> doing it from scratch with qml is the only sane approach anyway | 07:19 |
Stskeeps | yea | 07:19 |
Stskeeps | either way: no architectual reason why we can't have it and it is certainly much saner than gnome keyring ;) | 07:19 |
Aard | I've been thinking last week about stuff I like on the n9 better than on all other phones I played with, and that's one of the bits | 07:20 |
Aard | part of that is 'everything in the same contacts/dialer application', which I'd like to see as well, but doing that requires either using accounts, or reinventing it | 07:21 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 07:22 |
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* dm8tbr is in favor of that concept too | 07:36 | |
* dm8tbr especially loves the dialler where you can choose the methods etc | 07:36 | |
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Aard | Stskeeps: where would the non-ui accounts stuff live? I guess it can be interesting for other uis too, so that only the qml-ui should end up in nemo, the rest should be somewhere shared | 08:18 |
Stskeeps | probably middleware in CE:MW: | 08:18 |
Aard | iirc that was even some of the stuff I packaged | 08:19 |
Sage_ | Aard: what do you need exactly? | 08:47 |
Aard | Sage_: just thinking about getting at least the accounts middleware in usable shape (shouldn't be too much work) | 08:48 |
Sage_ | I don't think we have any of the accounts stuff in nemo atm. | 08:49 |
Aard | yes. read the backlog :) | 08:49 |
Sage_ | ah, so you are looking for the git tree? :) | 08:49 |
Aard | no | 08:49 |
* Sage_ reads | 08:50 | |
Aard | I was checking if there was some generic concern about not having it in, and since that not's the case thinking about what to do | 08:50 |
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Sage_ | Aard: if you show me the sources (git tree) for that I can package it sure the backend that is | 09:11 |
Stskeeps | well, or reuse the packaging Aard did? | 09:11 |
Stskeeps | :P | 09:11 |
Aard | Sage_: I've packaged it for meego back then | 09:11 |
Aard | it's just about updating it, which I can do easily next week | 09:12 |
Sage_ | oh, ok well if there is packaging that is quite simple | 09:12 |
Sage_ | where is that packaging build.meego.com? | 09:13 |
Aard | http://build.meego.com/project/packages?project=devel%3AAccountsSSO | 09:13 |
Sage_ | just want to see the build deps of that | 09:13 |
Aard | does not have many deps. iirc cryptsetup-luks was the main problem bac kthen | 09:13 |
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Sage_ | well it seems quite usable from deps pov | 09:18 |
Aard | we did some cryptsetup-patching back then, I need to check about the state of that, but apart from that just updating and copying it over should be ok | 09:19 |
Sage_ | there is some deps that needs removing before it compiles against Mer/Nemo but those are documetation related | 09:19 |
Aard | how is documentation generation handled in mer? | 09:20 |
Stskeeps | we typically don't include xmlto and gtk-doc | 09:21 |
Sage_ | libsignon is the main concern with licreds2 and cyrus-sasl deps | 09:21 |
Stskeeps | because it just puts 70+ packages alone used for documentation into the core | 09:21 |
Stskeeps | and most of gnome stack :) | 09:21 |
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Sage_ | Aard: but currently the accounts stuff would go to Project:MTF:UX and from there to CE:UX:MTF. Not to MW if no MTF based application depends on them. I know that this is somewhat screwed setup, but I would like to keep the CE:MW:MTF as minimal as possible if nothing else than UX depends on certain packages. | 09:24 |
Sage_ | This is mainly as I'm not entirely sure what would use the accounts atm. | 09:24 |
Aard | Sage_: I'd like to have it outside of ux stuff, since other ux could find it useful, too (the plan back then was that other distributions will pick up the accounts framework, too, and start using it for other stuff. iirc at least suse had packages for it) | 09:26 |
Aard | to make it useful for nemo we'd have to put new ui-packages on top of what is in that repository | 09:26 |
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Sage_ | well if other UX's would use it I'm happy to push it to CE:MW:Shared that is used for example the plasmaactive people atm. | 09:28 |
Aard | what I'm saying is that other ux _could_ use it, but without beeing accessible to them that won't happen | 09:29 |
Aard | back when meego was alive the plan was to have it used by everyone | 09:29 |
Sage_ | yes, I can undestand that. | 09:30 |
Stskeeps | heh | 09:35 |
Stskeeps | surprise of the day: heliumreborn does SVG | 09:35 |
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niqt | morn | 10:05 |
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Stskeeps | anything to sync on nemo besides the Mer prerelease that came out yesterday? | 11:10 |
niqt | Stskeeps when will in mer/nemo the sage libdeclarative-organizer? | 11:21 |
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Stskeeps | niqt: not this release, possibly the next | 11:22 |
niqt | ok | 11:22 |
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Stskeeps | out of curiousity: how many here would be interested in helping to run test cases on Nemo/Mer? | 11:26 |
KaIRC | manually or automatically? | 11:28 |
Stskeeps | a bit of both | 11:28 |
Stskeeps | we have manual, semiautomatic, automatic | 11:28 |
Stskeeps | http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/hostbased.png is automatic, http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/testtrunner-manual.png is manual | 11:30 |
KaIRC | well, if all stuff that's needed is in the image, I *may* be able to run something every now and then, but probably not regularly due to time constraints (too many projects to care about) | 11:31 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 11:31 |
Stskeeps | the manual testcase in this particular case should really be semiautomatic.. | 11:31 |
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Sage_ | Stskeeps: the next release is around 29th of March? (cc: niqt) | 11:36 |
* Stskeeps calculates | 11:37 | |
Stskeeps | yeah | 11:37 |
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