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| Sage | morning | 05:13 |
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| Stskeeps | morn | 05:16 |
| Sage | "Sleeping is overrated" (tm) | 05:22 |
| * Stskeeps needs coffee | 05:22 | |
| Sage | http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php | 05:24 |
| Sage | Can we somehow provide a rpm for that? | 05:25 |
| Sage | related to https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91 | 05:25 |
| Sage | Some distros provide a package for that but not sure how they handle the license | 05:28 |
| Sage | I don't recall reading any license when installing same package on my other netbook that isrunning fedora | 05:29 |
| timoph | maybe it's the "put it in contrib or something and don't speak about it" -way | 05:29 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: i've seen it work without that rpm in modern linux kernels | 05:30 |
| Stskeeps | the ideapad specifically | 05:30 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: you have? | 05:33 |
| Sage | well, my netbook that comes with 3.1.x kernel couldn't handle that broadcom chip without that driver so how modern kernel are you talking about? :D | 05:34 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: well, there was -something- about it working.. | 05:35 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 05:35 |
| Sage | :) | 05:35 |
| Sage | I don't have that chip myself in my lenovo so can't really test, but it would be nice if someone coudl test if that works | 05:35 |
| timoph | I have it but I'm not at home now | 05:36 |
| timoph | to me it seems that the lisence allows redistribution without modifications | 05:36 |
| Sage | zypper install kernel-adaptation-pc-devel gcc and then try to compile | 05:36 |
| Sage | timoph: yes, it seems so. | 05:37 |
| timoph | although that much legalize makes my head hurt | 05:37 |
| timoph | 2.1 imo makes that pretty clear | 05:38 |
| Sage | umm... does ideapad with bcm chip has also rj45 behind that? :) | 05:41 |
| timoph | hmmh. not sure | 05:44 |
| Stskeeps | people use modems? :o | 05:45 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: need more coffee? | 05:48 |
| timoph | :D | 05:48 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: at least I would recommend some. HINT: rj11 vs rj45. | 05:48 |
| Stskeeps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registered_jack#RJ45 | 05:49 |
| Stskeeps | P | 05:49 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 05:49 |
| Sage | timoph: you don't have account in our bz apparently was about to cc you in one bug about that networking :) | 05:49 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: trying to reason the lack of coffee? :P | 05:51 |
| * Sage needs some caffeine as well | 05:51 | |
| teve_ | .,m.,m | 05:53 |
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| timoph | hmmh. I should have | 05:56 |
| timoph | what's the bug number? | 05:56 |
| timoph | Sage: ^ | 05:57 |
| Sage | timoph: 91 | 05:57 |
| timoph | is nemo using a different bz than mer? | 05:58 |
| Sage | timoph: yes bugs.nemomobile.org | 05:58 |
| Sage | same login though | 05:58 |
| timoph | evidently it is | 05:58 |
| * timoph added myself | 05:59 | |
| Sage | 2 | 06:02 |
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| dcthang | why wifi'sapplet doesn't have virtual keyboard? So user cannot type passphrase for it | 06:10 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: usually works for me | 06:10 |
| dcthang | ok, wondering why it's so. | 06:21 |
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| Stskeeps | keyboard out, maybe? | 06:21 |
| dcthang | yep, might be. Which package for that do u know? | 06:23 |
| Stskeeps | not sure | 06:23 |
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| Stskeeps | morn veskuh_n9_ | 07:23 |
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| veskuh_n9_ | morn | 07:25 |
| veskuh_n9_ | attending html5 course today | 07:26 |
| veskuh_n9_ | argh one of the targets is winphone with phonegap | 07:26 |
| timoph | have fun | 07:27 |
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| * timoph is doing QA today (yet again) | 07:27 | |
| Stskeeps | veskuh_n9_: cheat and put it on top of phonegap on mer ;p | 07:28 |
| veskuh_n9_ | stskeeps that would be way more fun. | 07:29 |
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| fosstux | Hi! Is it possible to install Mer & Nemo on the internal memory of the N900? | 08:11 |
| veskuh_n9_ | I think the old meego instructiins for it still works. | 08:15 |
| veskuh_n9_ | Not recommended way. | 08:15 |
| fosstux | why not? | 08:16 |
| veskuh_n9_ | devs. install to mem card so that is the only tested way | 08:16 |
| fosstux | but why??? | 08:17 |
| fosstux | Or is it possible to replace maemo with mer? | 08:17 |
| timoph | the emmc installation is destructive | 08:17 |
| fosstux | hm | 08:18 |
| timoph | iirc there was some issues with having swap on the emmc | 08:18 |
