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| Sage_ | morning | 06:09 |
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| Stskeeps | morn Sage_ | 06:10 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: only thing i wondered about with prerelease was touch sensitivity, but that may be because i'm used to n950/n9 screen by now | 06:14 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: you mean on N900 ? | 06:17 |
| Sage_ | N900 is a bit bad and I think ExoPC isn't that great either. | 06:17 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, on both | 06:17 |
| Stskeeps | but not sure if it existed before that | 06:17 |
| Sage_ | N900 has existed before, ExoPC not so sure. | 06:18 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: could you remove the gestures plugin and retry if you notice change? | 06:18 |
| Sage_ | I have bad feeling that gestures are grabbing some of the touch things | 06:18 |
| Stskeeps | i'll try that later today | 06:19 |
| Sage_ | k thx | 06:19 |
| Sage_ | we would need some kind of tool to test the sensitity better | 06:26 |
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| dcthang | who knows which package for vkb on Nemo? | 06:35 |
| Stskeeps | it's maliit | 06:36 |
| dcthang | Is it contained in release package? Checked there but not found | 06:36 |
| Sage_ | iekku: ping, when you have time would be nice if we could improve the bugzilla a bit. | 06:42 |
| dcthang | ok, found it's here http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Status | 06:44 |
| * Sage_ is writing a guide how to report bugs http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/ReportingBugs | 06:54 | |
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| Sage_ | iekku: first we should probably hide advanced fields by default. | 06:58 |
| Sage_ | iekku: also N900 HA should have Hardware N900 set by default if that is possible, and same goes to Pandaboard and x86 | 07:00 |
| Sage_ | and Other. | 07:00 |
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| Sage_ | iekku: the products should contains more information something like http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/ReportingBugs#Bugzilla_Products | 07:16 |
| Sage_ | iekku: just first draft but something like that | 07:17 |
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| iekku | Sage_, i take a look, but can't promise anything in next week. after that i have more time | 07:23 |
| iekku | Sage_, are you talking about nemo, mer or both? | 07:24 |
| Sage_ | iekku: sure, no problem. I would file it as a bug to remind you but we don't have buzilla product in Nemo and don't want to start flooding Mer bz with Nemo stuff. | 07:25 |
| Sage_ | just Nemo atm. | 07:25 |
| iekku | should we have a component for bz and wiki? | 07:27 |
| iekku | Sage_, what are the fields to hide? i do it now | 07:28 |
| Sage_ | bz yes, but wiki is mer wiki so I don't see point in that. But I think Other category wouldn't hurt. | 07:28 |
| w00t | i note we're lacking a component for browser in Application too, btw | 07:29 |
| iekku | w00t, i need name, description, cc's | 07:29 |
| Sage_ | iekku: mainly was wondering when new user is created does the new user have advanced fields enabled or disabled by default https://bugs.nemomobile.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Applications see "Show Advanced Fields" | 07:29 |
| * Sage_ needs to go now for a moment. | 07:30 | |
| iekku | i really don't know | 07:30 |
| iekku | and this is something i need to ask from my future workmates :P also the hiding part | 07:31 |
| * Stskeeps yawns | 07:32 | |
| Stskeeps | friday morning isn't a good time to have to answer advanced e-mails on | 07:32 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, or do anything else than drink coffee and try to wake up | 07:42 |
| * iekku is having her last vacation day in ixonos | 07:42 | |
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| Sage_ | iekku: well something we need to think about. We need to make the bugreporting easily and well documented. | 08:48 |
| Sage_ | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/ReportingBugs <- Improvements welcome | 08:49 |