| Stskeeps | fosstux: buy a microsd card, that's best way | 08:18 |
| Sage | timoph: our swap is on emmc atm :) | 08:19 |
| timoph | dunno if anyone is maintaining the emmc installer. at least I haven't touched it in months | 08:19 |
| timoph | Sage: ah. | 08:19 |
| timoph | :) | 08:19 |
| timoph | or was that related to that when you have your rootfs there as well | 08:19 |
| * timoph can't remember | 08:20 | |
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| timoph | but anyway there wasn't any significant preformance gain running it from emmc | 08:21 |
| Sage | timoph: well it was mainly about not destroying the maemo installation | 08:21 |
| Sage | timoph: and the fact that meego was too big to fit in nand in the end | 08:21 |
| Sage | however I think it would fit in nand already now, but haven't treid that | 08:21 |
| timoph | I can try it if needed | 08:22 |
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| Sage | With Mer we got the base image so much smaller that it should fit in already | 08:22 |
| Sage | and there is stil much room for improvement | 08:22 |
| timoph | would be interesting to see if the thing still works. imo it should | 08:22 |
| Sage | yes, and it probably would improve perf as well | 08:23 |
| Sage | image in nand that is | 08:23 |
| Sage | emmc doesn't improve pref much (if any) and thus we have not been thinking about that | 08:24 |
| timoph | yep | 08:24 |
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| Stskeeps | it was mostly useful for testing, i guess | 08:25 |
| timoph | yep. especially with automation | 08:25 |
| timoph | that actually the reason why we implemented it | 08:26 |
| Sage | did nand image creation requires some proprietary tools? | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: not really, ubifs | 08:26 |
| timoph | iirc yes | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 08:26 |
| timoph | oh. | 08:26 |
| * timoph is about to learn something new | 08:26 | |
| Stskeeps | http://mer-project.blogspot.com/2010/01/making-flashable-rootfss-for-n900.html | 08:27 |
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| timoph | I need to try that | 08:28 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: ah, now I recall | 08:28 |
| Sage | ok, that should be relatively easy to test | 08:29 |
| timoph | n900 nand was 256M, right? | 08:32 |
| Stskeeps | right | 08:32 |
| Stskeeps | the chinese STB people have like 105mb flash devices | 08:32 |
| Stskeeps | that was a bit tougher to fit in that anticipated | 08:32 |
| rantom | How much was the N950 nand? | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | 256ish, the emmc is what hosts rootfs | 08:33 |
| timoph | I'm thinking of stripping a nemo image a bit and putting it to the nand.. | 08:34 |
| Stskeeps | think that's what sage was pondering about | 08:34 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:34 |
| timoph | :) | 08:34 |
| rantom | I can try to flash the N900 and/or N950 with Nemo, if needed, though I'd need instructions to do it since I've only done it so far successfully to the MMC | 08:35 |
| timoph | dunno if n950 flashing with custom images is possible atm | 08:35 |
| Stskeeps | n950 i wouldn't recommend | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | i know how to do it but it requires internal tools | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | use the initrd | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:36 |
| rantom | Blame aegis? | 08:36 |
| timoph | I would :) | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | no, just unreleased internal tools a | 08:36 |
| rantom | :) | 08:37 |
| Sage | yes, n950 is a bit hard as it requires internal tools | 08:43 |
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| Sage | hmmp... both of my N900 and N950 devices can't get wifi at finland atm. | 09:02 |
| Sage | last time I connected those to wlan was at fosdem and wonderign why I can't get the wlan up anymore | 09:03 |
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| * Sage reflashed n900 with the known workin software and wifi is still not there | 09:48 | |
| * Sage has bad feeling about this | 09:48 | |
| Stskeeps | x-rays in airport? regulatory issues? | 09:49 |
| Sage | I'm betting the first. :/ | 09:49 |
| Sage | both n900 and n950 wifi's silent :/ | 09:49 |
| Sage | carried those on same bad next to each other without power through security check | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | take out battery and let it stay for a little while? | 09:50 |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/3333265 | 09:51 |
| Sage | Battery was out for more than 1 day | 09:51 |
| Sage | never seen that wpa_supplicant crash | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | looks like an asserition failure | 09:52 |
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| Sage | ok, wifi network is just nuts apparently | 09:58 |
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| fosstux | IWhat is the recommended way to install the hildon appliction manager on my N900? | 10:29 |