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| phaeron | Sage_: about that spectacle issue, can you fix spectacle ? :) | 08:50 |
| Sage_ | phaeron: Yes I can, but not sure what would be the best solution for it. | 08:51 |
| Sage_ | new cmdline option --no-version-check ? | 08:51 |
| Sage_ | Changing the default answer isn't good as the error might be valid in some cases. | 08:52 |
| phaeron | Sage_: hmm | 08:54 |
| phaeron | first there should be a non-interactive mode | 08:54 |
| phaeron | no answers are expected in that mode | 08:55 |
| phaeron | second the right way is maybe to mark stuff that is not backward compatible with the minimum version number required | 08:56 |
| phaeron | and abort if the current mic sees content marked with version higher than its own | 08:57 |
| phaeron | could be complicated though | 08:57 |
| Sage_ | that sounds good | 08:59 |
| * Sage_ stares at spectacle code | 09:19 | |
| Sage_ | spectacle is able to retriev git tags from git instead of using tarballs | 09:19 |
| * Sage_ didn't know about this feature | 09:19 | |
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| lbt | Sage_: yeah - it's kinda neat and kinda broken | 09:44 |
| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=osc.spec&package=osc&project=Mer%3ATools%3ATesting&rev=4b23f4f20b0130c912ef5ab554a9c5d2 | 09:45 |
| lbt | line 37 | 09:46 |
| Sage_ | lbt: where did you get that? :) | 09:46 |
| lbt | it named the tarball with the ^{} thing at the end - I had to manually rename it and disable the SCM: field to prevent it | 09:47 |
| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=osc.yaml&package=osc&project=Mer%3ATools%3ATesting&rev=4b23f4f20b0130c912ef5ab554a9c5d2 | 09:47 |
| lbt | the yaml file | 09:47 |
| Sage_ | ah, ok. Well I'll check that thing and also document it a bit :) | 09:47 |
| Sage_ | it wasn't in README.md at all so I never knew that there was such a feature :) | 09:47 |
| Sage_ | lbt: thx for the test .yaml | 09:49 |
| Sage_ | %setup -q -n %{name}-%{version} | 09:50 |
| Sage_ | err... nm | 09:50 |
| Sage_ | lbt: that is upstream problem, their tags contain that ^{} http://pastie.org/3443983 | 09:59 |
| lbt | Sage_: eww.... and spectace sorts it higher of course | 10:00 |
| Sage_ | of course | 10:00 |
| Sage_ | who's idea was it to put ^{} to tagname :D | 10:00 |
| * Sage_ ponders who names these things: http://pastie.org/3444022 | 10:06 | |
| Sage_ | SupportOtherDistros == AddBuildRoot | 10:06 |
| Sage_ | * SupportOtherDistros: **boolean**, whether need to check for other distros (besides MeeGo) | 10:07 |
| Sage_ | there are other things as well but really these names are not so good or the documentation :/ | 10:08 |
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| lbt | Sage_: no, it's definitely lacking in that area | 10:23 |
| lbt | I guess the osc ^{} tags are from doing pre-releases? | 10:24 |
| lbt | mmm they don't appear to be in the github repo | 10:25 |
| lbt | the suse github I mean | 10:26 |
| lbt | Sage_: how did you get that pastie? | 10:29 |
| lbt | I did a git clone of osc and those tags aren't there | 10:29 |
| lbt | (I thought I may have messed them up so was just making sure it wasn't me :) ) | 10:29 |
| Sage_ | lbt: just run the cmd on top :) | 10:31 |
| lbt | d'oh | 10:31 |
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| lbt | Sage_: OK ^{} is a peeled tag | 11:03 |
| lbt | ! | 11:03 |
| lbt | 'new' tags are annotated and have a sha1 of their own - old tags are simple pointers to a sha1 | 11:04 |
| lbt | the peeled/de-referenced tag (eg 0.133^{}) is a pointer to the sha1 of the commit, not the tag | 11:04 |
| lbt | it's a bug in spectacle | 11:04 |
| lbt | it should skip tags ending ^{} | 11:05 |
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| Sage_ | lbt: can you paste link to some documentation about that | 11:16 |
| lbt | ok | 11:16 |
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| lbt | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5346060/git-tag-why-this-duplicate-tag-in-remotes | 11:17 |
| lbt | heh -- I actually asked in #git - but knowing the answer lets you do better google searches :) | 11:17 |
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| Sage_ | # Your branch is ahead of 'origin/master' by 32 commits. | 12:00 |
| the-boss | Sage_: Error: "Your" is not a valid command. | 12:00 |
| Sage_ | :P | 12:00 |
| Sage_ | my space fix broke tests so had to fix those :P | 12:00 |
| Sage_ | lbt: thx. will check that | 12:00 |
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| * jukkaeklund_ can see 312 score in html5test so qtwebkit update was successful :) | 12:31 | |
| Stskeeps | \o/ | 12:31 |
| Paimen | just out from wild has anyone tried mer + nemo on acer iconia a500 | 12:37 |
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| Stskeeps | that's a tegra2? | 12:40 |
| Paimen | yup | 12:40 |
| Stskeeps | i think mer has been on the iconia, nemo itself, not sure | 12:40 |
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| mikhas | vgrade played with Tegra2's, no? | 12:44 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | i don't see any reason why it wouldn't work on tegra2, it's x11 and it's gles | 12:47 |
| Paimen | need to dig into this I think | 12:47 |
| Sage_ | lbt: https://meego.gitorious.org/~sage/meego-developer-tools/sages-spectacle/commit/ffdd5c7f88eba0d82725efcee01632977cc44908 | 12:55 |
| lbt | Sage_: that'll do nicely sir | 12:57 |
| * Sage_ needs to do some tests for macros for spectacle | 12:59 | |
| vgrade | Paimen, a500 looks a possible Mer target like most Tegra 2 tabs with open bootloaders. http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1158260.html | 12:59 |
| lbt | Sage_: my kernel spec should be a good test | 13:01 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: you had some experience with https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 ? | 13:06 |
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| Stskeeps | well, i wouldn't say experience | 13:09 |
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| lbt | reminds me... I can't seem to read my SMSes on Nemo | 13:18 |
| lbt | when I click on them it lets me write a new one but not read old ones | 13:19 |
| * Sage_ ponders about one broken spectacle test about qmake builder | 13:33 | |
| Sage_ | anyone know how %qmake macro works? :) | 13:33 |
| w00t | will you glare at me if I say "fabo probably does"? | 13:34 |
| Sage_ | err... %cmake | 13:34 |
| w00t | :-P | 13:34 |
| w00t | ah, %cmake, no clue | 13:34 |
| Sage_ | http://pastie.org/3445603 | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: /etc/rpm/qt.macros or something lik that.. | 13:34 |
| Sage_ | I have no idea if that is valid before or after :) | 13:34 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: sry, mixed qmake and cmake :P | 13:35 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 13:35 |
| Sage_ | Currently spectacle returns the latter one but not sure if that is working as nobody has fixed the testcase for it. | 13:35 |
| lbt | w00t: you any ideas about my SMS issue? | 13:48 |
| w00t | lbt: not really, apart from SMS being a mess :-/ | 13:49 |
| lbt | should I be able to read them? Or is that still a bug? | 13:49 |
| w00t | well, not being able to read SMS you've recieved under nemo would indeed strike me as being a bug | 13:53 |
| * lbt thought so - and was a bit surprised | 13:53 | |
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| lbt | hence the "am I being an idiot" questions | 13:54 |
| w00t | nah, it's good to throw ideas around | 13:54 |
| rantom | Did someone else have problems getting the newest Nemo to the N950 | 14:10 |
| rantom | ? | 14:10 |
| rantom | I got it to boot the "Nemo"-screen but after that nothing else than a bunch of pixel blur | 14:10 |
| rantom | Nevermind, got it to work when I re-installed it | 14:15 |
| * Sage_ is able to receive sms on n900 nemo | 14:16 | |
| Sage_ | is there still something that I haven't documented to wiki that I'm responsible of doing for Nemo? | 14:19 |
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| Sage_ | have a nice weekend everyone. | 16:07 |
| jukkaeklund | what, already?! :) | 16:08 |
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| * jukkaeklund is tempted | 16:09 | |