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| niqt | off-topic http://lwn.net/Articles/479710/rss other distribution for qt/kde developer? what you think opensuse? i shown that for Raspberry Base Layer is on fedora | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | raspberry qtonpi moving to opensuse | 10:34 |
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| niqt | thanks | 10:38 |
| dcthang | any hints to install packages easilier meanwhile "zypper se" doesnot work atm? | 10:38 |
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| fosstux | Is it okay to run the dd command when the microsd card is in the n900? | 11:04 |
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| Sage | dcthang: it is bug in mer core. :/ | 11:17 |
| Sage | fosstux: what do you mean? | 11:17 |
| dcthang | oh | 11:17 |
| Sage | dcthang: know issue that is | 11:17 |
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| dcthang | There is a bug with meego-handset-camera in recording mode | 11:26 |
| dcthang | http://pastebin.com/cvA7M25a | 11:26 |
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| Stskeeps | which part? | 11:27 |
| dcthang | it shows "CameraBin error: "Internal data flow error." " | 11:28 |
| dcthang | when you press "Rec" | 11:29 |
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| dcthang | maybe lacking plugins, where can I get gst-plugins-bad package? | 11:36 |
| dcthang | there are a lot of repo for that. dunno what is the correct one | 11:36 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: it needs DSP working and gst-dsp for recording | 11:36 |
| dcthang | dsp-test shows it working | 11:38 |
| Stskeeps | does command line gst-launch too? | 11:38 |
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| dcthang | yes | 11:39 |
| dcthang | but where I can get gst-dsp package? | 11:40 |
| dcthang | is this correct one? http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.2.0.90/1.2.0.90.3.20110607.2/repos/oss/armv7hl/packages/armv7hl/gst-dsp-0.8.0-1.7.armv7hl.rpm | 11:40 |
| lbt | w00t_AMS: ping when you have a few minutes | 11:47 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: i'd recompile it if i were you | 11:47 |
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| fosstux | So - I've now got nemo on the sd card - it looks awesome... | 11:48 |
| fosstux | But I'm having one problem: Wenn changing the time, the Done Button is dimmed. | 11:49 |
| dcthang | Stskeeps: okay | 11:49 |
| fosstux | is there a package available to sync the clock with a ntp server? | 11:54 |
| Stskeeps | it does that when you connect to a wifi | 11:55 |
| fosstux | thanks - that worked automatically... | 11:58 |
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| w00t_AMS | lbt: consider this a few minutes :) | 12:14 |
| lbt | I'd like a pointer to the package which needs patching to fix the gesture problem | 12:16 |
| lbt | ie minimises too easily | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | meegotouch-compositor-gestures | 12:16 |
| w00t_AMS | yeah, that.. source at https://github.com/nemomobile/mcompositor-gestures | 12:17 |
| w00t_AMS | I haven't had time to get to it | 12:17 |
| lbt | I'd like to have a go :) | 12:17 |
| lbt | annoys the crap out of me | 12:17 |
| w00t_AMS | would be nice if you could, i'm sure it's just something stupid :P | 12:17 |
| fosstux | When I want to start Maemo again, do I have to remove the sd card? | 12:40 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 12:42 |
| fosstux | okay. | 12:43 |
| fosstux | Is it possible to import my contacts, IM Accounts, etc. from Maemo? | 12:44 |
| Stskeeps | contacts maybe, IM doubtful | 12:44 |
| fosstux | thanks | 12:44 |
| chouchoune | Stskeeps: you HAVE to remove the SD card ? I tought it's possible to boot on maemo with the sdcard inside (by typing run noloboot ?) | 12:58 |
| Stskeeps | you can to | 13:04 |
| fosstux | How far is the german language translated? Can I help? | 13:06 |
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| init3 | hello | 23:13 |
| init3 | will my maemo apps work on Nemo mobile? | 23:13 |
| beford | hildon? | 23:13 |
| init3 | beford: oh right that's gtk | 23:13 |
| init3 | but yes | 23:13 |
| init3 | what sort of apps does it use? | 23:14 |
| beford | I think nemo mobile focuses on QML/qt currently | 23:14 |
| init3 | I mean, is it based on apps from maemo? | 23:14 |
| beford | hildon apps should run on top of mer/cordia | 23:14 |
| init3 | sounds good | 23:14 |
| init3 | basically Bless N900 is something I'd love to continue running if I switch | 23:15 |
| init3 | I don't think that's gtk | 23:15 |
| beford | I think the UI its built with it so it will have to be rebuilt but I suppose the background stuff should work | 23:16 |
| init3 | maybe I'll contact them to see if they will be releasing a version that works with qt | 23:20 |
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