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| w00t | TGIF | 16:24 |
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| * damnshock prefers scotch | 16:33 | |
| * iekku is watching wife playing skyrim | 16:34 | |
| damnshock | wow, that game looks good | 16:37 |
| damnshock | I guess my Intel HD2000 won't be able to handle it | 16:38 |
| iekku | xbox version of it | 16:38 |
| damnshock | and your wife plays it? | 16:38 |
| damnshock | lucky man! | 16:38 |
| iekku | yes, he is lucky man... | 16:39 |
| damnshock | I just need a woman that likes sports, better if it's rock climbing :D | 16:39 |
| iekku | xmas present from me was 14 months live and call of duty 3 | 16:39 |
| iekku | and i promissed not to nag about playing | 16:40 |
| iekku | damnshock, btw, my "wife" is male, i just call him as a wife since he cooks and forces me to go shopping with him etc | 16:41 |
| damnshock | oh, I see | 16:41 |
| iekku | i don't play with xbox, but i like to watch | 16:41 |
| damnshock | I also cook for my girl friends, does that make me a "wife" too? :P | 16:41 |
| iekku | maybe? or potential wife :P | 16:42 |
| damnshock | let's leave it at "potential" couse I first have to find a couple ;) | 16:44 |
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| * jukkaeklund got stuck running phonegap in nemo.. | 17:45 | |
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| faenil | Just got the degreeeeee in CS! :D | 17:51 |
| jukkaeklund | congrats! | 17:51 |
| jukkaeklund | CS as in computer science? | 17:51 |
| faenil | yep! :D | 17:55 |
| faenil | I'm just back home, after a looong day! :) and this evening pizza with friends! :D | 17:55 |
| * jukkaeklund has M.Sc in software engineering | 17:56 | |
| Paimen | grats faenil | 17:56 |
| faenil | thanks :) | 17:56 |
| faenil | M.Sc? | 17:56 |
| faenil | jukkaeklund: M.Sc as in? | 17:57 |
| jukkaeklund | master of science | 17:57 |
| faenil | Oh ok :) the 5 years one | 18:00 |
| jukkaeklund | took me 15 years ;) | 18:00 |
| damnshock | congrats | 18:00 |
| faenil | eh :D | 18:00 |
| jukkaeklund | but yeah, 5-6 years typically | 18:00 |
| faenil | thanks damnshock :) | 18:00 |
| damnshock | you deserve them :D | 18:00 |
| faenil | jukkaeklund: I'm attending master lessons | 18:01 |
| faenil | damnshock: :D | 18:01 |
| jukkaeklund | w00t, so those qt mobility stuff like feedback, messaging are now part of Qt main? | 18:01 |
| jukkaeklund | qt 4.8 that is | 18:02 |
| jukkaeklund | faenil, good for you! | 18:02 |
| * timoph has only BSc in software engineering | 18:06 | |
| timoph | so jukkaeklund should be one hacking :) | 18:06 |
| jukkaeklund | no, BSc is for those who actually do stuff, MSc is for those just talk about it :) | 18:08 |
| timoph | :) | 18:08 |
| jukkaeklund | that said, I am trying to get phonegap running on nemo.. | 18:08 |
| timoph | any luck yet? | 18:08 |
| jukkaeklund | I know what is the problem.. | 18:09 |
| timoph | something missing? | 18:09 |
| jukkaeklund | commenting out stuff.. | 18:09 |
| jukkaeklund | not sure if something missing from nemo or just qt 4.8 | 18:10 |
| jukkaeklund | as phonegap is for harmattan | 18:10 |
| timoph | ah | 18:10 |
| jukkaeklund | I had nice experiences already though getting qt creator to work like I wanted | 18:10 |
| jukkaeklund | which surprised me greatly | 18:11 |
| timoph | it writes code for you as you tell it what kind of application you want? | 18:11 |
| Paimen | well I'm just BEng but seems to do more of the of the talking that hacking | 18:11 |
| timoph | :p | 18:11 |
| jukkaeklund | eg can "run" and app runs in nemo | 18:11 |
| timoph | cool | 18:12 |
| timoph | I haven't actuallu tried using Qt creator for nemo stuff | 18:12 |
| jukkaeklund | it works | 18:12 |
| jukkaeklund | but harmattan is wrong target of course | 18:12 |
| timoph | yeah | 18:13 |
| faenil | once again, guys please FILE BUGS AGAINST QMLGALLERY (bugs/feature requests) | 18:15 |
| * timoph needs to try it first | 18:21 | |
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| jukkaeklund | has phonegap runnning in nemo | 18:34 |
| Stskeeps | oh? | 18:35 |
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| jukkaeklund | yea | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | how difficult? | 18:48 |
| jukkaeklund | not, but for me something.. | 18:48 |
| jukkaeklund | camera was harmattan-specific | 18:48 |
| jukkaeklund | QtM feedback, messaging and feedback I commented out | 18:48 |
| jukkaeklund | don't know if they are missing or due to Qt 4.8 different | 18:49 |
| Stskeeps | feedback not surprised | 18:49 |
| Stskeeps | messaging..hmm | 18:50 |
| jukkaeklund | can see accelerometer data, compass is 0, location sg faults | 18:51 |
| jukkaeklund | *seg | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | so pretty good for first run | 18:52 |
| jukkaeklund | contacts work, local storage works | 18:52 |
| jukkaeklund | pretty good :) | 18:52 |
| jukkaeklund | I guess should put up a project in COBS | 18:54 |
| jukkaeklund | could be included in Nemo image since is a nice test app to poke stuff | 18:55 |
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| Stskeeps | jukkaeklund: yeah, makes sense | 19:15 |
| Stskeeps | jukkaeklund: ideally we'd get it to a point where phonegap is a runtime available within mer, so apps don't have to bundle | 19:16 |
| Stskeeps | but not sure if there's additional challenges to that | 19:16 |
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| Free-MG | no phone calls possible, is this normal on the N9 with nemomobile? | 19:23 |
| Stskeeps | Free-MG: do you have a SIM PIN and did you get a pin query on bootuP? | 19:23 |
| Free-MG | without SIM PIN | 19:24 |
| Stskeeps | should be possible then.. are sms'es possible? | 19:24 |
| Free-MG | no | 19:24 |
| Free-MG | no provider | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | interesting | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | 'dmesg' output and file a bug please | 19:25 |
| Free-MG | ok | 19:28 |
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| jukkaeklund | stskeeps, I guess so that apps just need to include phonegap.js and it works | 19:54 |
| Stskeeps | well, that and the c++ runtime | 19:55 |
| Stskeeps | and that is the one i wanted to share | 19:55 |
| jukkaeklund | ok | 19:55 |
| timoph | it uses Qt mobility? | 19:57 |
| timoph | http://wiki.qt-project.org/PhoneGap_for_Qt_5 | 20:02 |
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| timoph | jukkaeklund: what sources you're using? this -> https://github.com/cordova/cordova-qt | 20:06 |
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| matrixx | jukkaeklund: \o/ | 20:14 |
| matrixx | Free-MG: for me the modem won't boot up when turning the device on | 20:15 |
| matrixx | Free-MG: you might have the same problem | 20:15 |
| matrixx | cell mo that is | 20:15 |
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| Free-MG | matrixx: unable to open device /dev/cmt_speech ('No such device'). | 20:17 |
| matrixx | sounds like same :) | 20:20 |
| matrixx | well, :( | 20:20 |
| Free-MG | i have sometimes a strange noise on speakers | 20:22 |
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| matrixx | didn't find bug # yet for the cellmo doesn't boot up yet, but it would be probably same cause with https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5 , according to veskuh | 20:25 |
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| w00t | jukkaeklund: yes - in qt 4, they're seperated into qt mobility | 20:29 |
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| jukkaeklund | timoph, this one: https://github.com/bundyo/phonegap | 21:57 |
| jukkaeklund | since it has harmattan | 21:57 |
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| Venemo_N950 | hi :) | 22:27 |
| jukkaeklund | hi | 22:34 |
| jukkaeklund | timoph, ok that cordovaqt was more sensible works almost out of the box | 22:35 |
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| jukkaeklund | stskeeps, only missing libQtFeedback.. | 22:51 |
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| Venemo_N950 | since IRC Chatter is already part of Nemo, can I ask you guys to also add it to the Nemo bugzilla? It does not yet have bugtracker. | 23:25 |
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